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I just want a definitive answer on why you allow scammers to continue trading on Silk Road.

Over the last 2 weeks I have seen tens of threads about people being scammed by sellitall99. Some for HUGE amounts. It's all over reddit too. Anyone who has used the vendor before knows they are based in Canada. But for around a month now they have been claiming to be UK based, with impossibly low prices. Yesterday they faked 18 feedbacks.

I make yet another thread about this vendor in Silk Road Discussion, for maximum visibility. One of the staff had the time to read the thread and decide to move it, yet cannot take 5 minutes to investigate these 18 transactions. I'm sure if you do it will become very obvious that this guy is a scammer... well it's already very obvious but if you want to be thorough just look at those 18 transactions.

I understand the development staff are busy... they should be, the site very rarely works as intended what with incorrect DDoS flag messages, captcha bugs, server overloads and just general downtime. But the staff that are not involved in development... what the hell are you doing all day that keeps you sooooooooooooooooo busy that you cannot take 5 minutes to investigate scammers? It really boggles the mind considering how good other sites have been at removing scammers, and SR is supposed to be the cream of the crop.

If the non-development staff really are so crippingly busy that they cannot do anything about scammers, why don't you employ someone to deal specifically with that? Seeing as DPR 2 bragged about millions and millions of dollars in cold storage escrow, I'm sure that you guys can afford it. If you can't, then perhaps you could explain to me why smaller sites can, because I am thoroughly confused.

I'm sure I'll get negative karma'd to hell for this thread, and that's such a shame that so many people just nuthug the SR team and will downvote me purely for challenging them. I don't want to cross SR or it's staff but these things need to be said and all I'm trying to do here is help this community. We need answers on why you insist on allowing scammers to stay active for as long as possible. It makes you look really, really bad.

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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2014, 12:03:01 pm »
Plenty of people share the same view point as you. Its unfortunate that these things are happening but the offical story is that only Defcon has access to the the site right now as the new moderators have not been granted access yet. Therefore there is a massive back log of support requests in general.

I don't understand why they don't push out the new support system and resolution centre before anything else. SR is usable as it is and the caucus of dissatisfied users is growing over this issue. Who the fuck cares about bulk reply being enabled when scumbags are making off with thousands a day?
« Last Edit: January 11, 2014, 12:04:02 pm by opportunity »

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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2014, 12:04:33 pm »
Ok

This is the very first time I have heard his name. I can not stand scammers...and I WILL get this one shut down. All WE need to do is the same thing we did to get rid of BTC Gold!!

FUCK SMAMMERS!

FUCK sellitall99

anf what really got my attention is he is from Canada...home to SILK ROADS BIGGEST SCAMMERS!!!

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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2014, 12:07:03 pm »
I just want a definitive answer on why you allow scammers to continue trading on Silk Road.

Over the last 2 weeks I have seen tens of threads about people being scammed by sellitall99. Some for HUGE amounts. It's all over reddit too. Anyone who has used the vendor before knows they are based in Canada. But for around a month now they have been claiming to be UK based, with impossibly low prices. Yesterday they faked 18 feedbacks.

I make yet another thread about this vendor in Silk Road Discussion, for maximum visibility. One of the staff had the time to read the thread and decide to move it, yet cannot take 5 minutes to investigate these 18 transactions. I'm sure if you do it will become very obvious that this guy is a scammer... well it's already very obvious but if you want to be thorough just look at those 18 transactions.

I understand the development staff are busy... they should be, the site very rarely works as intended what with incorrect DDoS flag messages, captcha bugs, server overloads and just general downtime. But the staff that are not involved in development... what the hell are you doing all day that keeps you sooooooooooooooooo busy that you cannot take 5 minutes to investigate scammers? It really boggles the mind considering how good other sites have been at removing scammers, and SR is supposed to be the cream of the crop.

If the non-development staff really are so crippingly busy that they cannot do anything about scammers, why don't you employ someone to deal specifically with that? Seeing as DPR 2 bragged about millions and millions of dollars in cold storage escrow, I'm sure that you guys can afford it. If you can't, then perhaps you could explain to me why smaller sites can, because I am thoroughly confused.

I'm sure I'll get negative karma'd to hell for this thread, and that's such a shame that so many people just nuthug the SR team and will downvote me purely for challenging them. I don't want to cross SR or it's staff but these things need to be said and all I'm trying to do here is help this community. We need answers on why you insist on allowing scammers to stay active for as long as possible. It makes you look really, really bad.

Staff are very busy and are working on a lot of things, including scammers.

Please be patient and for now i recommned people use the escrow system and do not FE if you are aworried about being scammed.

Also i recommned doing your research and searching the forums for feedback on vendors so you can see the warning signs that things may not be great with them.

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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2014, 12:13:03 pm »
I just want a definitive answer on why you allow scammers to continue trading on Silk Road.

Over the last 2 weeks I have seen tens of threads about people being scammed by sellitall99. Some for HUGE amounts. It's all over reddit too. Anyone who has used the vendor before knows they are based in Canada. But for around a month now they have been claiming to be UK based, with impossibly low prices. Yesterday they faked 18 feedbacks.

I make yet another thread about this vendor in Silk Road Discussion, for maximum visibility. One of the staff had the time to read the thread and decide to move it, yet cannot take 5 minutes to investigate these 18 transactions. I'm sure if you do it will become very obvious that this guy is a scammer... well it's already very obvious but if you want to be thorough just look at those 18 transactions.

I understand the development staff are busy... they should be, the site very rarely works as intended what with incorrect DDoS flag messages, captcha bugs, server overloads and just general downtime. But the staff that are not involved in development... what the hell are you doing all day that keeps you sooooooooooooooooo busy that you cannot take 5 minutes to investigate scammers? It really boggles the mind considering how good other sites have been at removing scammers, and SR is supposed to be the cream of the crop.

If the non-development staff really are so crippingly busy that they cannot do anything about scammers, why don't you employ someone to deal specifically with that? Seeing as DPR 2 bragged about millions and millions of dollars in cold storage escrow, I'm sure that you guys can afford it. If you can't, then perhaps you could explain to me why smaller sites can, because I am thoroughly confused.

I'm sure I'll get negative karma'd to hell for this thread, and that's such a shame that so many people just nuthug the SR team and will downvote me purely for challenging them. I don't want to cross SR or it's staff but these things need to be said and all I'm trying to do here is help this community. We need answers on why you insist on allowing scammers to stay active for as long as possible. It makes you look really, really bad.

Staff are very busy and are working on a lot of things, including scammers.

Please be patient and for now i recommned people use the escrow system and do not FE if you are aworried about being scammed.

Also i recommned doing your research and searching the forums for feedback on vendors so you can see the warning signs that things may not be great with them.

Escrow is there for your protection, happy shopping! :)

I have never been scammed I am always very careful and select vendors wisely. This thread is not about me. It's about the entire community.

A lot of SR users are not that clued up and pretty naive. I think 80%+ do not use the forums (this stat was released by DPR previously). These people see the attractive products and prices, see a page full of good feedback, and assume it's safe to order.

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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2014, 12:34:52 pm »
I know man it was directed to the general forums :)

It is a shame more customers do not use the forums, though i do believe a lot of the good vendors post a link to their review threads on the forums.

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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2014, 01:37:18 pm »
I've asked something similar myself.  The answer I was given is, basically, that they can't.  They don't have the necessary access to deal with it.  Extremely tight access control is, in this case, working against users.  I don't pay much attention these days, but I believe they're working on a system to handle this.  I have nothing to do with any of it and am just relaying what I've seen said around, but there's the info for what it's worth.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2014, 03:09:21 pm »
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2014, 04:19:49 pm »
regardless of who has access, and who does not, they should be able to make a list of confirmed and suspected scammers and ban or temporarily suspend the accounts until they can get a firm resolution.

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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2014, 04:23:23 pm »
There is no excuse for Sellitall99 not being at least suspended. His name has been on clearnet for over a week as a scammer, the entire dark web and clearnet knows about this guy. It cannot take more the 5 minutes to suspend an account and send a simple email. If it does take longer than that I have a serious lack of faith in the design of the site.
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2014, 04:25:38 pm »
At the very least defcon could put a warning up on the market greeting page to refer to a forum thread where scammers could be listed so people could make better decisions about who to deal with. Anything would be better than letting these motherfuckers run unchecked...

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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2014, 04:26:33 pm »
There is no excuse for Sellitall99 not being at least suspended. His name has been on clearnet for over a week as a scammer, the entire dark web and clearnet knows about this guy. It cannot take more the 5 minutes to suspend an account and send a simple email. If it does take longer than that I have a serious lack of faith in the design of the site.

Exactly this.

Well it looks like all the staff are off for the weekend anyway. So another weekend (peak order time) for this known scammer to grab some more BTC.

Sad.
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2014, 05:12:06 pm »
Hopefully soon there will be several moderators who can resolve these issues. 

I believe for the future it would be great to have one moderator in the market who's main concern would be to sniff out scammers and ban them. Everyone would know who to write to when a new suspect for scamming would arise , and this moderator would actually have time cause he/she wouldn't need to bother about forums or for anything else for that matter.
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2014, 05:14:32 pm »
There is no excuse for Sellitall99 not being at least suspended. His name has been on clearnet for over a week as a scammer, the entire dark web and clearnet knows about this guy. It cannot take more the 5 minutes to suspend an account and send a simple email. If it does take longer than that I have a serious lack of faith in the design of the site.

Exactly this.

Well it looks like all the staff are off for the weekend anyway. So another weekend (peak order time) for this known scammer to grab some more BTC.

Sad.

+1 for both of you..

It is shitty, they can still handle vendor registrations, but cant prune the shit ones off the market =/

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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2014, 06:19:26 pm »
FUCKING SERIOUSLY THIS PLACE IS INFESTED WITH SCAMMER ON BOTH SIDES. BTC Gold is still operating and he's laughing in everyones's face. I don't understand why nothing has been done.
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2014, 06:22:05 pm »
I understand this place is under new management but the old management made such a big deal about how they were going to be "the least scammer friendly market" etc.

For all the talk lately about how this place is having the most traffic ever, the most transactions ever, I haven't gotten a single sale in 5 days.

If they don't shut down these scams soon I am seriously worried whether there will be any customers left.

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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2014, 06:38:10 pm »
Add the vendor HADHERALL. She is also from Canada and had been scamming. I think this vendor sent someone some fake pills on sheep leading to the customers hopitilization. Ban HADHERALL too. These Canadians are just retards!

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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2014, 06:42:17 pm »
I understand this place is under new management but the old management made such a big deal about how they were going to be "the least scammer friendly market" etc.

For all the talk lately about how this place is having the most traffic ever, the most transactions ever, I haven't gotten a single sale in 5 days.

If they don't shut down these scams soon I am seriously worried whether there will be any customers left.

All this shit going on is definitely not helping business at all. Nothing is calming fears and most haven't been able to login for 2 days (myself). I'm going to find Green-Machine on Agora and get my pound over there, since I cant get into SR. Oh well...

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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2014, 06:54:50 pm »
For the SilkRoad support team to take any action in dealing with a scammer they need to investigate into their actions, their history and look over their accounts and this takes time and resources away from other duties. What we as a community can do is if someone wishes to bring the name of a scammer forward they should collect as much evidence as possible to help aid in the support team coming to a resolution faster. Create a details investigation yourself and when you report the name to the support staff you should submit your investigation to them all in the one message and then let it go from there.

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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2014, 07:05:51 pm »
Admins are actively working on creating counter-measures to prevent scamming.

At this time, there is not auto-finalizing.  Do not FE for a vendor you do not trust.  If you FE and get scammed there is absolutely nothing the admins can do until the dispute center is made.

I know you'd love everything to work 100% perfect right away with no work, but sadly, it doesn't work like that.

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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2014, 07:44:22 pm »
This guy is a known scammer from SR 1.0

http://silkroad6ownowfk.onion/users/whitedreams


White dreams took hundreds of thousands in an FE scam that ran for months and the staff did nothing to stop it.


I guess if you FE, its your own fault you got scammed but... SR should be actively getting rid of proven scammers. 


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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2014, 09:13:55 pm »
Fucking hell guys,

YES it's annoying that there are scammers operating, and YES it's annoying that staff are up to their eyeballs trying to tackle a backlog of support requests and claims of scamming vendors, implementing new features and updates, and keeping the community happy and satisfied...

...but if somebody really has got a name for themselves as a scammer who "everybody knows is a scammer", then really you should just not buy from them.

Avoiding scams is fairly easy if you just do a bit of research.

But unfortunately, those who don't are like the people who impulse-buy what they think is a "New iPhone IN Box" on ebay without reading the smallprint and seller feedback, then end up with an "New iPhone Box".

It really is a shame that folk are getting scammed. But until staff catch up (and they're doing a great job), take extra care. It's simple.
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2014, 02:47:47 am »
You people in this thread agreeing BUT great job fellas .....list excuses.. Fjdnnx..c......blah blah blah. Have an opinion for gods sake. They are not going to ban you for it. You deadset sound like political spin doctors....leave it at yeah its bit shit needs fixing. That's it final.  Enough dribble..oh no karma. I didn't mean it I'm a fan boi I really am.
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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2014, 04:03:32 am »
Plenty of people share the same view point as you. Its unfortunate that these things are happening but the offical story is that only Defcon has access to the the site right now as the new moderators have not been granted access yet. Therefore there is a massive back log of support requests in general.

I don't understand why they don't push out the new support system and resolution centre before anything else. SR is usable as it is and the caucus of dissatisfied users is growing over this issue. Who the fuck cares about bulk reply being enabled when scumbags are making off with thousands a day?

Wait, I have not read that yet about Defcon being the only person with access to the site? We don't even know who Defcon is. That seems so suspect. Why don't other people have access to make important things happen? It seems like a lack of checks and balances for Defcon/Dpr3 or whatever. And with the SR site right now being the most shitty operating of the lot of Darkweb markets, I can't help but call foul. Wtf?
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2014, 04:15:39 am »
Quite literally, the previous people with admin access to the market had to dox themselves. This was their undoing.

The UI must be in place before the mods can begin working on the backlog and taking care of scammers as it doesn't allow for backend access. I would prefer that this wait to be in place instead of me providing IRL details about myself to Defcon. It is a high priority for him to finish, but it is not an easy task. He knows/expects me to try and exploit it since that's just who I am. Security of this information is paramount.
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« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2014, 04:21:02 am »
Ok

This is the very first time I have heard his name. I can not stand scammers...and I WILL get this one shut down. All WE need to do is the same thing we did to get rid of BTC Gold!!

FUCK SMAMMERS!

FUCK sellitall99

anf what really got my attention is he is from Canada...home to SILK ROADS BIGGEST SCAMMERS!!!

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« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2014, 04:31:26 am »
Seems like everyone is getting scammed one way or another lately on SR.

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« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2014, 05:02:19 am »
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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2014, 05:16:48 am »
Quite literally, the previous people with admin access to the market had to dox themselves. This was their undoing.

The UI must be in place before the mods can begin working on the backlog and taking care of scammers as it doesn't allow for backend access. I would prefer that this wait to be in place instead of me providing IRL details about myself to Defcon. It is a high priority for him to finish, but it is not an easy task. He knows/expects me to try and exploit it since that's just who I am. Security of this information is paramount.

So this site is being run by 1 person with untrusted mods that are expected to exploit the system?  Now I feel safe.

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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2014, 05:22:01 am »
Quite literally, the previous people with admin access to the market had to dox themselves. This was their undoing.

The UI must be in place before the mods can begin working on the backlog and taking care of scammers as it doesn't allow for backend access. I would prefer that this wait to be in place instead of me providing IRL details about myself to Defcon. It is a high priority for him to finish, but it is not an easy task. He knows/expects me to try and exploit it since that's just who I am. Security of this information is paramount.

So this site is being run by 1 person with untrusted mods that are expected to exploit the system?  Now I feel safe.

That's what I just wrote, if this site is being run by one person then it's a fucking JOKE at best and a complete scam at worst. I have yet to hear different, as none of the forum moederators have ANY power on the market, no even to ban confirmed scammers. They just "pass the info along" to defcon. This is reallllllly starting to smell like bullshit. There is no GOOD reason for not having more Administration.
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« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2014, 05:23:15 am »
In my opinion the mods are mainly concerned with BTC withdrawal/deposits and site security. Once the site is stable I am sure they will focus on the scammers. They are working behind hard on the current issues at hand. 90% of members are complaining on the slow BTC deposits and it seems they have somewhat fixed it. Everyone just needs to relax and let the men/women do their jobs.

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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2014, 05:24:05 am »
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Quite literally, the previous people with admin access to the market had to dox themselves. This was their undoing.

The UI must be in place before the mods can begin working on the backlog and taking care of scammers as it doesn't allow for backend access. I would prefer that this wait to be in place instead of me providing IRL details about myself to Defcon. It is a high priority for him to finish, but it is not an easy task. He knows/expects me to try and exploit it since that's just who I am. Security of this information is paramount.

So this site is being run by 1 person with untrusted mods that are expected to exploit the system?  Now I feel safe.


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« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2014, 05:35:11 am »
I might not know how they work but I certainly see how this one isn't.  There's been no one that's been able to help with marketplace support in about a month.  Nobody can or will help with scammers, pin/password resets or anything else that is marketplace related.  We just keep being told over and over again to be patient and we will eventually be dealt with.  Defcon does not explain why.  The mods say they cant do anything.  According to the marketplace Support has not been seen in 11 days. 

But I have no clue eh?

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« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2014, 05:35:37 am »
Quite literally, the previous people with admin access to the market had to dox themselves. This was their undoing.

The UI must be in place before the mods can begin working on the backlog and taking care of scammers as it doesn't allow for backend access. I would prefer that this wait to be in place instead of me providing IRL details about myself to Defcon. It is a high priority for him to finish, but it is not an easy task. He knows/expects me to try and exploit it since that's just who I am. Security of this information is paramount.

So this site is being run by 1 person with untrusted mods that are expected to exploit the system?  Now I feel safe.

That's what I just wrote, if this site is being run by one person then it's a fucking JOKE at best and a complete scam at worst. I have yet to hear different, as none of the forum moederators have ANY power on the market, no even to ban confirmed scammers. They just "pass the info along" to defcon. This is reallllllly starting to smell like bullshit. There is no GOOD reason for not having more Administration.

WD30 and DangerDan, I am sorry but I think you are reading into this wrong and are not understanding the complexity that goes into running a marketplace such as one of these, the moderators do not have access because there is nothing for them to access, the entire website was built up from the ground so there is nothing for the administrators to pass on such as, go to this URL " http://silkroad6ownowfk.onion/admin " with the user-name admin and password of password. This isn't the same Wordpress.

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« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2014, 05:45:06 am »
So even Defcon cant help with scammers, pin/password resets or anything else that is marketplace related?  DPR2 left us in a situation where nobody can do anything?

The ONLY reason anyone is putting up with what's going on around here is the name of the site.  If it was named anything else everyone would have long since cleared out.  Don't get me wrong, I hope it gets better.  I need it to and have a lot riding on it.  I just wish I had a reason to be optimistic other than the reputation the name of this site used to have.
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« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2014, 05:51:32 am »
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I might not know how they work but I certainly see how this one isn't.  There's been no one that's been able to help with marketplace support in about a month. Answer: You do not See what's behind the scenes

Nobody can or will help with scammers, pin/password resets or anything else that is marketplace related. See Above

 We just keep being told over and over again to be patient and we will eventually be dealt with.  Defcon does not explain why.
Answer: No one Owes you an Explanation, Everything is Being worked on Faster than Ever seen Before

 The mods say they cant do anything.  According to the marketplace Support has not been seen in 11 days. 
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« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2014, 05:53:05 am »
I would like to thanks to all the moderators who are doing what they do so we can enjoy buying/selling drugs over the internet. Remember, they dont have to do any of this for us


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« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2014, 05:59:51 am »
I would like to thanks to all the moderators who are doing what they do so we can enjoy buying/selling drugs over the internet. Remember, they dont have to do any of this for us


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« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2014, 06:06:22 am »
Chem I love ya but all you are doing is twisting my words around.  But at the same time you aren't denying what I'm saying either.

Nobody has been able to help with marketplace issues in about a month.  Am I wrong?  I know I don't see what happens behind the scenes but am I wrong?

To see more and more time go by while deadline after deadline goes by unfulfilled and not expect people to get increasingly frustrated might be more delusional than I am. 

We are slowly transitioning from the mods telling us to be patient to now being told we are not owed an explanation.  When do things finally get to the point where we are bluntly told to deal with whats going on or go away no matter how much money we've lost or how long we've been locked out of our accounts?

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« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2014, 06:20:58 am »
No one is criticizing anyone.

I Love ya to WD30  :)

However...There Has been Plenty of help From Support within the Past Month, It's just that people don't see it, There have been some people helped when Support has been able to take the time away from Security issues. Believe me, i know..it seems like nothing gets done..but look at how many users don't even take this time to Learn how to Properly/Correctly do things...ya know?

I'll stick by what i said about the explanations ...For the Sake of the Marketplace OPSEC.

I'll be honest with ya, Right now i feel like pulling my hair out...if i could go in and fix all of these things for everyone, i would..but i can't.

Believe me...when it's all said and done..Everyone will be happy and able to go about their business..but when Support gets 12 or more msg's per day from the same person/people..well that clogs things up...ya know?

Feel free to curse me out if ya want to, that won't bother me at all :)

I'm just sayin...in order for things to keep running and for Support to get everything done...it will take some time and the patience & cooperation of Everyone...As a Family, we really need to understand this.

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« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2014, 06:30:11 am »
Unfortunately if u look at it from this angle, SR2 benefits from scammers. The reason being that they get to keep the bond. Its not as if the bond is refunded to the scam victims.

Also scammers are flagged by admin based on bad feedback reviews. Thus, I cant emphasize enough that people stop providing immediate 5/5 feedback marked " FE for a trusted vendor". That allows potential scammers a longer window to continue scamming since the immediate feed back provider can not change the feedback score. Now u r giving the scammer ample to time to exceed, via theft, what he paid for the bond.

Do not provide feedback until you receive, or dont receive, your package. We the buyers are only perpetuating the scams with our stupidity!!!

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« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2014, 03:18:29 pm »
Everyone honestly needs to stop complaining and realise that you're in no way obligated to stay on this site to purchase your illegal drugs.
You could always head over to sheep mar....shit, or maybe go to Tormar.....Oh right they scammed the fuck out of everyone as well while SR stayed legit through all the tough times. FFS, 3 weeks ago we lost our Mods and the whole site was turned upside down. These new ones are doing the best they can and i for one would much rather a safe and secure site, than all of the crew spending their time weeding out the obvious and not so obvious scammers. All so that people who refuse to do their own research on these forums dont get ripped off.
If you see a vendor that has 'SALE SALE 1 OZ FISHSCALE ONLY $400 FE PRICE SALE SALE'. It's probably a good idea to give that one a miss.
If a reputable vendor turns rogue, there's nothing that can really be done about that, but i gaurentee you It will be up on these forums extra quickly.
Everywhere you go there are going to be scams, In real life and from personal experience, dealers can knock you out and take your money/possesions or pull a gun on you etc. I know i'd much rather some random run off with some of my bitcoins than any of that danger. Stop taking all of this all for granted. It's up to every individual to check these forums and do their own research instead of expecting to be babied into every purchase. Especially after all the shit that went down 3 weeks ago. Give the brothers some time.
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« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2014, 03:22:07 pm »

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« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2014, 02:45:15 am »
Why are you editing my posts like that? Seems a bit out of line?

Just found out that SR staff allowed BTC Gold to steal $120k from the community by allowing him to continue scamming long after he was outed as a scammer.

Another one to add to the list.

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« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2014, 02:50:49 am »
Dude, that was yesterday, and you just now notice it?

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« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2014, 02:53:16 am »
No I just want to know what makes you think it's ok to edit my post like that and sign it off as yourself?

I didn't notice it because in the thread list it shows me as the last poster, so I don't recheck the thread...

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« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2014, 03:00:24 am »
If scammers exist on SRM and continue to scam, then maybe those who get scammed will finally learn to not FE. If it takes a scam to teach you your lesson, then so be it.

I do believe SR's method of dealing with scammers needs to be streamlined. But i dont really have any suggestions to improve.

Why doesnt everyone use the forums?! i will never understand why people will ignore this wealth of knowledge and discussions. Especially when it could make a difference in your wallet.
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« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2014, 03:01:09 am »
Ugh..i really don't feel like arguing right now, i thought we were over that  :-\

I meant to just add to what you said, not fuck up your whole Post...

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« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2014, 03:03:36 am »
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If scammers exist on SRM and continue to scam, then maybe those who get scammed will finally learn to not FE. If it takes a scam to teach you your lesson, then so be it.

I do believe SR's method of dealing with scammers needs to be streamlined. But i dont really have any suggestions to improve.

Why doesnt everyone use the forums?! i will never understand why people will ignore this wealth of knowledge and discussions. Especially when it could make a difference in your wallet.

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« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2014, 03:05:21 am »
What you said doesn't even make sense. How am I supposed to educate the 90% of users that DON'T use the forum? I have no way to communicate with them.

No we are not ok. You have spent the entire day trolling and antagonizing me when all I am trying to do is bring real issues to the forefront and help the community.

You should not be a moderator at Silk Road. You are extremely unprofessional and extremely childish.

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