Is Cirrus fit to be a moderator?

[KITNOF]

So Cirrus just deleted/locked a thread which was aimed at discussing the possibility of harming the law enforcement officers who target the SR community. Cirrus claimed that "any thing that is meant to harm or defraud any person is strictly against our policies."

Before I start this rant, I would like to make it clear that I fully support SR2.0. I have dealt with many administrators over my 2 years of using the SR1 forums and have also engaged in conversation with many moderators on the current forum. To date, I have not had anything negative to say about any administrators.

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Firstly, Cirrus - as far as I can recall, the policies of SR were that no one was allowed to sell anything that harmed another person. AT NO POINT was the discussion of harming others disallowed. I believe both DPR1 and DPR2 made it clear that all forum users had the right to freedom of speech. Have you not just taken that away from everyone in that thread for absolutely no reason?

Secondly, you claim that our discussion infringed "our policies". OUR POLICIES? You mean the policies that DPR2 adopted from DPR1, right? Do you know what both DPR1 and 2 have in common? They are both strongly supportive of Libertarianism. So, I find it very fucking hard to believe that they created a policy which gives you the right to remove a Libertarian-based conversation. Do you even know what the non-aggression principle is, Cirrus?

Thirdly, you claimed that our discussion was "moronic and not condoned in any fashion". So as an administrator of SR2, you believe it is moronic to propose methods for ridding society of LE oppression?

As much as I love SR and everything it stands for, mods like Cirrus make me sick.

[CrazyBart]

Nobody feed the Troll

[knuckles]

If Cirrus is taking down posts saying to suicide bomb other people , then yes, I think that he is fit to be a moderator.

[KITNOF]

Nobody feed the Troll

Glad to see that you were able to compose an intellectual response.

[KITNOF]

If Cirrus is taking down posts saying to suicide bomb other people , then yes, I think that he is fit to be a moderator.

Ross wouldn't have removed a post that supported Libertarianism. Remember buddy, Ross made Cirrus.

[knuckles]

If Cirrus is taking down posts saying to suicide bomb other people , then yes, I think that he is fit to be a moderator.

Ross wouldn't have removed a post that supported Libertarianism. Remember buddy, Ross made Cirrus.

What your supporting isn't Libertarianism. It's terrorism.

[KITNOF]

If Cirrus is taking down posts saying to suicide bomb other people , then yes, I think that he is fit to be a moderator.

Ross wouldn't have removed a post that supported Libertarianism. Remember buddy, Ross made Cirrus.

What your supporting isn't Libertarianism. It's terrorism.

If it is my opinion that a violent approach is necessary to ridding society of LE oppression, then I am entitled to that opinion.
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

[xollero]

Nobody feed the Troll

Glad to see that you were able to compose an intellectual response.

Oh come on now. There's nothing intellectual or libertarian in talking shit about smokin da pigs.  Every time there are some busts we see the same thing - the same armchair commandos engaging in the same masturbatory revenge fantasies. It's a classic circle jerk and it achieves nothing. Even if you were Commandante Kitnof and in a position to get some wetwork actually happening, as opposed to typing about it, it would be tactically retarded and would invite the entire apparatus of the state to come crashing down on the communities perceived responsible, in a way that would make current LE interest and activity look positively trifling. 

Seriously, if you want to engage in adolescent fantasy, don't try to dress it up in high idealism. "Libertarian-based conversation" -- really dude?

[DrMDA]

When George Washington murdered a bunch of law enforcement he got labeled a hero.

If you win your war you are a hero, if you lose you are the devil. That is how history writing is done.

[5hydroxytryptophan]

What does it take to become a mod?  Certainly we want mods that are fair, honest, and loyal to the cause, and at the same time we need mods that can prove that they would be fit in terms of OPSEC and technically savy enough to be at the controls.  They ideally should be untraceable in real life, or virtually for that matter, to any of those who have been taken down, becase there is a saying that the police know well, "everyone rolls" or talks once they are caught.  I personally know people who are on long bids or did hard time because they didn't roll, but of course they are away now for a long ass time.   I can't speak for Cirrus, but I really hope that the "up and coming mods" are, at a minimum, all of the above and certainly not physically in the surveillence state of Uncle Sam.

[KITNOF]

I guess SR truly has turned too mainstream - even on the forums. Gone are the days where this place truly was a Libertarian haven.

I would like to ask that a mod please delete my account. This place isn't for me anymore.

[Silent Gooomba]

You suggested blowing up senior citizens and children.
Thats the exact opposite of trying to rid SR of LE. That attracts it.
You sir are an idiot and cirrus did you a favor by deleting that topic.

[Mr.X]

I guess SR truly has turned too mainstream - even on the forums. Gone are the days where this place truly was a Libertarian haven.

I would like to ask that a mod please delete my account. This place isn't for me anymore.

If too many people start talking about harming LE on here (even hypothetically), then said LE may put more effort into shutting down SR. No SR= no job for cirrus. Make sense? You are entitled to your opinion, however this is the wrong place to express it. I'm sure you can find another forum to talk about these ideas

[KITNOF]

You suggested blowing up senior citizens and children.
Thats the exact opposite of trying to rid SR of LE. That attracts it.
You sir are an idiot and cirrus did you a favor by deleting that topic.

Stfu. Seriously, just leave. Your point makes no sense.

[KITNOF]

I guess SR truly has turned too mainstream - even on the forums. Gone are the days where this place truly was a Libertarian haven.

I would like to ask that a mod please delete my account. This place isn't for me anymore.

If too many people start talking about harming LE on here (even hypothetically), then said LE may put more effort into shutting down SR. No SR= no job for cirrus. Make sense? You are entitled to your opinion, however this is the wrong place to express it. I'm sure you can find another forum to talk about these ideas

That is the dumbest thing I have read in a while. They are already putting in the maximum fucking effort to shut down SR. I can't even be bothered to finish typing my reply. You sir, are a fucking moron.

[Magic Man]

  Look OP your entitled to your own opinion but the whole point of deleting that thread is most likely because we have several journalists active in this community and our community is watched closely by every media outlet in existence.
  Wishing harm upon a Law official is just plain stupid and very childish to be blunt. It shines a very negative view on us, you must understand these people are just doing their job.
  Cirrus is a great moderator and you should be glad all he did was delete your thread because I personally would have banned you.

[Mr.X]

I guess SR truly has turned too mainstream - even on the forums. Gone are the days where this place truly was a Libertarian haven.

I would like to ask that a mod please delete my account. This place isn't for me anymore.

If too many people start talking about harming LE on here (even hypothetically), then said LE may put more effort into shutting down SR. No SR= no job for cirrus. Make sense? You are entitled to your opinion, however this is the wrong place to express it. I'm sure you can find another forum to talk about these ideas

That is the dumbest thing I have read in a while. They are already putting in the maximum fucking effort to shut down SR. I can't even be bothered to finish typing my reply. You sir, are a fucking moron.

Although I'm sure LE is working diligently on trying to shut down SR after they mocked them by coming back online a month after they were shut down, I feel that Law Enforcement agencies are working harder on stopping the more violent drug criminals like gangs and whatnot.

P.S: you have penetrated Mr.X's chiseled and muscular exterior and hurt his feelings  . I guess I am feeding the troll. I'll stop now. I could be wrong, but those are my two cents on the matter

[aussieoutlaw]

To be a mod you must be verified by compromised mods.

[xandermanreturns]

So much IDEALISM for an "online hidden drug market place". Jesus christ i wonder how many people really take themselves so serious IRL.

[vince]

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[malycalypsejr]

I guess SR truly has turned too mainstream - even on the forums. Gone are the days where this place truly was a Libertarian haven.

I would like to ask that a mod please delete my account. This place isn't for me anymore.

If too many people start talking about harming LE on here (even hypothetically), then said LE may put more effort into shutting down SR. No SR= no job for cirrus. Make sense? You are entitled to your opinion, however this is the wrong place to express it. I'm sure you can find another forum to talk about these ideas

  There is, it's called torchan.

[TwistedNine]

well freedom of speech isnt "mindlessly say anything you want".. remember middle school social studies when they said, "you have freedom of speech, within reason." "within reason" means that you cant walk into a crowded movie theater and yell "FIRE!" when there is no fire.. you cant speak something with the intent to incite a panic/riot/hysteria.

I guess SR truly has turned too mainstream - even on the forums. Gone are the days where this place truly was a Libertarian haven.

I would like to ask that a mod please delete my account. This place isn't for me anymore.

If too many people start talking about harming LE on here (even hypothetically), then said LE may put more effort into shutting down SR. No SR= no job for cirrus. Make sense? You are entitled to your opinion, however this is the wrong place to express it. I'm sure you can find another forum to talk about these ideas

That is the dumbest thing I have read in a while. They are already putting in the maximum fucking effort to shut down SR. I can't even be bothered to finish typing my reply. You sir, are a fucking moron.

and yet you still finished typing.. ha.

by the way, if you want to seem more intellectual (as you clearly enjoy pretending to be), try not typing "fuck(ing)" every other word or "fucking moron" for anyone opposing your perspective.

[vince]

http://textfiles.com/anarchy/

[Akon]

well freedom of speech isnt "mindlessly say anything you want".. remember middle school social studies when they said, "you have freedom of speech, within reason." "within reason" means that you cant walk into a crowded movie theater and yell "FIRE!" when there is no fire.. you cant speak something with the intent to incite a panic/riot/hysteria.

What? You compare freedom of speech from middle school to libertians freedom of speech? Freedom of speech should not cencur anything, even if it racism agains a minority. The point of freedom is to express anything, and other can express the same thing against you.

                                               " Freedom of speech is the political right to communicate one's opinions
                                                  and ideas using one's body and property to anyone who is willing to receive them"

From wikipedia

If too many people start talking about harming LE on here (even hypothetically), then said LE may put more effort into shutting down SR. No SR= no job for cirrus. Make sense? You are entitled to your opinion, however this is the wrong place to express it. I'm sure you can find another forum to talk about these ideas

That is just wrong! There is a reason why he have a CP thread. FBI make rational decitions, they dont act out of emotions! At least most of them!


But i agree it seems childish to discuss murdering police. But if there is people with that set of mind, they should be allowed to express is.
One of the reasons this community is this strong is because it attracts many different kinds of people, and they should be allowed to express them too. If things get censored here then there is no different between this forum and other forums.

[hobgoblin]

At the end of the day, LE is just doing their job. Our job should be trying to get them a different job.

You know, by spearheading pushes to legalize certain classes of drugs.

Harming LE personal... it just doesn't make sense and it certainly won't win any hearts and minds for our cause. It really makes you look bad talking like that. And it makes the ill conceived concept of drugs being bad as self-fulfilling. As if drugs just make people violent idiots.

Speaking of jobs... while you might be pissed off at LE doing their job, if Ross did his job better, it would have made LE's job a lot harder.

[Nightcrawler]

If Cirrus is taking down posts saying to suicide bomb other people , then yes, I think that he is fit to be a moderator.

Ross wouldn't have removed a post that supported Libertarianism. Remember buddy, Ross made Cirrus.

Who gives a fucking rat's ass what Ross would or wouldn't have done?  Remember where Ross is right now. If he had spent even half the time studying opsec instead of arguing the Libertarian equivalent of,  "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"  he just might not be where he is right now.

Furthermore, your hero, Ross is directly responsible for the arrests of Inigo, Libertas and SSBD (and perhaps more to come.)  So don't fucking lecture us on what Ross said -- what Ross did was nothing less than despicable. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key Fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7  3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B

Security is a bit like religion... some things have to be taken on faith.
Where security differs from religion is that security is NOT retroactive.
Unlike Christianity, where you can come to Jesus, be 'saved' and have all
your sins washed away, with security you can adopt Tails or PGP, and be
secure from that point forward, but rest assured that your previous sins
(security failings) WILL come back to haunt you and bite you in the ass.
The original DPR is the poster child for that, right now.

Folly, thou conquerest, and I must yield!
Against stupidity the very gods Themselves
contend in vain.      --Friedrich Schiller

[RetinaBlast]

harming others, and the suggestion of harming others is not what this place is about.

[Thirtyrox]

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LOL!!! Did you really just PGP sign that message?! WTF!! Gota love noobs!

[ChemCat]

KITNOF

Do you really want your account Deleted?

Tell me in here and i'll help you with that.


Hugs to you All 



ChemCat


 

[Akon]

KITNOF

Do you really want your account Deleted?

Tell me in here and i'll help you with that.


Hugs to you All 



ChemCat


 

Are you being serious? You gonna delete accounts just because people have different opinions then you?

You are a mod here, STAY neutrual!

[nathan.burnett]

There is a time and place for everything, while discussion about these acts of terrorism may be your way of speaking freely this is clearly not the time and place to be discussing such matters
We are here for peace, not war, we will one day go down in history and when we do we do not want to be remembered as the ones who killed innocent children and bombed elderly homes

[ChemCat]

They asked to have it deleted did they not?

I'll not delete it unless they ask here in public.




Hugs 


ChemCat

[nathan.burnett]

ChemCat, is there a hidden forum that works on invite-only, I don't wish to be surrounded by these people anymore

[ChemCat]

I guess SR truly has turned too mainstream - even on the forums. Gone are the days where this place truly was a Libertarian haven.

I would like to ask that a mod please delete my account. This place isn't for me anymore.

They Asked  ^^^^

Also, if someone wants their account deleted...i believe it better to see them state in the open...with a response from a Mod ....then if they still feel that way then yes..it is their right to do with their account as they see fit..is it not?  or did i miss something here 



Hugs 



ChemCat

[ChemCat]

Not that i know of, nathan.

Hugs 



Chem

[Akon]

I guess SR truly has turned too mainstream - even on the forums. Gone are the days where this place truly was a Libertarian haven.

I would like to ask that a mod please delete my account. This place isn't for me anymore.

They Asked  ^^^^

Also, if someone wants their account deleted...i believe it better to see them state in the open...with a response from a Mod ....then if they still feel that way then yes..it is their right to do with their account as they see fit..is it not?  or did i miss something here 



Hugs 



ChemCat

Its words of expression! If mods were gonna censore users then he would like it to be deleted. If thats true, then yes delete his account and delete the majority of the accounts! If SR start censoring users because of different opinons then this forum will be long gone before you know it.

[ChemCat]

I think you just like to be derogatory

If you were to come to ask to have your account deleted..then i would have said the same to you as well...

Deleting their account has nothing to do with censorship,  since they already have asked     
...get it right, I'll go about my business..i don't have time nor do i want to argue 


Hugs 


ChemCat

[Akon]

You took his words out of context! No one have said you are censoring!

Good for you, go do your business, but remember context next time you jump in a thread!!

[ChemCat]

You as well 

Hugs 


Chem

[Akon]

Akon, you clearly responded emotionally without actually reading and comprehending that the OP asked for his account to be deleted.

"Remember me the next time you jump in a thread?"   

Some people's children....

Last message in this thread!

What are you talking about? stop twisting words. Mods should always be neutrual or act as of!

Why should she remember me? Clearly you dont know what context mean ether.

Let me help you here:

What he was writing can not be translated to plain text.

I guess SR truly has turned too mainstream - even on the forums. Gone are the days where this place truly was a Libertarian haven.

If thats the case ^^ then:

I would like to ask that a mod please delete my account. This place isn't for me anymore.

This place used to be something  for this user, BUT if it starts censoring then he would like the account to be deleted.

Simple!

As of  "some peoples children" what a pathetic phrase to drop on the internett.

[lashesxo]

I love Cirrus. 

[xollero]

I would like to ask that a mod please delete my account. This place isn't for me anymore.

This place used to be something  for this user, BUT if it starts censoring then he would like the account to be deleted.

Simple!

Akon, the user asked to be deleted, chemcat offered to do that with confirmation. Of course the original "delete me" wasn't serious, it was more like a toddler having a tantrum and throwing his toys out of the pram. That's why chemcat asked for confirmation, giving him time to cool down a bit, rather than following his own instructions and deleting him outright. It's utterly ridiculous for you to then jump in and point at Chemcat and say "HELP HELP WE'RE BEING OPPRESSED!" when he simply took the poster at face value.

Seriously, gradeschool "anarchists" who think Libertarianism is a brand (such that a thread can become sacrosanct because it is "Libertarian-based") crack me the fuck up. I think OP described himself perfectly when he complained about this place being "too mainstream" while asking to be deleted. Couldn't be clearer how the lines between politics and fashion have been blurred, and how surface-deep some 'libertarianism' is.

I was smashing the state when y'all were in diapers. I had that shit on vinyl.

[Hijinx]

You suggested blowing up senior citizens and children.
Thats the exact opposite of trying to rid SR of LE. That attracts it.
You sir are an idiot and cirrus did you a favor by deleting that topic.

This.

Respect to both Cirrus and ChemCat.

[Yosemite Sam]

Nobody feed the Troll

I love how people are so quick to call others trolls on here. I don't remember SR1 being this bad. It really seems like there are all these politically correct goody goodys that can't stand anyone who has a negative comment about anything! These are the same people who have always laid down in the face of oppression! Why are so many afraid to talk about guns for instance! I am an American and take the second amendment seriously and believe we should be fighting back! I wonder how many of you goody goodys have ever been to prison? I have always noticed that most people that preach nonviolence are uniformed, opinionated, intolerant, Know it all fucks! If I start talking about Domestic USA vendors being able to sell guns on here I guess I can expect to get deleted. Lets talk about killing federal judges in self defense!  Thats the kind of stuff freedom fighters talk about! Oh do you think I'm a terrorist?

[Silent Gooomba]

Nobody feed the Troll

I love how people are so quick to call others trolls on here. I don't remember SR1 being this bad. It really seems like there are all these politically correct goody goodys that can't stand anyone who has a negative comment about anything! These are the same people who have always laid down in the face of oppression! Why are so many afraid to talk about guns for instance! I am an American and take the second amendment seriously and believe we should be fighting back! I wonder how many of you goody goodys have ever been to prison? I have always noticed that most people that preach nonviolence are uniformed, opinionated, intolerant, Know it all fucks! If I start talking about Domestic USA vendors being able to sell guns on here I guess I can expect to get deleted. Lets talk about killing federal judges in self defense!  Thats the kind of stuff freedom fighters talk about! Oh do you think I'm a terrorist?

To you and the people coming to his defense probably didn't read his original topic.
There is voicing what you believe in and libertarianism, and then there is pointless acts of violence.
He suggested blowing up children for every SR admin that got arrested.
He suggested walking into a senior citizen home and blowing it up for every Mod that got arrested.
I completely agree with freedom of speech on this forum and I think that it has gotten a bit stricter lately, but there has to be some sort of line that cant be crossed.

[Yosemite Sam]

Nobody feed the Troll

I love how people are so quick to call others trolls on here. I don't remember SR1 being this bad. It really seems like there are all these politically correct goody goodys that can't stand anyone who has a negative comment about anything! These are the same people who have always laid down in the face of oppression! Why are so many afraid to talk about guns for instance! I am an American and take the second amendment seriously and believe we should be fighting back! I wonder how many of you goody goodys have ever been to prison? I have always noticed that most people that preach nonviolence are uniformed, opinionated, intolerant, Know it all fucks! If I start talking about Domestic USA vendors being able to sell guns on here I guess I can expect to get deleted. Lets talk about killing federal judges in self defense!  Thats the kind of stuff freedom fighters talk about! Oh do you think I'm a terrorist?

To you and the people coming to his defense probably didn't read his original topic.
There is voicing what you believe in and libertarianism, and then there is pointless acts of violence.
He suggested blowing up children for every SR admin that got arrested.
He suggested walking into a senior citizen home and blowing it up for every Mod that got arrested.
I completely agree with freedom of speech on this forum and I think that it has gotten a bit stricter lately, but there has to be some sort of line that cant be crossed.

Your right I didn't read the original topic because it got censored before I got the chance to read and form my own opinion! That was the point!

[Silent Gooomba]

Nobody feed the Troll

I love how people are so quick to call others trolls on here. I don't remember SR1 being this bad. It really seems like there are all these politically correct goody goodys that can't stand anyone who has a negative comment about anything! These are the same people who have always laid down in the face of oppression! Why are so many afraid to talk about guns for instance! I am an American and take the second amendment seriously and believe we should be fighting back! I wonder how many of you goody goodys have ever been to prison? I have always noticed that most people that preach nonviolence are uniformed, opinionated, intolerant, Know it all fucks! If I start talking about Domestic USA vendors being able to sell guns on here I guess I can expect to get deleted. Lets talk about killing federal judges in self defense!  Thats the kind of stuff freedom fighters talk about! Oh do you think I'm a terrorist?

To you and the people coming to his defense probably didn't read his original topic.
There is voicing what you believe in and libertarianism, and then there is pointless acts of violence.
He suggested blowing up children for every SR admin that got arrested.
He suggested walking into a senior citizen home and blowing it up for every Mod that got arrested.
I completely agree with freedom of speech on this forum and I think that it has gotten a bit stricter lately, but there has to be some sort of line that cant be crossed.

Your right I didn't read the original topic because it got censored before I got the chance to read and form my own opinion! That was the point!

And that is the system working. That is why we have mods. They are put in that position to keep the forums running. Part of the job description is deleting topics that make the ENTIRE SR COMMUNITY look like a bunch of idiots or even worse a terrorist organization.
I know to you its just a forum, but if that topic was left up and people voiced there opinion it could easily be quoted by FORBES USA TODAY or any other major news agency that would love nothing more then to put the quote "SR TO BLOW UP CHILDREN" on the front page .
One topic was deleted so that a 1000 more can continue to go up by educated people who know how to voice there opinion in a reasonable manner.
~ Silent G

[xollero]

I love how people are so quick to call others trolls on here. I don't remember SR1 being this bad. It really seems like there are all these politically correct goody goodys that can't stand anyone who has a negative comment about anything! These are the same people who have always laid down in the face of oppression! Why are so many afraid to talk about guns for instance! I am an American and take the second amendment seriously and believe we should be fighting back! I wonder how many of you goody goodys have ever been to prison? I have always noticed that most people that preach nonviolence are uniformed, opinionated, intolerant, Know it all fucks! If I start talking about Domestic USA vendors being able to sell guns on here I guess I can expect to get deleted. Lets talk about killing federal judges in self defense!  Thats the kind of stuff freedom fighters talk about! Oh do you think I'm a terrorist?

Well quite obviously if you want to kill federal judges in "self defense", you are talking about terrorism (i.e. the application of violence towards political ends; inspiring fear of violence in your enemies, etc). There's no sense in denying it; embrace it. Personally I don't give a shit or think that this kind of talk is even worth suppressing. I just think it's daft, for reasons already stated. It's a fight you cannot win and that should be fairly self-evident.

I am not "politically correct"; I am an anarchist.
I do not "lay down in the face of oppression", indeed I suspect I've been a great deal more politically active and engaged than you have been in my life, well above and beyond typing screeds into a keyboard, or playing commando in the woods with my buddies.
I'm not retarded enough to think that having been jailed is some sort of badge of honor or makes my opinions more relevant than the next guy's. It means I fucked up and got caught.

Stop straw-manning people who disagree with you. That's not how people debate, learn, and move forward. That's how people end up building insular, incestuous little cliques that brook no dissent - and never accomplish anything.

Sell guns all you want. Go ahead and whack federal judges if you're dumb enough to think that's a fight you can win, or that it'll do anything other than to give the state carte blanche and the support of the public in wiping you out. But let's be real, you won't be doing any such thing anyways. Armchair revolutionaries have been engaging in the same unproductive fantasies of violent revolution for decades, and nothing beyond a handful of isolated, impotent actions has ever actually come of it.

You can't even get any kind of broad support in such pursuits, which by definition means that in undertaking such actions you end up being vanguardist in outlook. Which, even if the stars aligned and you succeeded, is historically proven to be sheer folly. Oddly enough it always seems to lead to a new, more oppressive elite class, filling the streets with blood. Rationalizing it and abusing words like "freedom" and "liberty" ever step of the way.

Honestly, be as violently radical and nihilistic in your political philosophy as you want, I don't give a shit. Just don't expect me to sign on to it, and don't presume to straw man me and tell me how foolish I am for not signing on to your asinine, self-defeating program for abject failure.

[Mr. Madiba]

Vote Madiba for Admin





He will give the Peolple what they need.


 

[Yosemite Sam]

I love how people are so quick to call others trolls on here. I don't remember SR1 being this bad. It really seems like there are all these politically correct goody goodys that can't stand anyone who has a negative comment about anything! These are the same people who have always laid down in the face of oppression! Why are so many afraid to talk about guns for instance! I am an American and take the second amendment seriously and believe we should be fighting back! I wonder how many of you goody goodys have ever been to prison? I have always noticed that most people that preach nonviolence are uniformed, opinionated, intolerant, Know it all fucks! If I start talking about Domestic USA vendors being able to sell guns on here I guess I can expect to get deleted. Lets talk about killing federal judges in self defense!  Thats the kind of stuff freedom fighters talk about! Oh do you think I'm a terrorist?

Well quite obviously if you want to kill federal judges in "self defense", you are talking about terrorism (i.e. the application of violence towards political ends; inspiring fear of violence in your enemies, etc). There's no sense in denying it; embrace it. Personally I don't give a shit or think that this kind of talk is even worth suppressing. I just think it's daft, for reasons already stated. It's a fight you cannot win and that should be fairly self-evident.

I am not "politically correct"; I am an anarchist.
I do not "lay down in the face of oppression", indeed I suspect I've been a great deal more politically active and engaged than you have been in my life, well above and beyond typing screeds into a keyboard, or playing commando in the woods with my buddies.
I'm not retarded enough to think that having been jailed is some sort of badge of honor or makes my opinions more relevant than the next guy's. It means I fucked up and got caught.

Stop straw-manning people who disagree with you. That's not how people debate, learn, and move forward. That's how people end up building insular, incestuous little cliques that brook no dissent - and never accomplish anything.

Sell guns all you want. Go ahead and whack federal judges if you're dumb enough to think that's a fight you can win, or that it'll do anything other than to give the state carte blanche and the support of the public in wiping you out. But let's be real, you won't be doing any such thing anyways. Armchair revolutionaries have been engaging in the same unproductive fantasies of violent revolution for decades, and nothing beyond a handful of isolated, impotent actions has ever actually come of it.

You can't even get any kind of broad support in such pursuits, which by definition means that in undertaking such actions you end up being vanguardist in outlook. Which, even if the stars aligned and you succeeded, is historically proven to be sheer folly. Oddly enough it always seems to lead to a new, more oppressive elite class, filling the streets with blood. Rationalizing it and abusing words like "freedom" and "liberty" ever step of the way.

Honestly, be as violently radical and nihilistic in your political philosophy as you want, I don't give a shit. Just don't expect me to sign on to it, and don't presume to straw man me and tell me how foolish I am for not signing on to your asinine, self-defeating program for abject failure.

Wow you sure know a lot of big words buddy. You must be a real smart guy lol. Oh nice job with your definition of terrorist. Yes i need you to tell me the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter. Lay down if you want but as for me I have had enough of there war on drugs. You sound like a coward to me plain and simple! You want to over intellectualize whats going on here but really your just making excuses because your a complete pussy! Change is coming but not because of cowards like you 

[Supersaurus]

From what i've seen Cirrus is a decent mod. Don't know what your beef is mate.

If he closed a thread supporting violence toward LE then great. There are a lot of us here, all being watched very closely by LE/Media and often portrayed as one entity, and I certainly don't want to be tarred by that brush. Nice work Cirrus, if you ask me.

[DoctorClu]

I guess SR truly has turned too mainstream - even on the forums. Gone are the days where this place truly was a Libertarian haven.

I would like to ask that a mod please delete my account. This place isn't for me anymore.

I'm sorry you feel that way. As you can obviously see in this thread alone, the majority disagree with you.

I see that ChemCat has offered to do what you asked by deleting your account, but you haven't responded so I will be happy to take care of that for you.

[Fluffhead!]

Cirrus did the right thing. I read this post right when it got posted and he suggested blowing up children, old peoples homes, and killing LE.

For one, all of the above is considered terrorism in the US. Do we really want that label slapped on our community. Do you really want to see SR considered a "terrorist group" like Al Queda?  You see how much good that did them?

If we give the US gov the ability to call us terrorists shit is going to get 100x worse for us than it already is. They will use the "Patriot Act" to take away whatever civil liberties we are still grasping onto, btc will be called a way for terrorists to exchange funds, etc.

You're an idiot and blind if you think otherwise. You can't just go around threatening to bomb children, the elderly, and police. The US isnt the middle east and they will strike down on you so fucking fast for even talking about it. I guarantee they are already trying to find that dude who wrote that post so they can throw him in Gunatanamo Bay with no trial.

You people bitching about censorship need to get your heads out of your assess and/or get the fuck out if you don't like it.

We are a community of people that have morals, I don't know where the fuck all you people came from but go back.

[KayaNow]

Thanks mods for keeping sr2 out of the press.  I agree with some of the previous posters, harming LE is not what this site is about.

[xollero]

Wow you sure know a lot of big words buddy. You must be a real smart guy lol. Oh nice job with your definition of terrorist. Yes i need you to tell me the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter. Lay down if you want but as for me I have had enough of there war on drugs. You sound like a coward to me plain and simple! You want to over intellectualize whats going on here but really your just making excuses because your a complete pussy! Change is coming but not because of cowards like you

Those founding fathers sure were a bunch of intellectual pansies, weren't they? Using all their "big words" and shit.  Are you trolling or are you really this fucking stupid?

You're not even reading what's written to you -- or are just incapable, I guess -- so I don't know why you bother with words at all. They've obviously strictly for pussies anyways right? If only there were a way to compare the size and courageously rough-hewn textures of our ballsacks over the darknet, then we could dispense with these faggot words altogether and decide who really has the better ideas.

If anti-intellectual shitstains like you are at all representative of what we have passing as revolutionary these days, the state has absolutely fuck all to worry about.

Also, you said "Lay down if you want but as for me I have had enough of there war on drugs." No, you haven't. Because you're going to do nothing. You're just talking a bunch of shit. I'll keep quietly doing the kind of work that actually makes a difference in the long run, you'll keep fiddling with your guns and being a hero on the stage of your own mind.

[TwistedNine]

You took his words out of context! No one have said you are censoring!

Good for you, go do your business, but remember context next time you jump in a thread!!

you must be some teenage emo kid that loves the feeling of being oppressed. you love the feeling of being the "underdog". no one understands your cause right? no one understands your position right? you hear what you want to hear, and see what you want to see. ha, i remember highschool when shit seemed black and white. i remember going through this phase.. but the difference between you and me is, i got out. you seem to be stuck in it.

Wow you sure know a lot of big words buddy. You must be a real smart guy lol. Oh nice job with your definition of terrorist. Yes i need you to tell me the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter. Lay down if you want but as for me I have had enough of there war on drugs. You sound like a coward to me plain and simple! You want to over intellectualize whats going on here but really your just making excuses because your a complete pussy! Change is coming but not because of cowards like you 

just more excuses to not use your brain, huh??? yes, lets all revert back to our animalistic cave-man days; grunting to get what we want. forget words. lets forget about all this technological, psychological, and sociological progress we've made over the last 4000 years. lets just start harming others that dont agree exactly with us.. lets go back to kindergarten where we cant suppress our impulses.. lets go back to highschool where being pretentious was okay, and everyone felt the need to be a martyr for some random "greater cause". and if you didnt believe in my cause, well, you're just a "coward".. to be honest, you're more of a coward if you feel the need to flex everytime you feel oppressed. take it like a man. we're viewed as the lowest class in society, we're bound to get oppression, if that surprises you or angers you, then get the fuck out. its clearly NOT FOR you..

[Cirrus]

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There was a thread calling for harm and terroristic acts upon law enforcement and others.  I closed the thread and banned the member - as we always have with any threads/actions that have to do with harming or defrauding others.  Regardless of the fact that LE is watching this site more than ever right now, we wouldn't have ever allowed a movement such as this be propagated or cultivated here. 

Thank you to all of you that have supported Silk Road and what it stands for.
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[Nightcrawler]

I would like to ask that a mod please delete my account. This place isn't for me anymore.

This place used to be something  for this user, BUT if it starts censoring then he would like the account to be deleted.

Simple!

Akon, the user asked to be deleted, chemcat offered to do that with confirmation. Of course the original "delete me" wasn't serious, it was more like a toddler having a tantrum and throwing his toys out of the pram. That's why chemcat asked for confirmation, giving him time to cool down a bit, rather than following his own instructions and deleting him outright. It's utterly ridiculous for you to then jump in and point at Chemcat and say "HELP HELP WE'RE BEING OPPRESSED!" when he simply took the poster at face value.

Seriously, gradeschool "anarchists" who think Libertarianism is a brand (such that a thread can become sacrosanct because it is "Libertarian-based") crack me the fuck up. I think OP described himself perfectly when he complained about this place being "too mainstream" while asking to be deleted. Couldn't be clearer how the lines between politics and fashion have been blurred, and how surface-deep some 'libertarianism' is.

I was smashing the state when y'all were in diapers. I had that shit on vinyl.

Fuckin' A!  Sig material!  Sig material!  +1

OMFG!  The "on vinyl" was the piece-de-resistance!

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key Fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7  3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B

Security is a bit like religion... some things have to be taken on faith.
Where security differs from religion is that security is NOT retroactive.
Unlike Christianity, where you can come to Jesus, be 'saved' and have all
your sins washed away, with security you can adopt Tails or PGP, and be
secure from that point forward, but rest assured that your previous sins
(security failings) WILL come back to haunt you and bite you in the ass.
The original DPR is the poster child for that, right now.

Folly, thou conquerest, and I must yield!
Against stupidity the very gods Themselves
contend in vain.      --Friedrich Schiller

[Nightcrawler]

Nobody feed the Troll

I love how people are so quick to call others trolls on here. I don't remember SR1 being this bad. It really seems like there are all these politically correct goody goodys that can't stand anyone who has a negative comment about anything! These are the same people who have always laid down in the face of oppression! Why are so many afraid to talk about guns for instance! I am an American and take the second amendment seriously and believe we should be fighting back! I wonder how many of you goody goodys have ever been to prison? I have always noticed that most people that preach nonviolence are uniformed, opinionated, intolerant, Know it all fucks! If I start talking about Domestic USA vendors being able to sell guns on here I guess I can expect to get deleted. Lets talk about killing federal judges in self defense!  Thats the kind of stuff freedom fighters talk about! Oh do you think I'm a terrorist?

So, you're an American, and you support the Second Amendment -- fine and good.  America is only like, what, 5% of the global population?  Go find a gun forum and yammer on about it there.  Maybe in the U.S. the 2nd Amendment is Holy Writ, for the rest of us it means sweet fuck all. 

I live in a country where guns are highly regulated, and not that many years ago, it was the stuff of newspaper headlines if a kid brought a knife to school. You want to celebrate guns? Have a separate sub-forum setup for it, and leave the rest of us out of it.

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key Fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7  3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B

Security is a bit like religion... some things have to be taken on faith.
Where security differs from religion is that security is NOT retroactive.
Unlike Christianity, where you can come to Jesus, be 'saved' and have all
your sins washed away, with security you can adopt Tails or PGP, and be
secure from that point forward, but rest assured that your previous sins
(security failings) WILL come back to haunt you and bite you in the ass.
The original DPR is the poster child for that, right now.

Folly, thou conquerest, and I must yield!
Against stupidity the very gods Themselves
contend in vain.      --Friedrich Schiller

[mito]

I do not condone violence and I am a peaceful person, but I do rejoice when a pig dies.

[Nightcrawler]

I do not condone violence and I am a peaceful person, but I do rejoice when a pig dies.

I don't particularly celebrate it when anyone dies. That said, I find it utterly revolting how society reacts when a police officer dies.

There was a case just recently, where a cop was engaged in some type of pursuit, crashed his cruiser, killing himself. So, the cops put on a public spectacle -- full-dress funeral, with flag on coffin, brother offers arriving from all over marching along with the casket, the whole 9 yards. The man left a wife and a small child, and his child is going to have to grow up without him.

Yet, by the same token, a few years back, on a construction site, a few days before Christmas, there was an accident. Some scaffolding gave way, and four men plunged to their deaths. They also left wives, children and families.  Yet there were no elaborate funerals for these men -- there were no speeches about them -- no one to honor them, except for their families.

Construction workers have a ten-fold higher chance of dying on the job than police officers, yet no one gives a rat's ass when they die, frequently due to employer negligence.

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key Fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7  3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B

Security is a bit like religion... some things have to be taken on faith.
Where security differs from religion is that security is NOT retroactive.
Unlike Christianity, where you can come to Jesus, be 'saved' and have all
your sins washed away, with security you can adopt Tails or PGP, and be
secure from that point forward, but rest assured that your previous sins
(security failings) WILL come back to haunt you and bite you in the ass.
The original DPR is the poster child for that, right now.

Folly, thou conquerest, and I must yield!
Against stupidity the very gods Themselves
contend in vain.      --Friedrich Schiller

[anontoker]

Hmmm, that makes sense, cirrus-spidey-sense.

[mito]

I do not condone violence and I am a peaceful person, but I do rejoice when a pig dies.

I don't particularly celebrate it when anyone dies. That said, I find it utterly revolting how society reacts when a police officer dies.

I agree, maybe I shouldn't have used the word 'rejoice', but I definitely neither mourn nor feel sorry.

I have a similar attitude towards Remembrance day, but that's another subject..................

[TheChain]

Blowing up the LE, elderly and children not cool and will lead to SR linked to terrorism even if it's only talked about. Let's not give people legit reasons to hate us.

CP thread I have mixed feelings about. I fucking hate any violence against children but it's a taboo, and I remember reading something on reddit a long time ago about alternative treatments for people involved in CP. It was really controversial by most peoples standards but maybe it would create a spark of ingenuity with someone who can actually make it safer for kids somehow. Who the fuck knows,..

After hearing about the Ian Watkins case I'm thinking that he is seriously fucked up psychologically and maybe society could learn off him if they studied him as opposed to lock them up (FFS keep them away from society though). There's no progress with no dialogue but I don't believe that a violent revolution is going to end in a peaceful world and no of no example of this in history.

That being said I think OP is a clown to suggest that one of the 2 mods who stuck around in all the turmoil is unfit for the role

[ColorBlack]

There's some real stupid shit in this thread.. theres  also some real stupid shit in other threads. The answer to the stupid question posed in the OP is yes, he is.

[ihnZ]

cirrus fit to be tied

[RetinaBlast]

**Smacks forehead** **DOH** ..... I... Read this far 

As bad as LE are for authoring others experience, they are still human. WE are still human.

It's just a bigger gang with weapons and unlimited funding we are being sought after by.

And as much of cunts as they are for their actions of "just following orders" and for being on the side of status quo, I will not be pleased every time some dumb fuck cop kicks it. It's sad we are so separated in this society. We are all fucking human.

[RetinaBlast]

And Cirrus:

Wow. I was thinking of replying to the original post initially and couldn't even bring myself to do it. It was really bad. Misguided as fuck! So, thank you for deleting the trash spewed as it was not in the collective interest and it really was not going to do a single individual here any good what so ever.

And this thread is fucking redundant. But keep that christmas cheer into the new year my fellow druggy friends!

[knuckles]

**Smacks forehead** **DOH** ..... I... Read this far 

As bad as LE are for authoring others experience, they are still human. WE are still human.

It's just a bigger gang with weapons and unlimited funding we are being sought after by.

And as much of cunts as they are for their actions of "just following orders" and for being on the side of status quo, I will not be pleased every time some dumb fuck cop kicks it. It's sad we are so separated in this society. We are all fucking human.

Yeap. We should all be united with each rather than a us VS them type attitude. Hell, just go look on LiveLeak and check out the cop videos, it's really just disgusting egotistical behavior.  Sometimes when I hear LE talk and so on, I just see everything as a losing battle.

[knuckles]

So Cirrus just deleted/locked a thread which was aimed at discussing the possibility of harming the law enforcement officers who target the SR community. Cirrus claimed that "any thing that is meant to harm or defraud any person is strictly against our policies."

Before I start this rant, I would like to make it clear that I fully support SR2.0. I have dealt with many administrators over my 2 years of using the SR1 forums and have also engaged in conversation with many moderators on the current forum. To date, I have not had anything negative to say about any administrators.

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Firstly, Cirrus - as far as I can recall, the policies of SR were that no one was allowed to sell anything that harmed another person. AT NO POINT was the discussion of harming others disallowed. I believe both DPR1 and DPR2 made it clear that all forum users had the right to freedom of speech. Have you not just taken that away from everyone in that thread for absolutely no reason?

Secondly, you claim that our discussion infringed "our policies". OUR POLICIES? You mean the policies that DPR2 adopted from DPR1, right? Do you know what both DPR1 and 2 have in common? They are both strongly supportive of Libertarianism. So, I find it very fucking hard to believe that they created a policy which gives you the right to remove a Libertarian-based conversation. Do you even know what the non-aggression principle is, Cirrus?

Thirdly, you claimed that our discussion was "moronic and not condoned in any fashion". So as an administrator of SR2, you believe it is moronic to propose methods for ridding society of LE oppression?

As much as I love SR and everything it stands for, mods like Cirrus make me sick.

In response to the Op, I understand where your head and heart is at. I believe in the phrase "live and let live" and I agree that anyone or anything standing in the way of one's freedom should be dealt with.  But there are ways to deal with problems before resorting to violence, and make no mistake, bombing campaigns and any action that a militia would take are exactly that, violence. It's considered extreme. Now, I am not opposed to violence when it is warranted.  But violence should be the last course of action.  Violence of the scale you were mentioning leads to death.  We only get one life, the same applies to everyone else.  The situation that most people live in today is far from warranting violence.  For the time being, there are other avenues that we can take to avoid this last measure.  We are more civilized today than we have ever been.  Lets act like it.  Lets be gentlemen before warriors.  I wish I could share my experiences with death without risking doxxing myself, but I can tell you that it is nothing glamorous and it leaves deep scars that not even time can make go away.  Anyone that implies such has never been in a theater of war; never thought of the loved ones that you'll hurt when you end a life.  Life is not an action movie.

We still live in a world where if enough commoners make a stand, positive impacts and strides could be made.  Just so you know, I am neither liberal nor conservative.  I share traits of both groups.  I myself am a big supporter of the American 2nd amendment of it's constitution.  Please don't misconstrue it's purpose though.  It allows for those citizens to own guns in the case that they need to form a militia in order to defend against enemies foreign and domestic that threaten the civil liberties of the common person.  It was not intended as a model on how to take up arms in the case the government continues to crack down on your drugs.

Bombs do too much collateral damage to people that have nothing to do with your agenda.

That kind of talk around here will bring even more negative attention from LE.  Do we need Homeland Security after SR too?  Or any other LE agency for that matter?  It just makes the bullseye on our backs even bigger.  Cirrus was justified in his actions mate, but if you want to talk about it further, I invite you to a discussion in PM.

Happy holidays everyone.

+1

I believe that alot of people that mention killing and so on probably have never even been in a fight, never stabbed anyone, never shot anyone, and have never seen anyone literally die before them.

I'd rather fight with knowledge no matter how bad the struggle may be. I believe that a more informed population is a much better way of getting things done right rather than fear and death. That's what gov't and LE does. I don't want to be lumped in with them and I hope no one else in the movement will either.

What we really need is another DPR figure for changing drug laws.

[vince]

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LOL!!! Did you really just PGP sign that message?! WTF!! Gota love noobs!

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LOL!!! Did you really just PGP sign that message?! WTF!! Gota love noobs!
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[mito]

As bad as LE are for authoring others experience, they are still human.

wrong!!!!!!!

they are pigs, not humans.

[vince]

As bad as LE are for authoring others experience, they are still human.

wrong!!!!!!!

they are pigs, not humans.

This.

But this is a drug forum.  Why bring uneeded attention to it by talking about killing cops.  That is really fucking stupid.
That just gives them a reason to try and compromise SR - when  they have potential killers on the loose.

I threatened police one time and had the FBI come to ask me questions. They found me by finding an account with my alias I registered from my real IP on. They had a full investigation because of a joke.  They could have easily kicked my door in (I was outside) and found everything I've done unencrypted.

The feds take that shit serious, so keep it off these forums.

[Fluffhead!]

As bad as LE are for authoring others experience, they are still human.

wrong!!!!!!!

they are pigs, not humans.

This.

But this is a drug forum.  Why bring uneeded attention to it by talking about killing cops.  That is really fucking stupid.
That just gives them a reason to try and compromise SR - when  they have potential killers on the loose.

I threatened police one time and had the FBI come to ask me questions. They found me by finding an account with my alias I registered from my real IP on. They had a full investigation because of a joke.  They could have easily kicked my door in (I was outside) and found everything I've done unencrypted.

The feds take that shit serious, so keep it off these forums.

True that. This ^^

[mito]

I know a guy who is LE...

Yes, you know.

Mods, IP check on this individual!

[Nightcrawler]

As bad as LE are for authoring others experience, they are still human.

wrong!!!!!!!

they are pigs, not humans.

This.

But this is a drug forum.  Why bring uneeded attention to it by talking about killing cops.  That is really fucking stupid.
That just gives them a reason to try and compromise SR - when  they have potential killers on the loose.

I threatened police one time and had the FBI come to ask me questions. They found me by finding an account with my alias I registered from my real IP on. They had a full investigation because of a joke.  They could have easily kicked my door in (I was outside) and found everything I've done unencrypted.

The feds take that shit serious, so keep it off these forums.

Fair enough... but then you use the tagline: "Become a hero, kill a pig"  Which is it?

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key Fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7  3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B

Security is a bit like religion... some things have to be taken on faith.
Where security differs from religion is that security is NOT retroactive.
Unlike Christianity, where you can come to Jesus, be 'saved' and have all
your sins washed away, with security you can adopt Tails or PGP, and be
secure from that point forward, but rest assured that your previous sins
(security failings) WILL come back to haunt you and bite you in the ass.
The original DPR is the poster child for that, right now.

Folly, thou conquerest, and I must yield!
Against stupidity the very gods Themselves
contend in vain.      --Friedrich Schiller

[RetinaBlast]

Riight. I was going to ask the same question. But I'm sure we all know it's just fun n games.

To the righteous out there. Swine and all. Well to the breakfast meat products.. Maybe you sometimes think of yourself as a heavier Christian Bale. Shit, I forget what I was aiming for 

It must be a pretty rank job to be the street security guard for policy enforcement anyway. But stay safe. Everyone just be kind and respectful to everyone. Especially you coppers!

[smity1020]

I would of done the same thing Cirrus done, we dont need that shit here on the road, people wanting to condone to violence, yes LE are a problem, but dont go about postin u wanna kill cops and shit, who gives a fuck what Ross would of done, this is a new staff and they wont make the mistakes ross did, Leave the violence out of the forums, please ppl makes our staffs job's alot easier if trolls wouldnt be doin shit like this

[CaliforniaCannabis]

 Yes absolutely......

[sanrio1]

I like Cirrus he is a cool cat

[Sunnyvale]

Cirrus is more than fit to be a mod. I support him 100%.


Direct death threats against LE? Come on. Reagan announced a war on drugs but not in the literal sense. You cant suggest we kill LE just for doing their job. Yeah their job is one we didn't choose but it is still the job the chose and theyd deserve the equal rights we do. Don't get me wrong, I hate the war on drugs but violence only solves school yard bullies. Not super intelligent governments.


If anyone wants to fight LE then when the site re - opens buy and sell more drugs than any silk road has 10 fold. That would he a victory. Not killing innocent people. This isnt barbaric times anymore, we have othervoptions. PGP everything and double and triple check security. Even if defcon hmsel were Obama the online market is there. It might be Sr it might be whatever but another site will always pop up. They can not stop us. There will be casualties but this is a war as Mr Reagan put it.


Now a moment of a silence for our recent losses...

[mito]

Not killing innocent people............

Who said they are innocent?

This is war; people die in wars.

[Rocknessie]

Not killing innocent people............

Who said they are innocent?

This is war; people die in wars.

Yet the sig...

Tolerance, Humility and Comprehension - THC

Which is why I hate forum signatures: so many exist for a poster to pretend to be something they're not.

[mito]

Not killing innocent people............

Who said they are innocent?

This is war; people die in wars.

Yet the sig...

Tolerance, Humility and Comprehension - THC

Which is why I hate forum signatures: so many exist for a poster to pretend to be something they're not.

Did you know God punishes his children?

It's not all love.

[Sir William Wonka]

Dear OP please give me back the time I wasted reading this.  Thank you.

[AfricanCanadianBrotha]

NO OFFENSE TO DUDE HE BANS ALOT OF SHIT SHOULDN'T GIVE TRIGGER HAPPY PERSON A GUN LIKE YOU SHOULD GIVE CIRRUS THE AVAILABILITY TO BAN SOME ONE

i my self have never been banned and if u wanna ban me fo saying you a trigger happy mother clucker thats cool its on you

they say there okay with competition  they should allow the links to competition sites and those site allow sr2 link  banning is a form of censorship and i thought this site was against censorship it is the same thing wrong with politician to many hypocrites
only things should be banned are incriminating evidence on the site when the site is proven compromised

also we should fight back against the law in peaceful manor we dont need to sink to there level

we should be arguing  this is a great back door and eliminates crime factors of the drug world what we need is a list of commandment for the dark web if a dark web dossent follow them people move to one that does

[Sir William Wonka]

Links to BMR have always been allowed.  IIRC links to sites like PBF Sheep and Tormarket were banned because they were known to be scams and turned out to be so.

[AfricanCanadianBrotha]

Links to BMR have always been allowed.  IIRC links to sites like PBF Sheep and Tormarket were banned because they were known to be scams and turned out to be so.

but agora i am no way affiliated with them nor have i tried them i think there to new to be judging there links are being banned and i saw a post saying any links to be banned only talk of competition is allowed witch it total fascist censorship in my eyes


 i agree with banning tor market luckily i never had to deal with that mess and i will be die hard silk road user till the sinking of the pirate ship and i will swim off to the next silk road becuase it has the best Lucy vendors and i feel like i agree with some of the ideas of this site feel it can lead to a bigger movement against the Fascist Governments and there laws of oppression 

[Bleeder69]

Chemcat already banned my friend because chemcat wrote that she/he would stick around here no matter what because the forum people were his/her family.
my buddy asked is your life that pathetic you think people on a drug discussion board are your family and he/she must think about her/himself. it wasn't said to be malicioulous. but chemcat showed to have thin skin and banned him right away. this is a fact. and this person spents #$1000 a week on markets and he swore he would never come back.
ross never had such thin skin.
people like chemcat want people to be tolerant to them but show no tolerance to others and she/he abuses her/his powers here.

[TwistedNine]

Not killing innocent people............

Who said they are innocent?

This is war; people die in wars.

Yet the sig...

Tolerance, Humility and Comprehension - THC

Which is why I hate forum signatures: so many exist for a poster to pretend to be something they're not.

Did you know God punishes his children?

It's not all love.

wrong. if God exists (which i feel you believe), he does everything out of love.. even the things you may perceive as mean, are still out of love.. tough love isnt a lack of love..

[Sir William Wonka]

Chemcat already banned my friend because chemcat wrote that she/he would stick around here no matter what because the forum people were his/her family.
my buddy asked is your life that pathetic you think people on a drug discussion board are your family and he/she must think about her/himself. it wasn't said to be malicioulous. but chemcat showed to have thin skin and banned him right away. this is a fact. and this person spents #$1000 a week on markets and he swore he would never come back.
ross never had such thin skin.
people like chemcat want people to be tolerant to them but show no tolerance to others and she/he abuses her/his powers here.

Chemcat embodies all that is pure in our Sr community.  He is part of the family here and has never waivered.  BTW I don't think he bans people either.

[WickedWords]

Chemcat already banned my friend because chemcat wrote that she/he would stick around here no matter what because the forum people were his/her family.
my buddy asked is your life that pathetic you think people on a drug discussion board are your family and he/she must think about her/himself. it wasn't said to be malicioulous. but chemcat showed to have thin skin and banned him right away. this is a fact. and this person spents #$1000 a week on markets and he swore he would never come back.
ross never had such thin skin.
people like chemcat want people to be tolerant to them but show no tolerance to others and she/he abuses her/his powers here.

Chemcat embodies all that is pure in our Sr community.  He is part of the family here and has never waivered.  BTW I don't think he bans people either.

Well spoken, Wonka

[xollero]

my buddy asked is your life that pathetic you think people on a drug discussion board

it wasn't said to be malicioulous

Dude, asking someone "is your life that pathetic" is inherently malicious. Asking it of a mod is kind of obviously a stupid thing to do. What purpose did it serve, other than let your friend act like a holier-than-thou arsehole? Good riddance to bad rubbish..

people like chemcat want people to be tolerant to them but show no tolerance to others

What in the hell are you babbling about? Mods don't care if you "tolerate" them, or like them, that's completely irrelevant. They are moderators. They decide what the board will tolerate, that's the fucking job. This isn't a democracy, and the moderators don't need your approval.

[TwistedNine]

Chemcat already banned my friend because chemcat wrote that she/he would stick around here no matter what because the forum people were his/her family.
my buddy asked is your life that pathetic you think people on a drug discussion board are your family and he/she must think about her/himself. it wasn't said to be malicioulous. but chemcat showed to have thin skin and banned him right away. this is a fact. and this person spents #$1000 a week on markets and he swore he would never come back.
ross never had such thin skin.
people like chemcat want people to be tolerant to them but show no tolerance to others and she/he abuses her/his powers here.

i remember seeing that post. and that was when all the heat was turned up before the christmas break.. if you're friend wishes to be disrespectful to the people making this market possible, he/she should expect some consequences.. that was an utterly stupid thing to do, especially considering chemcats warnings of "im not going to put up with anyone's shit right now" when a couple people made a joke at his/her expense, and ALSO considering the period of time and what this market was going through.. i stand with chemcat on this decision.. just because its a black market doesnt mean being rude and disrespectful is excused.

[Bleeder69]

Chemcat already banned my friend because chemcat wrote that she/he would stick around here no matter what because the forum people were his/her family.
my buddy asked is your life that pathetic you think people on a drug discussion board are your family and he/she must think about her/himself. it wasn't said to be malicioulous. but chemcat showed to have thin skin and banned him right away. this is a fact. and this person spents #$1000 a week on markets and he swore he would never come back.
ross never had such thin skin.
people like chemcat want people to be tolerant to them but show no tolerance to others and she/he abuses her/his powers here.

Chemcat embodies all that is pure in our Sr community.  He is part of the family here and has never waivered.  BTW I don't think he bans people either.

im wonka land or reality? what i said is the truth and if chemcat is honest he/she would confirm it.
what my friend said wasnt malicious but it must of hit a nerve with chemcat. he was banned within 2 minutes of writing that. and had no prior disagreements

[Sir William Wonka]

Could just be wonka land...  I think most are feeling the heat with the indictments and now dicks from tormarket coming on here and being... well, dicks.  I am sure if that is true Chem apologizes or had sufficient ground to ban the user.  Chem is a loving fellow.

[ChemCat]

Who was your Friend?

I gave Plenty of warnings that night..I also Recieved plenty of msg's from people being an ass.....

If you're refering to Vince, then you are Wrong...i didn't ban Vince.

I hope your day gets Better 


Hugs 


ChemCat


 

[Bleeder69]

Who was your Friend?

I gave Plenty of warnings that night..I also Recieved plenty of msg's from people being an ass.....

If you're refering to Vince, then you are Wrong...i didn't ban Vince.

I hope your day gets Better 


Hugs 


ChemCat


 

we all changed usernames after sr so i am not sure but it wasn't vince.
i know this guy irl for 30 years. a great guy. but not a hugs and kisses guy. he's a leather neck. please, if you are honest, you know what i am talking about. you know the post i am talking about. and you banned him for saying "is your life that pathitic...." that must of hit a nerve with you.
no one is perfect, we all make mistakes. so you might of done it then thought you were wrong. but please don't insult my intelligence and tell me you don't know which thread it was.

[WickedWords]

please don't insult my intelligence and tell me you don't know which thread it was.

I've moderated a number of clearnet forums in my time, and have to say that the amount of work required makes it really difficult to remember even personal feuds.

I doubt he does remember the specific incident.

[ChemCat]

First of all, you're wrong, i didnt ban that person for saying what they did...they were quiet after i told them what i did.

Second of all, my skin is not thin, believe me, i put up with alot of people that seem to just talk alot of  useless nonsense...

If you think that i've done something so wrong that warents you to come here and try to belittle me ..then by all means...take your accusations to a Mod..Put me on Trial.   Please, don't insult my intelligence or my Integrity when it comes to my/our Family.

Hugs to ya 


ChemCat

 

[Bleeder69]

First of all, you're wrong, i didnt ban that person for saying what they did...they were quiet after i told them what i did.

Second of all, my skin is not thin, believe me, i put up with alot of people that seem to just talk alot of  useless nonsense...

If you think that i've done something so wrong that warents you to come here and try to belittle me ..then by all means...take your accusations to a Mod..Put me on Trial.   Please, don't insult my intelligence or my Integrity when it comes to my/our Family.

Hugs to ya 


ChemCat

 

listen, its no hair off my ass. but he was banned within 2 minutes of posting and you were the only moderator online at that time.

toodle lu

[ChemCat]

Toodles 

[Bleeder69]

just called him. his name here was "bugs"

you banned him because he asked if your life was that pathetic that you thought people on a drug forum were your family. someone said "not cool bugs" and s banned for life. and that post seems to be deleted. its actually comical because its so hypocritical and silly

fact...if 99.99999999% would rat you out here if they could and it would help them. i know family wouldnt do that. well, at least mine.

Handshake, men don't send hugs, again, my opinion, please don't be offended.

[DoctorClu]

You aren't going to be able to stop Chemmy from giving hugs so don't bother.

He has been a member of this community far longer than you have, mate. A lot of us consider this place home and the people within it, family.

[TwistedNine]

Handshake, men don't send hugs, again, my opinion, please don't be offended.

*cough* homophobe *cough*

PS. heres a fun fact. most homophobes are actually more confused than homosexuals.

PSS. what do you want him to do? shake his computer screen? do you really believe hes hugging you? somehow through the computer screen? sounds like you just like to nit pick at things.

[Bleeder69]

You aren't going to be able to stop Chemmy from giving hugs so don't bother.

He has been a member of this community far longer than you have, mate. A lot of us consider this place home and the people within it, family.

Again, didn't i say "that's my opinion" Where did i say i wanted to stop it. I'm a real libertarian was was just making a point. i'm tolrant to all personalities because we are all unique "INDIVIDUALS"

And "mate" we been in the online black markets since 1997, the same time we starting using the www Silkroad wasn't the first black market by a far shot.

[ChemCat]

I'm not offended at all 



Hugs & Handshakes to you in a Manly Way 



Chem

[TwistedNine]

You aren't going to be able to stop Chemmy from giving hugs so don't bother.

He has been a member of this community far longer than you have, mate. A lot of us consider this place home and the people within it, family.

Again, didn't i say "that's my opinion" Where did i say i wanted to stop it. I'm a real libertarian was was just making a point. i'm tolrant to all personalities because we are all unique "INDIVIDUALS"

And "mate" we been in the online black markets since 1997, the same time we starting using the www Silkroad wasn't the first black market by a far shot.

the internet is a fun place to pretend to be someone else huh? lol

[Bleeder69]

You aren't going to be able to stop Chemmy from giving hugs so don't bother.

He has been a member of this community far longer than you have, mate. A lot of us consider this place home and the people within it, family.

Again, didn't i say "that's my opinion" Where did i say i wanted to stop it. I'm a real libertarian was was just making a point. i'm tolrant to all personalities because we are all unique "INDIVIDUALS"

And "mate" we been in the online black markets since 1997, the same time we starting using the www Silkroad wasn't the first black market by a far shot.

the internet is a fun place to pretend to be someone else huh? lol

everybody is a dreamer. and everyone's a star, and everyone's is showbiz, don't matter who you are.

[TwistedNine]

Handshake, men don't send hugs, again, my opinion, please don't be offended.

*cough* homophobe *cough*

PS. heres a fun fact. most homophobes are actually more confused than homosexuals.

PSS. what do you want him to do? shake his computer screen? do you really believe hes hugging you? somehow through the computer screen? sounds like you just like to nit pick at things.

I tried to +1 positive karma you but I guess I already did in the last 72 hours.

lol its all good, i run into that problem often too

[Bleeder69]

people just keep proving my point  here for not having tolerance to others opinions. and calling me a homophobe is very liberal of you. not libertarian.

too easy

[TwistedNine]

people just keep proviving my point about here for not having tolerance to others opinions. and calling me a homophobe is very liberal of you. not libertarian.

too east

im not making claims about who i am. i just am. i never said i was libertarian or liberal. i dont label myself like you. and if you dont like that, you can kiss my ass. and calling someone a "homophobe" has nothing to do with political party, unless you're one of the people who just cohere to others' beliefs and opinions based on their label.. also, havent you ever heard of the phrase "opinions are like assholes. everyones got one, and they all stink".. well if your opinions stink too much im going to say something. just like if i can smell your BO, im going to tell you to take a shower.. i dont care if i end up being intolerant of some people, because some people just push and push until they're completely intolerable. and its kind of hypocritical of you to be talking about tolerance. what with not being tolerant of chemcat's nor my opinion. i speak my mind, so sue me. more people in this world need to without worrying about offending someone, because some people just seemingly enjoy being offended.

PS. "proviving"? and "too east"? what are you, west? lol

[Bleeder69]

did i call anyone names? did you? my friend wasn't being malicious, but got banned

And wasn't this a libertarian themed site? i didn't label that.

cliques, name calling and intolrance .

again, too easy. call me what you want. difference is i never called anyone a name. i do respect chemcats demenor, i was proving my point.

exacyly whats going on with duck dynasty. people are calling the father a bigot because of his personnal beliefs. if we toleranted people who weren't harming anyone and looked at people as individuals then we would be etter off.

i shouldn't of brought it up as bugs wasmn't worried about it. i just see some much hypocritical statements i just spoke up. i should know better in a control eviroment. 
im done, happy new years!

[xollero]

Handshake, men don't send hugs, again, my opinion, please don't be offended.

You guys who are so insistent to prove what BURLY MAN'S MEN you are on the internet are a fucking cancer. You must be seriously insecure in your masculinity and sexuality to waste so much breath trying to convince completely anon people how much you're not a pussy, trying to police people's words to ensure they are manly enough.

You're coming off as being just a few steps up the evolutionary ladder from Yosemite Sam earlier in this thread, sneering about "big words" and endlessly preoccupied with WHAT STRONG MENS DO, bitching about intellectual pansies with their hard to understand words, and their faggy notions of 'community'...

[xollero]

did i call anyone names? did you? my friend wasn't being malicious, but got banned

Again, asking someone "is your life that pathetic?" is inherently malicious. There is no innocent explanation for asking that kind of loaded rhetorical question, it's obviously meant to belittle chemcat.

This is the third or fourth time that you have repeated that this statement was "not malicious". Saying it again and again doesn't make it so, guy.

[TwistedNine]

did i call anyone names? did you? my friend wasn't being malicious, but got banned

And wasn't this a libertarian themed site? i didn't label that.

cliques, name calling and intolrance .

again, too easy. call me what you want. difference is i never called anyone a name. i do respect chemcats demenor, i was proving my point.

exacyly whats going on with duck dynasty. people are calling the father a bigot because of his personnal beliefs. if we toleranted people who weren't harming anyone and looked at people as individuals then we would be etter off.

i shouldn't of brought it up as bugs wasmn't worried about it. i just see some much hypocritical statements i just spoke up. i should know better in a control eviroment. 
im done, happy new years!

well you inferred it with your rhetorical questions, i didnt call anyone any names.. but wait; "difference is i never called anyone a name." except for calling me a liberal.. pretty sure thats a name. and what about the inference in the beginning of your post? i thought you inferred that i DIDNT call anyone a name.. you and your fucking double standards (a double standard is when you have a set of standards for yourself and another set for others, because you probably didnt know what that meant).. also, just because i use a so called "libertarian themed site" doesnt mean that i therefore must be a libertarian. although i find myself agreeing with a lot of libertarian views, im not so quick as to jump on the bandwagon and call myself this or that...
"if we toleranted people who weren't harming anyone and looked at people as individuals then we would be etter off." i agree, so why are you intolerant of others speaking against you? you should know from the duck dynasty example you brought up that saying ignorant and perverse things will give you flak from others.
"i shouldn't of brought it up as bugs wasmn't worried about it." then why the fuck did you even post?? gotta impress your boyfriend 'bugs'?? gotta prove that you were thinking about him??
"i just see some much hypocritical statements i just spoke up." what hypocritical statements?? i mean, other than your own..
"i should know better in a control eviroment." what the fuck are you talking about anymore??
"im done" good, get the fuck out of here. pretentious trolls are fucking lame..

did i call anyone names? did you? my friend wasn't being malicious, but got banned

Again, asking someone "is your life that pathetic?" is inherently malicious. There is no innocent explanation for asking that kind of loaded rhetorical question, it's obviously meant to belittle chemcat.

This is the third or fourth time that you have repeated that this statement was "not malicious". Saying it again and again doesn't make it so, guy.

if i could +1 you again within 72 hours, xollero, i would

[snooze]

I just read someone sticking up for their friend, spoke an opinion and now is getting attacked.

People, we are all in the same gang! smfh

[calcium345]

Nobody feed the Troll

Aye

[drugbro]

Cirrus was the only mod around during last weeks chaos trying to calm and answer peoples questions. So yes he/she is fit to be a moderator.

[Sunnyvale]

Cirrus is fit to be a mod. 100%. OP question answered.


Now let's stop the 9 pages of name calling and 5th grade insults huh?


The market opens tomorrow and let's get back to business as usual. All this downtime is making the trolls a bit ancy.

[John Gotti]

Someone has to be a moderator. Would you want to? Thats some target on your back for a lousy $50-75k

[Fluffhead!]

I'm not offended at all 



Hugs & Handshakes to you in a Manly Way 



Chemi

My favorite method of pissing people off is killing them with kindness. +1 Chemcat.

[AfricanCanadianBrotha]

I just read someone sticking up for their friend, spoke an opinion and now is getting attacked.

People, we are all in the same gang! smfh

well in gangs u get jumped in this gang u get verbally assaulted until u either go or stay ;p

[Bleeder69]

I just read someone sticking up for their friend, spoke an opinion and now is getting attacked.

People, we are all in the same gang! smfh

well in gangs u get jumped in this gang u get verbally assaulted until u either go or stay ;p

Reflects bad mangement. Moderators should act a higher standardn, being bipartason, not be in charge of some "clique" , thickskinned and fair.
if you think that a member wasbanned for saying that while nigger hating and child rape threads remain then i question your motives.  (not ditect at you but those who dp)