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Silk Road discussion / MOVED: 350 money ack need coin now
« on: February 17, 2012, 03:55 pm »
This topic has been moved to Product requests (https://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?board=4.0).


This topic has been moved to Rumor mill (https://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?board=7.0).


Silk Road discussion / Feedback tweaks, please weigh in.
« on: February 17, 2012, 03:22 pm »
I've been amazed by all of the products and services that have found their way to our marketplace.  All kinds of products I've never heard of, and even non-physical goods have found their way here.  The feedback system was designed with product shipment and receipt in mind (full explanation: https://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/wiki/index.php/Feedback_Score).  However, innovative buyers and sellers have found ways to gain what appears to be unwarranted advantages within the current system.  For example, buyers are loading up on low cost digital goods to boost their buyer stats.  One clever seller has been selling low cost lottery tickets to win product samples drawing in hundreds of transactions in a fraction of the time that it takes most sellers, leading others to do the same to keep up.  When the system is compelling vendors to compete in strange ways like this, it is probably time to take a second look at it.  I don't want the market to turn into a bunch of lottery listings.  It's a cool idea for here and there, but seller's shouldn't have to do it to keep up.

I think I have devised a way to adjust the feedback and ranking system to be more representative of the vendor's experience and the scale of their operation while still giving high volume, low cost seller's their due.  However, instead of just making the changes unilaterally, I want to open up discussion and get everyone's input, especially the vendors who's rank will decrease as a result (low cost item vendors and bitcoin exchangers).

The component of the feedback system that I want to change is the price weight (how much a rating counts toward a vendors feedback score and rank based on the price of the item).  As seen in the wiki link above, the weight can be found by the following formula: 0.2*log(0.02*(price)+1)+1.  This puts free and low cost items, such as listings for bitcoin exchanges, many digital goods, and lottery tickets, at a weight of 1.  The weight then rises as the price rises, reaching a 50% increase at around $500.  In my opinion, this is much too small an increase.  Completing a $500 transaction, most likely requiring shipment of a physical good or some professional service, should carry much more weight than a simple digital lottery ticket, or downloadable e-book.  My proposal is to put the weight of free items at zero, and increase the weight much more rapidly, up to 0.25 at around $10, 0.5 at around $25, 1 at $90, 1.5 at $280, 2 at $750, and so on.  A visual representation can be seen here: http://www.onlinefunctiongrapher.com/?f=0.5*log(0.07*(x)%2B1)|0.2*log(0.02*(x)%2B1)%2B1&xMin=-40.642404416353166&xMax=593.9416316216038&yMin=-0.15783383043417978&yMax=2.098768235888415.  The green line is the current way and the purple line is the proposed new way.

So, for example, all else equal, a rating from a $90 transaction will count for twice as much toward a vendor's feedback score and rank compared to a $25 purchase. and 4 times as much as a $10 purchase.  The net effect of this change is to put more emphasis on the total dollar volume a vendor does, and less on the quantity of transactions performed.  To think of it another way, at one extreme, only quantity would matter and all transactions would be rated equally, whether for a lottery ticket on a gram of weed, or 3 kilos of fine Colombian flake.  At the other extreme, there would be a linear relationship between price and weight, where a $100 item would count 100 times more than a $1 item.  I think the change I am proposing is fair and will lead to more rational competition amongst the vendors, but as I said before I would like to hear from you all first.  Let's try to keep discussion about tweaking the numbers to a minimum and focus more on the overall effect we want to produce in the market.

clarification:  this change would reduce the rank of low cost item vendors, but not affect feedback scores very much.  Cases where it would affect feedback scores is if a vendor sells both low and high cost goods and has very different ratings from the two categories.  For example, if a vendor sells some low cost ebooks and also high quality ecstasy, and has terrible reviews from their ecstasy deals but great reviews from their ebook sales, this vendor can expect their rating to drop as the bad reviews are weighted more and their good reviews rated less.

Silk Road discussion / Re: Buyer Purchasing Stats - New
« on: February 17, 2012, 05:10 am »
Those stats are very wrong.

I went back and double checked and you are very right.  They should be displaying correctly now.  If you are set to view prices in btc, then you will see how many bitcoins you have spent on the site regardless of what the exchange rate was at the time.  If you are set to view prices in dollars, you will see the number of dollars you've spent on the site at the time of purchase.

Silk Road discussion / MOVED: High demand products on SR
« on: February 13, 2012, 01:32 pm »
This topic has been moved to Product offers (https://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?board=5.0).


Silk Road discussion / Withdrawal problems
« on: February 11, 2012, 06:06 am »
UPDATE 2/14/2012 2:05 pm UTC: Withdrawals are now flowing again.  Thank you everyone for your patience throughout this process.  As always, if you have any grievance at all, I completely understand.  I and the rest of the support staff are here to make it right.  Please just let us know.

UPDATE 2/14/2012 1:08 pm UTC: The bitcoin exchange rate just dropped about a buck, so we will be adding 15% to all of the current pending withdrawals to cover it.

UPDATE 2/14/2012 6:37 am UTC:  We are looking at up to 24 more hours until withdrawals can start flowing again.  There is a chance it will be ready sooner, but I can't guarantee it.  Really sorry, but I think we'll be good to go after this.

UPDATE:  Ok, we are still having problems.  I am going to roll back the withdrawal system to a configuration known to work and re-evaluate the whole thing.  You can still withdrawal right now, but there is going to be a delay of several hours before the withdrawal is made.  If you made a withdrawal any time from around 10pm feb 13th UTC until now, your withdrawal is queued and will be processed, but it's going to be a few hours at least.  I'll keep this thread updated with progress.

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Hey gang,

We've been having problems with some user's withdrawals the past week or so where their accounts were debited, but the actual Bitcoin transfer was never broadcast to the Bitcoin network.  It took some figuring out, but I think we finally have it fixed.  Please double check that your withdrawals over the past week or so made it out.  If you find any that weren't sent, but your account was debited, please message support via the contact us link on the main site with the amount and time of the withdrawal.  So sorry for the trouble this has caused everyone, especially the vendors that were depending on those funds to re-stock.

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Silk Road discussion / Re: Customer appreciation sale THIS weekend!
« on: February 07, 2012, 08:55 am »
first post updated

I sympathize with your concern DubG.  Without revealing too much, we put the minimal amount of bitcoins at risk of theft and protect the rest with dispersed cold-storage backups.  Definitely use the backup address feature though, just in case.

Silk Road discussion / Re: The Name Game Continued
« on: February 05, 2012, 04:58 am »
technically noisebr0 was the last poster, but who is noisebr0???  Most likely a profile made by a cheating bot!  The winner is MagicMan!!!   Congrats MM!  Thanks everyone else for playing.  I hope you like my new name  8)

Silk Road discussion / Re: The Name Game Continued
« on: February 05, 2012, 04:48 am »
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drum roll please.....................
and my new name is:

Dread Pirate Roberts

I'll give it a couple of days to sink in before actually changing it on the sites, but there you have it :D  Can't wait to see who the winner is after I post this!

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Silk Road discussion / MOVED: Best Cocaine vendor
« on: February 02, 2012, 12:28 pm »
This topic has been moved to Rumor mill (https://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?board=7.0).


Silk Road discussion / Re: Customer appreciation sale THIS weekend!
« on: February 01, 2012, 10:53 am »
Hello all.

Swazibudbud888 is providing SR with freebies - please do not mail us regarding freebies - mail SR for your freebies. - We are on vacation until this blows over -

Please, do not mail Swazibudbud888 in regard to any freebies - YOU WILL NOT GET ANY REPLY.

best regards


ummm... no.  Do not message SR Support with product requests.  Vendors must fill their own orders.

Silk Road discussion / Re: Customer appreciation sale THIS weekend!
« on: January 31, 2012, 09:55 am »
so if i order now i get the discount? or i have to order on the weekend to get the discount? and do all the listings appear with the discounts or normal price and then discount is applied?
thanks :)

the sale goes into effect this weekend.  when it does, you'll see prices across the board drop.  Each vendor is in charge of their own sale and should be providing details on their user page before the weekend.

Silk Road discussion / Customer appreciation sale THIS weekend!
« on: January 31, 2012, 09:04 am »
UPDATE:  Thank you everyone for making the sale a HUGE success!  I want to give a warm and special thank you to all of the vendors who pulled together at the last minute to offer up their sales.  My apologies to those that ran sales but didn't make it on the list, hopefully the word got out anyway.  Next time we'll give more notice for vendors to get deals together, and customers to get bitcoins.  We love you guys!  See you around the site  8)

ATTENTION:  Please do not message vendors asking for their free samples.  They will list their samples in the market for 0 btc when they are ready to :)

Let's face it, the Silk Road vendors and staff are here for the customers.  Without you, we'd be out of business :(  Each and every person that takes the plunge and makes a purchase is standing up for themselves and setting an example for their fellow man.  The commerce that happens here is out of the reach of the oppressors and control freaks of this world.  The bigger our world gets, the smaller theirs gets, and YOU are making that possible.

To show our love and gratitude for you, we are discounting every item on the site by up to 10%.  On top of that, many vendors are running special deals for the weekend:

3Jane                                     15% extra MDA per order                                                           silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/800
Ivory                                        10% extra in all orders + free shipping                                    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/1473
hybridmike                      25% off everything                                                                    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/2677
OracleofDelphi              10% off everything plus free budder samples                    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/3225
Avon                              50% off dexadrine                                                                    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/4447
Anarcho47                      discount AA grade cannabis                                                      silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/7181
aakoven                              33% off speed                                                                            silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/9653
tweetb                              20% off everything                                                                    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/9897
N0thing                              10% off everything                                                                    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/9903
PsiloTRON                           $10 off Suboxone 2 packs                                                          silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/10434
streetpharmacy                    buy 10 xtc pills get 3 free                                                            silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/11842
joy                                      $8 /hit blotters (only 25 available)                                             silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/14770
RickyRango                      free copies of my book                                                            silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/16949
Variety Jones                       buy one cannabis seed strain get one free                             silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/22205
YpzjNj                              10% off Testosteron Enanthate, free ebooks                            silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/30964
psilocin                              discounted heroin                                                                        silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/33954
Swazibudbud888      free samples of swazi                                                                    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/36404
PharmVille                      discount valium                                                                            silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/36712
EnterTheMatrix                    2 free DXM packs with every order over $25                          silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/43309
richierich302                      free samples of diazepam and tramadol                              silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/46472
SpanishFly                           10% extra in every order                                                             silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/51661
DRamsterdam              25% off party-pack                                                                    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/60430
googleyed                             25%+ off 2C-B                                                                              silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/61728
anchientlib                             discounted norco                                                                         silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/63211
Blaatz0r                              10% off everything                                                                    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/66802
CandyShop                           buy 10 get 3 free defqons                                                           silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/67688
PharmacyX                           10 - 25% off + Rx gift in every order                                          silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/67908
sildenafil                                up to 90% off select items                                                           silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/68436
ObamaGirl                            discount LSD                                                                                 silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/80538
heisenburg                      permaculate 1g's for $100, shipping included                    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/88147
Moon Unit                              free DMT, just pay shipping                                                       silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/91036
notamused                      $10 off oz's of synthetic                                                            silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/91693
brownpurple31                     20% off everything                                                                       silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/93368
rastamanAUS              free space cookies                                                                    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/97981
KikisDeliveryService      10% off everything                                                                    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/99205
JohnnyDeal                           10% extra in weed orders                                                          silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/100210
Poseidon                               discount mdma + mdma and heroin samples                         silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/100354
theweedman                         50% off everything                                                                       silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/110315
drmorpheus                          25% off morphine                                                                         silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/110858
jayesh                              3/4 Ounce super cali for $199 + freebies                            silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/115643
TheEmporium              blotter and mdpv samples. 25-33% off blotters and mdpv    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/124951
Noriega                                  15% off everything                                                                       silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/125938
mushitup                                discount shrooms, grandaddy purp, free shipping                silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/130082
ron paul                              free blotter acid pages, just pay shipping                                silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/130229
tony76                              10% off everything                                                                    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/133324
DopeyDwarf                          25% off & buy 10 get 11                                                             silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/134227
NeuroticNarcotic                  Discount MDMA                                                                           silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/135094
OrganicBuds              nearly 50% off                                                                               silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/135830
HappySmoke420                $10 weed samples free shipping                                               silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/137251
DubG                              free GHB samples                                                                    silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/140827
aussieExpress                     10% off, free express post + free cap in every order              silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/140997

more to come...

* tba = to be announced
** Free samples are for first-time buyers only, but the discounts are for everyone.
*** Sale will last from 12 am Saturday until 11:59 pm Sunday UTC (48 hours)

Thank you again for being who you are and engaging in this revolution.  On behalf of the vendors and staff, WE LOVE YOU :D

Silk Road discussion / Silk Road market down at the moment.
« on: January 28, 2012, 04:42 am »
UPDATE: everything appears as it should on our end.  A traffic spike (most likely from gawker) caused the outage.  we'll take a closer look at what happened and hopefully devise a solution in case this happens again.  Thanks everyone for your patience.

UPDATE:  we are back online.  there may be intermittent outages in the immediate future as we look at the cause of the outage.  Please allow at least a few hours for the system to catch up in regards to processing deposits, vendor rankings, etc.

UPDATE:  all server data is intact, all backups are up-to-date, and all bitcoins are accounted for.

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hey gang,
sorry for the sudden outage.  just found out about it and am looking into it.  I'll keep this thread updated with any developments.  sorry for the trouble.

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