A Few Words Regarding Scammers & Slow Market Support

[V]

There has been an influx of heated discussions regarding scamming activity and slow market support - and understandably so.

As staff, we are just as eager as the rest of our community to see the back of these issues. And although all information regarding the situation can already be found in official announcements and staff comments throughout the forums, I thought it might be helpful to collect a few of the most relevant points together and publish them here to help you all understand the situation more clearly.

Let's start from the beginning and work our way through - hopefully this will serve to build a bit of a picture for those of you who still feel confused, hard done by and in the dark:


1. Recently, a lot of staff disappeared for various reasons you're all aware of

2. More forum staff have been added; however

3. None of the missing staff with the market access have yet been replaced; meaning

4. All marketplace admin and support is right now being run by a skeleton crew (the bare minimum); therefore

5. Absolutely essential tasks (such as site operation and security) are taking absolute priority over anything else

(To clarify this, there have been NO cuts made to the manpower being invested into fundamental site operations and security, however, this is taking practically ALL of the time our skeleton crew has. In other words, almost 100% of market admin's time is being taken dealing with the fundamental tasks needed to keep Silk Road operational and secure)

6. Any excess time the skeleton crew does have that doesn't fall into essential site operations, is being invested equally across improving market performance, implementing market updates, training new market staff, and SECURELY handling support requests

7. This minimal amount of excess time available to the skeleton crew means that updates are taking longer than planned, performance is from time to time inconsistent, market support is still understaffed, and the queue for market support is growing faster than it is being handled; oh, and

8. Traffic has doubled since early December

Think about it like this: Imagine you're the manager of a busy McDonalds. Imagine now, that half of your staff have just quit, but that the number of customers coming in has just doubled. Let's go one step further and imagine that you're the ONLY staff member with the ability to tackle the core functionality of the restaurant - in other words, you're a one-man-band, and you're serving a queue that goes out of the door and around the corner. But you're not just serving, no - you're taking orders, manning the drive-thu, cooking the burgers, pouring the coffees, cashing the tills, training new staff, dealing with shoplifters and taking complaints ALL at the same time. Your customers are hungry and angry - but will shutting the shop make them happier? No. So you continue.

As we speak, a system is being developed to allow many more staff members secure access to market functionality to start handling support. Once this is in place, and more staff can deal with requests such as banning scammers, resetting pin numbers, unlocking locked accounts, mediating disputes and more, the support queue will vanish. But until this system is in place, unfortunately, we have to accept that there's the equivalent of a one-man-band running the restaurant.

To reiterate one of the most important points above:

Traffic to the site has more than doubled, yet staff with market access has more than halved

This WILL be solved in due course. But until then, the fact remains that we can expect an amount of turbulence to occur.

Just because banning a scammer might be as easy as visiting a profile, verifying reports and hitting 'ban' doesn't mean the skeleton crew can drop their essential tasks and deal with every instance immediately. But scammers HAVE been banned, support requests HAVE been handled... it's all being dealt with systematically and in an ordered queue, it's just slow.

Your support requests are being dealt with in the order they arrive. Reporting them several times will not speed the process up, it will only clog the queue - instead of finding five minutes free and banning a genuine scammer in the order that scammer was reported, admin are finding five minutes free and using it to delete all duplicate requests from the same person of a scammer that's now been dealt with, and no progress is being made. Help our admin to make the most of every five minute window they get: if you have an issue, if you've found a scammer, if you need help... please DO make us aware, but please do NOT continue making us aware. It WILL be sorted, but it WILL take longer than you're used to.

During these tough times, your patience, respect and understanding holds such high value to all staff running the site.

It's tough for those of you effected by support delays, and likewise, it's tough for us trying to ensure a pleasant experience.

Let's stick together - we're on the brink of something incredible, and we've come so far already.

I have deep respect for you all, please stay safe and keep spirits high.

V

[jst25]

well said.

[vince]

People don't care. They'll read this and come up with another 10000 reasons to call SR staff horrible because they don't have shit else to do but point fingers.

[qwerty92]

Cant harm to hold on. lets just all be carefull with our BTC.

[EveyHammond]

Music to my ears. <3

[Fear The Reaper]

Cheers and best wishes to you and the staff...

Reaper

[daddybee]

Thanks V

[Qthello]

I think tin foil hats should be banned.

[twatWaffle]

Props V. +1

Can't ban tinfoil hats, they're huge in Uraguay. Oh, and in Kali.

[Qthello]

Lol, and SR forums!

[anontoker]

We are learning what to watch for now, especially concerning listings set at $0.00.  I still see listings I am suspicious of regarding insane pricing and shitty vendor information in the vendor's profile. I can't say jack shit, I just don't buy from them.
We know you are understaffed and that we all have been keelhauled through allot of fud and bs. I just contribute if I can and if I cannot I have fun. If I don't have either, I just leave.

We have a market with honest vendors, I am thankful for that and for everyone's work towards the goal of providing an honest market, mods, community, vendors and buyers have done an outstanding job considering everything that has happened.

We have a market.

[SunshineDaydream]

Thanks Guys and Girls.

Your status updates help ease us.

[Qthello]

Last year I came here to get drugs, I have since stayed for the community. I am here for the long voyage. Even if the ship has holes or is taking on water, I'll do whatever it takes to help plug those holes/bail out the water.

[redalloverthenet]

I think SR support do a great job and with the recent changes, I respect all who remain on the ship!

And lets hold the page a second - bear in mind that staff here have been busted not customers, so how anyone can criticise them is beyond me. Then again there are some rude ill mannered people and also newbies who are impatient sometimes, understandable but they need curtaiing sometimes, and also scammer customers who try and blackmail vendors as well as dodgy vendors.

I have a radar for dodgy vendors.

The spam we used to have here is barely noticable these days so well done! I was sick of those phoney adverts for bitcoin at cheap rates.

Just the fact that SR has risen again ought to be cause for celebration and maybe a kind word to the support staff will be appreciated.

I know that I get all moody if nobody says 'thanks' to me when I'm working my ass off. That happens sometimes. Not a lot but its been known. In my job I'm not risking my liberty whist SR staff are.

Without these support staff - SR would be a scammer frenzy, but my experience since the early days is that its been well run - mistakes are made sometimes, but mostly thats customers taking chances and getting scammed. Some of these get bitter at the SR staff which is pointless. Enough advice is given here to prevent you being scammed but I guess few people read this despite advice to read it. I think ony about 10% of people who join SR bother to join the forums.

But if your short staffed, I've just got 6 months work that will leave me scratching my balls so could handle another job based on a computer. I'd nail those scammers for you, stop silly posts and give good advice. Not just advice such as 'lube up, bend over'.  or 'A snake bit my dick dude, you gotta suck the poison out'.  (old one but funny)

I'd give wayyyy better advice than that!

I don't know anybody on SR, (bonus) but I'd be good for UK support or just general support.

I am a diplomat! I got a good understanding of how this site works.

[WickedWords]

LOVE the McD analogy, haha.

I'm imagining Defcon asking "Would you like fries with that?"

[Hippiechick]

I think tin foil hats should be banned.

Okay, I have heard this term used in these forums many times. I am in no way a newbie, and I have 3 degrees so it's safe to say I have reasonable intelligence. But I still have no fucking clue what "tin foil hats" means!! Would some kind soul please clear this up for me??

By the way, V, excellent post. Very well stated with a good analogy siipped right in there. Your announcement will surely calm down the community and give the admins time to do their jobs.

~Hippiechick

[Qthello]

It's a reference to conspiracy theorists. In a couple movies people have them on to stop mind control, radio waves from aliens that may be trying to control them mentally. It basically means people thinking paranoid and irrational.

[Hippiechick]

It's a reference to conspiracy theorists. In a couple movies people have them on to stop mind control, radio waves from aliens that may be trying to control them mentally. It basically means people thinking paranoid and irrational.

Thank you for that simple yet informative explanation, Qthello. Much appreciated. But now that I know what it means, it doesn't make those who use the term in their posts sound less silly to me.

~Hippiechick

[Qthello]

It's a reference to conspiracy theorists. In a couple movies people have them on to stop mind control, radio waves from aliens that may be trying to control them mentally. It basically means people thinking paranoid and irrational.

Thank you for that simple yet informative explanation, Qthello. Much appreciated. But now that I know what it means, it doesn't make those who use the term in their posts sound less silly to me.

~Hippiechick

Nor does it make the people and their conspiracy therioes less silly too me. :p. Also, for the record. Was my first time using it!

[StudyDrugsUK]

+1

[admiral]

My question is if all current disputes will be solved before auto-finalization is re-enabled?
If not, that would put us (victims) in the situation where we can still lose the money in escrow.

[Venmemphis]

Thank you for this post. You guys are great and appreciated. We as members need to do our part and be patient.

[therealmightyboosh77]

respect, patience and support wholeheartedly given V.  stick together we must.

[DoctorClu]

LOVE the McD analogy, haha.

I'm imagining Defcon asking "Would you like fries with that?"

While wearing a suit.

Well said, V.

[Unclaimed]

Well written and respectable! Thanks V.

[D.A.R.E.]

BTC Gold

[RICHARD_KUKLINSKI]

Beautiful!

Patience is a Virtue my fellow freedomfighters.


RK

[TheRealCynic]

Let's start from the beginning and work our way through - hopefully this will serve to build a bit of a picture for those of you who still feel confused, hard done by and in the dark:


1. Recently, a lot of staff disappeared for various reasons you're all aware of

2. More forum staff have been added; however

3. None of the missing staff with the market access have yet been replaced; meaning

4. All marketplace admin and support is right now being run by a skeleton crew (the bare minimum); therefore

5. Absolutely essential tasks (such as site operation and security) are taking absolute priority over anything else

(To clarify this, there have been NO cuts made to the manpower being invested into fundamental site operations and security, however, this is taking practically ALL of the time our skeleton crew has. In other words, almost 100% of market admin's time is being taken dealing with the fundamental tasks needed to keep Silk Road operational and secure)

6. Any excess time the skeleton crew does have that doesn't fall into essential site operations, is being invested equally across improving market performance, implementing market updates, training new market staff, and SECURELY handling support requests

7. This minimal amount of excess time available to the skeleton crew means that updates are taking longer than planned, performance is from time to time inconsistent, market support is still understaffed, and the queue for market support is growing faster than it is being handled; oh, and

8. Traffic has doubled since early December

Think about it like this: Imagine you're the manager of a busy McDonalds. Imagine now, that half of your staff have just quit, but that the number of customers coming in has just doubled. Let's go one step further and imagine that you're the ONLY staff member with the ability to tackle the core functionality of the restaurant - in other words, you're a one-man-band, and you're serving a queue that goes out of the door and around the corner. But you're not just serving, no - you're taking orders, manning the drive-thu, cooking the burgers, pouring the coffees, cashing the tills, training new staff, dealing with shoplifters and taking complaints ALL at the same time. Your customers are hungry and angry - but will shutting the shop make them happier? No. So you continue.



V

Your business acumen is fucked V.
Of course you shut shop to keep your good reputation. Or in the case of Maccas you call another store and get some casual staff.If you have a cues around the corner best to shut the restaurant and reopen when staffed and operable. You cannot operate with wait staff alone. Another good thing would be to get staff who you can manage. It's not a good look when an employer has all of their staff quit.
Maybe you used a stupid example, but to anyone with an ounce of business knowledge, you just shot yourself in the foot.


I came here for the drugs.
Now all I want is my fucking money!!!!

[Qthello]

Let's start from the beginning and work our way through - hopefully this will serve to build a bit of a picture for those of you who still feel confused, hard done by and in the dark:


1. Recently, a lot of staff disappeared for various reasons you're all aware of

2. More forum staff have been added; however

3. None of the missing staff with the market access have yet been replaced; meaning

4. All marketplace admin and support is right now being run by a skeleton crew (the bare minimum); therefore

5. Absolutely essential tasks (such as site operation and security) are taking absolute priority over anything else

(To clarify this, there have been NO cuts made to the manpower being invested into fundamental site operations and security, however, this is taking practically ALL of the time our skeleton crew has. In other words, almost 100% of market admin's time is being taken dealing with the fundamental tasks needed to keep Silk Road operational and secure)

6. Any excess time the skeleton crew does have that doesn't fall into essential site operations, is being invested equally across improving market performance, implementing market updates, training new market staff, and SECURELY handling support requests

7. This minimal amount of excess time available to the skeleton crew means that updates are taking longer than planned, performance is from time to time inconsistent, market support is still understaffed, and the queue for market support is growing faster than it is being handled; oh, and

8. Traffic has doubled since early December

Think about it like this: Imagine you're the manager of a busy McDonalds. Imagine now, that half of your staff have just quit, but that the number of customers coming in has just doubled. Let's go one step further and imagine that you're the ONLY staff member with the ability to tackle the core functionality of the restaurant - in other words, you're a one-man-band, and you're serving a queue that goes out of the door and around the corner. But you're not just serving, no - you're taking orders, manning the drive-thu, cooking the burgers, pouring the coffees, cashing the tills, training new staff, dealing with shoplifters and taking complaints ALL at the same time. Your customers are hungry and angry - but will shutting the shop make them happier? No. So you continue.



V

Your business acumen is fucked V.
Of course you shut shop to keep your good reputation. Or in the case of Maccas you call another store and get some casual staff.If you have a cues around the corner best to shut the restaurant and reopen when staffed and operable. You cannot operate with wait staff alone. Another good thing would be to get staff who you can manage. It's not a good look when an employer has all of their staff quit.
Maybe you used a stupid example, but to anyone with an ounce of business knowledge, you just shot yourself in the foot.


I came here for the drugs.
Now all I want is my fucking money!!!!

This dude is pissed and just looking to lash out at everyone. Pay him no mind.

[V]

Your business acumen is fucked V.
Of course you shut shop to keep your good reputation. Or in the case of Maccas you call another store and get some casual staff.If you have a cues around the corner best to shut the restaurant and reopen when staffed and operable. You cannot operate with wait staff alone. Another good thing would be to get staff who you can manage. It's not a good look when an employer has all of their staff quit.
Maybe you used a stupid example, but to anyone with an ounce of business knowledge, you just shot yourself in the foot.

I'll concede, my analogy was not the greatest. Although it does offer several valuable similarities, it's far from perfect or exact.

I'm probably best leaving parables to Jesus.

V

[TheRealCynic]

Your business acumen is fucked V.
Of course you shut shop to keep your good reputation. Or in the case of Maccas you call another store and get some casual staff.If you have a cues around the corner best to shut the restaurant and reopen when staffed and operable. You cannot operate with wait staff alone. Another good thing would be to get staff who you can manage. It's not a good look when an employer has all of their staff quit.
Maybe you used a stupid example, but to anyone with an ounce of business knowledge, you just shot yourself in the foot.

I'll concede, my analogy was not the greatest. Although it does offer several valuable similarities, it's far from perfect or exact.

I'm probably best leaving parables to Jesus.

V

Yeah look I am in a screwed mood too.
Sorry to call you out like that V.
I will take a walk and collect myself and then return, hopefully with an apology or 2.
But yeah also probably not the best but I am sure some people here will relate to that best.
keeping it simple silly

[cascas]

sellitall99 still stealing money from the community.

SR staff still can't take 30 seconds to ban this known and obvious scammer.

Just more words to placate the community, that's all they can do.

[Cheese on Toast]

sellitall99 still stealing money from the community.

SR staff still can't take 30 seconds to ban this known and obvious scammer.

Just more words to placate the community, that's all they can do.

is pretty bad how he's still at it. The most known scammer in operation.

[Qthello]

Why would anyone buy from anyone that has a thread dedicated about them scamming? I do not even know what they vendor, I do know from browsing forums that, I would not buy from them.

I don't get how people are getting scammed so often. Perhaps it is in reference to my other post. A lot more people using the site than used to be, without doing any research on the vendor, just seeing deals and $ signs.

[cascas]

sellitall99 still stealing money from the community.

SR staff still can't take 30 seconds to ban this known and obvious scammer.

Just more words to placate the community, that's all they can do.

is pretty bad how he's still at it. The most known scammer in operation.

It's not pretty bad, it's absolutely disgusting and I've refrained from saying this because it just sounds so fucking stupid to say it and I know that, but the only logical conclusion to take away from this is that SR allows scammers to stay active for as long as possible, because scammers try much harder to make sales and therefore probably do make good commission for SR.

Gonna get flamed for that but I have exhausted all other possible reasons for SR to allow sellitall99 to still be a vendor.

[Devil Weed Seeds]

It would take a Macdonald's employee 1.2 million years to earn what the CEO makes a year.

[3OO]

It would take a Macdonald's employee 1.2 million years to earn what the CEO makes a year.

I believe we have watched the same video and if I'm not mistaken it said they would have to work 1.2 million hours.

[the fisherman]

lol who even watches videos lmao :-) +1

[Hiniguel]

I think SR support do a great job and with the recent changes, I respect all who remain on the ship!

And lets hold the page a second - bear in mind that staff here have been busted not customers, so how anyone can criticise them is beyond me. Then again there are some rude ill mannered people and also newbies who are impatient sometimes, understandable but they need curtaiing sometimes, and also scammer customers who try and blackmail vendors as well as dodgy vendors.

I have a radar for dodgy vendors.

The spam we used to have here is barely noticable these days so well done! I was sick of those phoney adverts for bitcoin at cheap rates.

Just the fact that SR has risen again ought to be cause for celebration and maybe a kind word to the support staff will be appreciated.

I know that I get all moody if nobody says 'thanks' to me when I'm working my ass off. That happens sometimes. Not a lot but its been known. In my job I'm not risking my liberty whist SR staff are.

Without these support staff - SR would be a scammer frenzy, but my experience since the early days is that its been well run - mistakes are made sometimes, but mostly thats customers taking chances and getting scammed. Some of these get bitter at the SR staff which is pointless. Enough advice is given here to prevent you being scammed but I guess few people read this despite advice to read it. I think ony about 10% of people who join SR bother to join the forums.

But if your short staffed, I've just got 6 months work that will leave me scratching my balls so could handle another job based on a computer. I'd nail those scammers for you, stop silly posts and give good advice. Not just advice such as 'lube up, bend over'.  or 'A snake bit my dick dude, you gotta suck the poison out'.  (old one but funny)

I'd give wayyyy better advice than that!

I don't know anybody on SR, (bonus) but I'd be good for UK support or just general support.

I am a diplomat! I got a good understanding of how this site works.

That isn't wise to post such things from a buyers account. Some unethical vendors store addresses and names - therefore if you did ever want to be part of SR staff, it would be best to get a new/fresh account, but they don't just hire willy nilly, this is the most watched website on the dark net remember.

[lightshinesthrough]

sellitall99 still stealing money from the community.

SR staff still can't take 30 seconds to ban this known and obvious scammer.

Just more words to placate the community, that's all they can do.

is pretty bad how he's still at it. The most known scammer in operation.

It's not pretty bad, it's absolutely disgusting and I've refrained from saying this because it just sounds so fucking stupid to say it and I know that, but the only logical conclusion to take away from this is that SR allows scammers to stay active for as long as possible, because scammers try much harder to make sales and therefore probably do make good commission for SR.

Gonna get flamed for that but I have exhausted all other possible reasons for SR to allow sellitall99 to still be a vendor.

Your being very narrow minded on this issue.

I personally know that Sellitall99 is a scammer for sure, but it don't jump out as so if you got to that persons profile (probably all recent feedback is done by the scammer).

If you stop for a moment ranting of 'it will take 30 seconds to ban' and think this from Defcon's point of view. He is probably so busy that he has very little time to browse these forums or other places. So you are essentially asking him to trust you on banning someone (going with this 30 second analogy).

He needs to look into it, and unfortunately it looks like he is just too damn busy, and has made other things a priority. Is this ideal, well no , I hate also to see any scammers be successful, but your stretching it saying this is intentional...

I almost feel like it's no point trying to explain this to you this since it's all pretty much said in the post of V.  We are in a hectic phase, with staff disappearing and people coming in from all doors...

I personally have no doubt that things will get better ...   You keep repeating this in many threads, do you really think THAT will make a difference... The active moderators must be already aware...

How about this;   Collect all the info /proof of Sellitall99 under one thread, so that when Defcon even if he is in hurry sees it, can see it pretty fast that something is definitely wrong...

Also someone did write this somewhere;  Even if forum moderators have now their hands tight behind their backs, if one of them has time, he/she could put the info together regarding scammers and present it to Defcon, making the decision for him easy...

But above all, just chill , karma will eventually anyhow do the tricks on people like Sellitall99 , there is no escaping . . .
 
This community needs more love less panic . . .   
 

[GrassRoots]

Thanks for Clarifying V

[cascas]

sellitall99 still stealing money from the community.

SR staff still can't take 30 seconds to ban this known and obvious scammer.

Just more words to placate the community, that's all they can do.

is pretty bad how he's still at it. The most known scammer in operation.

It's not pretty bad, it's absolutely disgusting and I've refrained from saying this because it just sounds so fucking stupid to say it and I know that, but the only logical conclusion to take away from this is that SR allows scammers to stay active for as long as possible, because scammers try much harder to make sales and therefore probably do make good commission for SR.

Gonna get flamed for that but I have exhausted all other possible reasons for SR to allow sellitall99 to still be a vendor.

Your being very narrow minded on this issue.

I personally know that Sellitall99 is a scammer for sure, but it don't jump out as so if you got to that persons profile (probably all recent feedback is done by the scammer).

If you stop for a moment ranting of 'it will take 30 seconds to ban' and think this from Defcon's point of view. He is probably so busy that he has very little time to browse these forums or other places. So you are essentially asking him to trust you on banning someone (going with this 30 second analogy).

He needs to look into it, and unfortunately it looks like he is just too damn busy, and has made other things a priority. Is this ideal, well no , I hate also to see any scammers be successful, but your stretching it saying this is intentional...

I almost feel like it's no point trying to explain this to you this since it's all pretty much said in the post of V.  We are in a hectic phase, with staff disappearing and people coming in from all doors...

I personally have no doubt that things will get better ...   You keep repeating this in many threads, do you really think THAT will make a difference... The active moderators must be already aware...

How about this;   Collect all the info /proof of Sellitall99 under one thread, so that when Defcon even if he is in hurry sees it, can see it pretty fast that something is definitely wrong...

Also someone did write this somewhere;  Even if forum moderators have now their hands tight behind their backs, if one of them has time, he/she could put the info together regarding scammers and present it to Defcon, making the decision for him easy...

But above all, just chill , karma will eventually anyhow do the tricks on people like Sellitall99 , there is no escaping . . .
 
This community needs more love less panic . . .

You don't understand man. I've been on this topic for DAYS.

Yesterday ChemCat assured me that it has been reported to Defcon multiple times. Do you understand that sellitall99 has many many items in the top of the bestselling lists? Do you understand he is making thousands every single day from scamming, and Silk Road staff still refuse to remove him? Even though EVERY SINGLE PERSON knows he is a scammer and it has been reported to the highest level of staff by the forum moderators multiple times?

What reason could there possibly be for not removing someone who is blatantly and obviously stealing thousands from this community every single day? It takes 30 seconds... what POSSIBLE reason could there be to let him stay? Please, educate me.

I just don't understand any more. The only reason can be that Silk Road love the commission this scammer is making for them. I cannot think of a single other reason why he is not banned. Please if you have any reason please tell me. And don't say they don't have time because that is not true there is no way someone cannot take 30 seconds to save this community being robbed for thousands EVERY SINGLE DAY.

So someone tell me now. What is the reason sellitall99 is allowed to stay?

[CharlieSh33n]

This is what I like to hear. Cheers fellas you are all doing a great job.

[cascas]

Just received a message from BTC Gold bragging about how easy it is to scam on Silk Road and he has had around 20 scam accounts and each one he has made 15-35k because Silk Road allows scammers.

You know what, can't actually blame him. Silk Road makes it easy for scammers and even when they are discovered they are allowed to stay.

You should rename SR to SP... Scammers Paradise.

[BoxofShapes]

The only problem I have with post is SR being compared to mcdonald's.

I get way better kids meals now.

[ahh bisto]

Something still is not right with this site, here is why=== The other day i demanded to know what Defcon had for breakfast and still to this day no response ??. Why didnt i get updated, why didnt i mod update me?
Make of that as you like but it seems really strange to me. I think its a scam and hes gonna run of with his corn flakes and not update us

[lightshinesthrough]

So someone tell me now. What is the reason sellitall99 is allowed to stay?

It was never as black and white as you made it sound like.  While I agree with you that it took too long to get this user banned, I still have understanding of the current situation with half the staff disappearing, and with only one guy at the wheel to do changes , while experiencing a lot of obstacles on running the site smoothly... Believe it or not , Defcon also probably has the other life to attend to ...

Rough times, but I believe it's all going to get lot better . . .

& now that excuse of a human being(Sellitall...) is banned, but he will resurface soon ...   If you want to be truly fighting the scammers you should be now ready to spot him early, make ONE thread, collect all the evidence there...   

Forum don't need several posts about one thing, as long as the active mods have got your ear , you can't do much more ...
 
Edit. Oh and I couldn't disagree with you more about BTC Gold.  There is ALL still to blame him , dude has no character , or spine to lean on to ... probably left many people with little money and only a  hope to get a better feeling within ...   It just tells you that he is truly trash hanging around here boasting , he is lonely and probably slightly sadistic...  lost kid with no morals ...   
Even if right now it's been too easy to run scams, it's still all to do with these 'beings' doing what they do ...  They will pay for their deeds, if they are truly ignorant , well then little less, but if they are fully aware how much 'wrong' they do , well they pay the full prize... That's how karma works and there is no escaping it  ... 
 

[StringerBell]

Great post V

You and the whole staff has my greatest sympathy, trust and respect.

Keep strong and you heads high.

Ice in you bellys and fire in the heart!

[r0guebubbles]

thanks for that clarification V, some people don't seem to understand that running a place like this isn't like running walmart

[YCWS]

Please unlock our vendor account

I will sacrafice a small goat for you