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Silk Road Discussion / Re: *Important Anouncement*
« on: December 24, 2013, 10:48:22 am »
Thanks for this oracle. Interesting to read. Hopefully the disasterous mistakes of DPR1 can be avoided by the current crew.

On a side note, do you have any comments on the SR2/TorMarket conflict, or any theories as to what has happened to TM?

Is the TM disappearance linked to DPR2's threats towards them in any way?

No problem. I honestly have no idea about the SR2/TM conflict or what happened to TM. Speculating would just be my own personal opinion. I mean, who really knows? This is the darkweb.. weirder shit has happened.

I can say with some measure of surity that the mistakes of DPR1 will most probably not occur under the current regime. The mindset is totally different, the market forces have evolved, and knowing guys like Cirrus and Chemcat and Defcon.. I can safely bet that they're not the type to start ordering hitmen. LOL.


Silk Road Discussion / Re: *Important Anouncement*
« on: December 24, 2013, 10:43:29 am »
I love SR.  It's been a home to me and helped me accept myself for who I am.  I think many of us know how meaningful that can be for a person who has precious little acceptance from elsewhere in their life.  With that said... this statement is...

Please don't use other people's names without their permission, if nothing else.  I'm presuming since astor is no longer around, you did not have his permission.  And I'm sorry, but comparing StExo's competence in security to astor's is pretty insulting.  It's fine that not everybody knows as much about security as astor.  It isn't everybody's area or cup of tea, and there's nothing wrong with that.  But you wouldn't go saying that the little league star quarterback can hold his own with the guys in the NFL.  I mean it's not only bullshit, it's somewhat insulting and belittles the man's expertise.  Expertise which he shared with us frequently, I might add.

I'm not trying to hate on StExo, he was a nice guy, but if you're gonna say things at least make them things that people aren't gonna gag while reading... still, personal opinion aside, I still don't really see why everybody is freaking out the way they are.

And people call me paranoid  ::)

Totally fair enough. But there was a plan. And people were clamoring for the truth and that there's confusion and lots of theories and paranoia floating around.. I felt it appropriate to come out with the truth (and believe me I had to redact a lot for operational reasons). This is all how things went down. All involved know it, and the community deserves to know it as well.

Silk Road Discussion / Re: *Important Anouncement*
« on: December 24, 2013, 10:40:09 am »
I love it. Thanks for the update.

Most welcome.

Silk Road Discussion / Re: *Important Anouncement*
« on: December 24, 2013, 10:38:26 am »
It is all about information compartmentalization. Either you use the site or you don't. Act as though it is compromised, encrypt everything, wash your coins. It is pretty simple. Who cares who dpr is or whatever. Disclosing that just gives more ammo to our enemys.

Absolutely this. Information and personnel compartmentalization is key to a place like this. Those things were lacking (in my OPINION) in SR1.
If you have 1 man with all the information, all the processes, running multiple roles, handling everything.. you're either prone to fuckups (which happened) or security lapses (which happened).

If you compartmentalize, not any one person can bring about any significant amount damage or "knows too much" to be a vector of attack.


Having a multi pronged mechanism in place for every contingency, eventuality, and having trustworthy people who just "steer the ship" as opposed to ordering edicts is the way forward. And anwyays, if you're practicing good security procedures, you''ll never have anything to worry about (bar lighting striking you)

Silk Road Discussion / Re: *Important Anouncement*
« on: December 24, 2013, 10:30:02 am »
I don't mean to bitch but all that reading and it didn't really explain jack shit.

I mean I already knew 90% of what you said :-\   and I'm not even talknig to anyone behind the scenes.

man, I sure as fuck hope DPR him self comes back to this place cause shits getting wicked around this mother fucker.

Sorry you feel that way.. but you might be smarter then the average bear. Most people don't put 2+2 together, and need things spelled out. But things have to go according to plan. However, there's a balance between keeping operating procedure/management decisions with transparency and keeping the community in the loop. You know? Lots of people had no idea what was going on.. so now that the dust has settled, my job was to paint the picture as best as it can be done with minimal security leakage. If you knew 90% of what went/goes on behinds the scenes, then you sir, are the true oracle!

Regarding DPR coming backing.. I assume you mean DPR2. DPR1 is never coming back.. but you knew that.
DPR2, he very well might or might not. That's something DPR2 and/or the administration would address if that were the case. I can't speculate on another man's life decisions. But the Christmas break shutdown was pre-planned.. nothing wicked about that. The site will be re-opened as normal (according to what the staff has informed me and I believe them to be correct), and as long as you practice good security such as PGP.. you won't have any problems.
Remember, SR1 was glorious, but IMHO it was based around a personality cult of DPR1, and we can see in hindsight how that was probably not the best idea.
Bitcoins are decentralized. I'm not saying SR will ever be decentralized or should be.. but I myself are more prone to being the master of my own destiny and enjoying a freemarket, as opposed to a dictatorship type situation where its a 1 man operation and there's never any transparency.

Silk Road Discussion / Re: *Important Anouncement to Come Within 12 Hours*
« on: December 24, 2013, 10:12:37 am »
OP updated.

Silk Road Discussion / Re: *Important Anouncement to Come Within 12 Hours*
« on: December 24, 2013, 10:01:19 am »
Chill the fuck out guys... its not like you FE'd for him.  ::)

HA! +1 on this. Cracked me up. Much needed humor after a stressful few days.

And yes, I said "or so" meaning "give or take a few minutes"... I'll be posting shortly and updating the OP.

Silk Road Discussion / Re: *Important Anouncement to Come Within 12 Hours*
« on: December 24, 2013, 09:11:32 am »

It's ok Nero. You insensitive prick. Playing the fiddle while Rome burns and all. I say "fuck" to myself all the time.. but it's mostly "fuck me baby" when one of my godesses (I fancy myself a Charlie Sheen esque character) prances around the castle nude.

Not all love Oracle though. Most, but not all.. :-\

Correct me if im wrong master, but 52min left aaait?

Sounds about right.

Silk Road Discussion / Re: *Important Anouncement to Come Within 12 Hours*
« on: December 24, 2013, 08:58:51 am »
I know, I got like -3 earlier because I said the word fuck at him! Damn you oracle-loving negative karma givers!

It's ok Nero. You insensitive prick. Playing the fiddle while Rome burns and all. I say "fuck" to myself all the time.. but it's mostly "fuck me baby" when one of my godesses (I fancy myself a Charlie Sheen esque character) prances around the castle nude.

Not all love Oracle though. Most, but not all.. :-\

Silk Road Discussion / Re: *Important Anouncement to Come Within 12 Hours*
« on: December 24, 2013, 02:45:09 am »
Thank you for your concern Nero.


Silk Road Discussion / Re: *Important Anouncement to Come Within 12 Hours*
« on: December 24, 2013, 12:03:31 am »
Oracle: What is your motives here? Dont give me the community and safety answer. Lets say DPR/Defcon pass the torch, will you jump up and give it a try?

Here is your time to shine, because you say you want a change and involve the community much more, but the problem is you dont come up with a soloution, you only want change what is now......? But change shouldnt happend before a proper soloution is in place. So how you want to handle this?

To answer a lot of questions, lay out the entire story (going back months), confirm/deny certain facts and theories.. and then leave you all to it. Everyone is an adult, free to make up their own mind how to proceed. It's not my job to give solutions. It's not my job to do anything. It's my moral compass and conscience, as well as sense of commitment to lay everything on the table at a critical time. It's not to cause panick, joy, or neutrality. That's up to the community.
And safety is obviously paramount. Even those I don't particular care for, I won't throw them to the wolves.

I think that's the best course of action rather then speaking to journalists, vendors, buyers, forum members etc in pieacemeal via PM, Safe-mail, torchat etc.
Lay out the big picture in a clear, succinct timeline and then hopefully give everyone peace of mind.

Silk Road Discussion / Re: *Important Anouncement to Come Within 12 Hours*
« on: December 23, 2013, 11:03:10 pm »
Going to back up oracle on this one. Haven't posted since all the shenanigans last weekend, but I have been watching SR2 from the very start and oracle warned everyone of repercussions from SR1 before the new market was even opened and has led me no reason to believe oracle is a troll. (Which I very did so in the beginning)

Appreciate that Kush.

Silk Road Discussion / Re: *Important Anouncement to Come Within 12 Hours*
« on: December 23, 2013, 10:28:21 pm »
Thanks guys. I said within 12 hours because I have IRL engagements I have to tend to, as I'm a human being as well. Additionally, the wording has to be just right, because it involves ongoing legal issues RE: Ross, Inigo, Libertas, SSBD etc and have potential legal ramifications and consequences on others. Most importantly, there are eyes watching this forums every post, archiving every post, edit, and sneeze made here. Things have to be done with maturity.

Being cautious never hurt anyone. Being rushed.. yeah... not the best idea.

Silk Road Discussion / Re: *Important Anouncement to Come Within 12 Hours*
« on: December 23, 2013, 09:57:07 pm »
DrAdam - Understood, and that's why I will be shedding some light that should hopefully restore everyone's faith. Have never let this community down before, will never in the future.

Supersaurus - here.

Silk Road Discussion / *Important Anouncement* op updated
« on: December 23, 2013, 09:52:21 pm »
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Alright, I’m going to try to shed a little light on some things that should hopefully give you all a collective sigh of relief, put to rest some theories, and reveal my intentions.
While doing so, I have to walk a fine line between personal OPSEC, maintaining the anonymity & privacy of others, and sticking to a commitment to respect that “behind the scenes shit” that sometimes has to be done.

It’s been about four days since the unfortunate arrests of Libertas, Inigo and SSBD.
It’s been about two/three days since DPR2 has been heard from.
It’s been almost three months since SR1 was shutdown and DPR1 was arrested
It’s been about two and a half months since the new SR “setup” came into being.

I first publicly popped into the picture when these forums first went up, but my association goes back to way before that. I can’t get into details, but I’ve never been a mod/admin/developer/vendor/buyer on either SR1 or SR2, but I have been privy to quite a bit of the inner workings of both. I’ve seen a lot of cool shit happen, a lot of sad shit happen, and I’ve always had the community’s interests at heart. I have 0 financial stake in SR1 or SR2, but I do think Silk Road is perhaps one of the coolest fucking concepts of our life time.

That being said, it’s time for a factual trip down memory lane folks.

Some of you are too young to remember (did I really just say that?!), but many moons ago on the original forum, DPR1 had posted a Job Hire looking for experienced developers/coders. People made some noise and bitched about how that would compromise the site’s security. But DPR1 had made a solid guarantee that anyone contracted to work on the site in a developer capacity would be in somewhat of an isolated environment, and they’d never ever have access to anything critical. And that’s exactly true. He did contract some work out, to two (I think) devs, and had them help him with the code. He never asked for their doxx (as he required from Administrators such as Libertas or Inigo) because they were never in any position to damage the site or do anything malicious. They weren’t able to push anything live, and were essentially just hired hands. DPR1 (Ross) controlled the actual live implementation. Libertas, SSBD, and Inigo WERE required to provide their doxx details to him as per his rules. Why they did that.. is a question they will probably be asking themselves a long fucking time. Cirrus and some of the other mods that came and went never provided any doxx information, as they were only forum moderators and had no power over the actual live, ecommerce valhalla known as Silk Road.

StExo was a prominent poster/member of the SR1 forum community (if you’re reading this Stex, drop a line sometime.. and share some of those gazillions in the Christmas spirit!) who was very, very well versed in security methods. He always provided some pretty solid security related guidance on the forums and privately. He’s pretty famous on the clearnet as well as “money launderer to the elite” or something.

Fast forward to Ocotober 2 2013 -
Ross Ulbricht is busted, SR1 is seized and panic ensues. That day sucked ass! It’s pointless dwelling on the facts surrounding that, but I think it’s obvious now that Ross made some serious fuckups, and he cooked his own goose. Nevertheless, it’s sad how fate played out for him.

After the chaos that ensued that day, there was some behind the scene actions that brought about SR2 and SR2 forums:
A couple of the contracted devs, some of the admins/mods, security gurus like StExo and Astor, and a few other close stakeholders/associates had some back&forth on how to move forward (if at all) and who’d have what role. Initially the general consensus was that Libertas should be “DPR2”, yet Libertas himself and a few others dissented that this would be a bad move as Ross had Libertas’s doxx and nobody knew if his laptop was encrypted or if he stored the doxx or wrote them down. (Obviously at this point everyone assumed Ross wouldn’t talk/plea.. and even in his initial court appearance he “disavowed all aliases”) But the fear was LE forensics would somehow decrypt or locate the doxx he kept on his administrators. The next contender up was StExo. StExo never “laundered SR’s money” as someone wrote on the forums. StExo once referred a Canadian money launderer to either DPR1 or the admins, and it’s likely DPR1 (Ross) had that person’s doxx, but Ross never got around to laundering anything(all the BTC was seized from his laptop), and StExo mentioned the last he heard from the Canadian was right after SR1 went down.. and then he just went off the grid. Stexo was a security genius though, so that option was also kicked around for being the new DPR. StExo declined because he said he didn’t need the money as he had made a fuckton of dough over the past few decades and didn’t really have the time because he was semi retired and wasn’t interested in meeting the same fate DPR1 did. The next contender was a prominent member of the SR1 community who was tech savvy and super into the whole libeteraian/freemarket/Silk Road forever school of thought. Ding ding ding, we have a winner. DPR2 was born, and agreed upon by all the members of this “high council” (pun intended LOL). Stexo and Astor vouched for his security/OPSEC bona fides, Libertas and company vouched that he had no record of buying/vending, and the nerds vouched that he’d be capable of administering a site.

The next steps were how to get things up and running, and what to do in the event of another catastrophe

1)The coders went to work to build SR2, which took forever and was buggy as hell because they really did not have access to a majority of the database or code that Ross did. This is why it took SR2 so long to get up to speed and bug free
2) A plan was put in place to have a few “Sleepers” in the crowd. This was a contingency plan in the event of DPR2 or SR2’s capture/seizure. The key element was to be a “sleeper”, it had to be someone that Ross/DPR1 never had any doxx on. The job of the sleeper mods were to integrate themselves into the community, maintain a good reputation and gain respect/trust, never buy/vend, and only “be activated” if shit hit the fan. The “sleeper admins” job was to run the servers. They’d regroup and immediately either re-construct SR, the forums or both.
3) A plan was put into play to spread disinformation on the forums for LE/haters/trolls/competition and other nay-sayers. Psy-ops.

Fast forward to now:

Because of (what we assume) is Ross’s cooperation (as mentioned in several news articles) and his attorneys strategy to resolve the case ASAP, Libertas/Inigo/SSBD were all nailed. Again another sad day. DPR2, for reasons I don’t think anyone can blame him, decided he would have to vanish, and the system that was in place will take over. This is something I don’t think anybody should hold against the guy. If you see over half your staff get busted in a coordinated worldwide swoop, you are not going to sit calm. You’re going to clean house and get the fuck out of Dodge.

This week you’ve seen a few “sleepers” get promoted as moderators. You’ve seen a sleeper admin take over entire control of the forums and site. This can’t be stressed enough, the sleepers (mods and admin(s)) have absolutely 0 connection to Ross Ulbricht. None. He had no information/doxx on them, and they’re absolutely removed from his reach. This team was formed while he was sitting behind bars. Unfortunately, the last remaining vestige of Ross (or his laptops) potential damage were Lib/Inigo/SSBD.
Cirrus and ChemCat have always been mods and therefore never had to hand over their doxx to anyone. Even DPR2 had no connection to Ross, and Ross would be unable to identify him as he was chosen later. DPR2 is smart however, and it’s very likely he’s halfway around the world by now. However, the first few days, everyone involved, had a responsibility to

A)Gauge the damage done by the recent wave of arrests
B)Make sure the “sleepers” and backup mechanism were activated properly and with precision
C)Play a round of psy-ops to protect DPR2 while he had enough time to wipe his slate clean

If you look at my old posting history, back to October, I always projected an image of “distrustful yet grudgingly accepting insider”. Close enough to people to know “where the skeletons are buried”, yet be (a bit TOO) vocal about SR2/DPR2’s decisions. Insider dissent. Perhaps LE would try to flip me? Perhaps I’d let something slip out of anger/spite to burn SR down to the ground? Or perhaps I was tasked to cultivate a certain image/trust/credibility and only show up when the need to gauge the response of any big change occurred.

When DPR2 vanished, I made a post that I will be shedding some light on the events. Behind the scenes, conversations were taking place on how best to buy some time for him to wipe his slate clean and also see just how deep the Libertas damage was.
When it became apparent that the arrests were ONLY legacy arrests based on SR1 roles/activities, I decided to have some fun with the pys-ops portion of it. Notice how no moderator, nor Cirrus, not Chemcat, and not Defcon stopped me from any of my ranting and raving. Nothing I said got deleted. Nothing I wrote was confirmed or denied.

The decision to drop subtle and not so subtle hints that DPR2 is Astor, DPR2 is Stexo, DPR2 is Scout, to check your PIN# on the site to make sure BTC was still there was done to mind-fuck those who wish to see SR shut down and break the spirit of this community. I knew Stex or Astor or Scout etc wouldn’t mind because these guys were fucking good with security, they’ve been out of the loop/scene for several months, and they all rarely login here. Painting Defcon as DPR2 was icing on the cake.. since he’s clearly not, as he’s been around since mid November.. and DPR2 or anyone would have had no idea that a “new Admin” would be needed to pull off some fuckery since nobody could have anticipated Libertas/Inigo/SSBD’s capture.

Now that a few days have elapsed, it was time to tell the community to relax, take a deep breathe, and everything is under control. The “sleepers” (sounds like the Walking Dead) have taken full control of the forums and site (no palace coups, no fake-your-own-vanishing acts, no Sheep Market scams), DPR2 is long gone and hopefully safe and sound (or we’d have heard about it by now), and site is closed as was scheduled for Christmas weeks ago.. and will re-open as scheduled. Nothing skipped a beat.

The good news:
SR2 site/forums is fully under control of the admins/mods
The site works fine, and is only scheduled to be down for Christmas
Nothing and nobody else is in danger as everything that went down was remnants from the original SR1 shutdown/arrests
DPR2 by now is probably completely safe and won’t be in a cage for daring to stand up to a failed War on Drugs and it’s oppressive minions

The bad news:
We’ve lost Libertas/Inigo/SSBD
The community had to sit in confusion as to what was going on and who was in charge and be subject to wild psy-ops (sorry.. but necessary evil!)

The best news:
1)SR will be back after Christmas as regularly scheduled
2)We’re gonna fucking win this thing

I know this is a lot to soak in, but hopefully explains my cryptic “announcements” and other various confusing elements as to who’s in charge, is the site safe, etc etc

Theres a lot of stuff that had to be redacted from this essay as per OPSEC and SR’s policy, but know that everyone involved either overtly or covertly has nothing but the community’s interests at heart and love this place.

Ohyeah, Merry Christmas!

*PS - No questions about my role. Can’t answer. I can say I’m not an “employee” or an undercover mod/admin. I’m just a friend with benefits. Ok.. seriously. Think of Harvey Keitel’s role in “Pulp Fiction”. Cool fucking guy, aint he?



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