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Thank you for the update, Defcon.  =)

So the coins were in hot storage because 3 days later some of them would be used for AF? why have them sit in hot storage for 3 days?

Not being sarcastic or provocative or w.e, I just really don't get it.

so we should stop being human
fall into line
forget about your incompetence....

now asking questions
being critical is negative

we should all smile
cos we're getting fucked by defcon...

you are a fucking curse
an incompetent shit

your mother was obviously on that toilet seat for 9 months!

pay back what you owe....

So the coins were in hot storage because 3 days later some of them would be used for AF? why have them sit in hot storage for 3 days?

Not being sarcastic or provocative or w.e, I just really don't get it.

+1

Biogenetics trusts you mate

whatever i lost,im cool with it,take your time but make this place the kingdom it once was.

repay the most needed.im here to stay

bg

So the coins were in hot storage because 3 days later some of them would be used for AF? why have them sit in hot storage for 3 days?

Not being sarcastic or provocative or w.e, I just really don't get it.

We thought we would be ready to launch during the weekend, and were delayed. I should have withdrawn hot storage immediately, this is completely my fault. Projecting release dates when collaborating with developers anonymously is very difficult. For those three days, I honestly believed we were within 6 hours of the code being ready to launch at any moment. Again, completely my fault for not withdrawing hot storage immediately after we missed the weekend launch window. (reference last week's "Weekend Update" thread)

Quote from: Lief on February 15, 2014, 11:19:24 pm

One question Defcon. You say your personal funds have gone. Which is presumably why you're not offering to help repay the community with both your own profits and future SR profits.....But... Why would you keep your personal funds in the marketplace and not in a wallet off-site. What if SR had been seized by the feds?

The majority of my commission fees were also sitting in our infrastructure, I had not withdrawn them to my personal cold storage. When we almost lost cold storage in December I decided to work for six months for free, and publicly announced this. When cold storage was returned, my mindset was already fine with not getting paid.

I decided the best use of money for the community would be for the marketplace itself to build up enough funds to offer BTC hedging services again, like SR1.

This decision, combined with high stress levels, resulted in an unwise amount of commission bitcoins being in our infrastructure.

Yikes. Well, best of luck moving forward. Stress is a bitch to deal/cope with.

Quote from: Lief on February 15, 2014, 11:19:24 pm

One question Defcon. You say your personal funds have gone. Which is presumably why you're not offering to help repay the community with both your own profits and future SR profits.....But... Why would you keep your personal funds in the marketplace and not in a wallet off-site. What if SR had been seized by the feds?

The majority of my commission fees were also sitting in our infrastructure, I had not withdrawn them to my personal cold storage. When we almost lost cold storage in December I decided to work for six months for free, and publicly announced this. When cold storage was returned, my mindset was already fine with not getting paid.

I decided the best use of money for the community would be for the marketplace itself to build up enough funds to offer BTC hedging services again, like SR1.

This decision, combined with high stress levels, resulted in an unwise amount of commission bitcoins being in our infrastructure.

And what will happen with the vendor bond?

I still have faith in this community, but damn man you always boasted about SR being " like a nuclear bunker for security " and some random hacker can so easily steal every penny??

To be honest, Silk road has been running like absolute shit since the beginning of sr2. Wheres the customer service at? Come on dude, treat your customers better. Stop allowing the scamming vendors. You need to have a full team dedicated to solving customer support issues and banning scamming Vendors. You know who that hacker was??? it was probably a FURIOUS customer that got scammed and vowed to fuck you over. That is a FAILURE on your part.

Quote from: parisproject on February 15, 2014, 11:28:55 pm

only FE market with current feedback system= scammer s heaven

We are open to suggestions. "Current feedback system" - what quick improvements would you make to enable FE-only to operate safer?

2 things get rid of existing and actively punish scammers.
and no new vendor registration until you have this shit fixed...also how right is  Hiniguel?

As I lift a Beezy in the air in support for the freedom fighters

Sometimes wars cost a lot of treasure.

: ( :

Quote from: dimon114 on February 15, 2014, 11:18:32 pm

So the coins were in hot storage because 3 days later some of them would be used for AF? why have them sit in hot storage for 3 days?

Not being sarcastic or provocative or w.e, I just really don't get it.

We thought we would be ready to launch during the weekend, and were delayed. I should have withdrawn hot storage immediately, this is completely my fault. Projecting release dates when collaborating with developers anonymously is very difficult. For those three days, I honestly believed we were within 6 hours of the code being ready to launch at any moment. Again, completely my fault for not withdrawing hot storage immediately after we missed the weekend launch window. (reference last week's "Weekend Update" thread)

Well that sure is honest lol, didn't expect that. Hard to imagine Defcon making a similar misteak after having to take all that blame, and I can't really ask for much more then that...

Anyway, I say all the people trolling after they were told they would be compensated should get their coin LAST :d
...Since you are all so sure you've been robbed by the staff and all

How about we leave this place and go to themarketplace.i2p that already has multisig?

You've stayed off the internet for weeks? For opsec? Give me a fucking break. If that's the case you have no damn business running this site at all.

Frankly at best you're incompetent and at worst you've ripped us all off.

Supposedly you've spent this long working hard on security and making this site impenetrable, but decided to leave the internet for a week?

Even if you're telling the truth, there's no way anyone with their head screwed straight will use this site again. Sorry.

With FE too? Everyone will get ripped off, you will make (undeserved) commision, and then you'll retire with even more funds.

I can't believe that you think you can pull this shit again. Hopefully people will open their eyes and move to a real multisig market that already exists, run by someone who isn't an incompetent demogogue bozo.

Quote from: parisproject on February 15, 2014, 11:28:55 pm

only FE market with current feedback system= scammer s heaven

We are open to suggestions. "Current feedback system" - what quick improvements would you make to enable FE-only to operate safer?

buyer stats/buyer profil /vendor can leave feedback to customer
username attached to every feedback so people can check legitimacy of the user who left feedback,
show on feedback exact cost of product at the time of purchase
link feedbacks to a discussion thread within the market.
feedback rating could be more specific than just 5/5 ,
ability to edit feedback

Ok, spammed my way up just to say while I am a little pissed you guarenteed our coins would never be lost again after the fall of SR1 and then you lost them, I respect that you intend to reimburst the community.

There definitely needs to be more of a distance between users and the SR team. We are here to conduct business not to make friends. The SR teams needs to focus more on SR and less on the screaching bitches on this forum. If you keep apologising and keep trying to appease these asshole trolls they will drag you down.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the trolls on here were actually LE trying to demoralize the SR team. If they are, it certainly seems to have worked.

In any case, I applaud you for admitting your shortcomings and your perserverence in these tough times.

Peace and fucking,

Like you needed all of your bitcoins in "hot storage" to pay off the autofinalize balance- you only needed a small bit.

Why would we use this site? Because it has a green camel? Because it has a bunch of bullshit political "we are most wanted" "we aren't doing this for the money" bullshit behind it?

It's time to move on, people. Don't fall for this again. Don't make us all sad. This site has been running extremely shittily from the start. Basic updates don't happen. Constant bugs keep occuring.

Move onto themarketplace.i2p with actual multisig. Loki was right, and you all got dicked up the ass.

Perhaps using the forums to verify new vendors before granting them venodr status?
Best of luck

How about we leave this place and go to themarketplace.i2p that already has multisig?

themarketplace encourages users to download a custom bitcoin client. This is a terrible security practice, and largely why we want to improve existing bitcoin clients through official channels rather than providing our own bitcoin client with potential malware.

Never download a binary from the darknet and execute it on your computer.

Like you needed all of your bitcoins in "hot storage" to pay off the autofinalize balance- you only needed a small bit.

Why would we use this site? Because it has a green camel? Because it has a bunch of bullshit political "we are most wanted" "we aren't doing this for the money" bullshit behind it?

It's time to move on, people. Don't fall for this again. Don't make us all sad. This site has been running extremely shittily from the start. Basic updates don't happen. Constant bugs keep occuring.

Move onto themarketplace.i2p with actual multisig. Loki was right, and you all got dicked up the ass.

This guy really seems to know his shit!!

Why shouldn’t we fallow him?

As he walks out we lock the fcking door so his bitch ass cant come back to use the service that he slams. I’m sure you will be back. You probably can’t get a real connect in RL anyway.

I love you Defcon!
Wish I could give you a big smack on the lips

WTF?

Electrum is open source. It's not their client. Everything is open source.

Maybe we shouldn't download tor either since it's a download.

Tough to believe all your personal funds were sitting in SR along with all the escrow funds.

FE on all listings?

This will end well. lol

Quote from: Wilfred! on February 15, 2014, 11:45:31 pm

dont give this fucker the OK, that is 'OK' to loose this much money. Our money.  Bio Gen the 15k that you lost.  what the fuck.  this shit is wrong.  Its should NOT happen.  and now you want this fucker to go and re-build another one.  whats going to happen next.  loose all the coins again.  fail.

Mate what is being done about the money that has been lost???   

MANN the fuck UP and tell us VENDORS.  (your lively hood) what is going to be done about getting us our coins back. 

Do you seriously just think people will follow you blindly into your next FUCKUP. 
If you want to live buy anything you preach you will do whats right and that's get us vendors back our BTC.
Tell us what the fuck is really happening.

If you were dumb enough to have your whole life invested on SR a darknet market place. Then sorry but maybe you need a kick in you dumb ass.

I do feel for all who lost but it wasn’t just one person so don’t act like you’re above anyone else.

you rock i shit bacon that is so true so sweet

Thanks Defcon, respect for doing what you did in the aftermath and carrying out actions in the future to back up your sentiments. Heres to coming back better more secure.  Waiting anxiously for it.

I hope you will ensure that all trusted vendors who have reported the troubles that the loss of cash has caused them are prioritized and bailed out of their situations as soon as possible.  I'm sure you're aware that there are some very frightened people around these parts at the moment.  Let's hope that no blood is spilled because of this security oversight.  Good luck and +1 for your frank post.

Defcon people do not believe in you.....
they want to believe in the road...and since you are the main messenger they have to come through you.....
but its not actually you they are believing in....still they are sheep as they are unable to see through the messengers bullshit half disclosed LIES....

now this is personal
IF YOU EVER GET NICKED BY THE OLD BILL
ANY LOCK UP YOU FIND YOURSELF IN
I WILL MAKE CONTACT WITH HEADS IN THAT NICK!

EVEN IF I HAVE TO GET SHIPPED THEIR MYSELF I WILL....
THIS IS PERSONAL....
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROAD

I WILL SEE TO IT THAT YOU GET SHANKED UP..GOOD AND PROPER...YOU CUNT

Stealth: The above is disgusting. The fact that you would even say something like this defies the limits of my understanding of the human psyche. I'm leaving this obvious threat of violence and statement of ignorance so that every person who reads this thread will ignore your future "contributions."

Wow still so much hate here...

But what really happened?!

There was a magic site where people made lots of money;
The site was robbed for less then the ammount made on it in 1 month;
The staff of the site has promised to return 100% of this money;
People blame staff for incompetence?;




Profit.

Silk Road is regrouping for 24-48hrs after suffering a major attack.

What you should have done earlier, instead of being incompetent and keeping a market open that was full of bugs. And look, now our money is gone! Every single time you rush things cause people start whining about bugs. Then what you think happens? Seriously you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand it. You could have closed SR and opened up when it was fully functional and secure. We sure all would have been better off.

I respect you take responsibility for your mistakes. But I'm thinking your ship took a big blow. I hope for you guys it will recover.

Well, what's done is done, no point in bitching anymore I guess.

Btw, what's this thing about being off internet for a week? And you run a black market? Reality check?
 

Come on people! Onto THE MARKETPLACE a site that doesn't overuse metaphors (ships and captains) and isn't full of shit.

Looks like this pirate ship is a sewage ship.

Defcon has apologized in the most humble manner possible. Let's forgive and forget past problems and unite with our leader into a glorious future. He said everyone will be paid even if it takes a year and he is not financially benefiting from the site. I feel sad for Defcon trying to hold this together with no funds available to live on. Stay strong honey and we will help! Now let's get back to doing business and get some money to Defcon.

xxooxxoo

hot mama you want to give this fat pig more of your money? what the fuck is wrong with everyone

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Quote from: Wilfred! on February 15, 2014, 11:45:31 pm

dont give this fucker the OK, that is 'OK' to loose this much money. Our money.  Bio Gen the 15k that you lost.  what the fuck.  this shit is wrong.  Its should NOT happen.  and now you want this fucker to go and re-build another one.  whats going to happen next.  loose all the coins again.  fail.

Mate what is being done about the money that has been lost???   

MANN the fuck UP and tell us VENDORS.  (your lively hood) what is going to be done about getting us our coins back. 

Do you seriously just think people will follow you blindly into your next FUCKUP. 
If you want to live buy anything you preach you will do whats right and that's get us vendors back our BTC.
Tell us what the fuck is really happening.

If you were dumb enough to have your whole life invested on SR a darknet market place. Then sorry but maybe your need a kick in you dumb ass.

I do feel for all who lost but it wasn’t just one person so don’t act like you’re above anyone else.

I do not have my whole life invested in SR. I do vend on darkent sites as a full time gig however.

I have not mentioned the figure I have lost as that is unimportant.  what is important is he has lost 4000 of the community's BTC.  that needs to be repaid to the community.  But you watch.  Defcon continue to reep in commissions on sr3.  he wont let the vendors that have lost thousands pay no commissions.  good old fucking 8%.

ummm why sr3? sr2 was robbed, not shut down.

also, wasn't it 4%, 6% and 8% depending on how much you sell?

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Quote from: doctorwhat on February 15, 2014, 11:44:55 pm

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

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Great message.  Inspires some confidence.

But it certainly appears that the hacker may have had inside information or influence to perpetrate his theft. 

The questions around Cirrus, Stexo, DPR2 and the FBI are troubling.  Plus Oracle's psyops and Hinigul's rants.  That's a lot of smoke for no fire.  Do you really trust the co-admin, DPR2, Stexo, or whoever?  Can you say anything else to give us confidene in you that you're not being deceived?

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HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

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THIS?

LONG LIVE SR I BELIEVE

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Quote from: doctorwhat on February 15, 2014, 11:44:55 pm

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

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THIS?

whoever posted this question must be smart.

Yeah, I hear he's a doctor

defcon is the tony blair of hidden marketplaces...

low down dirty grimy sleazy cunt scum!

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Quote from: doctorwhat on February 15, 2014, 11:44:55 pm

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

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THIS?

whoever posted this question must be smart.

They really are

They are my mentor

They offer training in the art of douch baggery

The thing is…. I don’t think they are offering it on SR anymore. So sad

: ( :

oh dont worry it will be but youll have to FE. totes wont scam you.

low down dirty grimy sleazy cunt scum!

WHAT?!?!?!? who doxd my code name for your mom!???


noooooooo how will I get in touch with her now? what a fcking herpes riddled dickhead

: ( :

Quote from: parisproject on February 15, 2014, 11:28:55 pm

only FE market with current feedback system= scammer s heaven

We are open to suggestions. "Current feedback system" - what quick improvements would you make to enable FE-only to operate safer?

can t believe you have to ask this question

hm..pretty concerning to say the least.

there is no "quick" improvement,a new feedback system must be top priority ,whatever time it takes you shouldn t  open the market without a proper feedback system or your site is bound to be scammer s land.

Defcon, you have one of the most difficult, important, and thankless jobs that I can fathom. You have always put this community and the goals of Silk Road before yourself. I cannot imagine what all you have given up for this movement. Even when disaster strikes, when everyone is asking to bury you alive, you keep going. Just by stepping into this position you will probably be hunted down for the rest of your life, yet you continue to work day and night putting aside everything else for the movement, and for that I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. You and the rest of the Dev Team/Moderators/Admins/Etc., Thank You. We love you.

I personally do not believe this was an inside job, but that doesn't mean I'm not pissed at the lack of progress. When SR2 first started, the intro thread stated that a lot of lessons were learned, and that because of those lessons, a different BTC system would be used in which our wallets would be safe, even if LE took it down or it was hacked... and we unfortunaly trusted that. On SR1, I had purchased a very decent amount of items (prob more than average, but not very high), and I was never scammed once. Then SR2 came, and it became a haven for scammers. It seems like people who scam 10s of thousands of dollars, like nursejackie, were allowed to continue and do so with almost absolute impunity. I think most of these scammers felt more assured of their ability to continue their damage than Bashar al-Assad does. On top of that, all the website issues and no auto finalization really made most of us feel uncomfortable buying from SR2, and now with all our BTCs stolen... well, I dunno. Seems like quite a few people will stop buying on SR, but I also don't think it's completly dead. It will be on life support until auto-finalize is implemented, but if there are no more problems between now and then, I think SR may be able to make a recovery. I do understand that a lot of SR mods put a ton of time and effort into SR, as well as an almost unbelievable amount of risk (I wouldn't take the risk they are taking for a billion dollars in the bank), but they do make quite a lot of $$$, and I am very dissapointed that many/most of their promises never came to fruition, especially those designed to protect our BTC. I won't be coming back to SR, at least for now, but if everything goes smootly for the next few months, they are able to implement auto finaliztion and they crack down hard on scammers, I may come back (as may many others).

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HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

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2. A community needs to be comfortable with regular downtime - especially during periods when community safety and the safety of its money could be threatened. A good staff will be responsibly paranoid and hitting killswitches as they deem necessary, and should not be afraid of their community panicking each time precaution is exercised.

I dont want to be a pain in the ass but Defcon, seriously? How is that a lesson that you or we should've been learning? Didn't we (vendors) asked for you to take the market down COMPLETELY until the resolution center would be considered safe 100%? As the reason for postponing updates was always security? The market was up for weeks, making the backlog fill up more and more, and making the forums fill up with panic even more. Filling your forum staff with even more frustration about telling the same story over and over again.

If it was taken down for this cause, you would still have trolls and people complaining, but when you would've gotten back up it would have earned you all credits and people would be forgetting about it. People would be more confident about future downtime too. Now this has made you look like idiots and this is the lesson you've learned out of it? Get the fuck out of here.

I have said to you in a private message earlier regarding this mess, my upmost respect for doing stuff for people while risking your life doing so, but don't come up saying that you've learned that WE should be more comfortable with downtime. You should've learned that we can get more comfortable with downtime by showing us that you're actually listening and fixing stuff..

I still feel like you guys have guts to keep showing up with updates now that everything has gotten out of hand, have to say that. But what's this update actually saying? It's alot of looking back on what happened, i appreciate all the info, but what are you going to do from here? Is the market opening? Are losses going to be paid back or are we sharing the losses? Why isn't the market opening without escrow for vendors to try and make up for their losses? Whats happening with the crew, are you expanding so scammers can be avoided?

Maybe i have not read all responses and missed some of these things but it's pretty important information in my opinion. And no, i'm not a troll. I have been supporting your asses and trying to be realistic and positive to all of your users . I might sound negative, but its not that bad. If you're honestly showing face and excuse for your mistakes that's fine and i appreciate that but what about solutions, what about NOW (not the near future, but now)?

i'd like to add that these are not trolls. i was here through everything. i was here when they picked up ross. i was here when DPR2 launched the new site and defended him giving interviews and starting a twitter account. i was here for all the ddos attacks. i was here when our brothers were arrested. i was here when DPR2 fled, and oracle was spreading FUD on purpose. i was here through more DDOSing.

but this, this is too much. anyone who stays is a fool. anyone who "believes in our captain" is a fool. anyone who deposits one more bitcoin in SR2 is a fool. it's gutwrenching to see what DPR and defcon have done to silk road. look past your blind support for a man who has fucked you over more times than I can count and you'll see I'm right. if not, you deserve what's coming to you.

ill be positive after i get an answer to that question...seems like a bunch of people want to know.

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2. A community needs to be comfortable with regular downtime - especially during periods when community safety and the safety of its money could be threatened. A good staff will be responsibly paranoid and hitting killswitches as they deem necessary, and should not be afraid of their community panicking each time precaution is exercised.

I dont want to be a pain in the ass but Defcon, seriously? How is that a lesson that you or we should've been learning? Didn't we (vendors) asked for you to take the market down COMPLETELY until the resolution center would be considered safe 100%? As the reason for postponing updates was always security? The market was up for weeks, making the backlog fill up more and more, and making the forums fill up with panic even more. Filling your forum staff with even more frustration about telling the same story over and over again.

If it was taken down for this cause, you would still have trolls and people complaining, but when you would've gotten back up it would have earned you all credits and people would be forgetting about it. People would be more confident about future downtime too. Now this has made you look like idiots and this is the lesson you've learned out of it? Get the fuck out of here.

I have said to you in a private message earlier regarding this mess, my upmost respect for doing stuff for people while risking your life doing so, but don't come up saying that you've learned that WE should be more comfortable with downtime. You should've learned that we can get more comfortable with downtime by showing us that you're actually listening and fixing stuff..

I still feel like you guys have guts to keep showing up with updates now that everything has gotten out of hand, have to say that. But what's this update actually saying? It's alot of looking back on what happened, i appreciate all the info, but what are you going to do from here? Is the market opening? Are losses going to be paid back or are we sharing the losses? Why isn't the market opening without escrow for vendors to try and make up for their losses? Whats happening with the crew, are you expanding so scammers can be avoided?

Maybe i have not read all responses and missed some of these things but it's pretty important information in my opinion. And no, i'm not a troll. I have been supporting your asses and trying to be realistic and positive to all of your users . I might sound negative, but its not that bad. If you're honestly showing face and excuse for your mistakes that's fine and i appreciate that but what about solutions, what about NOW (not the near future, but now)?

A lot of truth in that last quote...

Quote from: doctorwhat on February 16, 2014, 12:21:39 am

ill be positive after i get an answer to that question...seems like a bunch of people want to know.

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you should answer this dude he seems to be the voice of the people defcon.

And naming people who have valid reasons and the right to know what happened to THEIR money on YOUR watch, trolls or tinfoils! Very humble things to say.

I used to love to this place and the mods have my respect, well most of them. But trust restored? Nah sorry

hey defcon,remember that question you should answer that.

I am catching up on a lot of communication. Can you specifically ask a full question? I have not read Hin's post yet.

I am catching up on a lot of communication. Can you specifically ask a full question? I have not read Hin's post yet.

Just contact him because and I quote him "he will not run to you this time"

I am catching up on a lot of communication. Can you specifically ask a full question? I have not read Hin's post yet.

I sent you a pm, please reply...

RETURN OUR COINS defcon, man we all know you jacked them.

If you didn't steal the btc than make it up to all of us who lost because you fucked up. YOU & staff should work with no pay until every single user is repaid. You fucked up make it right.

I am catching up on a lot of communication. Can you specifically ask a full question? I have not read Hin's post yet.

hiniguel says, this is in house(rogue agent), and is even oracle. along with other things i would like these answers. also he says he has alot of info about all this..

hotmama, you are ridiculous... but funny.

It's almost like you're hoping he will respond and agree to meet with you.

I understand you probably view him as a hero and it makes your panties wet... but talking about massaging him and cooking him meals is strange. 

so your saying its our fault for bitching about your shitty service while you wasn't responding to it and just left us guessing for like 6 weeks?

and also..

5. Accept that your community will hate you regardless. In the darknet, you will be crucified by your community if anything ever goes wrong.

this isn't something that is unique to the darknet. it applies to every business ever. customers who've had a bad experience will always shout the loudest about you. just look on the comments on most hotels and restaurants. most will be from disgruntled customers, happy customers will be less likely to tell you about their experience than unhappy ones, always. but just look at it as constructive criticism. you can gauge from it exactly what your customers don't like and then tailor your business to suit their needs better. bad feedback is one of the most helpful resources when designing your business.

business is always about providing a service that makes people happy. giving them the reason to spend their money with you.

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Quote from: ekemnu on February 16, 2014, 12:25:22 am

Hey Defcon, would it be possible to show us some proof-of-work on the support console? Maybe some screenshots of the staff facing interface (shouldn't compromise security one would think). Not saying I don't believe you guys, but having something tangible to show that there WAS work going on behind the scenes would be helpful to dispel the charge that the whole thing was a simple ruse, and what was really going on was that auto-finalization was disabled to allow money to build-up in the market before the heist.

yea lets do what we can to help the Feds out.

give me a fcking break, who are you to request shit from anyone.

he's someone who gave money for a service only to have it stolen. in most places that's called a dissatisfied customer. get fucking real.

I guess we should call the Better Business Bureau  to investigate this

Hahahaha!