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Everyone take a deep breath
« on: January 24, 2014, 03:14:59 am »
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Community,

we have not formally met before but that is not important right now. I am a part of the mysterious "dev team" people often talk about on the forum and I feel obliged to post an update on current situations coupled with a retort to some of the hooligans running loose.

First and foremost, progress is being made. We do not work on the server live, everything we do is tested extensively before it even sees an internet enabled device and then further scrutinized on a locked down testing server before being pushed into the live environment. Typically development of any feature can take up to a month from finishing up the code to release because of this process. This is inconvenient we understand but we are also the only market which has not been hacked yet for this reason and you can be sure people would be far more upset with us if we were negligent in our duties to protect the users.

Secondly, Defcon is not dead. Like me and the others he is hard at work and typically when one announcement is made, it is followed by a storm of further questions and wild theories which waste valuable time. This perhaps answers why the louder some people kick and cry for us to post, the less we actually do.

When developing a project in the circumstances of Silk Road, we are not merely fixing bugs or dealing with trivial usability problems. Silk Road has a team well beyond the competence of even many professional cohorts that work for three letter agencies and we all have something in common: pushing limits. The problems we face are not something a quick line of code will fix but require changes in the actual Tor network itself and until the next generation of hidden services are released we are having to make do. The fact of the situation is nobody has ever done what we are doing and so we must tread carefully into the unknown. Our recent contributions are for example feeding back information to the right people when we are attacked so such issues can be addressed not only by us but by Tor at large. Anyone who remembers the DDOS not so long ago may find there is odd timing that shortly after this researchers were tipped off to what is now known as the "Sniper attack" - now fixed at a network level so all may benefit on a safer network.

Some users have also taken the liberty to publicly complain of what they deem to be slow progress, then making suggestions such as "Fix the captcha". If you want to know the problems of Silk Road, it is nothing to do with the source code of the site actually, almost all the team work on various layer 3 and 4 (TCP/UDP/SCTP/IPv4) matters and another contingent work on various application layer problems. The sentiment we have poorly coded SR is based on perception only, Silk Road could better be described as a nuclear bunker when it comes to security and stability - it is the network itself which is crumbling (vendors can see this first hand by comparing performance between the public URL and vendor URL).

I have noticed there are others trying to rally an exodus of Silk Road too and move to the other markets as a form of protest. Those calling for such things please do not waste your breath here and just leave instead because frankly I do not care and neither do the management. You have put hope into other markets before, DPR2 made a high profile attack on Tor Market to prove how foolish some of your assumptions are and that was only a speck of effort from a single person in our team so imagine what the full force of our security detail could accomplish. If you want to get into the business of illegal markets on Tor, you have to be prepared for full scale cyberwarfare or you are not going to be able to protect your user base.



Now that part is over, a quick update.

Support: The support system has been rolled out already although we haven't patched it up yet to sync with your accounts. Moderators and market staff already have access to this support system and are working through your tickets as we speak, you will receive their responses as soon as the dev team green light the live patch. This means the moment we do go live, every support ticket will be answered and there will be little or no backlog anymore.

Lost password/PIN: As above, this will be rapidly worked through as soon as we patch up the system to the live server.

Escrow Funds: Same story different system. Once the release is pushed, everything will be running smoothly without a problem and we won't have this issue again.

Login Problems/CAPTCHA: We are aware of this and working on a solution now. I was asked not to reference specific times or days but just be patient as it won't be long.

One of the others will follow this post up with more information soon but until then - everyone calm the fuck down and breathe. In through the nose, out through the mouth people.
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Community,

we have not formally met before but that is not important right now. I am a part of the mysterious "dev team" people often talk about on the forum and I feel obliged to post an update on current situations coupled with a retort to some of the hooligans running loose.

First and foremost, progress is being made. We do not work on the server live, everything we do is tested extensively before it even sees an internet enabled device and then further scrutinized on a locked down testing server before being pushed into the live environment. Typically development of any feature can take up to a month from finishing up the code to release because of this process. This is inconvenient we understand but we are also the only market which has not been hacked yet for this reason and you can be sure people would be far more upset with us if we were negligent in our duties to protect the users.

Secondly, Defcon is not dead. Like me and the others he is hard at work and typically when one announcement is made, it is followed by a storm of further questions and wild theories which waste valuable time. This perhaps answers why the louder some people kick and cry for us to post, the less we actually do.

When developing a project in the circumstances of Silk Road, we are not merely fixing bugs or dealing with trivial usability problems. Silk Road has a team well beyond the competence of even many professional cohorts that work for three letter agencies and we all have something in common: pushing limits. The problems we face are not something a quick line of code will fix but require changes in the actual Tor network itself and until the next generation of hidden services are released we are having to make do. The fact of the situation is nobody has ever done what we are doing and so we must tread carefully into the unknown. Our recent contributions are for example feeding back information to the right people when we are attacked so such issues can be addressed not only by us but by Tor at large. Anyone who remembers the DDOS not so long ago may find there is odd timing that shortly after this researchers were tipped off to what is now known as the "Sniper attack" - now fixed at a network level so all may benefit on a safer network.

Some users have also taken the liberty to publicly complain of what they deem to be slow progress, then making suggestions such as "Fix the captcha". If you want to know the problems of Silk Road, it is nothing to do with the source code of the site actually, almost all the team work on various layer 3 and 4 (TCP/UDP/SCTP/IPv4) matters and another contingent work on various application layer problems. The sentiment we have poorly coded SR is based on perception only, Silk Road could better be described as a nuclear bunker when it comes to security and stability - it is the network itself which is crumbling (vendors can see this first hand by comparing performance between the public URL and vendor URL).

I have noticed there are others trying to rally an exodus of Silk Road too and move to the other markets as a form of protest. Those calling for such things please do not waste your breath here and just leave instead because frankly I do not care and neither do the management. You have put hope into other markets before, DPR2 made a high profile attack on Tor Market to prove how foolish some of your assumptions are and that was only a speck of effort from a single person in our team so imagine what the full force of our security detail could accomplish. If you want to get into the business of illegal markets on Tor, you have to be prepared for full scale cyberwarfare or you are not going to be able to protect your user base.

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Now that part is over, a quick update.

[b]Support:[/b] The support system has been rolled out already although we haven't patched it up yet to sync with your accounts. Moderators and market staff already have access to this support system and are working through your tickets as we speak, you will receive their responses as soon as the dev team green light the live patch. This means the moment we do go live, every support ticket will be answered and there will be little or no backlog anymore.

[b]Lost password/PIN:[/b] As above, this will be rapidly worked through as soon as we patch up the system to the live server.

[b]Escrow Funds:[/b] Same story different system. Once the release is pushed, everything will be running smoothly without a problem and we won't have this issue again.

[b]Login Problems/CAPTCHA:[/b] We are aware of this and working on a solution now. I was asked not to reference specific times or days but just be patient as it won't be long.

One of the others will follow this post up with more information soon but until then - everyone calm the fuck down and breathe. In through the nose, out through the mouth people.
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2014, 03:19:25 am »
Thanks for your update +1
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2014, 03:33:56 am »
I'm curious as to when AF is going to be released? I'm pretty sure my first fucking order is trying to scam me and not release funds. Nice start to my first week :/
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2014, 03:38:32 am »
HUX

Can you please touch base on the issue where vendors have lost their abilities to vend because of the bond glitch? Sorry to be a whiney bitch, but I'm mostly concerned about the unaware customers that get the hose because they keep ordering from me.

Any insight would be great.

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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2014, 03:39:16 am »
I'm curious as to when AF is going to be released? I'm pretty sure my first fucking order is trying to scam me and not release funds. Nice start to my first week :/
thanks for the update bro. I hope this calms this place down seriously
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2014, 03:45:29 am »
Thanks for coming out of the dark and giving the public an update, Hux.

For those wondering, Hux has been with us since the beginning and been invaluable to us new staff members. I'm quite surprised he decided to make himself public like this. Good on ya, mate.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2014, 03:54:18 am »
Nice to meet you Hux.  I look forward to the support system coming live so I can finally get back to my vendor account.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2014, 04:03:20 am »
the louder some people kick and cry for us to post, the less we actually do.

what are you, like 12 years old or something. of course people are kicking and crying for you to post. because the market is going to shit, everyone's getting fucked off and you guys aren't telling us anything, which creates FUD more than anything. do you understand that as an online marketplace you have a duty and commitment to your users? we pay 8% of everything we spend here to you. its not too much to expect a decent working marketplace that won't lock us out, lock up our coin and ruin our vendors so they end up going out of fucking business while waiting for shit to get sorted.

this is exactly the more reason for you to be taking the odd 5 fucking minutes to let us know what's going on or at least let us know you're doing something about it. FFS man.

With the volume this place is doing, considering scam accounts beating people down for tens of thousands of dollars, they shouldn't be getting 8%, their staff is nowhere near 2% of the combined effort to transact. That is where the beef should be, 8%-4% should be what they charge when this site operates smoothly.. commission should be dropped to sub 4% while you guys are getting your shit together because there is an army of people that have their shit together, operating, without guarantee of pay(no autofinalize) hinging on the efforts of very few..

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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2014, 04:03:54 am »
Well said OP
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2014, 04:06:12 am »
If they are truly down for the cause some stats about how much commission they've raked in would be nice. I bet it is a staggering figure, like something that would make you think, holy fuck, at least their commission coding is all worked out these niggas are getting paid...

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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2014, 04:06:21 am »
the louder some people kick and cry for us to post, the less we actually do.

what are you, like 12 years old or something. of course people are kicking and crying for you to post. because the market is going to shit, everyone's getting fucked off and you guys aren't telling us anything, which creates FUD more than anything. do you understand that as an online marketplace you have a duty and commitment to your users? we pay 8% of everything we spend here to you. its not too much to expect a decent working marketplace that won't lock us out, lock up our coin and ruin our vendors so they end up going out of fucking business while waiting for shit to get sorted.

this is exactly the more reason for you to be taking the odd 5 fucking minutes to let us know what's going on or at least let us know you're doing something about it. FFS man.

With the volume this place is doing, considering scam accounts beating people down for tens of thousands of dollars, they shouldn't be getting 8%, their staff is nowhere near 2% of the combined effort to transact. That is where the beef should be, 8%-4% should be what they charge when this site operates smoothly.. commission should be dropped to sub 4% while you guys are getting your shit together because there is an army of people that have their shit together, operating, without guarantee of pay(no autofinalize) hinging on the efforts of very few..

Yup......how can they charge 8% and let vendors do shit like this (was on maninthemiddle's profile):



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I made 40k+ off you dumb fucks....lol...wow

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 Seriously? You guys can't deal with shit like this?

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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2014, 04:09:43 am »
LOVE IT! jesus christ couldnet have been said better IMOP :)
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2014, 04:11:55 am »
Thank you very much for this long awaited update. Keep up the good work. You guys are doing an amazing job at what you do.
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2014, 04:15:49 am »
Thank you for the much needed pet.   ;)
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2014, 04:26:34 am »
I think sometimes people forget that this service is not owed to anyone. We should all be grateful that ppl put there necks on the line to provide it.  There is alwayssome sorta communication to reassure everyone that shit is gona be ok. As the man says "DEEP BREATHS AND EVERYONE CALM THE FUCK DOWN" :)

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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2014, 04:27:07 am »
I think sometimes people forget that this service is not owed to anyone. We should all be grateful that ppl put there necks on the line to provide it.  There is alwayssome sorta communication to reassure everyone that shit is gona be ok. As the man says "DEEP BREATHS AND EVERYONE CALM THE FUCK DOWN" :)

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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2014, 04:41:35 am »
"everyone calm the fuck down and breathe. In through the nose, out through the mouth people."  --  I have some technical expertise and much experience regarding this subject - it's okay to breath out through the nose too.....thanks Hux, glad to hear from you......i'm a believer...........cheers ;D
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2014, 04:57:15 am »
"If you want to get into the business of illegal markets on Tor, you have to be prepared for full scale cyberwarfare or you are not going to be able to protect your user base."

You know, i have no clue about any of this cyber-crap or what our SR admins and devs are doing to make any of this work - and i just wanna buy pot and acid and get high......thankyou thankyou thankyou.....I can't thank you enough.....cheers   ;D
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2014, 06:28:23 am »
"If you want to get into the business of illegal markets on Tor, you have to be prepared for full scale cyberwarfare or you are not going to be able to protect your user base."

You know, i have no clue about any of this cyber-crap or what our SR admins and devs are doing to make any of this work - and i just wanna buy pot and acid and get high......thankyou thankyou thankyou.....I can't thank you enough.....cheers   ;D

Some people have businesses to run, its all good that all you want to do is buy pot and acid and get high, but when vendors are not getting paid for it, when money is tied up in escrow, accounts can not be accessed, or upgraded it sucks that those that are working to provide your goods arent being compensated and are not getting much attention as far as resolving issues goes.. its a pretty shitty situation. I am not necessarily comforted by the message.. The "we are trying to do what no one has done before" has been said before, cant remember by who, maybe it was hux, but it is practically verbatim. cant remember if it was defcon or dpr2, or whatever.. guess it doesnt matter. we were just told in the mcdonalds analogy sticky that the dev team is basically ran by one person, unless I missed the gist of it because I was stoned, it sounded like all these problems were because this was a one man band, if that is the case why mention a dev team, just be like that one beast nigga we got on dev 24/7? It is so difficult to trust any of this, dont care about all the talk about we are in it for the cause, because id be in it just based off the commission involved, cant really believe you guys are rolling the dice on dick in the booty for the idea behind the market solely.. some of the mods maybe, like the overly nice ones that seem like they are left in the dark and benefit very little and have been posting less as of late, i could believe they are in it for the cause.. people getting commission, not so much =/

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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2014, 06:57:24 am »
Many thanks and much appreciated!

I think those who don't know what they're talking about should stick to themselves... they're not gunna take any advice or let us teach them how to run their show, I'm sure they have it down. I haven't lost faith in SR2 yet one bit, got some items today hehe.
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2014, 07:40:35 am »
I'm looking at Hux's post history. Even though he's not typing in caps, I feel like he is yelling at me and I'm in trouble.  If I met him in person, I'm sure he'd kick my ass and proceed to fuck my girlfriend, mom, and sister.
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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2014, 07:41:33 am »
I'm looking at Hux's post history. Even though he's not typing in caps, I feel like he is yelling at me and I'm in trouble.  If I met him in person, I'm sure he'd kick my ass and proceed to fuck my girlfriend, mom, and sister.

Hahaha. I'm sure he's just trying to look out for the community.
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Re: Everyone take a deep breath
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2014, 07:47:52 am »
SR is the site for the long run, the site for the future.  However, currently I believe Agora or Pandora is the site in the short term while this shit is sorted out.  I wish all good vendors moved to one of those marketplaces and the forums here were still used.  I bet 1 or 2 guys are absolutely busting their arse but it is too much work for them to do.  Vendor reg and user reg is still open?! Why?

There is no shame in closing shop for a month or so and all vendor/escrow/buyer problems are sorted.  Additional testing/security/improvments are done and it is reopened.  In the meantime another site is used.  As it is mostly FE and pgp should be used, security or lack thereof is less of an issue.  Hopefully a decent proportion will wait for SR and the rest will not overload the other sites too much.  Wishful thinking in part unfortunately.  If the tap isn't fully turned off for a while, it should at least be turned down to droplets.  Why are vendors reg and new users still open and masses of transactions gonig thru?  Money.

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Re: Everyone take a deep breath
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2014, 07:48:30 am »
I'm looking at Hux's post history. Even though he's not typing in caps, I feel like he is yelling at me and I'm in trouble.  If I met him in person, I'm sure he'd kick my ass and proceed to fuck my girlfriend, mom, and sister.

Hahaha. I'm sure he's just trying to look out for the community.

Pretty sure he just doxxed my mom and toilet cammed my condo.
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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2014, 07:50:40 am »
All I will say is this "Actions speak louder than words".

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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2014, 08:30:31 am »
If you want to get into the business of illegal markets on Tor, you have to be prepared for full scale cyberwarfare or you are not going to be able to protect your user base.

Nice to meet you Hux, thanks for your reassuring words.   

What I got out of Hux's detailed message was an overwhelming feeling of CONFIDENCE that SR 2.0 is being taken care of by highly COMPETENT and extremely gifted people who are  committed to this cause and to the community.    Folks, this crew isn't messing around.   When Hux says cyberwarfare is occuring, believe me, it's not coming from maladjusted teenage hackers in their basements....more likely from the top echeleons of our government and the EU/UK/Interpol.     SR 2.0 is here for the long haul, gang...let's all get on board.     Thanks Hux for the rallying cry.   It lifted my morale anyway!
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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2014, 08:54:19 am »
Hi Hux, nice to meet you and thanks for informing us. Looking forward to new updates :) cheers!

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« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2014, 09:21:40 am »
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« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2014, 09:41:41 am »
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Community,

we have not formally met before but that is not important right now. I am a part of the mysterious "dev team" people often talk about on the forum and I feel obliged to post an update on current situations coupled with a retort to some of the hooligans running loose.

First and foremost, progress is being made. We do not work on the server live, everything we do is tested extensively before it even sees an internet enabled device and then further scrutinized on a locked down testing server before being pushed into the live environment. Typically development of any feature can take up to a month from finishing up the code to release because of this process. This is inconvenient we understand but we are also the only market which has not been hacked yet for this reason and you can be sure people would be far more upset with us if we were negligent in our duties to protect the users.

Secondly, Defcon is not dead. Like me and the others he is hard at work and typically when one announcement is made, it is followed by a storm of further questions and wild theories which waste valuable time. This perhaps answers why the louder some people kick and cry for us to post, the less we actually do.

When developing a project in the circumstances of Silk Road, we are not merely fixing bugs or dealing with trivial usability problems. Silk Road has a team well beyond the competence of even many professional cohorts that work for three letter agencies and we all have something in common: pushing limits. The problems we face are not something a quick line of code will fix but require changes in the actual Tor network itself and until the next generation of hidden services are released we are having to make do. The fact of the situation is nobody has ever done what we are doing and so we must tread carefully into the unknown. Our recent contributions are for example feeding back information to the right people when we are attacked so such issues can be addressed not only by us but by Tor at large. Anyone who remembers the DDOS not so long ago may find there is odd timing that shortly after this researchers were tipped off to what is now known as the "Sniper attack" - now fixed at a network level so all may benefit on a safer network.

Some users have also taken the liberty to publicly complain of what they deem to be slow progress, then making suggestions such as "Fix the captcha". If you want to know the problems of Silk Road, it is nothing to do with the source code of the site actually, almost all the team work on various layer 3 and 4 (TCP/UDP/SCTP/IPv4) matters and another contingent work on various application layer problems. The sentiment we have poorly coded SR is based on perception only, Silk Road could better be described as a nuclear bunker when it comes to security and stability - it is the network itself which is crumbling (vendors can see this first hand by comparing performance between the public URL and vendor URL).

I have noticed there are others trying to rally an exodus of Silk Road too and move to the other markets as a form of protest. Those calling for such things please do not waste your breath here and just leave instead because frankly I do not care and neither do the management. You have put hope into other markets before, DPR2 made a high profile attack on Tor Market to prove how foolish some of your assumptions are and that was only a speck of effort from a single person in our team so imagine what the full force of our security detail could accomplish. If you want to get into the business of illegal markets on Tor, you have to be prepared for full scale cyberwarfare or you are not going to be able to protect your user base.



Now that part is over, a quick update.

Support: The support system has been rolled out already although we haven't patched it up yet to sync with your accounts. Moderators and market staff already have access to this support system and are working through your tickets as we speak, you will receive their responses as soon as the dev team green light the live patch. This means the moment we do go live, every support ticket will be answered and there will be little or no backlog anymore.

Lost password/PIN: As above, this will be rapidly worked through as soon as we patch up the system to the live server.

Escrow Funds: Same story different system. Once the release is pushed, everything will be running smoothly without a problem and we won't have this issue again.

Login Problems/CAPTCHA: We are aware of this and working on a solution now. I was asked not to reference specific times or days but just be patient as it won't be long.

One of the others will follow this post up with more information soon but until then - everyone calm the fuck down and breathe. In through the nose, out through the mouth people.
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Community,

we have not formally met before but that is not important right now. I am a part of the mysterious "dev team" people often talk about on the forum and I feel obliged to post an update on current situations coupled with a retort to some of the hooligans running loose.

First and foremost, progress is being made. We do not work on the server live, everything we do is tested extensively before it even sees an internet enabled device and then further scrutinized on a locked down testing server before being pushed into the live environment. Typically development of any feature can take up to a month from finishing up the code to release because of this process. This is inconvenient we understand but we are also the only market which has not been hacked yet for this reason and you can be sure people would be far more upset with us if we were negligent in our duties to protect the users.

Secondly, Defcon is not dead. Like me and the others he is hard at work and typically when one announcement is made, it is followed by a storm of further questions and wild theories which waste valuable time. This perhaps answers why the louder some people kick and cry for us to post, the less we actually do.

When developing a project in the circumstances of Silk Road, we are not merely fixing bugs or dealing with trivial usability problems. Silk Road has a team well beyond the competence of even many professional cohorts that work for three letter agencies and we all have something in common: pushing limits. The problems we face are not something a quick line of code will fix but require changes in the actual Tor network itself and until the next generation of hidden services are released we are having to make do. The fact of the situation is nobody has ever done what we are doing and so we must tread carefully into the unknown. Our recent contributions are for example feeding back information to the right people when we are attacked so such issues can be addressed not only by us but by Tor at large. Anyone who remembers the DDOS not so long ago may find there is odd timing that shortly after this researchers were tipped off to what is now known as the "Sniper attack" - now fixed at a network level so all may benefit on a safer network.

Some users have also taken the liberty to publicly complain of what they deem to be slow progress, then making suggestions such as "Fix the captcha". If you want to know the problems of Silk Road, it is nothing to do with the source code of the site actually, almost all the team work on various layer 3 and 4 (TCP/UDP/SCTP/IPv4) matters and another contingent work on various application layer problems. The sentiment we have poorly coded SR is based on perception only, Silk Road could better be described as a nuclear bunker when it comes to security and stability - it is the network itself which is crumbling (vendors can see this first hand by comparing performance between the public URL and vendor URL).

I have noticed there are others trying to rally an exodus of Silk Road too and move to the other markets as a form of protest. Those calling for such things please do not waste your breath here and just leave instead because frankly I do not care and neither do the management. You have put hope into other markets before, DPR2 made a high profile attack on Tor Market to prove how foolish some of your assumptions are and that was only a speck of effort from a single person in our team so imagine what the full force of our security detail could accomplish. If you want to get into the business of illegal markets on Tor, you have to be prepared for full scale cyberwarfare or you are not going to be able to protect your user base.

[hr]

Now that part is over, a quick update.

[b]Support:[/b] The support system has been rolled out already although we haven't patched it up yet to sync with your accounts. Moderators and market staff already have access to this support system and are working through your tickets as we speak, you will receive their responses as soon as the dev team green light the live patch. This means the moment we do go live, every support ticket will be answered and there will be little or no backlog anymore.

[b]Lost password/PIN:[/b] As above, this will be rapidly worked through as soon as we patch up the system to the live server.

[b]Escrow Funds:[/b] Same story different system. Once the release is pushed, everything will be running smoothly without a problem and we won't have this issue again.

[b]Login Problems/CAPTCHA:[/b] We are aware of this and working on a solution now. I was asked not to reference specific times or days but just be patient as it won't be long.

One of the others will follow this post up with more information soon but until then - everyone calm the fuck down and breathe. In through the nose, out through the mouth people.
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Re: Everyone take a deep breath
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2014, 10:02:41 am »
most whiners are people with too much time on their hands and dont understand the concept of decent hardwork - patients is a virtue

as a vendor i understand there are many behind the scene things that can really consume your time OPSEC bieng one of them which im confident is dealt with by proper talent for this market

i cant wait to see where we at a month down the line !


keep up your amazing revolutionary work !!!!!

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« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2014, 10:29:23 am »
lol, you are all sheeps.
the moment some mod/admin/dev team persona makes a lame statment you all start licking his ass without realizing his post is practically useless.
no new information, no USEFUL updates - just the typical "come down it's a hard job you guys"

Now I'm bound to get the "they don't owe you shit!!" YES they fuckin do, you all seem to forget its US that made SR what it is (with the exception of the first DPR who made it possible).
When we place orders they make money - don't you ever fuckin forget that, you can all claim they are here for glorious reasons such as "freedom" but in the end they are here for the money you fuckheads, just like I'm here for the drugs, no shame saying that.
there are 10K listing DESPITE the shitty unfunctional market and it's all casue we kept our faith, but I'm getting tired of it (along with many others).

No support, no AF, no resolution center, weird BTC rate, vendors can't vend, accounts get locked, scammers go wild, stupid captcha bug, ridiculous deposit and withdrawl times.

Think about it, this site is WAY off, they need to take it down and make sure it works PROPERLY but then they will lose money, wouldn't they? so that's not an option.

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« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2014, 10:31:20 am »
Thank you for the update Hux. +1
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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2014, 10:39:14 am »
thanks for the update. RESPECT <3
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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2014, 10:50:17 am »
Hey Hux! Nice to meet you! :) Its good to see someone with an actual brain instead of half the brain dead morons on here that just plainly bitch at you and the team, EnthusedUK is 110% behind you my brew and we all look forward to hearing from you again :)

Oh and don't listen to the bitches of Silk Road, the marketplace is running fine (obviously the issues) does it work? yes? am I happy? yes! So should all of you whingeing butt munches. Just be happy Hux actually spoke to us and is trying to make things better for EVERYONE :)

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« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2014, 10:56:35 am »
LOL! All that ass kissing and you got his name wrong! LoL!

I refuse to be one of these boot lickers with their vain attempts at curryin favor with some alleged higher ups. I'll believe it when I see it.

No mention of the Vendor Bond issue either. Not too impressive.

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« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2014, 11:23:13 am »
Wow, I'm impressed. Seriously, that statement actually gives me a lot of faith in you folks.
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« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2014, 11:31:19 am »
Thanks for taking the time to update us all.

I'm sure all you guys have rigorously planned every meticulous step (you're programmers after all...) so I have no idea why you would listen to anything said on the forums.

But heres my thoughts anyway - is it not worth maybe considering some short downtime? Absolutely no shame in it, like you guys said you're working on trying to run a cutting edge tor site, with no guidebooks. Im sure we can all make do for a week or so :)

As soon as you hit the tipping point when you make more progress than there are problems, everyone will forget about the early teething problems and this site will undoubtedly grow and grow. But until then, why not work more comfortably well within your limits?
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« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2014, 11:57:42 am »
it is a tuff pill to swallow for those of you losing money and customers and you have my sympathies - none of us are happy with the delays and pain

but the op is not spouting marketing bluster - maybe some damage limitation but it is not bluster

there is no point building castles in the sand because castles need rock hard foundations

the silkroad infrastructure is being carved out of the granite - dont be fooled by the slick sites hosted on a single server somewhere in the ukraine or wherever - they will work for a while and they will be ready quicker but their longevity will be severely limited in nearly all cases - they are simply not built to last - i think there may be one or two exceptions to the recent pattern of failed markets but only time will tell

you may get lucky and use those types of sites for 6 months without a glitch but in nearly all cases you will wake up one day and find the site has gone and your coins with it

in an ideal world silk road 2 would be developed then tested then brought online but the powers that be did not afford us that luxury - they did not give us a few months notice that they were going to pull the rug from under us

try to put yourself in the position of the staff - you have 80 hours of work to do on any given day and probably 15 hours to actually give - a shortcut taken now will very likely come back to bite - the smallest slip up on hosting or data leakage could spell disaster until the site is properly deployed and fully mobile location wise

for some of you the only answer will be to go elsewhere and then come back when the road is where you want it to be

i hope that the staff can get on the vendor account issues and work from there but it is not as simple as clicking a button - manual database operations are required to reinstate vendor privileges without losing data. if this were a commercial product the supplier would be telling you you are not supported and be looking to charge a fortune in bespoke support and consultancy to manually work on the database.

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« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2014, 01:20:41 pm »
Thanks for the update.

I sincerely hope all of the current market issues are worked out soon for everyone involved.

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« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2014, 01:53:16 pm »
Understood, have been trying to keep the peace of the forums lately and fight back a little against the incredible negativity and pessimitic attitudes.

This thread is appreciated.
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« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2014, 03:21:02 pm »
I have -0,494 funds in my account why??? please help support!!!

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« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2014, 03:42:19 pm »
why wont the captcha work, I cant log into marketplace, anyone else having this problem ?
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« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2014, 03:54:37 pm »
Thanks for the update and nice to meet you Hux
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« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2014, 04:06:50 pm »
defcon/DPR2/Hux are all the same person

you guys are so damn fucking dumb

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« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2014, 04:16:58 pm »
Ive said this before, but I'll post it again.


You can either:

1.) Wait patiently, like everyone else does; OR
2.) Wait like everyone does, but in a pessimistic/annoying manner.

Either way, short of leaving the marketplace, you're still going to have to wait...JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

Stop complaining. They are working. If you want to go elsewhere in the meantime, then by all means.

You are not obligated to do business here if you believe it is too slow/expensive/incompetent. And if you business is failing because you put all your faith in one market, then that is your own fault. Not the market's.

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Re: Everyone take a deep breath
« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2014, 04:42:27 pm »
Thanks for the update and do not distract yourselves by ungrateful people complaining about everything :) You are doing a great job!
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Re: Everyone take a deep breath
« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2014, 04:53:44 pm »
Stop sending your money to SR. That's how.
If you sentt so much money to SR wallet that you are now financially strapped, then you didnt have enough to send to SR to begin with and should have been wiser about it.

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« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2014, 04:55:40 pm »
Stop sending your money to SR. That's how.
If you sentt so much money to SR wallet that you are now financially strapped, then you didnt have enough to send to SR to begin with and should have been wiser about it.

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« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2014, 05:24:30 pm »
just sort this fucking negative balance out. its unacceptable.


Yes, PLEASE!

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« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2014, 05:25:32 pm »
just sort this fucking negative balance out. its unacceptable.


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« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2014, 05:28:46 pm »
What about those out-of-escrow listings?
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« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2014, 05:33:54 pm »
Of all of the issues the lack of auto-finalize is the only one that is making me want to leave the marketplace.

A market where I don't get the money for my sales is one I must leave and take my sales to another market.

It must be realized that vendors need to be paid for what they have sold right? This feature was promised to us over a week ago.
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Re: Everyone take a deep breath
« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2014, 05:36:01 pm »
Of all of the issues the lack of auto-finalize is the only one that is making me want to leave the marketplace.

A market where I don't get the money for my sales is one I must leave and take my sales to another market.

It must be realized that vendors need to be paid for what they have sold right? This feature was promised to us over a week ago.

Yes lack of auto finalize is really hitting me now.
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« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2014, 06:14:28 pm »
Of all of the issues the lack of auto-finalize is the only one that is making me want to leave the marketplace.

A market where I don't get the money for my sales is one I must leave and take my sales to another market.

It must be realized that vendors need to be paid for what they have sold right? This feature was promised to us over a week ago.

+1 Enabling this will calm a lot of worry. I know it has to be tested, but there's no way for me to sell product if I can't buy more. This has to hurry up.
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Re: Everyone take a deep breath
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2014, 07:35:10 pm »
Stop sending your money to SR. That's how.
If you sentt so much money to SR wallet that you are now financially strapped, then you didnt have enough to send to SR to begin with and should have been wiser about it.

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Re: Everyone take a deep breath
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2014, 07:35:33 pm »
nice to meet you Hux and thanks for the updates and insights.  love this community despite the naysayers.

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« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2014, 07:43:11 pm »
I've been here since fucking day one. I have never seen arse licking on this level.  You silly bastards should hand your heads in shame, you fucking weasels.

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« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2014, 07:46:39 pm »
Thanks for the update Hux. I'm sure you'll get there in the end . . . meanwhile people need to chill, SR doesn't own anything to anybody, someone don't like it here , just head out elsewhere... 

I do understand missing auto-finalize can get to vendors though, but I do believe the staff are working even right now getting all these promised features functioning again in the market...  Resolution center is soon here, which should mean that auto-finalize will be also enabled after all the complaints are in ...
 
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Re: Everyone take a deep breath
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2014, 08:39:07 pm »
Honestly, I could care less about all of the listed issues. Even the annoying CAPTCHA loop.

What is needed is Auto-Finalize. This one missing vital feature is what has a lot of my vendor buddies marketing on other sites, not by choice, but to ensure payment.It is also what's preventing me from vending.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love SR2 and wouldn't vend anywhere else, but no Auto-Finalize hurts the honest people who do not require FE and believe in escrow.

I'm hoping that it's implemented soon.

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« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2014, 09:47:02 pm »
Hey Hux
Pleased to meet you lol anyhow glad the site is so secure so hope what happened last time wont again as we all lost $ to those feds Cu*ts
I prefer SR to all markets & stuck with SR1 except 1 time had to use BMR so knew it was legit the time i was on SR1- 1yr,
you guys don't seem like money grabber's, Some might say different with % & scammers getting away with it for months, but
you are all for believe in free market & all other things with time i think we will see the best ship ever "fingers crossed"
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« Reply #60 on: January 24, 2014, 09:48:22 pm »
You know SteXo you're the dumbest smart ass I know. You roll out masquerading as this Defcon and expect us to swallow it, then this Hux clown ! Do you honestly believe that people are buying this bullshit? Get a grip because you have lost fucking control. FFS bring back Ross.
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« Reply #61 on: January 24, 2014, 10:29:47 pm »
defcon/DPR2/Hux are all the same person

you guys are so damn fucking dumb

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« Reply #62 on: January 25, 2014, 02:48:05 am »
I'm sure all you guys have rigorously planned every meticulous step (you're programmers after all...) so I have no idea why you would listen to anything said on the forums.


Rigorous and meticulous? We do not know who they are, they could be obese 16 year olds that sound like cartman, sit around in their boxers all day eating cereal, and debating whether they are going to eat more or work on the site for a few mins..

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« Reply #63 on: January 25, 2014, 02:49:36 am »
Thank You for the update. I know myself and many others appreciate all of the staff's effort  and hard work to protect us on SR.
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« Reply #64 on: January 25, 2014, 06:03:30 am »
Thanks for the update
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« Reply #65 on: January 25, 2014, 02:36:25 pm »
yes, thanks for all the hard work with the skeleton crew. And auto finalize is a good thing. I have one in escrow from december 19

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« Reply #66 on: January 25, 2014, 02:39:18 pm »
Everyone take a deep breath, the FBI's nerds are busy rigging SR2 with exploits to catch you all out.

Nothing to be seen here, move along. LOL

(only half joking - seriously - you guys are so busy you can't ban a few scammers?)

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« Reply #67 on: January 25, 2014, 02:56:21 pm »
I sure hope this auto-finalized will be implemented soon, I sure would hate to see some of my favorite vendors disappear to somewhere else and me having to follow behind in order to still do business. I've read the thread and I understand the situation I'm guessing the "Escrow funds" update will cover this? I just feel so much for the vendors with having their money held up when they're working so hard and risking so much to provide for the people, especially since this wouldn't even be a problem if there weren't scamming and dishonest customers.

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« Reply #68 on: January 25, 2014, 09:06:02 pm »
I'm feeling a bit frustrated but I may be a fool as I believe the line about doing things carefully to keep everyone as safe as possible.

SR doesn't have 500 people working on the technical stuff and if it did we would end up busted.

Since the start of this month we have all seen the number of listings multiply several times over and quite clearly there has been a huge amount of business going on.

I might dabble on another market short term if I can't get on this one. But that would just be for as long as it takes to upgrade things here.

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« Reply #69 on: January 25, 2014, 09:15:06 pm »
I believe the line about doing things carefully to keep everyone as safe as possible.



I also do .How long I will is a different story :)

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« Reply #70 on: January 25, 2014, 09:16:01 pm »
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Anyone claiming the bugs are killing off SR business, you have no evidence for your claims.

However, from what I can see on the sales data, there has been a 30% rise in business this week over last week, a rate which has been maintained for some time now excluding peaks (ie after the christmas break and post-DDOS week).
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« Reply #71 on: January 25, 2014, 09:27:36 pm »
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Anyone claiming the bugs are killing off SR business, you have no evidence for your claims.

However, from what I can see on the sales data, there has been a 30% rise in business this week over last week, a rate which has been maintained for some time now excluding peaks (ie after the christmas break and post-DDOS week).
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honestly are you proud of your post?do you really think those are appropriate words at this present time?

how about using that money from your BOOMING succesfull entreprise  to compensate all the poor users getting scammed out of your scamming paradise??

this place is fucked,that s not the SR it used to be ,I bet these greedy motherfuckers will pull a sheep when their pocket are full enough.





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« Reply #72 on: January 25, 2014, 09:32:44 pm »
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However, from what I can see on the sales data, there has been a 30% rise in business this week over last week, a rate which has been maintained for some time now excluding peaks (ie after the christmas break and post-DDOS week).
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honestly are you proud of your post?do you really think those are appropriate words at this present time?

how about using that money from your BOOMING succesfull entreprise  to compensate all the poor users getting scammed out of your scamming paradise??

this place is fucked,that s not the SR it used to be ,I bet these greedy motherfuckers will pull a sheep when their pocket are full enough.

Grow up for fuck sake, they are not responsible coz you got fucked, SR is just a platform for people to use, what people do is up to them, if you cant take that just go and stop putting money in. Its the same as it was, when people got ripped on the old SR no one came and put a plaster on your knee.
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« Reply #73 on: January 25, 2014, 09:38:10 pm »
This place is no different than the last SR. That forum was full of whinging cunts as well. Not every one, half the people get it and they are sound, love'em but the crying babies.

If you dont like it fuck off no one is asking you to be here.
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« Reply #74 on: January 25, 2014, 09:47:33 pm »
how about using that money from your BOOMING succesfull entreprise  to compensate all the poor users getting scammed out of your scamming paradise??

Very few users get scammed if you must know, the ones who do are like yourself who kick and scream for attention so are overly represented. To add, only a small minority of transactions do not finalize but since they build up it gives false impression there are many so you are wrong on the idea that we're just building our funds up too. I can be here all day, I work here and waiting on something to reach my department of development so argue with me all you want because I'm getting paid for it anyway. Alternatively you could do something constructive or just go to another market and not waste your time here since you hate it so much.
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« Reply #75 on: January 25, 2014, 09:55:03 pm »
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honestly are you proud of your post?do you really think those are appropriate words at this present time?

how about using that money from your BOOMING succesfull entreprise  to compensate all the poor users getting scammed out of your scamming paradise??

this place is fucked,that s not the SR it used to be ,I bet these greedy motherfuckers will pull a sheep when their pocket are full enough.

Don't like it? Fuck off somewhere else.

I seriously don't know what people want from you, Hux. You come on here to try and explain whats going on behind the scenes, and all you get is bitter posts from people who have been scammed.

This is a Darknet market, people - selling illegals, and you're suprised that there are people out there willing to scam you?! How very dare they! There is always going to be a risk, always has been, people saying that there were no scammers on SR1, you're living in denial. It's work in progress, read the fucking homepage!


You've got an online market where safely buy things that society deems dangerous, do your research with vendors and you're fine. I've never been burned (apart from when SR1 went down i lost coins)

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« Reply #76 on: January 25, 2014, 10:05:59 pm »
I got carried away then for a minute. Its bad when you lose money but learn and adapt to the market or theres no place for you in it.
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« Reply #77 on: January 25, 2014, 10:06:50 pm »
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Anyone claiming the bugs are killing off SR business, you have no evidence for your claims.

However, from what I can see on the sales data, there has been a 30% rise in business this week over last week, a rate which has been maintained for some time now excluding peaks (ie after the christmas break and post-DDOS week).
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honestly are you proud of your post?do you really think those are appropriate words at this present time?

how about using that money from your BOOMING succesfull entreprise  to compensate all the poor users getting scammed out of your scamming paradise??

this place is fucked,that s not the SR it used to be ,I bet these greedy motherfuckers will pull a sheep when their pocket are full enough.

Grow up for fuck sake, they are not responsible coz you got fucked, SR is just a platform for people to use, what people do is up to them, if you cant take that just go and stop putting money in. Its the same as it was, when people got ripped on the old SR no one came and put a plaster on your knee.

you obviously are missing  the point,like most of you arse licker licking blindly.

who said I ve been scammed?who said I ve deposited money in there?who said I m a drug user?

Hux/DPR2/Defcon s post is just plain arrogant,
people have their money held up for weeks because of negatives balance/lack of support.
vendors aren t getting paid because of AF disabled.
sellers have their vendors privileges revoked and most of them will have a hard time feeding their family this month.

And all this guy have to say is  bugs have no repercussions on our buisness,so basically this means if you have a bug then fuck off.

DPR1 was never talking about anything related to money,he was clearly here to strive for the freedom of the people and would have never accepted that his users had these issues for such a long period of time.
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« Reply #78 on: January 25, 2014, 10:44:32 pm »
If you dont put money in and your not a drug user what are you doing here and what do you have to complain about? SR1 went down many times, sometimes for long periods and most of the time no one knew what was going on. 'Way of the road Bubbs'

To be honest I never even read all of HUX's post, I dont need to coz its the same as it ever was. Problems arise and they try to fix them. I wont lie Im grateful for the platform. 
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« Reply #79 on: January 25, 2014, 11:01:53 pm »
Ye you're right illegal flowers. I was just talking in general. I tend to rant about stuff then regret being so harsh.
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« Reply #80 on: January 25, 2014, 11:20:49 pm »
If you dont put money in and your not a drug user what are you doing here and what do you have to complain about?

have you ever felt for someone else?

 you self-centered heartless licker.


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« Reply #81 on: January 25, 2014, 11:27:43 pm »
If you dont put money in and your not a drug user what are you doing here and what do you have to complain about?

have you ever felt for someone else?

 you self-centered heartless licker.

I have. Just not you or the other whingers on the forum.
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« Reply #82 on: January 25, 2014, 11:33:00 pm »
If you dont put money in and your not a drug user what are you doing here and what do you have to complain about?

have you ever felt for someone else?

 you self-centered heartless licker.

I have. Just not you or the other whingers on the forum.

what is that supposed to mean? that s some poor argumentation right there.

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« Reply #83 on: January 25, 2014, 11:37:31 pm »
Theres no point us arguing about it. There are problems and people get unhappy about them, the forum is the place for people to talk about them. Just forget it.
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« Reply #84 on: January 25, 2014, 11:41:53 pm »
Theres no point us arguing about it. There are problems and people get unhappy about them, the forum is the place for people to talk about them. Just forget it.

thanks for having wasted my time then 

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« Reply #85 on: January 26, 2014, 01:06:03 am »
Lmao I havent been able to use SR2 yet because of the bs thats happening. I want to, but wont because I dont want to get fucked :)

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« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2014, 01:43:36 am »
Theres no point us arguing about it. There are problems and people get unhappy about them, the forum is the place for people to talk about them. Just forget it.

thanks for having wasted my time then

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« Reply #87 on: January 26, 2014, 02:04:33 am »
Hello Hux. Nice to meet you. Thank You for the information and update on the situation. My hat off to you and the rest of the Silk Road Team!
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« Reply #88 on: January 26, 2014, 02:06:33 am »
how about using that money from your BOOMING succesfull entreprise  to compensate all the poor users getting scammed out of your scamming paradise??

Very few users get scammed if you must know, the ones who do are like yourself who kick and scream for attention so are overly represented. To add, only a small minority of transactions do not finalize but since they build up it gives false impression there are many so you are wrong on the idea that we're just building our funds up too. I can be here all day, I work here and waiting on something to reach my department of development so argue with me all you want because I'm getting paid for it anyway. Alternatively you could do something constructive or just go to another market and not waste your time here since you hate it so much.

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« Reply #89 on: January 26, 2014, 05:10:54 am »
Sad to see that some of my go-to's are questioning their stay here due to the lack of AF.

I understand that there is a developmental process that this organization has to go through to make sure that the day to day operations are not affected and that the site remains functional while putting off smaller updates (such as the captcha issue).  I do not understand, though, NOT prioritizing something like AF. I don't have the technical knowledge to critique the devs or anything like that, but damn ONE fix and it solves a WHOLE lot of worry (not to mention it gives the vendors the money they rightfully deserve)

Hopefully we get an ETA on AF soon.
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« Reply #90 on: January 26, 2014, 10:00:37 am »
Sad to see that some of my go-to's are questioning their stay here due to the lack of AF.

I understand that there is a developmental process that this organization has to go through to make sure that the day to day operations are not affected and that the site remains functional while putting off smaller updates (such as the captcha issue).  I do not understand, though, NOT prioritizing something like AF. I don't have the technical knowledge to critique the devs or anything like that, but damn ONE fix and it solves a WHOLE lot of worry (not to mention it gives the vendors the money they rightfully deserve)

Hopefully we get an ETA on AF soon.

So whats the problem with AF? The way I understood it was autofinalize was turned off because the disputes over transactions could not be dealt with by support. A lot of people were worrying that as they were getting no response from support over disputes, when the time runs out their money is sent automatically. Is this still the same issue or is it something else now?
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« Reply #91 on: January 26, 2014, 11:14:32 am »
Specific questions are pretty much just ignored.

No worries, I was asking flux, its pretty early and it was just idle curiosity, doesnt really matter.
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« Reply #92 on: January 26, 2014, 01:44:23 pm »
I don't know how you expect us to have faith in your "development" abilities...

You can't even implement a working captcha...

Alarm bells are ringing.

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« Reply #93 on: January 26, 2014, 02:01:50 pm »
I don't know how you expect us to have faith in your "development" abilities...

You can't even implement a working captcha...

Alarm bells are ringing.

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« Reply #94 on: January 26, 2014, 03:07:00 pm »
I don't know how you expect us to have faith in your "development" abilities...

You can't even implement a working captcha...

Alarm bells are ringing.

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« Reply #95 on: January 26, 2014, 08:42:19 pm »
People, ALWAYS stay alert.

about 8 years ago when I was held at gunpoint, shot and pistol whipped and had a 25% chance of a full recovery, that's ONE lesson I learned. A-L-W-A-Y-S be aware, and that includes being paranoid (to some extent.)

Do I trust SR staff? Of course not. I HOPE that they honor their word and fix the stuff going on. That's how everyone should be handling all these situations.

I'm not sure why AF was turned off, but to put in perspective...say you were a vendor who sent out 100, 200 parcels. Let's just say 100% of the people received their packages. Only 40% or so will finalizing willingly. Would YOU be comfortable sending out 60% of your product to only have your money 'sitting' in escrow with no ETA on when you can get YOUR money that you deserve?

That's the biggest beef I've seen around here, and it's a well formed beef. Staff needs to implement this ASAP.

I also hear that commission sales are being fudged. MANY vendors are told they are being charges certain %'s and then charged a HIGHER % without being told.

There are A LOT of red flags, but there is no 'smoking-gun' so to speak that would indicate that staff has intentions of fucking over the community. It IS possible, but we need to hold out hope that this all will be fixed and SR becomes the site we all want it to be.
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« Reply #96 on: January 26, 2014, 08:42:55 pm »
the louder some people kick and cry for us to post, the less we actually do.

what are you, like 12 years old or something. of course people are kicking and crying for you to post. because the market is going to shit, everyone's getting fucked off and you guys aren't telling us anything, which creates FUD more than anything. do you understand that as an online marketplace you have a duty and commitment to your users? we pay 8% of everything we spend here to you. its not too much to expect a decent working marketplace that won't lock us out, lock up our coin and ruin our vendors so they end up going out of fucking business while waiting for shit to get sorted.

this is exactly the more reason for you to be taking the odd 5 fucking minutes to let us know what's going on or at least let us know you're doing something about it. FFS man.

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« Reply #97 on: January 26, 2014, 11:30:12 pm »
This is why nothing is HAPPENING:


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« Reply #98 on: January 27, 2014, 02:47:26 am »
… In the old Ross U/DPR days he posted approx 20 'alternative' .onion URL's incase the 'site went down' .

Weren't those forum addresses?

I'm not sure why AF was turned off…

Soon after it was implemented a number of people, me among them, pointed out that buyers with problems would automatically lose money if there were no active support structure to handle disputes. The AF was disabled soon after these concerns were raised.

Judging from Hux's statement, the customer-facing resolution centre should soon be with us so I'd expect AF to be reenabled along with it.
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« Reply #99 on: January 27, 2014, 03:38:07 am »
yeaa now everyone is finally taking a deep breath
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« Reply #100 on: January 27, 2014, 12:20:45 pm »
patience is a virtue. people would learn a few life lessons by holding their tongue, meditating on whats good in their lives and trying to fill each day with a single act of kindness.

jumping up and down like an impatient, demanding child gets you nowhere.

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« Reply #101 on: January 27, 2014, 07:42:55 pm »
And for how long you expect us to wait?!!... Until you ran off with all our money?!...Ha!
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« Reply #102 on: January 27, 2014, 09:58:08 pm »
Hey can we get an applause for the team? Everyone is so fast to throw dirt but when it comes to good news not even half of you react happy to it. Im sure they have been working their asses off to the maximum for everyone. Where's the thank you?


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« Reply #103 on: January 28, 2014, 12:25:33 am »
I'm really sorry, but I don't see anything improving. Since weeks I can't even login to SR. Yeah great!
So sorry for the people who are literally fighting for their dough!

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« Reply #104 on: January 28, 2014, 12:34:58 am »
I'm really sorry, but I don't see anything improving. Since weeks I can't even login to SR. Yeah great!
So sorry for the people who are literally fighting for their dough!
you cant even log in?
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« Reply #105 on: January 28, 2014, 06:29:15 am »
Yet negative balance hasn't been fixed, if you aren't fixing it in the next few days I want my btc back now please.

I have around 0.22 sitting in my account I cannot spend, please respond I want my money.

BTW my balance has been negative since january 9th so sort this out asap I need the money back.
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« Reply #106 on: January 28, 2014, 04:24:59 pm »
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« Reply #107 on: January 28, 2014, 04:39:49 pm »
damn with the login problems, is a total headache but thank you so much to all staff, without you guys we can't do nice things ;)

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« Reply #108 on: January 28, 2014, 10:05:20 pm »
On behalf of the mature SR1 users who understand that things take time and whining solves nothing, I would like to thank Hux for keeping us updated and in high spirits. Just as the first rockets ever built had to go through testing, modification, and failures, eventually we landed on the moon. Our rockets are young here at the road, and may experience difficulties from time to time. Thanks for reminding us all that things will get better. +1
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« Reply #109 on: January 28, 2014, 10:09:39 pm »
Yet negative balance hasn't been fixed, if you aren't fixing it in the next few days I want my btc back now please.

I have around 0.22 sitting in my account I cannot spend, please respond I want my money.

BTW my balance has been negative since january 9th so sort this out asap I need the money back.
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« Reply #110 on: January 29, 2014, 02:54:45 am »
patience is a virtue. people would learn a few life lessons by holding their tongue, meditating on whats good in their lives and trying to fill each day with a single act of kindness.

jumping up and down like an impatient, demanding child gets you nowhere.

love to the crew =]

You know what else would be a pretty cool virtue.... letting people know why their lively hoods.. there way of life are being totally fucked over with no updates in days at a time... then when there is an update its to say that we are inpatient and they cant update every 10 minutes... 1 update a day would be enough, but instead when i put a post up with alternative market sites where I am acutally aloud to sell my product... the url's are taken down and marked as spam within minutes.. all I want is to sell my product, surely thats not so much to ask in a market place where the whole fucking point is to sell product?
It's FINALLY here you guys!!! A god dam decent alternative to this fucking joke SR2... UTOPIA

It has just opened its doors today, the 3rd day of February in the year 2014

UTOPIA
Please PM me for the URL as SR marks it as spam.. which is ironic considering the mess this place is in :)

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« Reply #111 on: January 29, 2014, 06:50:13 pm »
I have negative funds the 3rd time. Nobody respond me to my messages. This is just nervy.

My account shows -1,670... there was+ funds in it.

I was going to trans coins to my wallet before but then I did not... this is getting pretty nervy! How should I trust SR2 if u steal once a day my coins???

Maybe best way is biz outside those markets!
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« Reply #112 on: January 30, 2014, 04:02:46 am »
Thanks for your update +1
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« Reply #113 on: January 30, 2014, 04:06:24 am »
Loving the site only problem is no support

have 4 succesful transactions since the whole little burp in system during x  mas  only one issue with SR system
and really my fualt for not understanding pgp before using market  but have learned big time from that mistake
this is great idea and great market they cannot stop all of us there are too many roaders and where growing 

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« Reply #114 on: February 01, 2014, 04:10:45 am »
Complainers do not belong here in the first place.   Keep it up dev team.  everything the road has accomplished so far is a landmark!  Ideas never die!
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« Reply #115 on: February 01, 2014, 08:29:34 am »
As many of you are aware, A LOT of Vendors have lost their vending privileges for almost 3 weeks now... we are proud supporters of SR and hate to go elsewhere but we feel this is the only option left to us at the moment. So we are now in the process of providing an alternative marketplace for customers to access our products, We are in no way trying to boycott SR, and are sure the DEV's are doing everything in their power to get our account back online ASAP but this is our job and we need an income.

We are now up and running on AGORA with the same name "TheWhiteShadow" and the same pgp, we hope to see you there!

We will continue selling on SR once our account becomes active again but in the mean time we are happy to be able to once again earn an income and provide you all with a place to buy cheap good quality NBOME.

Much Love and sorry for the fuck around the last few weeks <3

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« Reply #116 on: February 01, 2014, 06:17:58 pm »
SR 2.0 be fixed soon.

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« Reply #117 on: February 02, 2014, 02:17:18 am »
Just PM us for the link to the ADORA site as the mods seem to have mistakenly redacted the url for :(
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« Reply #118 on: February 02, 2014, 03:06:39 am »
HOLD FAST YE VARMITS,
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And make sure to note the time/date/amount of BTC affected by SR wallet bug.
That's what I'm doing.

So far it's been 4 days since I submitted a support ticket on SR, no response. I don't really expect one as they're probably snowed under.

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« Reply #119 on: February 02, 2014, 09:59:27 pm »
Thanks for the update. 

As a buyer, I have made 2 purchases and have been extremely happy with everything except not being able to edit feedback.

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« Reply #120 on: February 03, 2014, 01:45:53 pm »
  You people make me lol. 

   The more the administration feeds you lines of complete bullshit, the more you lap it up.   This truly is a site full of imbeciles and lemmings.  These people are going to leave with your BTC's.  There's no other explanation considering they aren't even competent enough to fix a captcha.  I learned how to do that in the first month of Computer Science in high school for fuck sake. 

   I know....I know.....they're all working on security issues LMAO.   Security of WHAT?  This isn't some movie crap where there's a hacker on one end and some dev on the other furiously typing away writing code to fuck eachother over. 

  What we have with this new crew are a bunch of self-absorbed neophytes who are in way over their heads, but they're so narcissistic that they can't bear to see the truth so they continue to blame everything and everyone besides themselves for sinking this ship.....and it will sink.

  There are only two explanations as to why there's no updates on anything yet.

   First....this place is run solely by LE.   By not allowing AF it creates a solid link between a buyer and vendor than can never be broken.  This is evidence.  It also doesn't allow for a criminal enterprise to profit from an LE investigation in progress which is standard proceedure.   All of those vendors who have buyers who haven't finalized....at least one of those is from LE.  GAURANTEED.    If this site was so concerned about security, AF would be the first thing implemented because once a buy is finalized, coins can be tumbled and addresses changed to obscure the link between vendors and buyers.  THINK PEOPLE!!!

  Second option is that the current team are biding their time to run with your BTC's.  Yeah....they returned some coins after the holiday break, but that's SOP for cons.  A con with patience will always get far more.  They have you tool sheds eating out of the palms of their hands and you won't even see it coming. 

  How many excuses will you people take before you realize you're dealing with LE or a bunch of hacks who couldn't even run a local McDonalds? 
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« Reply #121 on: February 04, 2014, 11:11:18 am »
  You people make me lol. 

   The more the administration feeds you lines of complete bullshit, the more you lap it up.   This truly is a site full of imbeciles and lemmings.  These people are going to leave with your BTC's.  There's no other explanation considering they aren't even competent enough to fix a captcha.  I learned how to do that in the first month of Computer Science in high school for fuck sake. 

   I know....I know.....they're all working on security issues LMAO.   Security of WHAT?  This isn't some movie crap where there's a hacker on one end and some dev on the other furiously typing away writing code to fuck eachother over. 

  What we have with this new crew are a bunch of self-absorbed neophytes who are in way over their heads, but they're so narcissistic that they can't bear to see the truth so they continue to blame everything and everyone besides themselves for sinking this ship.....and it will sink.

  There are only two explanations as to why there's no updates on anything yet.

   First....this place is run solely by LE.   By not allowing AF it creates a solid link between a buyer and vendor than can never be broken.  This is evidence.  It also doesn't allow for a criminal enterprise to profit from an LE investigation in progress which is standard proceedure.   All of those vendors who have buyers who haven't finalized....at least one of those is from LE.  GAURANTEED.    If this site was so concerned about security, AF would be the first thing implemented because once a buy is finalized, coins can be tumbled and addresses changed to obscure the link between vendors and buyers.  THINK PEOPLE!!!

  Second option is that the current team are biding their time to run with your BTC's.  Yeah....they returned some coins after the holiday break, but that's SOP for cons.  A con with patience will always get far more.  They have you tool sheds eating out of the palms of their hands and you won't even see it coming. 

  How many excuses will you people take before you realize you're dealing with LE or a bunch of hacks who couldn't even run a local McDonalds?

first off, i have nothing against lockneck monsters, no matter what they are after

but i do have to point out a flaw in this dudes argument.. in my opinion he simply does not give SR enough credit of the fuckery they have gotten themselves into... i couldve made at least another 3 paragraphs explaining how they rape people on a daily basis and rape is an embarrasing thing which you dont want your family to know about, which is why i think alot of people are not comming forward... I am a preist who is currently in jail for obvious reasons... and what SR is dont to people sickens me to the very core of my soul!

anyway utopia, go to a fun loving place called utopia and let us begin anew.. away from this fuckery of a rape fest
Please stop being greedy and shut this place down until at least some of the major critical issues are fixed.... Right now you are putting every body at a financial and security risk.

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« Reply #122 on: February 04, 2014, 03:13:34 pm »
Yeah everyone let's go to the scammer run sites and lose our money yeah!


no.


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« Reply #123 on: February 05, 2014, 03:00:36 am »
Yeah everyone let's go to the scammer run sites and lose our money yeah!


no.


The trolls are hungry.

Hey... I mean sure it diffidently looks like SR is the latest scamming site, but no need to skip to such hasty conclusions so soon my friend.. give them a chance for petes sake!
Please stop being greedy and shut this place down until at least some of the major critical issues are fixed.... Right now you are putting every body at a financial and security risk.

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« Reply #124 on: February 05, 2014, 10:25:29 am »
Yeah everyone let's go to the scammer run sites and lose our money yeah!


no.


The trolls are hungry.

Hey... I mean sure it diffidently looks like SR is the latest scamming site, but no need to skip to such hasty conclusions so soon my friend.. give them a chance for petes sake!

Here, here. They must be snowed under - and for good reason. All of us get twitchy sometimes, but its worth having a little faith, their track record is good :)
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« Reply #125 on: February 05, 2014, 10:50:20 am »
u tell him nordicshrooms!
Please stop being greedy and shut this place down until at least some of the major critical issues are fixed.... Right now you are putting every body at a financial and security risk.

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« Reply #126 on: February 05, 2014, 01:36:22 pm »
  You people make me lol. 

   The more the administration feeds you lines of complete bullshit, the more you lap it up.   This truly is a site full of imbeciles and lemmings.  These people are going to leave with your BTC's.  There's no other explanation considering they aren't even competent enough to fix a captcha.  I learned how to do that in the first month of Computer Science in high school for fuck sake. 

   I know....I know.....they're all working on security issues LMAO.   Security of WHAT?  This isn't some movie crap where there's a hacker on one end and some dev on the other furiously typing away writing code to fuck eachother over. 

  What we have with this new crew are a bunch of self-absorbed neophytes who are in way over their heads, but they're so narcissistic that they can't bear to see the truth so they continue to blame everything and everyone besides themselves for sinking this ship.....and it will sink.

  There are only two explanations as to why there's no updates on anything yet.

   First....this place is run solely by LE.   By not allowing AF it creates a solid link between a buyer and vendor than can never be broken.  This is evidence.  It also doesn't allow for a criminal enterprise to profit from an LE investigation in progress which is standard proceedure.   All of those vendors who have buyers who haven't finalized....at least one of those is from LE.  GAURANTEED.    If this site was so concerned about security, AF would be the first thing implemented because once a buy is finalized, coins can be tumbled and addresses changed to obscure the link between vendors and buyers.  THINK PEOPLE!!!

  Second option is that the current team are biding their time to run with your BTC's.  Yeah....they returned some coins after the holiday break, but that's SOP for cons.  A con with patience will always get far more.  They have you tool sheds eating out of the palms of their hands and you won't even see it coming. 

  How many excuses will you people take before you realize you're dealing with LE or a bunch of hacks who couldn't even run a local McDonalds?

+1 for a good post. Interesting to read, well written and full of distinct possibilities.

The forum seems to be suffering as the old school are keeping their heads down and most posts are by newbies. There is a dearth of informative, well thought out posts with solid conclusions drawn from the facts (as we see them). Not saying Entrepreniggeur (great name btw) is right, but he's making a good point.



What am I trying to get at? The SilkRoad is losing it's trust. Sure most of the people are buying good shit from most of the vendors but the bad shit isn't being dealt with and it's leaving a bad taste.

Some vendors are bending over backwards to try and stay with the Road yet their only reward for loyality is being bent forwards and shafted it seems.


These updates are all well and good but until things are seen to be working on the main site, and the support facility is up and running, the admin and Defcon and Dev team may as well be posting " blah blahblahblah blah"


Like most people I have no idea how long/hard it is to write/fix a website like SilkRoad, and if indeed they are creating a bullet proof black market then OF COURSE it's worth the wait and the agony because there are literally billions of  dollars to be made and one of the biggest FUCK YOUs to the Government/New WOrld Order ever. Great stuff.

At the end of the day, if this is genuine and this isn't an LE ship, or a scam then think how awe inspiringly incredible it's going to be. A hack proof, FBI proof SilkRoad.

I would imagine the Dev team would be better off just switching the road off for two weeks to speed up the updates, but maybe that's not how things work, maybe it maes no difference if the site is up or down. Maybe there is too much money to be made, it's not economically viable.

Fuck knows, too many question.


TL;DR

Wait and see, be safe, vend elsewhere until this shit is fixed, stay frosty and for the love of God please write some DECENT posts.

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« Reply #127 on: February 05, 2014, 04:02:29 pm »
  You people make me lol. 

   The more the administration feeds you lines of complete bullshit, the more you lap it up.   This truly is a site full of imbeciles and lemmings.  These people are going to leave with your BTC's.  There's no other explanation considering they aren't even competent enough to fix a captcha.  I learned how to do that in the first month of Computer Science in high school for fuck sake. 

   I know....I know.....they're all working on security issues LMAO.   Security of WHAT?  This isn't some movie crap where there's a hacker on one end and some dev on the other furiously typing away writing code to fuck eachother over. 

  What we have with this new crew are a bunch of self-absorbed neophytes who are in way over their heads, but they're so narcissistic that they can't bear to see the truth so they continue to blame everything and everyone besides themselves for sinking this ship.....and it will sink.

  There are only two explanations as to why there's no updates on anything yet.

   First....this place is run solely by LE.   By not allowing AF it creates a solid link between a buyer and vendor than can never be broken.  This is evidence.  It also doesn't allow for a criminal enterprise to profit from an LE investigation in progress which is standard proceedure.   All of those vendors who have buyers who haven't finalized....at least one of those is from LE.  GAURANTEED.    If this site was so concerned about security, AF would be the first thing implemented because once a buy is finalized, coins can be tumbled and addresses changed to obscure the link between vendors and buyers.  THINK PEOPLE!!!

  Second option is that the current team are biding their time to run with your BTC's.  Yeah....they returned some coins after the holiday break, but that's SOP for cons.  A con with patience will always get far more.  They have you tool sheds eating out of the palms of their hands and you won't even see it coming. 

  How many excuses will you people take before you realize you're dealing with LE or a bunch of hacks who couldn't even run a local McDonalds?


If LE is truly running this website,  wouldn't you think they would be eager to bust people.  if this was true, wouldn't you think they would be running the site smoothly,  instead of timing it out after every time you click a link?   Wouldn't you think they would be looking for people to log in and place orders, instead of not being able to log in?   

It's clearly being run by a bunch of people that cannot handle whats  being thrown at it.   And if they were to run off with everyones coins, wouldn't you think they would have done that already while there was a lot more users on here? instead of them losing their customers to rival marketplace competition?

You don't have to be here,  in fact, you should get the fuck out.   

your name alone screams ignorance. 
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« Reply #128 on: February 05, 2014, 09:09:48 pm »
lol, you are all sheeps.
the moment some mod/admin/dev team persona makes a lame statment you all start licking his ass without realizing his post is practically useless.
no new information, no USEFUL updates - just the typical "come down it's a hard job you guys"

Now I'm bound to get the "they don't owe you shit!!" YES they fuckin do, you all seem to forget its US that made SR what it is (with the exception of the first DPR who made it possible).
When we place orders they make money - don't you ever fuckin forget that, you can all claim they are here for glorious reasons such as "freedom" but in the end they are here for the money you fuckheads, just like I'm here for the drugs, no shame saying that.
there are 10K listing DESPITE the shitty unfunctional market and it's all casue we kept our faith, but I'm getting tired of it (along with many others).

No support, no AF, no resolution center, weird BTC rate, vendors can't vend, accounts get locked, scammers go wild, stupid captcha bug, ridiculous deposit and withdrawl times.

Think about it, this site is WAY off, they need to take it down and make sure it works PROPERLY but then they will lose money, wouldn't they? so that's not an option.

/raging sheeps in 3...2....1....

I do not think I could have said it better, re. being in it for the money (and why not),   It really has taken a long time but I think he is telling the truth and I trust him.
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« Reply #129 on: February 06, 2014, 02:55:37 pm »
There are currently 12,000+ drug listings on the market. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but SR1 had around 9,000 when it sank. That's a 30% increase in traffic for a site run by a bare bones crew. Utopia or agora don't even have 2,000 drug listings. This IS the place to be. The numbers alone prove it. But i bet even DPR1 would have trouble writing the original code base, testing it, keeping the 12,000 listings running smoothly, and keeping servers safe when SR1 first started. Is there anyone here that was actually around when SR1 came about? THE SAME SHIT HAPPENED. After time it was fixed. Give these guys and gals the credit they deserve or like whoever above me said go to the dollar store of drug markets instead. I'll stay here :)

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« Reply #130 on: February 06, 2014, 05:38:13 pm »
There are currently 12,000+ drug listings on the market. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but SR1 had around 9,000 when it sank. That's a 30% increase in traffic for a site run by a bare bones crew. Utopia or agora don't even have 2,000 drug listings. This IS the place to be. The numbers alone prove it. But i bet even DPR1 would have trouble writing the original code base, testing it, keeping the 12,000 listings running smoothly, and keeping servers safe when SR1 first started. Is there anyone here that was actually around when SR1 came about? THE SAME SHIT HAPPENED. After time it was fixed. Give these guys and gals the credit they deserve or like whoever above me said go to the dollar store of drug markets instead. I'll stay here :)

Dude! Chick! What ever .... we pay a lot of money here. The correct thing to do would have been to not allow
buyer registrations until they could serve those who have money hanging in the wind! So an item shipped
Jan. 4th should be here or my funds .... refunded! AND support should have responded to a half a dozen
PM's requesting it.  Yeh, I been joined The Road in October of 2011 and NEVER was ignored by support.

It doesn't matter the excuses you make here! That is just stupid talk! You must work for SR2, eh? Excuses
are like ass holes. Had SR2 not been so greedy they would have made this site work. I am not
shopping here whether it happens to sell Cheech & Chongs coke from Mars or what ever! What good is it
if they can't take care of the customers it has.

Thank you for your time and I love you ALL! Even the support staff ignoring my pleas. No more money for you
guys/gals until you do respond. Until then I'll go where I'M NOT IGNORED! WHO THE FUCK CARES WHY! I'm
a paying customer for years now and I don't care what lame reasons are for not handling the flow. By not
doing so just shows me how unprepared this site is for CUSTOMER SERVICE!

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« Reply #131 on: February 06, 2014, 06:17:00 pm »
There are currently 12,000+ drug listings on the market. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but SR1 had around 9,000 when it sank. That's a 30% increase in traffic for a site run by a bare bones crew. Utopia or agora don't even have 2,000 drug listings. This IS the place to be. The numbers alone prove it. But i bet even DPR1 would have trouble writing the original code base, testing it, keeping the 12,000 listings running smoothly, and keeping servers safe when SR1 first started. Is there anyone here that was actually around when SR1 came about? THE SAME SHIT HAPPENED. After time it was fixed. Give these guys and gals the credit they deserve or like whoever above me said go to the dollar store of drug markets instead. I'll stay here :)

Dude! Chick! What ever .... we pay a lot of money here. The correct thing to do would have been to not allow
buyer registrations until they could serve those who have money hanging in the wind! So an item shipped
Jan. 4th should be here or my funds .... refunded! AND support should have responded to a half a dozen
PM's requesting it.  Yeh, I been joined The Road in October of 2011 and NEVER was ignored by support.

It doesn't matter the excuses you make here! That is just stupid talk! You must work for SR2, eh? Excuses
are like ass holes. Had SR2 not been so greedy they would have made this site work. I am not
shopping here whether it happens to sell Cheech & Chongs coke from Mars or what ever! What good is it
if they can't take care of the customers it has.

Thank you for your time and I love you ALL! Even the support staff ignoring my pleas. No more money for you
guys/gals until you do respond. Until then I'll go where I'M NOT IGNORED! WHO THE FUCK CARES WHY! I'm
a paying customer for years now and I don't care what lame reasons are for not handling the flow. By not
doing so just shows me how unprepared this site is for CUSTOMER SERVICE!

What happened to cool, calm debates? Yeah no shit, these people are doing this for the money and with 12,000 listings they're making plenty of it, but I personally believe they are also putting in ungodly amount of man hours to get this ship up to partial speed. I believe in Silk Road and I will stay.


If you don't like Silk Road then go to one of the other corner market drug sites where you might be able to find some weed, some meth, and a few pills but nothing close to the bulk and variety SR provides, buy your very limited amount of over priced drugs, and bitch about silk road there. Complaining on these forums does nothing but lower morale and use up digital storage saving your worthless comments.

Yes it's been brought up:
 
1) Support staff is almost non existant
2) Still no Auto Finalize
3) Scammers are running rampant (which I believe is due to the influx of uneducated noobs; survival of the fittest. Do your homework before buying)
4) Deposits and Withdrawals are a dice roll every time


Blah blah blah. Multiple Admins and mods have publicly announced they are aware and working on it. All we can do is give them time. If they fix it then great, if not then they failed. Failure is a very slim chance in my eyes at this point.

This is a business, just like anywhere else in the world. If you don't like how long the lines are at Wal-mart, you go to K-mart. Not hang out in aisle 4 of Wal-mart bitching about stuff to everyone that walks by you that you have no control over.  Quit complaining and whining it does absolutely nothing. You can complain and bash this site all you want but once its up to full speed and there's 30,000 drug listings running flawlessly you'll be biting your words. But thats just my humble opinion  :)

All we can do is wait. As much as that sucks it's what we have to do. Only time will tell. If you need your fix that bad go to the The Hub and find a site to buy your drugs and get your fix. Until then keep checking back on SR to see their progress, because obviously this is still a work in progress.




Alright trolls, go ahead with the discourages  :)
« Last Edit: February 06, 2014, 06:29:42 pm by Sunnyvale »

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Re: Everyone take a deep breath
« Reply #132 on: February 06, 2014, 08:57:06 pm »
  You people make me lol. 

   The more the administration feeds you lines of complete bullshit, the more you lap it up.   This truly is a site full of imbeciles and lemmings.  These people are going to leave with your BTC's.  There's no other explanation considering they aren't even competent enough to fix a captcha.  I learned how to do that in the first month of Computer Science in high school for fuck sake. 

   I know....I know.....they're all working on security issues LMAO.   Security of WHAT?  This isn't some movie crap where there's a hacker on one end and some dev on the other furiously typing away writing code to fuck eachother over. 

  What we have with this new crew are a bunch of self-absorbed neophytes who are in way over their heads, but they're so narcissistic that they can't bear to see the truth so they continue to blame everything and everyone besides themselves for sinking this ship.....and it will sink.

  There are only two explanations as to why there's no updates on anything yet.

   First....this place is run solely by LE.   By not allowing AF it creates a solid link between a buyer and vendor than can never be broken.  This is evidence.  It also doesn't allow for a criminal enterprise to profit from an LE investigation in progress which is standard proceedure.   All of those vendors who have buyers who haven't finalized....at least one of those is from LE.  GAURANTEED.    If this site was so concerned about security, AF would be the first thing implemented because once a buy is finalized, coins can be tumbled and addresses changed to obscure the link between vendors and buyers.  THINK PEOPLE!!!

  Second option is that the current team are biding their time to run with your BTC's.  Yeah....they returned some coins after the holiday break, but that's SOP for cons.  A con with patience will always get far more.  They have you tool sheds eating out of the palms of their hands and you won't even see it coming. 

  How many excuses will you people take before you realize you're dealing with LE or a bunch of hacks who couldn't even run a local McDonalds?


If LE is truly running this website,  wouldn't you think they would be eager to bust people.  if this was true, wouldn't you think they would be running the site smoothly,  instead of timing it out after every time you click a link?   Wouldn't you think they would be looking for people to log in and place orders, instead of not being able to log in?   

It's clearly being run by a bunch of people that cannot handle whats  being thrown at it.   And if they were to run off with everyones coins, wouldn't you think they would have done that already while there was a lot more users on here? instead of them losing their customers to rival marketplace competition?

You don't have to be here,  in fact, you should get the fuck out.   

your name alone screams ignorance.

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« Reply #133 on: February 07, 2014, 02:01:41 am »
There are currently 12,000+ drug listings on the market. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but SR1 had around 9,000 when it sank. That's a 30% increase in traffic for a site run by a bare bones crew. Utopia or agora don't even have 2,000 drug listings. This IS the place to be. The numbers alone prove it. But i bet even DPR1 would have trouble writing the original code base, testing it, keeping the 12,000 listings running smoothly, and keeping servers safe when SR1 first started. Is there anyone here that was actually around when SR1 came about? THE SAME SHIT HAPPENED. After time it was fixed. Give these guys and gals the credit they deserve or like whoever above me said go to the dollar store of drug markets instead. I'll stay here :)

Dude! Chick! What ever .... we pay a lot of money here. The correct thing to do would have been to not allow
buyer registrations until they could serve those who have money hanging in the wind! So an item shipped
Jan. 4th should be here or my funds .... refunded! AND support should have responded to a half a dozen
PM's requesting it.  Yeh, I been joined The Road in October of 2011 and NEVER was ignored by support.

It doesn't matter the excuses you make here! That is just stupid talk! You must work for SR2, eh? Excuses
are like ass holes. Had SR2 not been so greedy they would have made this site work. I am not
shopping here whether it happens to sell Cheech & Chongs coke from Mars or what ever! What good is it
if they can't take care of the customers it has.

Thank you for your time and I love you ALL! Even the support staff ignoring my pleas. No more money for you
guys/gals until you do respond. Until then I'll go where I'M NOT IGNORED! WHO THE FUCK CARES WHY! I'm
a paying customer for years now and I don't care what lame reasons are for not handling the flow. By not
doing so just shows me how unprepared this site is for CUSTOMER SERVICE!

What happened to cool, calm debates? Yeah no shit, these people are doing this for the money and with 12,000 listings they're making plenty of it, but I personally believe they are also putting in ungodly amount of man hours to get this ship up to partial speed. I believe in Silk Road and I will stay.


If you don't like Silk Road then go to one of the other corner market drug sites where you might be able to find some weed, some meth, and a few pills but nothing close to the bulk and variety SR provides, buy your very limited amount of over priced drugs, and bitch about silk road there. Complaining on these forums does nothing but lower morale and use up digital storage saving your worthless comments.

Yes it's been brought up:
 
1) Support staff is almost non existant
2) Still no Auto Finalize
3) Scammers are running rampant (which I believe is due to the influx of uneducated noobs; survival of the fittest. Do your homework before buying)
4) Deposits and Withdrawals are a dice roll every time


Blah blah blah. Multiple Admins and mods have publicly announced they are aware and working on it. All we can do is give them time. If they fix it then great, if not then they failed. Failure is a very slim chance in my eyes at this point.

This is a business, just like anywhere else in the world. If you don't like how long the lines are at Wal-mart, you go to K-mart. Not hang out in aisle 4 of Wal-mart bitching about stuff to everyone that walks by you that you have no control over.  Quit complaining and whining it does absolutely nothing. You can complain and bash this site all you want but once its up to full speed and there's 30,000 drug listings running flawlessly you'll be biting your words. But thats just my humble opinion  :)

All we can do is wait. As much as that sucks it's what we have to do. Only time will tell. If you need your fix that bad go to the The Hub and find a site to buy your drugs and get your fix. Until then keep checking back on SR to see their progress, because obviously this is still a work in progress.




Alright trolls, go ahead with the discourages  :)

It would be a bitch though if Walmart let you sell your product at there store for a 8% commission, only to have them keep a hold of your money and refuse to let you have it... I would probs be in the store screaming till i broke down and cried like a little girl :)
Please stop being greedy and shut this place down until at least some of the major critical issues are fixed.... Right now you are putting every body at a financial and security risk.

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« Reply #134 on: February 07, 2014, 05:24:21 am »
  You people make me lol. 

   The more the administration feeds you lines of complete bullshit, the more you lap it up.   This truly is a site full of imbeciles and lemmings.  These people are going to leave with your BTC's.  There's no other explanation considering they aren't even competent enough to fix a captcha.  I learned how to do that in the first month of Computer Science in high school for fuck sake. 

   I know....I know.....they're all working on security issues LMAO.   Security of WHAT?  This isn't some movie crap where there's a hacker on one end and some dev on the other furiously typing away writing code to fuck eachother over. 

  What we have with this new crew are a bunch of self-absorbed neophytes who are in way over their heads, but they're so narcissistic that they can't bear to see the truth so they continue to blame everything and everyone besides themselves for sinking this ship.....and it will sink.

  There are only two explanations as to why there's no updates on anything yet.

   First....this place is run solely by LE.   By not allowing AF it creates a solid link between a buyer and vendor than can never be broken.  This is evidence.  It also doesn't allow for a criminal enterprise to profit from an LE investigation in progress which is standard proceedure.   All of those vendors who have buyers who haven't finalized....at least one of those is from LE.  GAURANTEED.    If this site was so concerned about security, AF would be the first thing implemented because once a buy is finalized, coins can be tumbled and addresses changed to obscure the link between vendors and buyers.  THINK PEOPLE!!!

  Second option is that the current team are biding their time to run with your BTC's.  Yeah....they returned some coins after the holiday break, but that's SOP for cons.  A con with patience will always get far more.  They have you tool sheds eating out of the palms of their hands and you won't even see it coming. 

  How many excuses will you people take before you realize you're dealing with LE or a bunch of hacks who couldn't even run a local McDonalds?

When will I get my bond back I have well over the stats. I really need it and contacted support alot about the issue but to no response. Does anyone know when I will get my bond back? Thats like 500$, promised to give back to me if I have over $1000 sold and 30 5/5 listings. Ive had those states in the first couple weeks and messaged them twice and they never responded. Im getting fed up.. Does anyone know or have recieved their vendor bond in the last 30 days
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« Reply #135 on: February 09, 2014, 12:56:32 am »
Seems everyone is breathing easier now....just a little anyway :)
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« Reply #136 on: February 09, 2014, 02:05:27 am »
No not everyone mate. To HEX - dont have a go at ather people when your clearly in the wrong here. Get your fucking finger out and fix this joke of a site. Dont tell people that are fucking furious at you withholding their money to " take a deep breath". Ok