So what constitutes a member to be "Banned"

[Bleeder69]

Like others, I have a small group of people i know irl that come to the markets. Some spend thousands a week. like my friend who was banned here a couple of days ago.
With the shitstorm that was going on here over the last week, there was a lot of worrying about security and honesty. TThere was a thread going on about the state of affairs here and if the moderators felt secure.
ChemCat wrote that she/he was not going anywhere, she/he would go down with the ship because the people on this forum was her/his "family".
My friend wrote something to the effect of is your life that pathetic you think people on a drug discussion board are your family? And the he/she should really think abou their safety more seriously. now my friend is a little rough around the edges (not a "hugz" and 'kisses" guy) but in no way he was being malicious. And actually was looking out for her/his safety.
Well within seconds Chemcat banned his account. Is that ban worthy? Doesn't that look like chemcat is too thinned skinned to be a moderator?
Shit Ross used to get abused and he never was ban crazy. he mighta wanted to whack a few but c'mon.
Silk Road new forum has become one big clique and i believe these moderators are abusing their powers. same as a cop. They preach tolerance but show zero tolerance.
My friend won't come back here. its not the only game in town anymore. And its turned off myself and my other friends that use these markets.
Shit rolls downhill so the site and market is a reflection of the management in charge.
Now, what constututes a banning? Everytime a moderator gets their feeling hurt?

[WickedWords]

Whether or not this deserved banning - and I don't believe it did - you have to consider that it's members like ChemCat who have helped make this community what it is today.

And what your friend said - whether it was meant as offensive or not - was, in my eyes, too harsh.

I have thick skin, and it would have rolled off me like nobody's business.

But really, what was your friend trying to achieve by basically stating that ChemCat's family wasn't his family?

[knuckles]

I don't know what constitutes getting banned, but I will say it is getting a bit tiring of all the trolling,spamming and negativity from people. Right now all the shit stirrers may be LE dividing us up.

It doesn't matter what Ross did before, this isn't his ship anymore.

Your friends first mistake is thinking any of the mods are here for his safety. He should be the one doing his own opsec. Anyone can take a shit of the mods, talk shit, spoute hate and so on.

If people really wanted to help themselves and SR, then start coming up with solutions, rather than just complaining and putting down people.

[Bleeder69]

Whether or not this deserved banning - and I don't believe it did - you have to consider that it's members like ChemCat who have helped make this community what it is today.

And what your friend said - whether it was meant as offensive or not - was, in my eyes, too harsh.

I have thick skin, and it would have rolled off me like nobody's business.

But really, what was your friend trying to achieve by basically stating that ChemCat's family wasn't his family?

I know this guy irl for 30 years. his point was to say "hey, don't be foolish" in his own way. and thinking people on a drug forum are family is dilussional. They are not your family. most here would fold and rat like ross did.
but if you believe its family or not, that is only an opinion. He didmt dox, threatened and distrubed the functions of the board. he spoke his opinion. Im asking if a moderator has a different opinion does that give them the right to bn them? even if they feel insulted? sounds like abusiove power to me. who else does that..oh yeah, the cops.

[Bleeder69]

I don't know what constitutes getting banned, but I will say it is getting a bit tiring of all the trolling,spamming and negativity from people. Right now all the shit stirrers may be LE dividing us up.

It doesn't matter what Ross did before, this isn't his ship anymore.

Your friends first mistake is thinking any of the mods are here for his safety. He should be the one doing his own opsec. Anyone can take a shit of the mods, talk shit, spoute hate and so on.

If people really wanted to help themselves and SR, then start coming up with solutions, rather than just complaining and putting down people.

Where did i say he came here tk chemcat was supposed to worry about his safety? what you are talking about? but isn't a mod here to protect members?

yes a lot of negativity, you can't see why? and even during smooth seas during sr1, there was always trolls. every board has trolls.
and it is their ship. my point is it hypocritical to preach libertarianism and tolerance  then ban member for "hurting their feelings" when in fact he was just trying to give him advice, his way. are we "individuals "?

[Bleeder69]

just called him, new SR user name was "bugs". i won't reveal his old name but he was quite popular. in a postive way.

[Consumer]

Like others, I have a small group of people i know irl that come to the markets. Some spend thousands a week. like my friend who was banned here a couple of days ago.
With the shitstorm that was going on here over the last week, there was a lot of worrying about security and honesty. TThere was a thread going on about the state of affairs here and if the moderators felt secure.
ChemCat wrote that she/he was not going anywhere, she/he would go down with the ship because the people on this forum was her/his "family".
My friend wrote something to the effect of is your life that pathetic you think people on a drug discussion board are your family? And the he/she should really think abou their safety more seriously. now my friend is a little rough around the edges (not a "hugz" and 'kisses" guy) but in no way he was being malicious. And actually was looking out for her/his safety.
Well within seconds Chemcat banned his account. Is that ban worthy? Doesn't that look like chemcat is too thinned skinned to be a moderator?
Shit Ross used to get abused and he never was ban crazy. he mighta wanted to whack a few but c'mon.
Silk Road new forum has become one big clique and i believe these moderators are abusing their powers. same as a cop. They preach tolerance but show zero tolerance.
My friend won't come back here. its not the only game in town anymore. And its turned off myself and my other friends that use these markets.
Shit rolls downhill so the site and market is a reflection of the management in charge.
Now, what constututes a banning? Everytime a moderator gets their feeling hurt?

If what you are saying is true then the mod was no doubt abusing his/her power.

[AbraxasRiseth]

Well dude when you're at a bar or restaurant or club, the staff can kick you out for being personally rude to them even though they don't own the place.

Don't be rude to the people's who's house you're a guest in.

[Radius2000]

Well dude when you're at a bar or restaurant or club, the staff can kick you out for being personally rude to them even though they don't own the place.

Don't be rude to the people's who's house you're a guest in.

I was gonna reply by saying "just don't be a dick!" but AbraxasRiseth said it better than I could.

[John Gotti]

So being a dick is a bannable offense? What's the sites defintion of being a dick? Is there a fine line between trolling, negative feedback, questioning sites authority or not ass kissing?

Bleeder, you get what you pay for. It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

It's their site, Don't like it, find one you do.

[StringerBell]

I read it, bear in mind it was an explosive and decisive moment for this community, your friend was nothing else than extremely disrespectful.
Maybe it wasn't enough reason for a ban but in the end we are all humans and have emotions.

It's not like the person ain't able to create another account, I mean come on, what the fuck are we bitching about here? An account
on a anon drugboard, it's not like he was banned from the royal tennis club

[John Gotti]

And i'm sure many here are good people but we don't really know each other. how about that guy who kidnapped and locked those girls up in that house in clevland? no one knew what he was doing. one of us might be a killer, a child rapist, someone who beats their wife and kids, deadbeat drug addict father etc.
Being italian we know we don't take lightly the meaning of family. you can find great friends here perhaps, but family, no.
People are going to have different views and opinions. I don't think the guiy should of been banned for saying that if that is true. but we didn't hear the other side.

[John Gotti]

I read it, bear in mind it was an explosive and decisive moment for this community, your friend was nothing else than extremely disrespectful.
Maybe it wasn't enough reason for a ban but in the end we are all humans and have emotions.

It's not like the person ain't able to create another account, I mean come on, what the fuck are we bitching about here? An account
on a anon drugboard, it's not like he was banned from the royal tennis club

would you want to go to a place where you can't be yourself?
i was a moderator on forums awhile back. and i banned members that pissed me off. turned a lot of members against me because no maatter how you sugar coat it, people know you can dish it out but can't take it and you abuse your powers then respect.
it's management, plain and simple. am establishment is a reflection of the management and how they run it. Its not easy and does require skill and thick skin.

[sunghajung]

Does anyone know if hellbaning is used at all here?

[sunghajung]

Does anyone know if hellbaning is used at all here?

hmm.  must be. I'm invisible aren't I?

[TheBubbleDreamer]

What is hellbanning?

[sunghajung]

What is hellbanning?

Might be old and redundant but it was where a mod would ban someone and to all other members he or she was invisible.
To the banned member they could still post etc.  But they were the only ones who could see themselves.   So invisible to all but
themselves. 

[Cirrus]

Generally the only things that would cause a member's account from being banned are the following:

-Posting anything that could harm/defraud anyone, ie: doxxing, posting threats of harm against another, or misleading members with usernames similar to moderators/admins for the purpose of scamming others.
-Posting child pornography, although discussions about it are allowed. 
-Spamming the boards or attempting to advertise products for sale without being a paid vendor.
-Out of Escrow (OOE) transactions.

These are the majority of offenses that could results in an account being banned and as you can see they have nothing to do with one's personal opinion or a personal attack against a moderator.  PM me the members name and I can look into what happened to your friend. 

[John Gotti]

Now that's handling it correctly.

Generally the only things that would cause a member's account from being banned are the following:

-Posting anything that could harm/defraud anyone, ie: doxxing, posting threats of harm against another, or misleading members with usernames similar to moderators/admins for the purpose of scamming others.
-Posting child pornography, although discussions about it are allowed. 
-Spamming the boards or attempting to advertise products for sale without being a paid vendor.
-Out of Escrow (OOE) transactions.

These are the majority of offenses that could results in an account being banned and as you can see they have nothing to do with one's personal opinion or a personal attack against a moderator.  PM me the members name and I can look into what happened to your friend.

just called him, new SR user name was "bugs". i won't reveal his old name but he was quite popular. in a postive way.

[Cirrus]

Got it- thanks

[Bleeder69]

His new name was Bugs. And why did this thread get moved to the "Off Topic" forum? The subject is on topic.
What's going on with this place? really? How this this "Off Topic"? LOL I'm talking about the rules of Silk Road!

OMG someone is trying to save face and brush this under the cappet. why not just delete and censor?

[Bleeder69]

What is hellbanning?

Might be old and redundant but it was where a mod would ban someone and to all other members he or she was invisible.
To the banned member they could still post etc.  But they were the only ones who could see themselves.   So invisible to all but
themselves.

that is old. i think cold fusion formats

[Bleeder69]

and some might be asking why this was moved to the off topic. well its to protect the moderators  and to sweep it under the rug.
What i found out is this board is VERY censored, you hit a nerve with a mod they will ban you then act stupid. this has and will chase a lot of people from using the forums. that hurts the community. less people using the forums, less information and feedback will be posted.

and PLEASE stop using the coachella as an excuse. people aren't buying it then question anything else this site says as credible.

this all reminds me of politicians, the people we are supposely are against because they do this type of shit.

good night

[John Gotti]

Are you fucking kidding me? They moved this to the OFF TOPIC section! Holy shit that make the staff look worse than rather work it out. it takes a man to admit when they are wrong. little boys lie, hide and sneak

Read the replies in this thread. I was giving the board the benefit of the doubt. now.... MARRON!!!!!

man, word is bond where i live. you don't have your word, you ain't worth shit.

[Abby]

On the old sr forum (iirc) only topics relating to the marketplace were allowed in the Silk Road forum.  Anything to do with the forum itself went into off topic.  Which is what seems to have happened here.

A more prosaic answer than a conspiracy to silence people but hey ho.

[John Gotti]

Generally the only things that would cause a member's account from being banned are the following:

-Posting anything that could harm/defraud anyone, ie: doxxing, posting threats of harm against another, or misleading members with usernames similar to moderators/admins for the purpose of scamming others.
-Posting child pornography, although discussions about it are allowed. 
-Spamming the boards or attempting to advertise products for sale without being a paid vendor.
-Out of Escrow (OOE) transactions.

These are the majority of offenses that could results in an account being banned and as you can see they have nothing to do with one's personal opinion or a personal attack against a moderator.  PM me the members name and I can look into what happened to your friend.

Add "Telling ChemCat forum members aren't his family"


Did I really write that? is that actually true? or is this scotch that good? This is like bio world. lol

[John Gotti]

On the old sr forum (iirc) only topics relating to the marketplace were allowed in the Silk Road forum.  Anything to do with the forum itself went into off topic.  Which is what seems to have happened here.

A more prosaic answer than a conspiracy to silence people but hey ho.

yeah huh?

[worth-strut]

sounds like the mod might have overreacted but so might alot of people saying what your friend said. all human

[Bleeder69]

sounds like the mod might have overreacted but so might alot of people saying what your friend said. all human

That's the thing. Do you really think it was that bad? i really don't and actually think its ridiculous. That wouldn't have upset me at all. especially all the other trolling thats been going on, the nigger joke threads, raping children threads, all members not banned. but to be banned for hurting a modferators feeling is really bizarre. And I don't understand how some think it was really bad compared to the other things posted here.

[Bleeder69]

Generally the only things that would cause a member's account from being banned are the following:

-Posting anything that could harm/defraud anyone, ie: doxxing, posting threats of harm against another, or misleading members with usernames similar to moderators/admins for the purpose of scamming others.
-Posting child pornography, although discussions about it are allowed. 
-Spamming the boards or attempting to advertise products for sale without being a paid vendor.
-Out of Escrow (OOE) transactions.

These are the majority of offenses that could results in an account being banned and as you can see they have nothing to do with one's personal opinion or a personal attack against a moderator.  PM me the members name and I can look into what happened to your friend.

Add "Telling ChemCat forum members aren't his family"


Did I really write that? is that actually true? or is this scotch that good? This is like bio world. lol

Hahahahaha Does anyone read some of the shit that is posted. the "nigger" joke thread, child porn threads, the racial and religious attacks...and someone gets banned for that?
We all can get caught up in a moment but a real man would admit he was wrong than brush it under the table and save face.