Author Topic: Still don't believe that Ulbricht was DPR? Here's evidence from the FBI.  (Read 1175 times)

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so many people claiming that there is some deeper conspiracy because they want to believe it. But in fact it's just not true. What is true is that DPR is a name that gets passed, just like in The Princess Bride, and a new DPR will take over and take command of the ship and learn from the previous and do even better.

it's pretty clear that Ulbricht was DPR. Here is the evidence: http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf

for those who don't want to read it:
1. the FIRST POST EVER about SR was found on Shroomery under alias Altoid. (posed as a question asking if he should buy, but was also asking for feedback, advertising the site), he referenced silkroad420.wordpress.com which had a link to the silk road URL and instructions for how to download TOR and how to get to it. silkroad420.wordpress.com was opened 4 days prior to this post.
2. the SECOND POST EVER was also by Altoid a few days later, on bitcoin forums. All the same info in the post, clearly advertising and looking for feedback from two entirely separate communities. Still, it was all posted anonymously so he's good up to this point, other than linking Altoid to Silk Road's creator.
3. 8 months later Altoid posts that he's looking for an IT pro for a bitcoin backed venture. clearly Silk Road is one of very few IT-based ventures backed by bitcoins. Here he posts his real email rossulbricht@gmail.com. Biggest mistake and the reason they followed him.
4. a user with RossUlbricht@gmail.com as their registered email address posts on stackoverflow asking for advice for how to connect to an onion server using curl commands and php. Later, he changes his e-mail address associated with his account to frosty@frosty.com, which has been determined by the FBI to be a fake email address.
5. FBI gets records from google of IP addresses used to access rossulbricht@gmail.com, showing San Francisco IP addresses. They also find messages from DPR referencing the PST timezone, which matches these IP's location.
6. FBI seizes the SR website server and finds that the ssh key associated, or needed to log-in ends with frosty@frosty, meaning ross has a computer named frosty with a username frosty, this computer is able to access the server without a password due to this key, but it was another one of his biggest mistakes, associating frosty with himself. This computer however, has not been found to my knowledge.
7. the FBI identifies the revised piece of code that ulbricht was asking about on stackoverflow.com as part of the SR server.
8. Package heading to ulbricht containing 9 fake IDs with different names and the same picture of ulbricht is seized shortly after DPR discusses buying fake IDs to rent servers to avoid identification by companies that lease server space.

additional: his linkedIn profile mission about creating an economic simulation without the systemic use of force, or something like that. Also, one of his very few links is to the Mises institute, which is about the Austrian school of economics, something that DPR holds dear and talks about often. He even holds a book club that talkes about Mises. Clearly there are many similar interests.

clearly this is DPR. The only missing piece is his money, which is easily explainable.$80million in BTC could easily fit on an ironkey flash drive that nobody but himself could access, and that flash drive could be hidden very easily. It's a lot easier to hide $80million in BTC than it is $80million in cash. Lucky for him, I don't think he'll ever lose that money, though it will be difficult for him to launder and use in the future.

the evidence is pretty clear cut if you read the complaint, the FBI did their job on this case, and Ulbricht slipped up too much. There is plenty of evidence to prove that he is indeed DPR. If he's not DPR, then DPR is beyond genius, having thought of this plan every step of the way, and actually going out of his way to frame ulbricht. That, or ulbricht was in on it and being paid off. However, neither of the latter seem likely to me based on the actual evidence.

learn from his mistakes.

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I believe that Ulbricht was DPR, but was he the "original" DPR? Although i'd like to believe that the person who created Silk Road was some sort of hyper uber computer genius, and Ulbricht was some sort of assistant that helped him out during the beginning, and then took the helm after he left, I simply do not believe this happened. My theory, is that Ulbricht was the original creator of Silk Road, but when he realized that he had left some serious clues about his identity behind, he decided to create the persona of "Dread Pirate Roberts" in order to entertain the idea that there may be multiple owners. I believe he thought this would throw the feds off his trail
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How can Ross be DPR when in essence DPR is a figment of your and everyone's imagination??? A name a DPR who could've been a thousand people a day and no one would know.

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i've heard that theory before as well. I don't think we'll ever know for sure, unless one of the DPR's writes like an autobiography or something. Honestly as long as the drugs keep coming safely, it doesn't matter who is behind the scenes. Very interesting stuff though
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This is going to be one of them mysteries that will go on the books, maybe even be on the history channel 30yrs from now.

Yes DPR is just a TITLE in this thing of ours.

Whatever may be the case, they got their man. The FEDS are not in the business of catching people they THINK is the person. It would be a total embarrassment to them if they caught the wrong guy and one thing the government has is a whole lot pride.

It's up to Ross and his attorney's to try and win against what they have against him. Which in this case with the amount of charges filed against him along with the evidence it's going to be difficult. But hey! IF OJ can do it, he sure has a fighting chance.

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It is, in my opinion, absolute proof that Ross is not DPR and he was merely an assistant to his childhood friend named "Rene", who from my understanding is ridiculously more intelligent than Ross, has much more similar ideals to the DPR posts I've constantly seen, and has disappeared off the face of the earth after hiring ross and moving him to san-fransisco for some sort of "start-up" to create a different lifestyle.

He disappeared?
I don't think so (Clearnet links obviously):
https://twitter.com/RJPinnell
http://renepinnell.com/
https://www.facebook.com/rjpinnell
As usual: Just saying.

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I've seen no good evidence that Mr Ulbricht was operating as DPR prior to July. Everything before then suggests nothing more than his being friendly with (the then current) DPR(s) and promoting SR.
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What Cornelius said.

Or, if you want an alternative, Ross could well have been the original DPR, but the DPR operating at the time of Ross's arrest could have now disappeared.

Alright, sure, come at me with "He was online with a cooperating witness" - it's probably not the above alternative.

But just adding to the thought pool with my 2 uBtc :)
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