Support + Captcha Launch: Jan 31st (UPDATE 6)

[Defcon]

UPDATE 6: Launch rescheduled. Updates continue in this thread: http://silkroad5v7dywlc.onion/index.php?topic=22969.0

UPDATE 5: The new CAPTCHA system has been implemented, resolving the affected login failures.The support UI integration is almost complete as well. Our latest test pass in our offline environment revealed that while placing tickets older than seven days into a "Resolved" status, the system would occasionally throw an error which gets placed into the ticket and caused it to re-open all those it had processed.

We are troubleshooting the root cause of the error as we speak. Once that is found/rectified, we will attempt another sync and implement it into production. Apologies for yet another delay, but once complete, support will be able to respond quicker than at any point in Silk Road's history.

UPDATE 4: The hardening took more hours than expected, the dev team has delivered the improved code to the security team but they are still in the process of testing it. We apologize for the delays getting this out. This fix to the new release was essential and could not be postponed. Our next opportunity to release is in ~10-14 hours with all dev staff online. Will update here when we know the exact time.

UPDATE 3: Launch is unlikely for the 28th, our security team just raised a very valid concern. We are playing it safe, hardening code, then will be launching on the 29th. Staff apologies for the delays, we prioritize security above features no matter how long-awaited they are.

UPDATE 2: A server update is taking longer than expected. Rather than be offline for more than an hour, we are pushing back the window again. As a result of this update the downtime will only be thirty minutes, and will start at 17:00 UTC.

UPDATE: Pushed back a few hours to 15:00 to ensure that all of the dev team is online during the launch, and because one of your admins is very hungover. Good morning cruel world.

The team has been working very hard behind the scenes to keep deposits/withdrawals flowing quickly, and to continue scaling our infrastructure in ways that still preserve security.

We are now ready to launch two important changes to the marketplace:
1. New Support System - Staff has had access to an incredible new support interface for over a week now, and after security test results we have decided that it is safe to continue the rollout to marketplace customers. You may notice a new response from staff which you did not previously see. This is not a bug, it is a symptom of staff testing the new interface by responding to you before launch.

IMPORTANT: In order to help staff resolve the massive support backlog as quickly as possible, we are marking all issues over seven days old as resolved. This does not mean we are ignoring you. If you are affected by this, simply open the support request and add a new message. This will re-open the request. This might seem like a strange approach, but it will allow our staff to focus on actually resolving issues rather than sending hundreds of "Does this issue still exist?" responses.

2. CAPTCHA Improvement - We have rewritten the CAPTCHA system, resolving a bug affecting login and registration.

Staff appreciates your support as we have been heads-down writing and testing these updates.

I will update this post when the launch is complete.

[matrix]

good to hear def..
thank you for the good news, i hope it all works out well.

[HonoluluExpress]

Finally! Thanks Defcon. Keep up the good work behind the scenes

+1 

[After10pm]

Its just comes down to having patience, all good things in good time.

[r0guebubbles]

thanks for the update Defcon

[Wakeside917]

Never doubted ya Defcon.  Thanks sir.  I cant wait to see the new support system working.  I want to get this lockout over with once and for all.

[Xeisenberg]

Excellent! Great to see updates direct from Defqon!!

[moonlight]

I mean its nice to have a more responsive support but how is this a good news?


will support be able to disable AF?
will support be able to sort the negative balance issue?
will support be able to return the escrow money stuck for over a month?
will support be able to return money from users that have been scammed and havn t FE?
will support be able to refund bonds back to the vendors?
will support be able to reset pin/password?


what is support gonna do to solve the issue?

you arse lickers are once again licking blindly.

defcon could  write an essaie on how his last poo went and you would still suck him ,,sad.

[daddybee]

thanks for the update 

[Klaymen]

Great! Good to hear things are moving smoothly

[MarthaQuest]

Better all the time. Keep it up!!

MQ

[anontoker]

Looking forward to the update and this place finally returning to normal (SR1) as we all hoped it would.

Once again, thanks.

(Unless you get enough thanks already. Ha.)

[Wilfred!]

Good shit Defcon! well done with the update.  this sounds like a well needed update.  Hopefully this will sort out the Auto FE issue.

[PhilipJFry]

b]IMPORTANT:[/b] In order to help staff resolve the massive support backlog as quickly as possible, we are marking all issues over seven days old as resolved.

What about all the numerous support tickets, some going back over two months? Will all the efforts to file support requests have been in vain then or have the existing support requests been imported into your support system so those with persisting problems only have to mark their tickets as open?

[Ganjedi]

Thank you Defcon!
+1

[reiji]

Very nice. As always, I look forward to the future of SR.

[SupremeTeam]

Great news and keep the up the good work guys.

Sometimes we all just need a little patience

[LeaderMeds]

Thank's for the update

[Dutch-Passion]

Thanks Defcon, you're updates are gold for me.

[kisforkittens]

glad to see the staff have been doing their job. thanks for the update.

[CaptainWhiteBeard]

The team has been working very hard behind the scenes to keep deposits/withdrawals flowing quickly, and to continue scaling our infrastructure in ways that still preserve security.

We are now ready to launch two important changes to the marketplace:
1. New Support System - Staff has had access to an incredible new support interface for over a week now, and after security test results we have decided that it is safe to continue the rollout to marketplace customers. You may notice a new response from staff which you did not previously see. This is not a bug, it is a symptom of staff testing the new interface by responding to you before launch.

IMPORTANT: In order to help staff resolve the massive support backlog as quickly as possible, we are marking all issues over seven days old as resolved. This does not mean we are ignoring you. If you are affected by this, simply open the support request and add a new message. This will re-open the request. This might seem like a strange approach, but it will allow our staff to focus on actually resolving issues rather than sending hundreds of "Does this issue still exist?" responses.

2. CAPTCHA Improvement - We have rewritten the CAPTCHA system, resolving a bug affecting login and registration.

Staff appreciates your support as we have been heads-down writing and testing these updates.

I will update this post when the launch is complete.

Cheers Defcon! 

[d.a.y.w.]

I mean its nice to have a more responsive support but how is this a good news?


will support be able to disable AF?
will support be able to sort the negative balance issue?
will support be able to return the escrow money stuck for over a month?
will support be able to return money from users that have been scammed and havn t FE?
will support be able to refund bonds back to the vendors?
will support be able to reset pin/password?


what is support gonna do to solve the issue?

you arse lickers are once again licking blindly.

defcon could  write an essaie on how his last poo went and you would still suck him ,,sad.

I dont want to sound an arse, but there`s something true in that! How many times did we hear those things and have been disappointed afterwards...

[theweedreviewer]

+9000

[moonlight]

how about releasing usefull features first so you can decrease the amount of tickets instead of prioritizing useless features ?

why are these pseudo features always invisible to it s users ?

you were meant to explain in depth whats this new support system is all about? where is that explanation?

the dispute resolution center was supposed to be in testing for weeks,so why does it take a fucking month to release it?

you ve scheduled exact dates for all these features,that means you though you d make it in time right?so why do we have to wait another fucking 3 weeks?why lie to the community?

honestly stop wanking each other ,

[worth-strut]

how about releasing usefull features first so you can decrease the amount of tickets instead of prioritizing useless features ?

why are these pseudo features always invisible to it s users ?

you were meant to explain in depth whats this new support system is all about? where is that explanation?

the dispute resolution center was supposed to be in testing for weeks,so why does it take a fucking month to release it?

you ve scheduled exact dates for all these features,that means you though you d make it in time right?so why do we have to wait another fucking 3 weeks?why lie to the community?

honestly stop wanking each other ,

If your local shop is closed or has anything going on later than it should do you go in there and start ranting like a child? Just because The Silk Road team hasn't given you an explanation of exactly what's going on doesn't mean they are lying to you. Can you still get quality drugs through your letterbox? Yes? Then quiet down and be gratefull!

Thanks Defcon and team. Keep up the good work!

[Wakeside917]

+1 Defcon.  Midnight can get here fast enough.

[therealmightyboosh77]

thanks for the update Defcon - my well wishes for a smooth launch of the support system. 

[Wakeside917]

Midnight tomorrow I meant.

[Cheese on Toast]

Midnight tomorrow I meant.

Pretty sure it's 11am till 12 noon mate.

[d.a.y.w.]

[ Can you still get quality drugs through your letterbox? Yes? Then quiet down and be gratefull!

That's exactly the problem: We can't!
I can't even get into my SR account since two weeks!

[arctic]

Looking forward to the new support system

Will auto-finalize also be enabled after the down time?

[jackymick2.0]

 +1  Sounds good

[IshitBacon]

Great, Now everyone can stop crying like they have sand in their vagina.

[charliethefrog]

Great, Now everyone can stop crying like they have sand in their vagina.

I wish i had sand in my vagina... it would be alot more comfortable then what ive been going through... I cant even advertise my product on other markets that actually allow me to sell my product without the mods marking it as spam.... they go for days at a time without a single word on the vendor issue but as soon as you advertise a place where people can actually buy your product, its edited and removed within minutes.. please get your priorities  straight, and I prey to jesus this new support system can fix my account within 24 hours... which is what I originally prayed for over a fucking week ago

Thank you for your time and consideration

[moondog65]

Thank you Def and the entire SR staff for all your hard work. I hope to use this marketplace ( if I don't get scammed) for years to come.

[IshitBacon]

Great, Now everyone can stop crying like they have sand in their vagina.

I wish i had sand in my vagina... it would be alot more comfortable then what ive been going through... I cant even advertise my product on other markets that actually allow me to sell my product without the mods marking it as spam.... they go for days at a time without a single word on the vendor issue but as soon as you advertise a place where people can actually buy your product, its edited and removed within minutes.. please get your priorities  straight, and I prey to jesus this new support system can fix my account within 24 hours... which is what I originally prayed for over a fucking week ago

Thank you for your time and consideration

Just think about what you’re complaining about. I’m sure you have a right to complain since you put your hard earned money into something expecting to make a return. But check this, you are most likely selling something that is illegal to the people who are willing to buy it over the internet. I’m not sure enough people can explain this. Be grateful you have a reason to complain about something, I guess you could just be stuck selling out of your car. Or your other markets.

[Cornelius23]

Midnight tomorrow I meant.

Pretty sure it's 11am till 12 noon mate.

Perhaps Wakeside917 is in somewhere like Fiji

I can't even get into my SR account since two weeks!

Is that because of the captcha bug that should be fixed this afternoon?

[lazybone]

roger that sir!

[EloPolako]

Thanks !

[shashimartell]

Good to hear from you DC....thanks.....cheers.......+

[arkadian2920]

please fix the negative balance thing!! otherwise respect on some good work and I hope to resolve it in the resolution centre.

[quantummods]

Defcon is such a dick, he says message him about negative balance that I've had since january 9th yet he don't reply or do anything about it (I pgp'd the message)

If he can't sort this out I want him to send my 0.22 worth of btc I have had sitting in limbo since january 9th to my external wallet


SORT IT OUT DEFCON

[Artist]

Defcon is such a dick, he says message him about negative balance that I've had since january 9th yet he don't reply or do anything about it (I pgp'd the message)

If he can't sort this out I want him to send my 0.22 worth of btc I have had sitting in limbo since january 9th to my external wallet


SORT IT OUT DEFCON

Have you tried messaging any of the other Staff? If the other staff have enough priviliged access to fix this sort of issue then Defcon would literally be the worst person to message to have this fixed. If other staff are capable you would be much better off asking them.

Artist

[charliethefrog]

Great, Now everyone can stop crying like they have sand in their vagina.

I wish i had sand in my vagina... it would be alot more comfortable then what ive been going through... I cant even advertise my product on other markets that actually allow me to sell my product without the mods marking it as spam.... they go for days at a time without a single word on the vendor issue but as soon as you advertise a place where people can actually buy your product, its edited and removed within minutes.. please get your priorities  straight, and I prey to jesus this new support system can fix my account within 24 hours... which is what I originally prayed for over a fucking week ago

Thank you for your time and consideration

Just think about what you’re complaining about. I’m sure you have a right to complain since you put your hard earned money into something expecting to make a return. But check this, you are most likely selling something that is illegal to the people who are willing to buy it over the internet. I’m not sure enough people can explain this. Be grateful you have a reason to complain about something, I guess you could just be stuck selling out of your car. Or your other markets.

I cant even advertise my product on other markets that actually allow me to sell my product without the mods marking it as spam.... they go for days at a time without a single word on the vendor issue but as soon as you advertise a place where people can actually buy your product, its edited and removed within minutes..

Also I think the reason I am so fustrated with these issues is because what a joke this seems to be compared to SR1... I was expecting this market to be just as good or better only to be bitterly disappointed.. If it wasn't for the overwhelming amount of people constantly complaining, then  I am not sure they would be putting as much effort into fixing these problems, and improving support in the future.. I am just part of the large group saying this is unacceptable from SR and people will move to alternative markets if these problems are not addressed and taken seriously... what you are saying isn't wrong, its just to sides of a story i think

[lightshinesthrough]

how about releasing usefull features first so you can decrease the amount of tickets instead of prioritizing useless features ?

why are these pseudo features always invisible to it s users ?

you were meant to explain in depth whats this new support system is all about? where is that explanation?

the dispute resolution center was supposed to be in testing for weeks,so why does it take a fucking month to release it?

you ve scheduled exact dates for all these features,that means you though you d make it in time right?so why do we have to wait another fucking 3 weeks?why lie to the community?

honestly stop wanking each other ,

If your local shop is closed or has anything going on later than it should do you go in there and start ranting like a child? Just because The Silk Road team hasn't given you an explanation of exactly what's going on doesn't mean they are lying to you. Can you still get quality drugs through your letterbox? Yes? Then quiet down and be gratefull!

Thanks Defcon and team. Keep up the good work!

Yeah this guy is the poster boy for kids with no life...  Moonlight - you are not entitled to anything here. All you do is moan...  go elsewhere please...  you will be happier and so will be others... 
People like Moonlight really make the forum these days annoying to enter, nothing to give except to cry all over ... Jesus ...

And Defcon - Great to see an update. Small steps , but I'm sure a month from now things will be looking lot better.  Where does all these negative people then go  ?    Maybe buy drugs instead of all the bitching...or maybe not, maybe all they really know how to do is whine all over ...
 

[trencher]

UPDATE: Pushed back a few hours to 15:00 to ensure that all of the dev team is online during the launch, and because one of your admins is very hungover. Good morning cruel world.

The team has been working very hard behind the scenes to keep deposits/withdrawals flowing quickly, and to continue scaling our infrastructure in ways that still preserve security.

We are now ready to launch two important changes to the marketplace:
1. New Support System - Staff has had access to an incredible new support interface for over a week now, and after security test results we have decided that it is safe to continue the rollout to marketplace customers. You may notice a new response from staff which you did not previously see. This is not a bug, it is a symptom of staff testing the new interface by responding to you before launch.

IMPORTANT: In order to help staff resolve the massive support backlog as quickly as possible, we are marking all issues over seven days old as resolved. This does not mean we are ignoring you. If you are affected by this, simply open the support request and add a new message. This will re-open the request. This might seem like a strange approach, but it will allow our staff to focus on actually resolving issues rather than sending hundreds of "Does this issue still exist?" responses.

2. CAPTCHA Improvement - We have rewritten the CAPTCHA system, resolving a bug affecting login and registration.

Staff appreciates your support as we have been heads-down writing and testing these updates.

I will update this post when the launch is complete.

Hey Defcon,
Thanks for the update but a quick suggestion just for visibility.

When scrolling through the forum and seeing a post that just says "Planned Downtime" I don't necessarily think the post will also contain important updates on the CAPTCHA and Support systems; I just think it will have further information about the planned maintenance. While these updates are most likely going to be implemented during the downtime and it makes sense to include them in this post - at least for me - I didn't think I was going to find that kind of information based solely on the subject line.

Maybe add something like "+ CAPTCHA and Support Systems Update?" Just so people are aware that these issues are being addressed in this thread. Something to consider, I could be wrong.

Otherwise great job and thanks for the info.

[redalloverthenet]

We got to look at the positives.

We can still buy things online and have them delivered, pretty fast, faster than Amazon with some UK vendors and reliable with EU vendors, who take more time but we still see that enveope on the doormat which is a ticket to ride!

Silk Road is getting better.

Moaning at things is hardly going to inspire anyone. We had some guy in our works who moaned about everything, ended up with a welder kicking his moaning ass. Since then he has been great. No trouble.

He left the next day.

 

[Wakeside917]

Pushed up earlier instead of delayed more?  Fucks yea, things are moving in the right direction! +1 Defcon

[Cornelius23]

Pushed up earlier instead of delayed more?  Fucks yea, things are moving in the right direction! +1 Defcon

Well... delayed by four hours.

[Wakeside917]

O (embarassed).  I thought it was originally later than that.  My bad.

[Heisenberg-meds]

Just a small request
Could you update the title so we don't have to read the post to check status?

Just something like "Planned Downtime: Jan 28th 15:00-16:00 UTC [in effect now]"
and later "Planned Downtime: Jan 28th 15:00-16:00 UTC [finished]"

or if you need more time
"Planned Downtime: Jan 28th 15:00-17:00 UTC [extended]"

A small thing yes, but i like to just have a fast overview in the forums

[Cheese on Toast]

Site is still up?

[subtickle]

Very glad about this.

[parryparrot]

hope to see you again on the road

[daddybee]

We got to look at the positives.

We can still buy things online and have them delivered, pretty fast, faster than Amazon with some UK vendors and reliable with EU vendors, who take more time but we still see that enveope on the doormat which is a ticket to ride!

Silk Road is getting better.

very true  +1

[PhilipJFry]

Defcon is such a dick, he says message him about negative balance that I've had since january 9th yet he don't reply or do anything about it (I pgp'd the message)

If he can't sort this out I want him to send my 0.22 worth of btc I have had sitting in limbo since january 9th to my external wallet


SORT IT OUT DEFCON

Don't forget to check if your support request is included in the support system once it gets operational and to mark it as unresolved if it is there. Apparently all support requests older than a week have been marked as resolved by SR.

[CaptainWhiteBeard]

We got to look at the positives.

We can still buy things online and have them delivered, pretty fast, faster than Amazon with some UK vendors and reliable with EU vendors, who take more time but we still see that enveope on the doormat which is a ticket to ride!

Silk Road is getting better.

very true  +1

Haha love your avater bee! Calcium i presume?

Yes people forget that WE CAN MOTHERFUCKING BUY ANY DRUG ONLINE AND GET IT POSTED TO OUR HOUSE FUCK YEAH!

very true  +1

[Brucewaynescat11]

Can yous please restore my account to vendor? i think im the only one still left waiting

[Tang]

Can yous please restore my account to vendor? i think im the only one still left waiting

Have you paid the vendor bond again?

[Wakeside917]

Holding on to faith Defcon.  I'm looking forward to tomorrow.  Cant wait to get this lockout finally fixed.

[Brucewaynescat11]

Can yous please restore my account to vendor? i think im the only one still left waiting

Have you paid the vendor bond again?

Yep

[TragicallyHip]

I really hope it is tomorrow...if I remember correctly this was originally scheduled for December 30th? Then early January? Now the 28th?
...............
oh sorry now the 29th!



Anyword on how long that means till the resolution centre will be released? I don't want or need an exact date, but will it be more like a week, a month, a year? I just want to know when I'll get those funds stuck in escrow.......

It is safe to assume that this support system is completely different from the resolution centre, and autofinalize is not being turned on, correct?

[Sulliasi]

Things are looking up

[r0guebubbles]

nice work defcon and thanks for the updates

[deathowl1990]

You go, girls! Keep up the good work!

[Aphos]

Perhaps I'll be able to log in again after the update. Hurrah!

[badoo1]

nice one defcon
glad to hear from you

hope everything goes as intended.

[goblin]

Things are looking up

Only because we have sunk so low...

[arkadian2920]

captcha is looking good, can we fix the negative balance thing now?

[spaced out]

I've never once complained about how the site was running with the bugs, they didn't bother me too much and I didn't want the SR staff getting more abuse when we all know they are working extremely hard on fixing these errors, I mean, this site is revolutionary! And only a handful of people have the know-how and are willing to take the risk for us loyal buyers to keep this ship afloat. So I say kudos and many thanks to the SR team as the site certainly seems to be leveling out nicely now

Keep up the good work shipmates!

[spaced out]

One thing that I would really like to see though is buyer stats and a resolution centre in place like the old SR but that's low priority so once the major bugs are sorted that's another thing I would work on.

[stackinRINGS]

Thanks defcon

[Cheese on Toast]

Has the update been done then? what happened to the 17.00 - 17.30 downtime?

[CaptainWhiteBeard]

Has the update been done then? what happened to the 17.00 - 17.30 downtime?

I just had you for my tea

[Wakeside917]

Did the update happen?  Not trying to be a dick, I'm just excited for it.

[Cheese on Toast]

Has the update been done then? what happened to the 17.00 - 17.30 downtime?

I just had you for my tea

you know i was sat here wondering what to make of this comment... then i slapped myself hard in the face, looked at my name / avatar ... and then finally clocked on.

 

[FoamFollower]

Has the update been done then? what happened to the 17.00 - 17.30 downtime?

I just had you for my tea

you know i was sat here wondering what to make of this comment... then i slapped myself hard in the face, looked at my name / avatar ... and then finally clocked on.

 

I'm glad you posted that, I just read it and said to myself "ok, that was weird and random". LOL

I'm currently getting the working on server message.

Edit: Never mind. Got in just now.

[badoo1]

Has the update been done then? what happened to the 17.00 - 17.30 downtime?

I just had you for my tea

you know i was sat here wondering what to make of this comment... then i slapped myself hard in the face, looked at my name / avatar ... and then finally clocked on.

 

LOL

[chemicals_spain]

I trust in the safety equipment, are charging me an 8% rate of each sale, they fix it soon

[Kazma]

just wanted to say:

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!

[TragicallyHip]

I really hope it is tomorrow...if I remember correctly this was originally scheduled for December 30th? Then early January? Now the 28th?
...............
oh sorry now the 29th!



Anyword on how long that means till the resolution centre will be released? I don't want or need an exact date, but will it be more like a week, a month, a year? I just want to know when I'll get those funds stuck in escrow.......

It is safe to assume that this support system is completely different from the resolution centre, and autofinalize is not being turned on, correct?

Oh I see now it has been pushed to the 29th. Regardless of that. any answers as to whether or not AF is being implemented with this. It is safe to assume it is not right? Because the resolution centre is a different feature from the support center??

[the fisherman]

yep you would need a resolution center be4 they can turn on escrow again i presume ... hope :-) anything worth while takes time an all the delays will be well worth the wait :-)




sure true luv never runs smooth

[JuicyMango]

I really hope it is tomorrow...if I remember correctly this was originally scheduled for December 30th? Then early January? Now the 28th?
...............
oh sorry now the 29th!



Anyword on how long that means till the resolution centre will be released? I don't want or need an exact date, but will it be more like a week, a month, a year? I just want to know when I'll get those funds stuck in escrow.......

It is safe to assume that this support system is completely different from the resolution centre, and autofinalize is not being turned on, correct?

Oh I see now it has been pushed to the 29th. Regardless of that. any answers as to whether or not AF is being implemented with this. It is safe to assume it is not right? Because the resolution centre is a different feature from the support center??

Exactly. I'm not a vendor but I have strong reason to believe you won't see AF implemented anytime soon. None of the dev's have mentioned it or even hinted to it.

[Ziggy]

Hopefully this is the beginning of the end of our problems.   

[AfricanCanadianBrotha]

thank you guys for the update much love to all of you at the road staff and thank yoou for all the hard work you guys do

[dabber419]

This site is nothing short of a spectical of awesomeness.. I dought i spelled that right but ....

Thanks to all who are making this possible. The vendors, buyers, fans, and onlookers are all here right beside you....and were not gona go away.....
Peace and Love....

Long Live SR2.0

[V]

Thank you all for your continued support.

This site is nothing short of a spectical of awesomeness.. I dought i spelled that right but ....

We all know what you mean, don't worry. But for the record, it's spectacle.

V

[Wakeside917]

V do you know if the update is still happening today?

[moonlight]

I don t get why you guys want this release so bad?

captcha,well not a big deal

support  ,how is this gonna sort any issues?AF is disabled until resolution center implementation,so support is pretty useless until then.

same goes for the negative balance .and other bugs.

defcon hasn t mentionned anything that could be sorted with this release,so why are you getting so excited??

their sense of priority is messed up, SR holds up people s money for more than a month now ,vendors aren t getting paid and you folks are licking them more than ever,what is that? are you happy with the current situation ?stop arse licking for god sake,save your DPR fans comment when the team actualy deserves it.

[badoo1]

I have been scammed by a vendor 1 month ago,this vendor is now banned ,I havn t FE and have £450 stuck in escrow for over a month now.

that s fucked up! please sort this asap,I m not rich and need this money badly.

we r basically paying the staff 8% to have our money on hold, not cool

[Wakeside917]

I don t get why you guys want this release so bad?

captcha,well not a big deal

support  ,how is this gonna sort any issues?AF is disabled until resolution center implementation,so support is pretty useless until then.

same goes for the negative balance .and other bugs.

defcon hasn t mentionned anything that could be sorted with this release,so why are you getting so excited??

their sense of priority is messed up, SR holds up people s money for more than a month now ,vendors aren t getting paid and you folks are licking them more than ever,what is that? are you happy with the current situation ?stop arse licking for god sake,save your DPR fans comment when the team actualy deserves it.

Support on the main site would help with lockouts.  I've been locked out for 2 months.  I'm very much looking forward to this release.

[Cornelius23]

I don t get why you guys want this release so bad?

captcha,well not a big deal

A great many people, both buyers and vendors, have been complaining about not being to log in to the market. The captcha bug appears to be the main cause of this.

same goes for the negative balance .and other bugs.

Again, the inability to access funds because of negative balances is something that many people have expressed exasperation and anger about.

[dr gonzo]

Thank you for the updates.

[thesoloist]

WHEN WE GONNA GET AUTO - FINALIZE....

[r0guebubbles]

Thanks for the update defcon

[AndromedaVendor]

I don't usually complain. In fact, I don't think I ever have.
However,

and because one of your admins is very hungover. Good morning cruel world.

THAT. Is COMPLETELY unacceptable.
You are our captian, and you are supposed to lead by good example, umong other things.

If every staff and vendor here got drunk or high and hungover and could not preform their duties, what would happen to silk road?

If the CEO of a corporation the size of silk road showed up hungover to work in the midst of a crisis, what would its employees think? What would happen to the company?


All I'm saying is things like that should be a matter of extreme discretion.

[Cornelius23]

In other words, drugs are bad, m'kay?

[TragicallyHip]

Why do "alll dev staff" have to be online to launch this once it's already been developed?

Who wants to wager with me,

I put 10 microdots that it gets postponed again. Any takers?

[Munson]

Why do "alll dev staff" have to be online to launch this once it's already been developed?

Who wants to wager with me,

I put 10 microdots that it gets postponed again. Any takers?

Not me. I don't have 10 microdots to give away

[Praetorian]

Why do "alll dev staff" have to be online to launch this once it's already been developed?

Who wants to wager with me,

I put 10 microdots that it gets postponed again. Any takers?

Bet.

[WhiteAce]

I have been scammed by a vendor 1 month ago,this vendor is now banned ,I havn t FE and have £450 stuck in escrow for over a month now.

that s fucked up! please sort this asap,I m not rich and need this money badly.

we r basically paying the staff 8% to have our money on hold, not cool

yea not cool

[TragicallyHip]

....isn't it past january 30th utc time?

[whomp]

...i will be like a kid at christmas if i log onto my account and i see my wallet balance is correct!

[TragicallyHip]

Hello.
Is there anybody there?

Am I going to get bitched at for pointing out it's past January 30th?

[TragicallyHip]

And this folks is how the staff and their friends respond when you want to know why delays have been ongoing since December....

they don't address the problem at all.

This update is not going to help me, BTW, Green-Machine.

The captcha issue, negative balances, rampant scammers, and everything else is affecting customers and this update is supposed to help with that. I ee posts all day long, customers who are out hundreds, some thousands of dollars. Scammers that were allowed to sit here for a long time, even though they were known about....

You can ridicule me all you want, but some people really see beyond the constant excuses this place has given



edit: for instance : here is a simple idea that I just saw in a customer thread . update the market home page and put a notice or link to the forums and say "there is a lot of finalize early scams going on right now, please double check the forum for vendor reviews as well as the marketplace"
 
This would take a few minutes to implement and could help curb problems..if there is some kind of security breach that could come out of editing the home page text, then please elaborate me  ..................... everyone just shuts everyone else down, tells them to fuck off, makes weird sexual references about horses or something (thats you ) and whatever else they can spew...

No answers though, just flaming

[Aphos]

So...are we looking at the 31st? Later?

[TragicallyHip]

While the community is not really trying to embrace a sink or swim approach, you seem very new to all of this and dont seem to understand that these things that are going on are the same things that always go on, and always have been going on.

Scammers will scam no matter how much moderation and regulation. Yes, there are ways to address a lot of it, and those are being considered/developed.

I've always been a karmic stand up fellow who belives in positive business ethics, and I feel poorly for those who got suckered in, but while I may be a positive guy, I have a natural self defense mechnaism when it comes to these markets which involves making rational less-risky decisions.

If your irrational enough to send a money card with the pin without putting the order in escrow, then you're going to learn a difficult but needed lesson. I've been burned here many times in the past, but each time I get burned I learn how to work better and safer around the pitfalls.

And on top of that these scammers get immediate negative feedback. If you are not even bothering to read feedback your just beyond lazy.

What you are ignoring is the fact that they ARE working on these things, and they ARE a priority and they ARE going to roll the changes out very soon. Your complaint every 6-12 hours on the subject does not resolve anything and only makes you come across as overwrought with emotion. Recall that your emotion does not have a constructive place in this picture. The things are already developed or in the process of being tweaked. Your emotion does not change the need for security. You seem very young and are not considering the technical nature and the amount of time/manpower needed to run a organization of this size.

In short, Chill out.

I haven't made any posts regarding these releases in a while, and patiently was awaiting this one thinking finally they might actually have something ready.

As far as the scam goes - the reason the scams are so rampant right now isb ecause people are faking feedback like crazy. Thats why I suggested telling buyers to use the forums, a vendor can't fake his feedback as easily on the forums.

Problem is, most buyers don't use the forums, which is why I thought my suggestion (which was a forwarding of a buyers suggestion) was a good idea

But again, you have avoided that altogether, told me everything is being worked on, and to chill out.
 I'm done now, but this again, is why we get no where with staff.

[Mr. Chill]

 
   Did someone say Chill?

[heisenbud]

What's going on? Where is DEAFCONT?

[FrenchFries]

How about everyone calms their tits, eh? This is NOT Amzon.

This is the hardest site to run on the planet. Give him some time. Be happy he even gives you a timeframe....

[DoctorClu]

OP updated.

[daddybee]

thanks for the update

[Wakeside917]

Thanks DoctorClu.  Hopefully that bug does not take too long to fix.  I'm very much looking forward to new support.

[Klaymen]

Hopefully, AF will be re-enabled ASAP. I need my funds to continue vending!

[Unbekannt]

Thanks for keeping us updated. Hopefully the problems will be resolved in the near future.

[JuicyMango]

Well at least we don't have to deal with the captcha bug anymore; that shit was extremely frustrating.

Getting the full Support UI implemented is going to be huge; I'm sure a wave of relief will run over people who have old (1 week+) support tickets laying in the database.

[peanut99123]

Nice! Thanks dudes!
Peace

Peanut

[thesoloist]

Hopefully, AF will be re-enabled ASAP. I need my funds to continue vending!

Hate to bitch but when is Auto-Finalize coming....i got alot of orders sitting in escrow

[AfricanCanadianBrotha]

UPDATE 5: The new CAPTCHA system has been implemented, resolving the affected login failures.The support UI integration is almost complete as well. Our latest test pass in our offline environment revealed that while placing tickets older than seven days into a "Resolved" status, the system would occasionally throw an error which gets placed into the ticket and caused it to re-open all those it had processed.

We are troubleshooting the root cause of the error as we speak. Once that is found/rectified, we will attempt another sync and implement it into production. Apologies for yet another delay, but once complete, support will be able to respond quicker than at any point in Silk Road's history.

UPDATE 4: The hardening took more hours than expected, the dev team has delivered the improved code to the security team but they are still in the process of testing it. We apologize for the delays getting this out. This fix to the new release was essential and could not be postponed. Our next opportunity to release is in ~10-14 hours with all dev staff online. Will update here when we know the exact time.

UPDATE 3: Launch is unlikely for the 28th, our security team just raised a very valid concern. We are playing it safe, hardening code, then will be launching on the 29th. Staff apologies for the delays, we prioritize security above features no matter how long-awaited they are.

UPDATE 2: A server update is taking longer than expected. Rather than be offline for more than an hour, we are pushing back the window again. As a result of this update the downtime will only be thirty minutes, and will start at 17:00 UTC.

UPDATE: Pushed back a few hours to 15:00 to ensure that all of the dev team is online during the launch, and because one of your admins is very hungover. Good morning cruel world.

The team has been working very hard behind the scenes to keep deposits/withdrawals flowing quickly, and to continue scaling our infrastructure in ways that still preserve security.

We are now ready to launch two important changes to the marketplace:
1. New Support System - Staff has had access to an incredible new support interface for over a week now, and after security test results we have decided that it is safe to continue the rollout to marketplace customers. You may notice a new response from staff which you did not previously see. This is not a bug, it is a symptom of staff testing the new interface by responding to you before launch.

IMPORTANT: In order to help staff resolve the massive support backlog as quickly as possible, we are marking all issues over seven days old as resolved. This does not mean we are ignoring you. If you are affected by this, simply open the support request and add a new message. This will re-open the request. This might seem like a strange approach, but it will allow our staff to focus on actually resolving issues rather than sending hundreds of "Does this issue still exist?" responses.

2. CAPTCHA Improvement - We have rewritten the CAPTCHA system, resolving a bug affecting login and registration.

Staff appreciates your support as we have been heads-down writing and testing these updates.

I will update this post when the launch is complete.

some positive i was able to long on the last 2 days without capthca problem thank you guys for hard work  hope u guys feel apperciated

[Empire]

I dont think i will bother selling anymore until AF is implemented. I dont feel like giving away my top notch products and watching my funds grow in some imaginary account that i cant touch.

[smokealote]

UPDATE 5: The new CAPTCHA system has been implemented, resolving the affected login failures.The support UI integration is almost complete as well. Our latest test pass in our offline environment revealed that while placing tickets older than seven days into a "Resolved" status, the system would occasionally throw an error which gets placed into the ticket and caused it to re-open all those it had processed.

We are troubleshooting the root cause of the error as we speak. Once that is found/rectified, we will attempt another sync and implement it into production. Apologies for yet another delay, but once complete, support will be able to respond quicker than at any point in Silk Road's history.

Always good to hear from you bro

[reiji]

What's amazing is SR2 is steadily progressing, but seeing that is still not enough for some people. They want SR to hold their fucking hands and explain every little thing they do when they have absolutely no obligation to do so. SR1 would go down for days without updates or warnings. You're lucky the admins have updated us as well as they have thus far. The constant bitching even after SR2 has come through again and again and done nothing but progress (albeit slowly) since it started is getting really annoying.

See the guy above me. He wants to know when auto-finalize is coming back. SR hasn't said anything about auto-finalize recently (I think) but they said in the past that it would be re-enabled once the resolution center was in place, which is what makes the most logical sense. But people just can't make that connection. They want to be told directly from SR staff about every little detail otherwise they think they're being ignored. Do people honestly think the resolution center is coming but auto-finalize isn't? That makes no fucking sense. Here they are, working hard to give you guys exactly what you want, and it's still not enough.

I'm done bitching about the bitching now though.

Thanks SR staff for the updates.

[magicbox]

Can everyone confirme the captcha issue is fixed? I've just experienced it twice through the vendor URL. I do not think our vendor URL changes anything but I would appreciate hearing feedback from the community for confirmation on this resolved issue.

Thanks!

EDIT -

My thoughts are that the way the new system is written, I do not believe it is possible to right click 'view image' to preview the 'correct' captcha and then click back to type it. I think that it generates a new captcha upon the 'view image' and then clicking back does not allow you to use that same captcha. Still want more feedback however

I am still experiencing the captcha bug,got finally in after 6th attempts

[Wakeside917]

Captcha seems alot easier.  Though I'm much more looking forward to the support release.  I remain confident that Defcon and gang will not let us down.

[DoctorClu]

You guys might still experience a few failures as the new captcha system is tweaked.

[Dutch-Passion]

You guys might still experience a few failures as the new captcha system is tweaked.

Yea, I did had some trouble with that, but after the third try, it worked.

[lightshinesthrough]

What's amazing is SR2 is steadily progressing, but seeing that is still not enough for some people. They want SR to hold their fucking hands and explain every little thing they do when they have absolutely no obligation to do so. SR1 would go down for days without updates or warnings. You're lucky the admins have updated us as well as they have thus far. The constant bitching even after SR2 has come through again and again and done nothing but progress (albeit slowly) since it started is getting really annoying.

See the guy above me. He wants to know when auto-finalize is coming back. SR hasn't said anything about auto-finalize recently (I think) but they said in the past that it would be re-enabled once the resolution center was in place, which is what makes the most logical sense. But people just can't make that connection. They want to be told directly from SR staff about every little detail otherwise they think they're being ignored. Do people honestly think the resolution center is coming but auto-finalize isn't? That makes no fucking sense. Here they are, working hard to give you guys exactly what you want, and it's still not enough.

I'm done bitching about the bitching now though.

Thanks SR staff for the updates.

+1

Refreshing to see someone vent off some for the same reasons which make spend less time these days on these forums. The amount of people who feel they are 'entitled' to this and that puzzles me...

Good to hear things are moving on ... And yeah Resolution Center coming will surely be followed soon with AF . I guess the issue is just getting all tickets handled and for what it sounds it ain't going to take all that long ... 

[WickedWords]

I don't usually complain. In fact, I don't think I ever have.
However,

and because one of your admins is very hungover. Good morning cruel world.

THAT. Is COMPLETELY unacceptable.
You are our captian, and you are supposed to lead by good example, umong other things.

If every staff and vendor here got drunk or high and hungover and could not preform their duties, what would happen to silk road?

If the CEO of a corporation the size of silk road showed up hungover to work in the midst of a crisis, what would its employees think? What would happen to the company?

All I'm saying is things like that should be a matter of extreme discretion.

Saw this when it was posted, didn't have time to respond.

Are you mad? Are you ACTUALLY saying that Defcon isn't allowed to get drunk?

Haha. Ha!

Sorry, but that's just too rich. It's like saying: "This dude is working his ass off to help us find our freedom... let's stop him having his own!"

Fuck though man, it's not even that - you're telling him to lead by example by not getting high or drunk or whatever. On a site that sells intoxicating substances!

So, if Defcon stayed sober to lead by example, and we all followed that example... where would the market be? There wouldn't be one because we'd all be fucking sober!

/Rant

[WickedWords]

You guys might still experience a few failures as the new captcha system is tweaked.

Nope. No failures for me so far today.

Cheers team!

[anontoker]

Logged in just fine a few minutes ago.

Thanks Team SR.

[panoramic]

No captcha failures here, either. It was a small nuisance for us, but appreciate its being fixed. Very much looking forward to seeing the new resolution system going live, and the diligence of the dev and testing teams is greatly appreciated.

What many here fail to realize is that developing good, SECURE software (which MUST be priority #1 in a darknet marketplace) takes considerable time and effort. Writing the code is the easy part; the hard part is breaking down and unit-testing every single piece of that software and rigorously trying to break it. So that the testers find and the coders fix those bugs before they ever are exposed to the live marketplace where an exploit could be disastrous.

Have patience. We all have gripes and there are some VERY serious issues which need to be addressed (autofinalize), and features which must be implemented ASAP (buyer stats, etc.) But more than that I thank the devs and testers for your diligence. Keep it up.

[Still_Loading]

Thank you Defcon and all other Admin for your hard work and dedication to our security!

[magicbox]

thanks and keep up the good work.

[moondog65]

Thanks Defcon and once again the entire SR staff for all their hard work trying to keep us safe.

[AfricanCanadianBrotha]

You guys might still experience a few failures as the new captcha system is tweaked.

its all gravy thank you guy for working on it im sure we would rather have it being tweak and you working on it rather then to leave the problem be

[TragicallyHip]

To whoever still somehow thinks this is the resolution centre being implemented. IT IS NOT.

It is different, seperate, it is the support centre, and does not involve resolving order disputes, auto finalization, or anything of that matter.

Well it sure will be a big help to anyone who needs support, I really tired of seeeing people posting here "so excited to see the resolution centre going in"

Well its not. This isn't it.

It's past january 31 here...gguess it got postponed again

[CaliforniaCannabis]

Still having problems......tried 15 times and still not able to get in.

[JustAnon]

Much worse than before. I tried a few dozen times or so, always saying the captcha is wrong.

[multi_exciter]

Same here, can't login whatever I do

[Empire]

What's amazing is SR2 is steadily progressing, but seeing that is still not enough for some people. They want SR to hold their fucking hands and explain every little thing they do when they have absolutely no obligation to do so. SR1 would go down for days without updates or warnings. You're lucky the admins have updated us as well as they have thus far. The constant bitching even after SR2 has come through again and again and done nothing but progress (albeit slowly) since it started is getting really annoying.

See the guy above me. He wants to know when auto-finalize is coming back. SR hasn't said anything about auto-finalize recently (I think) but they said in the past that it would be re-enabled once the resolution center was in place, which is what makes the most logical sense. But people just can't make that connection. They want to be told directly from SR staff about every little detail otherwise they think they're being ignored. Do people honestly think the resolution center is coming but auto-finalize isn't? That makes no fucking sense. Here they are, working hard to give you guys exactly what you want, and it's still not enough.

I'm done bitching about the bitching now though.

Thanks SR staff for the updates.

At least man up and say my name when you speak about me and guess what, if your annoyed do something about it!! Thats right you cant so shut your whole and unless youve got money stuck in escrow i dont want to hear your skinny junky ass speak about me again...BITCH!!

[backwards]

i don't understand,what's going on.The Captcha is worst than before the updates.I'm really don't get it what's going on with this ghost site.I'm afraid who is behind all this

[goodv1bes]

For those having the captcha error and not being able to log in.. keep trying! I'm getting it as well but after 5 or 6 attempts I got in.

I'm sure the SR team will get on it soon! No need to complain, just let them know. There are more important things at hand, like, um, maintaining anonymity!

Peace & Love

[supershred]

Much worse than before. I tried a few dozen times or so, always saying the captcha is wrong.

This. I got in fine this morning but now even after 10 attempts I can't get in - unsure why this is such a difficult issue to fix?

[badoo1]

 I logged in every time on 1st attempt when accessing the site through the redirect link on the forum.

If I enter url ,takes 6/7 attempt.

hope this can help a few.

[Oxytocin]

Also still having problems

[TragicallyHip]

just took me five log-ins

I've noticed one thing and would love if a moderator/admin/developer could chime in....Agora marketplace seems to run very functionally, and it has no captcha system at all.

Is there a reason we can't just scrap the captcha and have just a login username/password? Does it have to do with ddos attacks or something I'm not aware of?

Also, one other thing I noticed, is that on silk road marketplace, I can log in, using either Tragicallyhip, TragicallyHip, tragicallyhip  .... etc.

Caps don't affect the username at all. At agora or pandora marketplace, your username needs to be capitalized the same way as when you made the account.

Why does this not happen here? I mean it may only be a small thing but that seems like something that could add security to me? If someone was bruteforcing etc?

No?

[CAGIVA25001]

Took me 8 attempts to log in this site is going to shitt to be fair nothing getting sorted I have mail Suppport have 5 times and no answer as to where my coins have disappear too.

[WickedWords]

There's actually an independent .onion forum set up to find links to and to discuss various other markets:

thehubaoydxrommh.onion

It's run by a gentleman (Alfred)

[parisproject]

been trying to log in for almost an hour now,this is ridiculous.

[WickedWords]

I too am having problems again.

been trying to log in for almost an hour now,this is ridiculous.

Have you tried right clicking the captcha, viewing image, and using the image it displays instead of the one embedded on the login page? Increases success rate I think.

[Empire]

Mine works 1st time everytime.

[FrenchFries]

The site loads INCREDIBLY fast now and the captcha works first time without fail.

Are you still having problems?

[anontoker]

Hey you guys and gals in the background, yeah you.

Just thought I'd stop by and thank you for all you've done for us here.

Not an ass kiss joke, just thanks.

[Headhunter]

I am still having issues with this.

[john_one]

Took me 7 or 8 tries this morning.
So it's not working completely flawless yet.

[charliethefrog]

I too am having problems again.

been trying to log in for almost an hour now,this is ridiculous.

Have you tried right clicking the captcha, viewing image, and using the image it displays instead of the one embedded on the login page? Increases success rate I think.

i tried that... still didnt work until i got a captcha which was the same as the original image... is this meant to be fixed? i dont think they did a very good job if so

[iplaynaked]

Site is a bit slow but I have no issues logging in.

[nicedayproject]

no idea why any of you are thanking the team because I have yet to see any progress being made except updates to the post.

[TheRealCynic]

no idea why any of you are thanking the team because I have yet to see any progress being made except updates to the post.

+1
Yeah they are looking for a reach around for kissing arse unduly.

[heisenbud]

......................................................@............................................................

[KingSolomon]

Still took me 5 attempts to login just now.

[anontoker]

no idea why any of you are thanking the team because I have yet to see any progress being made except updates to the post.

+1
Yeah they are looking for a reach around for kissing arse unduly.

Was funny. +1.

Just now took me at least four login attempts. So it isn't perfect. I got a 25 character password and I'll be fucked if I haven't almost got it memmed. Except for now I'm baked all the time so instead of my password, I type "PENIS". That never works.

[worth-strut]

Captcha has improved Isn't perfect yet but it's better. Not too bothered if i have a couple of failed log in attempts before getting on

[Quarterto9]

Cant log in. I right clicked the captch to view it and it's different to the one displayed. typing both still doesn't get me in.

[FrenchFries]

Refresh the page or load the redirect from the forum. I login succesfully EVERY time.

[V]

no idea why any of you are thanking the team because I have yet to see any progress being made except updates to the post.

+1
Yeah they are looking for a reach around for kissing arse unduly.

I only offer the shafting. No reach arounds, sorry.

V

[WeeAxSR]

You tell him V lol

[TheRealCynic]

no idea why any of you are thanking the team because I have yet to see any progress being made except updates to the post.

+1
Yeah they are looking for a reach around for kissing arse unduly.

I only offer the shafting. No reach arounds, sorry.

V

Hmm sounds like solicitation to me.
A shafting aye.
Hmm.
I am in.
You guys are tops man.
Doing a great job.
keep it up.

[TragicallyHip]

no idea why any of you are thanking the team because I have yet to see any progress being made except updates to the post.

+1
Yeah they are looking for a reach around for kissing arse unduly.

I only offer the shafting. No reach arounds, sorry.

V

Do you have any quality responses for the numerous problems that have been brought up in just the past two days of this thread? We're now way past January 28th, when it was originally supposed to be released (the support center). Now we're two days past January 31, the third update update we were given....yeah

There's tons of people posting here saying the captcha is still broken. Even one of the users you quoted asked what is going on around here.

Your response was to the sexual referencing and thats it. Seriously?

Is this the kind of updates we get around here? Yeah it is.

[anontoker]

no idea why any of you are thanking the team because I have yet to see any progress being made except updates to the post.

+1
Yeah they are looking for a reach around for kissing arse unduly.

I only offer the shafting. No reach arounds, sorry.

V

Awww C'mon V, you are the only mod I haven't fucked with...sarc

[V]

+1
Yeah they are looking for a reach around for kissing arse unduly.

I only offer the shafting. No reach arounds, sorry.

V

Do you have any quality responses for the numerous problems that have been brought up in just the past two days of this thread? We're now way past January 28th, when it was originally supposed to be released (the support center). Now we're two days past January 31, the third update update we were given....yeah

There's tons of people posting here saying the captcha is still broken. Even one of the users you quoted asked what is going on around here.

Your response was to the sexual referencing and thats it. Seriously?

Is this the kind of updates we get around here? Yeah it is.

By responding to the complaints I would only be repeating what has already been said. Any new information that we feel would be helpful to the public is announced; announcing it twice would not serve any purpose.

I realize that these issues are irritating.

But the staff have already informed the community of all relevant updates, and is it not better that I show my presence, albeit in a light-hearted manner, than stay completely silent?

If my attempt to keep spirits somewhat elevated is not appreciated during this difficult round of feature updates, bug fixes and support implementation, then I can only apologize.

As you can see, the captcha bug is slowly being fixed; support implementation is taking longer than anticipated as security remains, as ever, our number one priority.

What else would you like me to say?

V

[TheRealCynic]

V!
You promised me a shafting!
I got all hot and bothered and for what?

[trava]

where im from shafting implies your screwing someone over

[TheRealCynic]

where im from shafting implies your screwing someone over

Same same.
You get what your given around here mate...

[Entrepreniggeur]

"What else would you like me to say?"   

  Well V, I think what we want, is for you to NOT say anything and start DOING.  The administration of this site reminds me of the Obama administration.  You're all so quick to blame this or that, but never turn the looking glass on yourselves or take responsibility for any issues whatsoever. 

   Your constant excuses of "security this" and "security that" play like a broken record and people are truly sick of you serving us horse shit and calling it caviar.  How dare any of you take commissions from this defunct website.  That alone tells me that the whole lot of you are up to something.....something other than actually fixing any problems.

    Do you think anyone here who's familiar with code writing buys the bullshit you guys are spreading?  I could write a captcha code in the time it takes to drink a cup of coffee.  Any coder could.

   Those of us who are capable of critical thinking know damned well that the true problem is that the current administration are just a bunch of wannabes who are in way over their heads but are too immatuer to actually admit it.   How many times can a leader lie to underlings before insurrection ensues?  About as long as it takes for Utopia to open. 

    SR 2  will always be known as the place that could have been so much better if it weren't for the neophytes who took over the helm. 

   I wonder if you fanboy mods ever even get sick of lying to the community?  Probably not, because you ass clowns get paid regardless while everyone elses BTC's are in escrow awaiting some non-existant resolution center or AF.

   Fuck...even Dream Market has AF.  And you have the audacity to claim that SR 2 is some sort of leader in the underworld drug trade???  LOfuckingL.    Your lies are only outdone by your delusions of grandeur. 

[TheRealCynic]

Honest. Well structured and to the point.
+1

[ToubaboKoomi]

I still cannot log into SR2 because of the fucking CAPTCHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FrenchFries]

...I almost want to TeamViewer you, Koomi, and prove that you're just typing the captcha in wrong...

Ugh. There really aren't that many problems. It happens so infrequently now... Almost NEVER.

[parryparrot]

I'm having problems with register section, is it normal?

[badoo1]

"What else would you like me to say?"   

  Well V, I think what we want, is for you to NOT say anything and start DOING.  The administration of this site reminds me of the Obama administration.  You're all so quick to blame this or that, but never turn the looking glass on yourselves or take responsibility for any issues whatsoever. 

   Your constant excuses of "security this" and "security that" play like a broken record and people are truly sick of you serving us horse shit and calling it caviar.  How dare any of you take commissions from this defunct website.  That alone tells me that the whole lot of you are up to something.....something other than actually fixing any problems.

    Do you think anyone here who's familiar with code writing buys the bullshit you guys are spreading?  I could write a captcha code in the time it takes to drink a cup of coffee.  Any coder could.

   Those of us who are capable of critical thinking know damned well that the true problem is that the current administration are just a bunch of wannabes who are in way over their heads but are too immatuer to actually admit it.   How many times can a leader lie to underlings before insurrection ensues?  About as long as it takes for Utopia to open. 

    SR 2  will always be known as the place that could have been so much better if it weren't for the neophytes who took over the helm. 

   I wonder if you fanboy mods ever even get sick of lying to the community?  Probably not, because you ass clowns get paid regardless while everyone elses BTC's are in escrow awaiting some non-existant resolution center or AF.

   Fuck...even Dream Market has AF.  And you have the audacity to claim that SR 2 is some sort of leader in the underworld drug trade???  LOfuckingL.    Your lies are only outdone by your delusions of grandeur.

agree with this,

got £450 stuck in escrow over a month and support hasn t done anything

I am not fucking rich,this money is a lot for me.

[BloodVsCrips]

"What else would you like me to say?"   

  Well V, I think what we want, is for you to NOT say anything and start DOING.  The administration of this site reminds me of the Obama administration.  You're all so quick to blame this or that, but never turn the looking glass on yourselves or take responsibility for any issues whatsoever. 

   Your constant excuses of "security this" and "security that" play like a broken record and people are truly sick of you serving us horse shit and calling it caviar.  How dare any of you take commissions from this defunct website.  That alone tells me that the whole lot of you are up to something.....something other than actually fixing any problems.

    Do you think anyone here who's familiar with code writing buys the bullshit you guys are spreading?  I could write a captcha code in the time it takes to drink a cup of coffee.  Any coder could.

   Those of us who are capable of critical thinking know damned well that the true problem is that the current administration are just a bunch of wannabes who are in way over their heads but are too immatuer to actually admit it.   How many times can a leader lie to underlings before insurrection ensues?  About as long as it takes for Utopia to open. 

    SR 2  will always be known as the place that could have been so much better if it weren't for the neophytes who took over the helm. 

   I wonder if you fanboy mods ever even get sick of lying to the community?  Probably not, because you ass clowns get paid regardless while everyone elses BTC's are in escrow awaiting some non-existant resolution center or AF.

   Fuck...even Dream Market has AF.  And you have the audacity to claim that SR 2 is some sort of leader in the underworld drug trade???  LOfuckingL.    Your lies are only outdone by your delusions of grandeur.

+1

[TragicallyHip]

"What else would you like me to say?"   

  Well V, I think what we want, is for you to NOT say anything and start DOING.  The administration of this site reminds me of the Obama administration.  You're all so quick to blame this or that, but never turn the looking glass on yourselves or take responsibility for any issues whatsoever. 

   Your constant excuses of "security this" and "security that" play like a broken record and people are truly sick of you serving us horse shit and calling it caviar.  How dare any of you take commissions from this defunct website.  That alone tells me that the whole lot of you are up to something.....something other than actually fixing any problems.

    Do you think anyone here who's familiar with code writing buys the bullshit you guys are spreading?  I could write a captcha code in the time it takes to drink a cup of coffee.  Any coder could.

   Those of us who are capable of critical thinking know damned well that the true problem is that the current administration are just a bunch of wannabes who are in way over their heads but are too immatuer to actually admit it.   How many times can a leader lie to underlings before insurrection ensues?  About as long as it takes for Utopia to open. 

    SR 2  will always be known as the place that could have been so much better if it weren't for the neophytes who took over the helm. 

   I wonder if you fanboy mods ever even get sick of lying to the community?  Probably not, because you ass clowns get paid regardless while everyone elses BTC's are in escrow awaiting some non-existant resolution center or AF.

   Fuck...even Dream Market has AF.  And you have the audacity to claim that SR 2 is some sort of leader in the underworld drug trade???  LOfuckingL.    Your lies are only outdone by your delusions of grandeur.

Thanks for responding to V for me. Saves me a lot of time, and that was a well crafted response.
 
V, there you have it....I didn't even have to answer myself. Does that not show you something? I'm not just some whiny vendor complaining. A lot of people are being affected by all these issues plaguing SR and not one thing has been done about it. NOT ONE.

To anyone looking for a new home - utopia marketplace opened up to buyer registration recently and already has over 1300 drug listings. I'm sure it won't be long before it surpasses SR 2 in popularity and we can all live happily ever after.

[WickedWords]

I hate the issues as much as anybody, but the whole situation is a "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" thing for the staff... on the one hand, when they get their heads down and act on things, people complain that they don't announce things often enough. On the other, when they offer an update (even if it won't make them popular), people ask them why they're speaking and not acting instead... ahh. Funny ol' world.

Well V, I think what we want, is for you to NOT say anything and start DOING.

S'far as I'm aware the mods don't have anything to do with market functionality, right? Aren't they just the messengers?

Hell, shoot me if I'm wrong, but surely encouraging messenger boys to do an engineer's job is a bad idea?

V, for what it's worth, I'd much rather you keep on blowing up government buildings than trying your hand at deep admin-level marketplace stuff.

[TragicallyHip]

They are not just the messengers. Several of them play a part in coding the website.

Also , there HAS BEEN NO UPDATES WHATSOEVER TO SILK ROAD.

So I'd like to know, whether their heads are up or down, or whether they're answering us or not, they are not fucking doing anything.


That's one of the excuses they always liked to use too. Well we can't possibly make a two minute forum update in the middle of coding.

How could that possibly be done?

By the way, since early January. We have been given over 10 different update updates. Not a single feature has been released, and the updates have always been postponed. It's february, utopia is open, and silk road is really starting to look like a joke more and more each day...

[WickedWords]

You sir are another fanboy.

I am?

Lol!

You should see the anthrax-laced envelope I've got prepared - I just need one of the mods to place an order with me using their staff account now, and BOOM.

Plan can NOT go wrong, it's foolproof.

[WickedWords]

In all seriousness though... I don't see myself as a fan boy, but I do think it's harsh that, seemingly, none of the staff are allowed a sense of humour.

So far, I've clocked a handful of comments from staff that have made me laugh but have made others lay into them.

Whether or not the staff members are doing a good job, why should we be trying to crush positivity?

For me, humour is very important. And I don't think the staff show enough of it... though, Defcon does have a remarkably sharp wit; I like him for that regardless of how good he is as an admin.

Anyway, fan boy, hater, fence-sitter... all just useless labels to me. Why do I have to take one of those labels just for trying to see some positivity amidst a torrent of marketplace functionality fuckups?

Ahh well. I've had my run in the play pen now. I'm going back into my den to cuddle my pen.

[TragicallyHip]

The staff might have been allowed some humour, in early January (january 3/4) when they told us all that the support centre was complete, and that the resolution centre was a work of art and near ready to be launched to the public.

It is now February and we have no updates. Defcon is MIA. The site is a piece of shit. There's people missing money left right and centre. Scammers are running rampant. Legitimate vendors have tons of money stuck in escrow. We are having so much trouble with a fucking captcha issue. The negative stock bug is still happening. Withdrawals + deposits are slower than any marketplace. There is a bug that allows people to order even if you choose to be in vacation mode. The simplest fixes haven't been fixed, and the big things we've been lied to about for months.

That is how my positive silk road attitude, turned into a what the fuck is going on here attitude.

[badoo1]

Of course they are allowed a sense of humour ,but doing so in a thread full of important concerns isn t appropriate.

Feels like V is skipping all of these and doesn t give a shit  eventhough I think he is concerned about our issues.

[TheWhiteShadow]

It has been almost a full month since we lost vending privileges... we re-ordered our bond 7 days ago (we were told by other vendors to do this, mods do not bother talking about this issue anymore, except for the occasional lie to give our hopes up) Anyone who complains is called a whiner and told not to be negative.... we can not for the life of us see the positive side of losing thousands of dollars!

This is simply unacceptable, we will be offering 10% bonus's on our product for those who buy our product from UTOPIA... the further away we get from this place the safer we will feel with our money.

How can a whole market place be built from the ground up while SR could not even fix a captcha in the same amount of time? It simply is not right and does not add up.

[FrenchFries]

Guys--STFU.

Seriously? You're still complaining? LISTEN to V. Did you not hear what he said? SECURITY is #1. Always #1. If it's not 100% sure, if it's not 100% ready, it CANNOT be released.

What is SO HARD to grasp about that!?

[BHOKing420]

The kicking the can down the line on all the issues is starting to become a little ridiculous and over redundant.

there are serious issues with the site and I'm honestly really hoping Utopia takes off because a market that doesnt function properly is a dangerious one.


As a vendor who does a lot of business here I'm starting to become frustrated. 

[Headhunter]

Guys--STFU.

Seriously? You're still complaining? LISTEN to V. Did you not hear what he said? SECURITY is #1. Always #1. If it's not 100% sure, if it's not 100% ready, it CANNOT be released.

What is SO HARD to grasp about that!?

You are another ass licker who believes everything a mod or dev says. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES!!!

[FrenchFries]

Guys--STFU.

Seriously? You're still complaining? LISTEN to V. Did you not hear what he said? SECURITY is #1. Always #1. If it's not 100% sure, if it's not 100% ready, it CANNOT be released.

What is SO HARD to grasp about that!?

You are another ass licker who believes everything a mod or dev says. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES!!!

Believe what you want to believe, kid...

[whatsabitcoin]

Guys--STFU.

Seriously? You're still complaining? LISTEN to V. Did you not hear what he said? SECURITY is #1. Always #1. If it's not 100% sure, if it's not 100% ready, it CANNOT be released.

What is SO HARD to grasp about that!?

how does SR2's cock taste? sorry that was off topic what i was meant to say was, do you seriously believe they cant create a working captcha in 3 fucking months due to security issues? they have not done one thing... not one thing in as long as i can remember, except make false promises... how can you possibly be retarded enough to still by there crap?

not to mention MUCH more security is being compromised by not fixing up these issues.. that itself blows your argument (retardument) out of the water... jesus christ lad wake up and smell the rain

[arkadian2920]

For me at the moment the site is unusable. It takes forever to log in, and once I did last night I find my negative balance has grown to 0.615 BTC so I can't place an order even if I wanted to. I'm loth to move to an untested market and I don't need to re-up just yet, but if SR don't fix these things then I will have no choice but to go elsewhere.

[FrenchFries]

Guys--STFU.

Seriously? You're still complaining? LISTEN to V. Did you not hear what he said? SECURITY is #1. Always #1. If it's not 100% sure, if it's not 100% ready, it CANNOT be released.

What is SO HARD to grasp about that!?

how does SR2's cock taste? sorry that was off topic what i was meant to say was, do you seriously believe they cant create a working captcha in 3 fucking months due to security issues? they have not done one thing... not one thing in as long as i can remember, except make false promises... how can you possibly be retarded enough to still by there crap?

not to mention MUCH more security is being compromised by not fixing up these issues.. that itself blows your argument (retardument) out of the water... jesus christ lad wake up and smell the rain

Sorry honey, but your stupidity is baffling to me. You guys need seriously shut up. You have NO IDEA what goes on behind closed doors. You have NO IDEA the shit that has to be dealt with and gone over and what they're constantly, on a day to day basis, going through...

This is astounding. My jaw is literally dropping to the floor.

[r0guebubbles]

SR is really slow to me, could be all my neighbours being online right now. Tsssk 

[whatsabitcoin]

Guys--STFU.

Seriously? You're still complaining? LISTEN to V. Did you not hear what he said? SECURITY is #1. Always #1. If it's not 100% sure, if it's not 100% ready, it CANNOT be released.

What is SO HARD to grasp about that!?

how does SR2's cock taste? sorry that was off topic what i was meant to say was, do you seriously believe they cant create a working captcha in 3 fucking months due to security issues? they have not done one thing... not one thing in as long as i can remember, except make false promises... how can you possibly be retarded enough to still by there crap?

not to mention MUCH more security is being compromised by not fixing up these issues.. that itself blows your argument (retardument) out of the water... jesus christ lad wake up and smell the rain

Sorry honey, but your stupidity is baffling to me. You guys need seriously shut up. You have NO IDEA what goes on behind closed doors. You have NO IDEA the shit that has to be dealt with and gone over and what they're constantly, on a day to day basis, going through...

This is astounding. My jaw is literally dropping to the floor.

I would shut your jaw mighty quick... just making it easier for SR's cock to slide in... and your right we do have no idea wat they are really doing.. but alot of people have an idea of how to implement features to websites... and all of them say it doesnt take 3 months to fix a captcha... not to mention the countless other problems... i admit there is a possibility you are correct, but the chances are heavily in the favour of the 90% of people on here who realize even a good brand name can turn to shit, especially when the CEO has no longer any control over what he originally began.. and the most likely thing they are going through on a day to day is the thousands and thousands of dollars being deposited into there account

[Crawling]

I would shut your jaw mighty quick... just making it easier for SR's cock to slide in... and your right we do have no idea wat they are really doing.. but alot of people have an idea of how to implement features to websites... and all of them say it doesnt take 3 months to fix a captcha... not to mention the countless other problems... i admit there is a possibility you are correct, but the chances are heavily in the favour of the 90% of people on here who realize even a good brand name can turn to shit, especially when the CEO has no longer any control over what he originally began.. and the most likely thing they are going through on a day to day is the thousands and thousands of dollars being deposited into there account

So you are comparing regular internet web development to an illegal marketplace (currently the biggest by FAR) ran on a TOR Hidden Service. You have no clue, just stop. You're making yourself look like a fucking retard. You realize that SR is the biggest target for a hacker to try and take bitcoins from, right? SR2 is constantly under attack from people trying to find exploits to steal coins, do you not understand that? BMR was closed down due to losing BTC from a hack (which was fixed due to help from backopy). Like FrenchFries told you before, security is always #1. No it doesn't take 3 months to make a flawless CAPTCHA but that is not their concern right now. Their concern right now is making sure the site is secure, coins are not vulnerable to be stolen and is atleast functioning enough where people are able to place orders. Yes there are TONS of scams going on right now, but most buyers are fucking morons. The publicity from SR1 closure brought in a bunch of new users to this site, who I'm guessing are the majority of the dumbasses getting scammed for cheap FE listings. I have placed and received atleast 15 orders since SR2 opened. Haven't lost a fucking dime, but SR2 is a scam right? Lol.

Oh and that's not even including them having to account for LE.

If you don't believe in this place and think it's a scam then leave, I don't see what the point is in staying here posting and whining, it does nothing.

[WeedGirls]

To be fair to those of us who understand security and what it takes to run a secure site, it is clear that SR2 are facing a huge uphill battle, however, given the amount of money they are making from vendors and the amount of crap we are taking from buyers, why should they not be responding to or taking crap from us??  We paid a bond that, as far as we know, we are never going to see again.  We are losing money from buyers who won't FE, buyers who never finalized and buyers who believe the forums and think the slowdowns, downtime etc etc etc are 'selective scamming' by reputable vendors.  If I hear that ridiculous phrase again I will scream.  We are wasting time with melodramatic complaints and being badmouthed in forums.  It has also opened the market up to real scammers underming the rest of us.  We are forced to try and keep it together with untraceable orders, a non functional messaging system, no order numbers, site too slow to operate etc etc etc but get nothing from SR who are taking a hefty percentage of each purchase whether we have to give a refund or make any money or not.  We are having to provide 3 times the service and take 3 times the hit just to keep our heads above water.  It would appear that SR2 are not having trouble signing up new vendors however but still pointing to server load and security as the issues.

There is no rational reason why regular updates cannot be posted and bonds cannot be refunded.  How about STOP TAKING A PERCENTAGE UNTIL THE SITE IS FIXED?? I for one would be more than happy to see a few more minutes of sluggish performance in exchange for my escrow account to be forwarded to my account....

[FrenchFries]

Guys--STFU.

Seriously? You're still complaining? LISTEN to V. Did you not hear what he said? SECURITY is #1. Always #1. If it's not 100% sure, if it's not 100% ready, it CANNOT be released.

What is SO HARD to grasp about that!?

how does SR2's cock taste? sorry that was off topic what i was meant to say was, do you seriously believe they cant create a working captcha in 3 fucking months due to security issues? they have not done one thing... not one thing in as long as i can remember, except make false promises... how can you possibly be retarded enough to still by there crap?

not to mention MUCH more security is being compromised by not fixing up these issues.. that itself blows your argument (retardument) out of the water... jesus christ lad wake up and smell the rain

Sorry honey, but your stupidity is baffling to me. You guys need seriously shut up. You have NO IDEA what goes on behind closed doors. You have NO IDEA the shit that has to be dealt with and gone over and what they're constantly, on a day to day basis, going through...

This is astounding. My jaw is literally dropping to the floor.

I would shut your jaw mighty quick... just making it easier for SR's cock to slide in... and your right we do have no idea wat they are really doing.. but alot of people have an idea of how to implement features to websites... and all of them say it doesnt take 3 months to fix a captcha... not to mention the countless other problems... i admit there is a possibility you are correct, but the chances are heavily in the favour of the 90% of people on here who realize even a good brand name can turn to shit, especially when the CEO has no longer any control over what he originally began.. and the most likely thing they are going through on a day to day is the thousands and thousands of dollars being deposited into there account

My mind is boggled. BOGGLED.

I just... I just cannot believe that you truly think this. Will you just WAIT? At least you admitted that there's a "possibility" that I might be right, but fuck...

I AM right.

[whatsabitcoin]

I would shut your jaw mighty quick... just making it easier for SR's cock to slide in... and your right we do have no idea wat they are really doing.. but alot of people have an idea of how to implement features to websites... and all of them say it doesnt take 3 months to fix a captcha... not to mention the countless other problems... i admit there is a possibility you are correct, but the chances are heavily in the favour of the 90% of people on here who realize even a good brand name can turn to shit, especially when the CEO has no longer any control over what he originally began.. and the most likely thing they are going through on a day to day is the thousands and thousands of dollars being deposited into there account

So you are comparing regular internet web development to an illegal marketplace (currently the biggest by FAR) ran on a TOR Hidden Service. You have no clue, just stop. You're making yourself look like a fucking retard. You realize that SR is the biggest target for a hacker to try and take bitcoins from, right? SR2 is constantly under attack from people trying to find exploits to steal coins, do you not understand that? BMR was closed down due to losing BTC from a hack (which was fixed due to help from backopy). Like FrenchFries told you before, security is always #1. No it doesn't take 3 months to make a flawless CAPTCHA but that is not their concern right now. Their concern right now is making sure the site is secure, coins are not vulnerable to be stolen and is atleast functioning enough where people are able to place orders. Yes there are TONS of scams going on right now, but most buyers are fucking morons. The publicity from SR1 closure brought in a bunch of new users to this site, who I'm guessing are the majority of the dumbasses getting scammed for cheap FE listings. I have placed and received atleast 15 orders since SR2 opened. Haven't lost a fucking dime, but SR2 is a scam right? Lol.

Oh and that's not even including them having to account for LE.

If you don't believe in this place and think it's a scam then leave, I don't see what the point is in staying here posting and whining, it does nothing.

So you admit the site is in utter chaos... but there is nothing they can really do about it? Why dont they do what they use to do on SR1 and shut the place down until it is usable again?

Right now this whole site is a gateway for a buyer to communicate to a vendor, and to put money in escrow then release it to the vendor (if they choose to release the funds that is) but if ANYTHING out of the ordinary happens, then both the buyer and seller are fucked since there is 0 support... and don't get me started on all the vendors who have gone for a month now with a disabled account along with ALL there customers money stuck in escrow.

And why... why O why are the mods out right LYING! giving us dates which things will be fixed and not coming through.. and the sickest joke out there is the fact the they are saying THE CAPTCHA IS FIXED.... lol its not, its still fucking broken!

Unless you are capable of seriously deluding yourself, even a moron could tell something is seriously wrong.. what it is I have no clue... but if this was as legitimate site (I know it sells drugs you idiot) as you make it out to be then it would have shut down a month ago until some serious fundamental features were implemented.

[whatsabitcoin]

My mind is boggled. BOGGLED.

I just... I just cannot believe that you truly think this. Will you just WAIT? At least you admitted that there's a "possibility" that I might be right, but fuck...

I AM right.

Lol well that makes to of us with boggled minds

[Alicew]

Always takes me about 5-6 times to log in, I really see no improvements. I understand that safety is the first, but I would avoid putting updates that something is improved when it really isn't.

[CaptnArcher]

Thanks defcon!!! SR rocks

[Thirtyrox]

I see so many people saying that it sometimes takes them forever to log in because of the captcha issue. If you simply right click on the captcha image, a "Page Info" window will open, and show exactly what the captcha is. Most of the time they match, but occasionally they don't. Always enter what is shown in the "Page Info" window, and your captcha login troubles should be gone for good! :-)

[Akon]

At the time when people got angry because DPR/Defcon did interviews and went public. He said one thing that is still stuck in my head(in a good way)

DPR/Defcon: In a moment of decision, the best thing you can do si the right thing, the worst you can do is NOTHING!


Why dont you guys do something instead of NOTHING?

And please remove me from the "shitt-list"

[whatsabitcoin]

I see so many people saying that it sometimes takes them forever to log in because of the captcha issue. If you simply right click on the captcha image, a "Page Info" window will open, and show exactly what the captcha is. Most of the time they match, but occasionally they don't. Always enter what is shown in the "Page Info" window, and your captcha login troubles should be gone for good! :-)

tried this... still didnt work until the picture it showed matched up with the original picture on the log in screen

seems to work only for a select few people i suppose

[dreamscape]

Captcha not working at all for me, tried the suggestions above, 20 times in a row and still cannot get in.

[FrenchFries]

Has anyone tried hitting torbutton and opening a new identity? Works for me every time if there's a problem.

[Kazma]

tbh i dont know what ppl are mourning about.

- for me the captcha works at least 95% of the time (since the beginning)
- deposits and withdrawals show up in less then 6 hours (the last one just took like 20-30 minutes)

we just have to hold together even though any order auto finalizes now without any chance to give a vendor feedback.
but this is why we have trusted review threads for lots of vendors, so people just have to dig around in the forums a bit to find a reliable/trustworthy one

please help the global SR refunds with your order!

all the best,
kazma

[TragicallyHip]

tbh i dont know what ppl are mourning about.

- for me the captcha works at least 95% of the time (since the beginning)
- deposits and withdrawals show up in less then 6 hours (the last one just took like 20-30 minutes)

we just have to hold together even though any order auto finalizes now without any chance to give a vendor feedback.
but this is why we have trusted review threads for lots of vendors, so people just have to dig around in the forums a bit to find a reliable/trustworthy one

please help the global SR refunds with your order!

all the best,
kazma

There is no more escrow because of Defcon's mistakes. There is no more feedback because when removing the finalize button they somehow broke the feedback ability's. (convenient)

Not a single cent of any honest vendor who didn't beg for money back has been paid back. Not a cent. My available balance is still at 0$ and so are all the honest trustworthy vendors I know of.

I have singlehandedly pointed out more than six confirmed scammer accounts with proof. They have been active and known about for months. They were left to keep scamming.

It's ironic to note - all of you people are now going to be paid back with money that was commissioned off of the rampant scammers of the silk road.

So some of the money that will be paid back was stolen from honest good people that were scammed because the staff of silk road have not acted to rid the place of scammers

If you still think that is the way a marketplace should be run, I can only hope you too get scammed

[goblin]

Why is heDefcon posting this thread as an explanation for the persent launch delays (update 6) when it hasn't been hasn't been posted to since Feb 13 and not bu him since Feb 7???:

http://silkroad5v7dywlc.onion/index.php?topic=22969.0

[worth-strut]

tbh i dont know what ppl are mourning about.

- for me the captcha works at least 95% of the time (since the beginning)
- deposits and withdrawals show up in less then 6 hours (the last one just took like 20-30 minutes)

we just have to hold together even though any order auto finalizes now without any chance to give a vendor feedback.
but this is why we have trusted review threads for lots of vendors, so people just have to dig around in the forums a bit to find a reliable/trustworthy one

please help the global SR refunds with your order!

all the best,
kazma

There is no more escrow because of Defcon's mistakes. There is no more feedback because when removing the finalize button they somehow broke the feedback ability's. (convenient)

Not a single cent of any honest vendor who didn't beg for money back has been paid back. Not a cent. My available balance is still at 0$ and so are all the honest trustworthy vendors I know of.

I have singlehandedly pointed out more than six confirmed scammer accounts with proof. They have been active and known about for months. They were left to keep scamming.

It's ironic to note - all of you people are now going to be paid back with money that was commissioned off of the rampant scammers of the silk road.

So some of the money that will be paid back was stolen from honest good people that were scammed because the staff of silk road have not acted to rid the place of scammers

If you still think that is the way a marketplace should be run, I can only hope you too get scammed

I agree somewhat with what you have been saying.. However there is no need to have a go at people in a "I can only hope you too get scammed" manner. When has that approach ever changed peoples minds? Put across facts and speculation yes but with the attitude that you have went at some users recently is only going to put them on the defensive. I agree that some serious work needs to be done and trust regained. I see no reason why these scamming bastards have not yet been removed, surely it can be done with a few clicks of the mouse. Thank you for compiling a scammer list, I'll add to it if i come across any. Good chance there will be a few more now that we can't leave fb. Worth