SR's take on BMR's "Tor is not big enough"

[DrMDA]

So with BMR closing due to it's insistence that Tor is not big enough to hide it what is SR's take on this? Will SR still be able to hide?

[DrMDA]

As messed up as it sounds I think all those kiddie porn sites were good for security. They used MASSIVE amounts of Tor bandwidth and we were probably just a speck on Tor with them around. Remember when Freedom Hosting was taken down and the next day Tor ran soooo much faster?

[wishihada2jz]

A pedophile, a drug dealer and a horse fucker walk into a bar...

They log into Tor.

+1

[DrMDA]

A pedophile, a drug dealer and a horse fucker walk into a bar...

They log into Tor.

Yeah, I'm listening, go on.

[DrMDA]

A pedophile, a drug dealer and a horse fucker walk into a bar...

They log into Tor.

Yeah, I'm listening, go on.

I put a pun in the first thread and came up with joke and started a magazine today sir. I believe that was sufficient.

That was the start of a joke?? I thought it was the start of a fairy tale. God I must be hanging around druggies too much. I need to get off this site.

[DrMDA]

We do not support graphic depictions of underage sexual relations or bestiality at The Courier Dr.

Whoever said anything about underage sex?? Or was the drug dealer in your bar not of age?

I figured the horse fucker would mistake the pedophile as a horse and the drug dealer would be laughing his ass off on weed as he watched a horse fucker rape a pedophile.... Yeah I need to start hanging around healthier people.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

We do have thoughts on this, but right now it would not be in our interest to share them. We have a team dedicated to problems like this who do nothing but think of solutions and try such things out, an R & D department if you will who have a huge budget to protect us. No problem is too great to overcome but we must be certain before moving to it because as I have already highlighted, we are now on the frontiers of this technology.

[DanDanTheIceCreamMan]

I believe they will be staying open until version 5 rolls out. Backopy just closed registration for buyers in hopes that would help.

[Agent]

I believe they will be staying open until version 5 rolls out. Backopy just closed registration for buyers in hopes that would help.

Backopy is so far seeing how much traffic his marketplace will be getting before he makes a real decision but what he has been saying is that with all of the extra traffic it will over load the gateways he has set up to spread the load of it all and he can run a better marketplace if he closes it down and puts all of his effort and focus into getting BlackMarketReloaded v5 ready for release sooner than expected of early two-thousand and fourteen instead of spending all of his time trying to upkeep the current instance and fix all of the bugs that the extra traffic would cause. He has stated he could keep up the current market if he was able to deploy a lot more nodes to balance out the load but this still takes time to setup and get working one hundred percent so it would be smarter to take it down instead of trying to patch all of the problems he may get with receiving a large amount of the of Tor network traffic.

If you where around when the Tor network was facing some troubles by the massive network traffic increase where the amount of users doubled in about a week of the entire total of Tor users and all of these new users where putting the strain on the relays and operators not able to figure out why users where having trouble completing an entire circuit, this was what I suspected of being a very large network of Tor clients trying to flood as much of the network as it could so then it could follow the path of the normal users as the botnet of sorts was made to create half a connection which then let someone see the traffic of the clients able to create a full connection between nodes and find out where most of the traffic was going around the network and where it ended up leading to what I believe to be the reason SilkRoad was able to be found by location from the three letter agencies.

With a lot of people always wanting to use the most reputable it gains a lot of traffic very fast and not only puts it under a lot of strain but makes it obvious where most of the Tor network traffic is flowing through and can lead to not only the marketplace being unresponsive but painting a picture for an analyst of what direction they need to put all of their effort towards to find the location of marketplace servers. This is why Backopy is happy being number two or third on the list of most visited marketplaces because it would take the target off him and give it to someone else to deal with.

That being said we as the users should be using all of the marketplaces that are out there to share the load even if it not to make any purchases but we are able to hide better when everything is spread out and moving all around the world instead of there being a stream to one particular point on the network. It would also help out the marketplaces if more users where to run Tor nodes such as bridges, exit relays and non-exit relays as the more that are up and running the less chance an adversary would have trying to control a larger portion of the network to analyze the users that are using it.

This information is coming from memory and may not be one hundred percent with detail as I would need to read over the Tor Projects research papers again. If anyone is willing to correct any of it please help yourself.

[Pot]

Let me share some thoughts on it.

There are ~4000 tor relays. Users are not forced to be relays because the torproject thinks this is a dreadful idea.

Now, at the current moment it is assumed that two, possibly more, but for the sake of this paragraph two things can be discovered from an adversary passively monitoring tor traffic.

1.The fact that it is tor traffic.
2.The size of the tor traffic.

Now, take the size of a website like silk road and the "needle in a haystack" analogy.

Now luckily searching for a tor server is NOT like finding a needle in a haystack. That would be EASY, it is more like finding a very specific piece of hay in a haystack.

Now let's say someone is hosting a very large website within this haystack, now whoever is passively observing this piece of hay is noticing WOW this piece of hay is getting HUGE. In fact, it is much larger than  any piece of hay I've ever seen.

Now this is when my hay in a haystack analogy sort of falls apart but bare with me...they say to themselves, "Hmmmm this server is producing quite a bit of encrypted tor traffic. I wonder what's inside. Oh woe is me I don't have the ability to decrypt 2048bit RSA and quantum computers won't exist for another 10-20 years!". "Why I know!", says the hog. "I'll Ddos the server, if this piece of hay disappears I'll know it's the one and I can eat the scrumptious peticular piece of hay!" or the hog says, "I'll hack the server" or any other vector of attack.

TL;DR
Tor and i2p should fuck and have a baby already half or more of these relays are probably compromised.