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Off Topic / MOVED: Mark Williams' bitcoin article on
« on: December 19, 2013, 01:03:31 am »
This topic has been moved to Security (http://silkroad5v7dywlc.onion/index.php?board=2.0).


Security / Re: *** BTC PRICE CRASH THREAD ***
« on: December 18, 2013, 05:39:38 pm »

« on: December 18, 2013, 05:39:08 pm »

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Security / Mark Williams' bitcoin article on
« on: December 18, 2013, 05:13:17 pm »
My response to the following article:

More importantly, to anyone who believes it... Please read:

      It is so hard to stop my blood from boiling every time I see one of these anti-bitcoin journalists writing such utter bullshit, thumping their chest in a triumphant "told-you-so" every single time the exchange rate drops. YES bitcoin is volatile. YES bitcoin will have countless ups and downs in the coming years. YES you may have said bitcoin was destined to fail when you first heard about it, but NO you are not witnessing the bitcoin monetary system fail.

What you are witnessing is the herd mentality of human beings, or better yet evidence of the fact that market prices of any kind (including stocks, commodities, etc) are more directly affected by mood and emotion than any other factor. The same fundamentals that made bitcoin such a genius idea from the beginning still apply today. The only thing that's changed from a few days ago is that the biggest bitcoin exchange in the world is under attack by a desperate and nervous government. If anyone thought that bitcoin could take the world by storm without the powers-that-be putting up a hell of a fight, then you don't understand the potential of bitcoin. We aim to take back control of the world economy from evil, greedy, power-hungry scum and give it back to the people. The central bankers and those they work for use their control of the money supply to wield complete control over the entire human race, and modern society as a whole. The economy is the underlying basis for everything. They control all power by stunting it's growth and directing wealth where they see fit. They are not going to just let go of that power without fighting tooth and nail, using every resource at their disposal to crush any threat that comes along.

The beautiful thing about bitcoin is that it can't easily be stopped. It represents the greatest tool/weapon we the people have EVER had to turn the tides of freedom in our favor. Thanks to the concept of decentralized currency like bitcoin, we now have the opportunity to destroy the old ways of tyranny, oppression, and slavery; and rebuild a new world of free markets, a free economy, a world where there are no chains to stop modern civilization from growing as fast as our creativity can take us. A world where enough wealth can be created with ease to make poverty a thing of history books, where people can work less, earn more, and use their free time to explore the wonders of the universe and all that life has to offer. The only thing standing between us and that wonderful future are the current powers that run the show today, those same powers who are scared shit-less trying to destroy our faith and belief in bitcoin by making up ridiculous rules that become "law of the land" as if their rules hold the same weight as laws of physics.

You may not hold the same hope for the future that I do, you may think I'm a dreamer, an idealist, and who knows, maybe you're right. But what I can promise you, is that bitcoin will not be defeated because the Chinese government passes a few laws. You really think bitcoin can't survive without our precious, obedient, government-suck-up exchanges?!?!

They can pass any laws they want. They will only succeed in forcing us underground (where its better, easier, and safer to be anyway). How many of you actually use Mt. Gox still?? Did their US regulations stop bitcoin from spreading here? Fuck no.

The Chinese will soon have their own "" types of websites, and their own local meet-ups, and whatever else the infinitely creative human ingenuity will come up with next to get around the regulations. Just because they dealt a blow to us, doesn't mean in the least bit we are down for the count. Bitcoin can survive this without breaking a sweat, and we will eventually be tested by, and survive, much worse. Let our enemies bring whatever they have. If your smart, you'll use the ups and downs to your advantage to make a killer profit.

If you take away anything from this out-pouring of my heart, let it be this: Don't blindly accept their propaganda as truth. The more we grow, the more we spread across the globe, the more resistance we will meet from those in control and those they've brainwashed. Propaganda is an art form they have mastered since the beginning of civilization. It takes a truly free and strong minded person to think objectively, and form their own opinion based on the facts.

¡Viva la Revolución!

Silk Road Discussion / Re: My angry, drunken posts on the forums...
« on: December 18, 2013, 05:02:54 pm »
I admire your character, to come forward and apologize like that shows you possess the integrity and honor that most men sadly lack.


Security / Re: BTC just droped 28%!
« on: December 18, 2013, 04:39:21 pm »

My response to this article: http://silkroad5v7dywlc.onion/index.php?topic=9723.0

The best definition of “the State” i've seen so far (quote from the book):

“the State is that organization in society which attempts to maintain a monopoly of the use of force and violence in a given territorial area.”

One of my favorite quotes as well. If only they would teach kids this in civics class in school...

Glad to have you with us EXIT. Thanks for participating! Keep it up.

I am really exited to be a part of this club, thanks inigo <3

I am really excited to have you on board TB. Looking forward to hearing your opinion!  ;)

Some of my favorite quotes so far, this is incredibly well written.

Quote from: Murray N. Rothbard

"We are the government." The useful collective term "we" has enabled an ideological camouflage to be thrown over the reality of political life. If "we are the government," then anything a government does to an individual is not only just and untyrannical but also "voluntary" on the part of the individual concerned. If the government has incurred a huge public debt which must be paid by taxing one group for the benefit of another, this reality of burden is obscured by saying that "we owe it to ourselves"; if the government conscripts a man, or throws him into jail for dissident opinion, then he is "doing it to himself" and, therefore, nothing untoward has occurred.

We must, therefore, emphasize that "we" are not the government; the government is not "us.

For the masses of men do not create their own ideas, or indeed think through these ideas independently; they follow passively the ideas adopted and disseminated by the body of intellectuals. The intellectuals are, therefore, the "opinion-molders" in society. And since it is precisely a molding of opinion that the State most desperately needs, the basis for age-old alliance between the State and the intellectuals becomes clear.

If "Ruritania" was being attacked by "Walldavia," the first task of the State and its intellectuals was to convince the people of Ruritania that the attack was really upon them and not simply upon the ruling caste. In this way, a war between rulers was converted into a war between peoples, with each people coming to the defense of its rulers in the erroneous belief that the rulers were defending them.


I'm honestly amazed, everything thus far can be compared and seems so logical and correct. Take the section about 'intellectuals'. Go back 2000* years and the intellectuals had another name, philosophers. Take philosophers from the Roman era, what do they encourage; honor in battle, which coincidentally was a primary driving force of the roman military which was the key to their expansion, power and success on diplomatic, militaristic and social level.

"timidi mater non flet", which translates to "A cowards mother does not weep"... Seems to fit very well with the desires of the state at that time, Funny.

Time to continue my read.

That is a great point pK! I'm stoked your getting involved in our bookclub, the turn out is better than I was expecting so far!  ;D

I'm thrilled to hear your as amazed as I am, it's kind of mindblowing when it hits you just how logical these concepts are. I have a feeling like you'd really enjoy some of Rothbard's other works as well.  :)

Everyone here should join the book club. I promise there will be plenty of intellectually stimulating topics up for debate, and I welcome as many participants as possible, including those who disagree with our views. (Obviously a good debate wouldn't be possible without you.)

How do I join book club, and is the book club going to be on during christmas break? i started reading anatomy of the state :)

All you have to do is read the selected book and discuss it in the proper thread. Sounds like your already on the right track. Can't wait to hear what you think of the book! I'll see you over in the book club thread.  :)

Philosophy, Economics and Justice / Re: How to get your WINGS
« on: December 16, 2013, 07:15:40 am »
So staring directly into the sun for a couple hours a day will actually improve my vision?? No wonder I can't see for shit... I've been doing the opposite.  :o

Newbie Discussion / Re: TessellatedMDMA?
« on: December 15, 2013, 06:53:48 pm »
I took care of it. Please be more careful in the future Tessellated. "Loose lips sink ships"  :P

Everyone here should join the book club. I promise there will be plenty of intellectually stimulating topics up for debate, and I welcome as many participants as possible, including those who disagree with our views. (Obviously a good debate wouldn't be possible without you.)

Philosophy, Economics and Justice / Re: ***Inigo's Book Club***
« on: December 15, 2013, 06:16:47 am »
I have posted a new reading selection that will keep us occupied for the next two weeks. I am planning on starting a poll for our 3rd selection sometime in the coming few days.

Sorry for the delay in getting a new reading selection up. I am going to go ahead and select one for us to get started on for now, but don't worry, this is a short one.

This week we will begin reading a book by the great Murray Rothbard, my all time favorite economist, and the father of Anarcho-Capitalism.

'Anatomy of the State' is one of his shortest works, yet in so few pages he manages to pack in so much knowledge and wisdom about the nature of "the state", it really is no wonder he is revered as one of the greatest libertarian minds in history.

The entire book is roughly 60 pages, which we will split up into two weeks. This week, we will read the first four chapters, which stops us at the bottom of page 29.

I have once again uploaded a PDF version of the book to for you all to download safely. You will find the link below.

I also encourage you to purchase the book from anywhere you like. Personally there is something about reading a hard copy that just can't be replicated when reading something on a computer monitor.

I am looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts on this book.



Shipping / Re: PO boxes
« on: December 13, 2013, 09:53:12 am »
When your ordering to a PO BOX you can't use fake names.  They will only put mail in the box that is addressed to the owner.  I think a PO Box is a pretty good option for you.

That's why you don't get a PO Box.  Get a UPS Store mailbox because they will deliver *any* mail addressed to that box number, REGARDLESS of whose name is on it.

Actually I'm pretty sure this isn't true. I remember doing some research on P.O. boxes a while back when working on the old SR wiki, and I went to a UPS store to ask about their mailbox program. One of the main things they made very clear was that only mail addressed to the mailbox owner's name would be accepted, and any mail that wasn't addressed to said person's name would be sent back as undeliverable. I am pretty sure this is a post 9/11 U.S. nation-wide law that applies to all private businesses that offer mailbox services.

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