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A little help?
« on: October 31, 2013, 03:10:37 am »
Hey all,

Just wondering if anyone could point me at some of the really heartwarming threads of the old SR boards. Things similar to, e.g.:

- The Spare Coins Thread
- the Ask DoctorX Thread
- the thread calling for vendors to donate to charity just before the seizure

n.b. I don't need links to the above threads, but to other threads that show a similar caring community side to SR.  I'm doing the point of my book that discusses how the community grew and evolved and wasn't filled with demons and thieves :)

Any help most appreciated. Thanks in advance :)

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Re: A little help?
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2013, 03:29:07 am »
Hey, cool! You look to have a new or rare or just different forum title. Journalist. Green squares, too!
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2013, 03:40:34 am »
Hey, cool! You look to have a new or rare or just different forum title. Journalist. Green squares, too!

Haha, that's the first time I've seen that too! Must've just happened!

I'm cool with it - never tried to hide who I am or trick anyone into talking to me but I guess it doesn't hurt for people to be reminded that evil lurks here  8)   ;D

Edit: I wonder what the LE one will look like?  ::)
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2013, 08:33:05 am »
Look at the karma thread on the old forums. I think it is the most loving place in the digital dark world.

We're not all that bad  :)
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Re: A little help?
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2013, 08:35:43 am »
Hey mate, Just look around you will see those threads here aswell!
Someone pulled DoctorX out of the old forum and hes kicking hard around here as well!
And the coin thread working too .. check it out :)

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Re: A little help?
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2013, 10:19:45 am »
I think the old forums down  :-\ The old ladies thread defycode made was good  ;) and ChemCats family thread especially, I will look for the link  ;)

@stringerbell...Do you have a link please?
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2013, 10:28:28 am »
No the old forums is still up an running

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Re: A little help?
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2013, 01:05:14 pm »
I think the karma thread may be interesting to you. Anyways, you can decide for yourself:

http://silkroad5v7dywlc.onion/index.php?topic=151.0

We're also trying to get a howto wiki together. As of now we're only gathering tutorials, and this thread is not as heartwarming as the other ones, but I might as well give you the link then you can decide for yourself.

http://silkroad5v7dywlc.onion/index.php?topic=1702.0

EDIT: Have you had a look at the PGP club? It's a thread with people helping out other people staying secure.

http://silkroad5v7dywlc.onion/index.php?topic=179.0

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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2013, 01:09:51 pm »
There were a few suicide threads where everyone was supportive, Kitkat rings a bell, I think she started one.

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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2013, 01:22:43 pm »
Oz i have officially changed my opinion on you and feel honored to have you

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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2013, 01:28:02 pm »
and ChemCats family thread especially

dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=166727.0

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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2013, 01:36:02 pm »
Great now people can I.D you by your green for grass code. I'd have banned your account. What good have you done anyone? You helped get DPR/Ross nicked.

Treat Journo's like Grasses because when the shit hit's the fan, you can be sure they will spill their guts.

No they wont.  They are not required to give up sources
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2013, 01:49:24 pm »
Great now people can I.D you by your green for grass code. I'd have banned your account. What good have you done anyone? You helped get DPR/Ross nicked.

Treat Journo's like Grasses because when the shit hit's the fan, you can be sure they will spill their guts.

No they wont.  They are not required to give up sources

In fact, at least here in Australia, we are actually protected by legislation from doing so. Anyone else can go to jail for not grassing. We are actually legally protected.
Not that I would grass anyways, but its nice to know that (technically at least) I have the courts' side against any attempts at compulsion to give up my sources :)

Edit: and DAMN I miss being able to hand out karma! But I feel morally obliged not to spam to the requisite post number.  ::)
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2013, 01:56:51 pm »
In that case I'll retract the above statement. happy story hunting!
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2013, 02:05:32 pm »
and ChemCats family thread especially

dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=166727.0
Thanks BoS  :) that's the one!
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Re: A little help?
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2013, 02:12:54 pm »
I read her articles. I never comment because of OpSeC.

Fuck clearnet.

I found one post you wanted by FiberOptic about the charity.
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SR has had a positive impact for vendors and buyers alike. As a vendor I feel it's time to pass on a bit of the good fortune to others. Next week Mon-Fri (9/30-10/4) I will be donating 30% of sales to charity. My charities of choice will be Erowid and Seans Outpost, 15% each.

Erowid provides a vital resource to those who intend to take drugs. Without it harm reduction would be much more difficult.

Sean's Outpost( is a Bitcoin funded charity in Florida which serves meals to the homeless and has just opened a homeless sanctuary to help them get back on their feet. They are doing a lot of good and I'd like to see them continue. bitcoinmagazine.com/6939/seans-outpost-announces-satoshi-forest/

At the end of the week I will post here to let you know how much will be donated to charity. The funds will then be properly anonymized over the course of the next week and then distributed to the charities.

There is an element of trust here but in an anonymous world there will always be.

I encourage other vendors to take part and donate what ever percent they can to the charity of their choice.

If you would like to take part please post what percent you will be donating and to who along with a link to your vendor page. I will try to update this post with the details of those who are donating.

Cheers!
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Re: A little help?
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2013, 02:23:24 pm »
Thank you all.  This is shaping up to be one of the most fun chapters in the book to write :)

I'm actually in private contact with the formidable DoctorX and the previous DPR himself gave me quite the interview about how awesome he thought his work on the forums is. So if you haven't done it recently and have the capacity, spring him a bit of + karma :)
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2013, 02:28:55 pm »
It was interesting to revisit the victory posts by LE.

I don't think they accomplished what they hoped for.

Instead they helped the dream become less opaque, with a stronger foundation.

Interesting.
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2013, 04:20:38 pm »
+1 to Oz :)
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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2013, 04:22:12 am »
Thank you all.  This is shaping up to be one of the most fun chapters in the book to write :)

I'm actually in private contact with the formidable DoctorX and the previous DPR himself gave me quite the interview about how awesome he thought his work on the forums is. So if you haven't done it recently and have the capacity, spring him a bit of + karma :)

I'm really glad you have a chapter on this side of the community - there is an opportunity here to help, e.g. especially in the harm reduction forum, where people have some knowledge or experience to share. It can be hard to get the right advice regarding drug use from the people in your F2F community especially if you wish to remain anonymous. Obviously this has a longer history, e.g. Erowid, Bluelight, etc., but the spirit continues within the SR community too.
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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2013, 04:45:54 am »
Victory posts by LE?

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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2013, 08:05:12 am »
Great now people can I.D you by your green for grass code. I'd have banned your account. What good have you done anyone? You helped get DPR/Ross nicked.

Treat Journo's like Grasses because when the shit hit's the fan, you can be sure they will spill their guts.

No they wont.  They are not required to give up sources


I'm sick of you replying to everything. Your opinion has changed has it? Since when? You were asking if you could buy 20$ worth of bitcoin as you were dying to use the markets? Don't really care what people think about you, I've never bagged anyone on forums here or old, but you mate annoy me, rambling rubbish to get posts up. If you had an opinion on oz, surely to form that you would have been around long enough to know about 20$ (tight Arse) worth of bitcoin?
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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2013, 08:07:06 am »
Victory posts by LE?

Either LE or Coachella. Considering how shitty the grammar was its anyone's guess.

I didn't think they were worth posting plus I don't think the community would like it.
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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2013, 08:12:19 am »
OzFreelancer, although I believe you are looking to innocently do a story and have no intention of doing any harm to this here community, what assurances can you give that the information you may collect from any of us here that it will not be shared amongst other media organisations and distorted to portray us in a different shade than you may intend to?
I know this does occur and Ive witnessed it before. Once you have made your nice and comforting piece the info you collect is then distributed off to "A Current Affair" or "Today Tonight" and they then dissect sentences and tell a completely new story and send it out to the mainstream to further brainwash the population for the war on drugs (freedom). I dont believe you will have any say in what happens after you release the info you collect from us here after you finish your story. What if your story never gets published and they send the details of your investigation directly over to the 7 or 9 news team?
Id recommend anyone think about this before they share anything with any journalist. Not saying Ozfreelancer is trying to deceive us all but the media is and always has been a tool for control and propaganda. Id want some reassurance somehow before Id give anything out to any media or journalist. I know Vice do some out there stories and feature drugs often but I also know they take interviews from people and that interview is then published by a 3rd party with no mention of Vice at all.
Id be cautious.

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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2013, 03:13:42 pm »
OzFreelancer, although I believe you are looking to innocently do a story and have no intention of doing any harm to this here community, what assurances can you give that the information you may collect from any of us here that it will not be shared amongst other media organisations and distorted to portray us in a different shade than you may intend to?

Writers wishing to write negative articles will twist anything they find. If there is a choice to be made between good information with some being distorted or no good information at all I think I'd choose the latter :)
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« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2013, 06:25:41 pm »
OzFreelancer, although I believe you are looking to innocently do a story and have no intention of doing any harm to this here community, what assurances can you give that the information you may collect from any of us here that it will not be shared amongst other media organisations and distorted to portray us in a different shade than you may intend to?

Writers wishing to write negative articles will twist anything they find. If there is a choice to be made between good information with some being distorted or no good information at all I think I'd choose the latter :)

I don't see a problem unless I'm posting FUD which is against the rules. Those posts I was referring to were FUD I had no evidence I just found them interesting and didn't link them.
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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2013, 02:03:52 am »
Great now people can I.D you by your green for grass code. I'd have banned your account. What good have you done anyone? You helped get DPR/Ross nicked.

Treat Journo's like Grasses because when the shit hit's the fan, you can be sure they will spill their guts.

No they wont.  They are not required to give up sources


I'm sick of you replying to everything. Your opinion has changed has it? Since when? You were asking if you could buy 20$ worth of bitcoin as you were dying to use the markets? Don't really care what people think about you, I've never bagged anyone on forums here or old, but you mate annoy me, rambling rubbish to get posts up. If you had an opinion on oz, surely to form that you would have been around long enough to know about 20$ (tight Arse) worth of bitcoin?
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« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2013, 02:47:16 am »
Hey all,

Just wondering if anyone could point me at some of the really heartwarming threads of the old SR boards. Things similar to, e.g.:

- The Spare Coins Thread
- the Ask DoctorX Thread
- the thread calling for vendors to donate to charity just before the seizure

n.b. I don't need links to the above threads, but to other threads that show a similar caring community side to SR.  I'm doing the point of my book that discusses how the community grew and evolved and wasn't filled with demons and thieves :)

Any help most appreciated. Thanks in advance :)

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« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2013, 10:13:13 am »
Any of the avengers threads, such as LSD avengers, and then later the MDMA avengers, the DMT brotherhood, or something...

These were people doing something for the love of it, that resonated out throughout the community...

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« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2013, 10:19:32 am »
Hey, cool! You look to have a new or rare or just different forum title. Journalist. Green squares, too!


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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2013, 11:09:40 pm »
Hey, cool! You look to have a new or rare or just different forum title. Journalist. Green squares, too!

Haha, that's the first time I've seen that too! Must've just happened!

I'm cool with it - never tried to hide who I am or trick anyone into talking to me but I guess it doesn't hurt for people to be reminded that evil lurks here  8)   ;D

Edit: I wonder what the LE one will look like?  ::)

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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2013, 11:11:37 pm »
Keep up the good work, btw. I believe you are on a very important mission here...
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« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2013, 07:40:52 am »
OzFreelancer, although I believe you are looking to innocently do a story and have no intention of doing any harm to this here community, what assurances can you give that the information you may collect from any of us here that it will not be shared amongst other media organisations and distorted to portray us in a different shade than you may intend to?

Writers wishing to write negative articles will twist anything they find. If there is a choice to be made between good information with some being distorted or no good information at all I think I'd choose the latter :)

I agree with Cornelius23. In the end there is no choice to 'not have information'. Silk Road is out there and it will be talked about. The question is by whom and what will the slant be? And if we leave it to the hack journalists and channels, it will be a negative slant. Having someone like Eiley on the case increases the chances of decent coverage that is fair/reasonable - that has been my experience of every article she has produced. A good example being this thread itself - trying to ensure that the community aspects of Silk Road are covered, something most mainstream journalists wouldn't even know about let alone think to include in their stories.
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Re: A little help?
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2013, 09:52:06 am »
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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2013, 12:06:25 am »
Hey OzFreelancer - did you notice that the BBC linked to your site?

*Clearnet* http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24842410

That's a big thing, good work :D
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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2013, 12:18:32 am »
Congrats on being cited in Forbes as well.


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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2013, 12:22:30 am »
Ditto what Yoda said - seems you beat the bigwigs to the breaking news this time :-)
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« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2013, 12:35:49 am »
Yes, BBC and Forbes were responsible for me getting more hits before 8:00am than I had ever had in a whole day before. :)

And now that I'm able to be a karma fairy, +1 to everyone in this thread  8)

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« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2013, 12:37:37 am »
Oz  :P

You Nut!!  LOL  ;D


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« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2013, 12:38:48 am »
+1 Oz.....+1  ;)



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« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2013, 12:42:47 am »
You are growing on me after reading your articles I have to admit.

Looking forward to seeing your upcoming work.

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« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2013, 05:15:55 am »
I'd +1 if I could... I'll get there.

Looking forward to reading more too :)
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« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2013, 05:54:19 am »
what assurances can you give that the information you may collect from any of us here that it will not be shared amongst other media organisations and distorted to portray us in a different shade than you may intend to?
No journalist can control how their stories are used--to expect Oz to be able to is a bit naive.
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I know this does occur and Ive witnessed it before. Once you have made your nice and comforting piece the info you collect is then distributed off to "A Current Affair" or "Today Tonight" and they then dissect sentences and tell a completely new story and send it out to the mainstream to further brainwash the population for the war on drugs (freedom). I dont believe you will have any say in what happens after you release the info you collect from us here after you finish your story. What if your story never gets published and they send the details of your investigation directly over to the 7 or 9 news team?
Id recommend anyone think about this before they share anything with any journalist. Not saying Ozfreelancer is trying to deceive us all but the media is and always has been a tool for control and propaganda. Id want some reassurance somehow before Id give anything out to any media or journalist. I know Vice do some out there stories and feature drugs often but I also know they take interviews from people and that interview is then published by a 3rd party with no mention of Vice at all.
Id be cautious.
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« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2013, 07:17:21 am »
This is the reality of the mediascape, and there's nothing anyone can do about it except be honest and have proper journalistic tendencies. What someone else does with your story is out of your control.

I had a bit of a dilemma with this one when Today Tonight wanted me for an interview for their story on Silk Road back in July this year. They really aren't the best for balanced coverage are they? In the end I figured they would do the story with or without me, so it was probably best that I presented some balanced stuff for them and see what they would do. Annoyingly the only quotes they have from me are pretty lame - they neglected to include all the research evidence based statements. Just shows you have to stick with your message with these things! -- although, in the end, I found the story was not as bad as I had expected even though it could obviously be a lot better. In any case I bet it bought a few more people to the marketplace!

Clearnet link to TT story:  http://vimeo.com/70157223
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« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2013, 07:25:07 am »
This is the reality of the mediascape, and there's nothing anyone can do about it except be honest and have proper journalistic tendencies. What someone else does with your story is out of your control.

I had a bit of a dilemma with this one when Today Tonight wanted me for an interview for their story on Silk Road back in July this year. They really aren't the best for balanced coverage are they? In the end I figured they would do the story with or without me, so it was probably best that I presented some balanced stuff for them and see what they would do. Annoyingly the only quotes they have from me are pretty lame - they neglected to include all the research evidence based statements. Just shows you have to stick with your message with these things! -- although, in the end, I found the story was not as bad as I had expected even though it could obviously be a lot better. In any case I bet it bought a few more people to the marketplace!

Clearnet link to TT story:  http://vimeo.com/70157223
It's very difficult to phrase things in a way that doesn't allow journalists to cherry-pick quotations that support the bend of their article, even if your views and how you expressed them are the opposite of that bend and despite the fact that it's somewhat unethical to not properly maintain the integrity of the interviewee's statements. Might as well write your own article if you want to balance the perspectives. It's a sad state of affairs. 
EDIT: Just look at the plethora of articles that came out after the SR bust, stating that SR sold hitmen and child porn.  If I recall correctly, Al Jazeera even made this error.
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« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2013, 08:53:08 am »
It's very difficult to phrase things in a way that doesn't allow journalists to cherry-pick quotations that support the bend of their article, even if your views and how you expressed them are the opposite of that bend and despite the fact that it's somewhat unethical to not properly maintain the integrity of the interviewee's statements. Might as well write your own article if you want to balance the perspectives. It's a sad state of affairs. 
EDIT: Just look at the plethora of articles that came out after the SR bust, stating that SR sold hitmen and child porn.  If I recall correctly, Al Jazeera even made this error.

It certainly is an art - which I'm still in the process of mastering!

Yes a lot of outlets just repeated that error. My first question when approached by journalists about Silk Road is to ask whether they have actually visited the marketplace themselves. Usually they have not. In Australia when I was talking to journalists about this, some of them just hadn't tried, others had tried to do a bit more of an investigation but IT denied them access to Tor. Really though, it's not hard to at least have a look yourself, the technology is free and available to anyone with a home computer / net connection, and enough curiosity to take the time to make it happen.

Eileen Ormsby and Mike Power, were - of course - exceptions to this, being freelance and genuinely investigative in their approaches, rather than just looking for quick click-bait.
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« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2013, 02:25:08 pm »
I forgot about this thread.  Pretty interesting in retrospect!

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Hope it helps Oz