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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: DudeRugs on January 09, 2012, 12:51 pm
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Last night I bought my first BitCoins after spending nearly 3 months learning the ropes and making sure I wasn't jumping into someone's scam. After a lot of debate I finally took the plunge and bought $1000.00usd worth of Bitcoins.. everything went great! Then about an hour after the coins reached my account they suddenly disappeared. I frantically checked the transaction log to see the a user called "doug00100" had made a custom listing for the precise amount of coins in my account (127.99) and without my consent the transaction was completed. Needless to say I feel like I want to vomit right now, especially since I can't get SR support to respond to me to save my life. A couple users told me that they would be able to get the funds back but I have very little hope at this point and just hope nobody else has to get hit like I did. And I have started another account to message SR support from in an effort to get a faster reply. Oh and after I realized what had happened it was but a couple seconds before I was locked out of the account permanently. Luckily I had a second account I set up to use for selling. I just don't know what to do and feel like I got punched in the gut. Its hard to feel like I am part of a community when I know there are people like doug00100 just waiting around every corner to take me for everything I've got. The money was literally what I was going to use to get my heat turned back on in my house.. oh well, gonna be another cold month I guess right? cowards
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Can someone please explain how this is possible?
A rogue seller posts an item for sale, and is able to "hack" into a user's (victim) account to place and finalize an order thus robbing him???
What am I missing here?
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Perhaps exploiting the site or got your password another way.
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If someone exploited the site there would be more than one person out of coins, OP im guessing you got phished. Have you made accounts on websites that you found through the hidden wiki? And sorry to hear you lost so much money man
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If someone exploited the site there would be more than one person out of coins, OP im guessing you got phished. Have you made accounts on websites that you found through the hidden wiki? And sorry to hear you lost so much money man
this user has it spot on
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ok, I get it. User must have had his password stolen/phished.
Otherwise we're fucked.
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Who was your vendor?
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nomad bloodbath
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nomad did you mean which vending account was used to scam him? i think he said it was doug00100
first off that really sucks dude, scammers are rampant here you gotta protect yourself. and yes you either logged into a phishing clone of SR or you used a common password on another hidden site that was compromised... when you are dealing with any money you should protect your ass, you wouldnt go down to the ghetto and withdraw out 1000 bucks waving it around and shit, likewise be smart online with your shit, honestly if i was about to transfer in 1k to my sr account i would change the pw even before i sent it just to make sure i was good. your SR account, your BMR account, your ovdb account, your forum account, shit even your own clearnet passwords really all should have different passwords, this is like security101 come on...
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Then about an hour after the coins reached my account they suddenly disappeared. I frantically checked the transaction log to see the a user called "doug00100"
DudeRugs,
Where did you get the SR link from?
Did you copy and paste it?
Please let us know, because that's how you probably got phished.
Always remember the real SR address: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion
silk road visual basic 5 pizer onion
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I doubt the SR has anything to do with this. It's likely that DudeRugs has an infected computer or used one. I've been online for many years with many sites/game/etc and the only time I've ever been "hacked" is when I logged onto WoW at a co-workers house. Bastard had a keylogger!
What I don't understand is that if the PIN is supposed to protect our coins if our account is hacked, why isn't it required to make purchases too?
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First off, sorry for going to sleep as soon as I made this thread. Secondly, to answer this recurring question, my account had been compromised due to some scammer obtaining my password. The thing that is the most troubling about ALL of this is that since this actually happened last night at around 11pm central-standard-time (almost 13 hours ago) I have yet to hear a single word back from the SR Support team. Maybe they can do something, maybe they can't. It would be nice at least for someone to contact me for two reasons.. 1)So that I can know one way or another if I need to start selling plasma. and 2)It would be nice to know that they are at least capable of acting like they give a shit at all. Maybe I am asking way too much here. It would be kinda nice to get my old account back also since once the fuckers took the money out there really isn't much they need it for. Oh well, I need to go do something to take my mind off of this before I feel like I have to puke again..
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Sucks to be you... ;D
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nomad did you mean which vending account was used to scam him? i think he said it was doug00100
first off that really sucks dude, scammers are rampant here you gotta protect yourself. and yes you either logged into a phishing clone of SR or you used a common password on another hidden site that was compromised... when you are dealing with any money you should protect your ass, you wouldnt go down to the ghetto and withdraw out 1000 bucks waving it around and shit, likewise be smart online with your shit, honestly if i was about to transfer in 1k to my sr account i would change the pw even before i sent it just to make sure i was good. your SR account, your BMR account, your ovdb account, your forum account, shit even your own clearnet passwords really all should have different passwords, this is like security101 come on...
I agree with MrGrey, and with the info of other SR members. I am am big on security and encryption. Gotta know where you are and who you giving info too. Have any of your other accounts been compromised? How have you gotten a hold of SR through the forum or through you other account? Is your other SR account compromised? I hate to see something like this happen, but somethings just don't seem right.
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why the fuck would you buy $1000 in bitcoins when you needed the money to "heat your house" and now are forced to "sell plasma"?
Thus is the downside of being a drug dealer.
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@ Asbury
I said the same thing. I remember when I first tried the site I only transferred 1 bit coin lol. Did my trial runs, and then got comfortable.
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Wow dude I though what happened to me was terrible. This is fucked up.... I sincerely hope everything works out for you and you don't have to sell plasma. That shit hurts....
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someone really needs to make a sticky thread called "Silk Road 101" for noobs.
Rule 1. Always make sure you have the correct link to SR so you arent password phished. http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion
Rule 2. Never Transfer more money to your account than you plan to immediately spend.
Rule 3. Never Spend Large amounts with vendors you've never dealt with before, especially new vendors with no, or low feedback.
Rule 4. Always work within the escrow system and try not to finalize ealry unless the vendor has a good reputation.
Rule 5. ?
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Rule 5. Before placing an order visit the Rumour Mill section and do your own investigation. Spend a night reading posts. Use the Search function.
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I personally like to communicate with my dealer before I pull the trigger. If they don't reply back to my PM even prior to an order, the future don't look good on any deal with that particular dealer.
-ColdFrost
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sounds like phishing or a keylogger, this shit has been happening a LOT recently
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Holy shit man. That is just horrible.
All I can say is in the future transfer the Bitcoins to a wallet not connected with SR until you actually need em' and only withdraw the amount you need.
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Please no one send him any BTC. It's much more likely he's just trying to get free money IMO.
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Please no one send him any BTC. It's much more likely he's just trying to get free money IMO.
Basiclly PumpkingYeti wants to say fuck you, I aint giving you shit!
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Please no one send him any BTC. It's much more likely he's just trying to get free money IMO.
Basiclly PumpkingYeti wants to say fuck you, I aint giving you shit!
+1. Fuck you! I ain't giving you shit! :)
But seriously, is there an older con? Guilting people into sending money... Hell the ASPCA has commercials every night for it. Every day I see threads for "I'm 2 bitcoins short, I'll pay you 4 next week"... Suuuuuure you will...
I'm slowly starting to not really care though. I think i see what conmen see - if people aren't smart enough to hold onto their money they don't deserve their money... survival of the fittest...
Can you tell I've been drinking tonite? hehehheheh
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Rule 6. Use Linux or at least Mac. using Windows is like having unprotected sex with a $5 whore and expecting not to contract an STD.
Rule 7. Is that bon fucking jovi in your avatar?
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Sucks to be you... ;D
Why would you even say that.... Bad karma to you...
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DF
drugfather
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Every day I see threads for "I'm 2 bitcoins short, I'll pay you 4 next week"... Suuuuuure you will...
A bit off topic, but I have given out small loans a few times and each time (except one) people returned BTC as agreed upon. No need to be so negative, smoke some weed instead of drinking, maybe things start looking brighter;) There are lots of honest people here.
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Please no one send him any BTC. It's much more likely he's just trying to get free money IMO.
Basiclly PumpkingYeti wants to say fuck you, I aint giving you shit!
>Silk Road Forums user "drugfather" joins the conversation.
>Silk Road Forums user "drugfather" agrees.
>Silk Road Forums user "drugfather" leaves the conversation.
-DF
drugfather
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Rule 7. Is that bon fucking jovi in your avatar?
He's one of the forums preset avatars you can choose. I was too lazy to find/upload my own and he happened to go with my username so why not?
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my first thoughts were this
You say you were scouting around here for 3 mounths, were you posting things in here? This part of the web is loaded with scammers and a new face is what they go after. Before you know the ropes about how to keep yourself safe, they are workin away tryin to get your security info, waiting for the day when you take the plunge and get a bunch of coin
When you did this, they have allready had your info for a few mounths and take your coin
It hapened a bunch to me when I was new here, got taken for coin every time I turned around, every step I took it seemed like they new I would go there, who knows maybe I was a fish caught on their hook going to places they realed me into
Anyways Ive learned how to protect my stuff, change password 3 times a day and things like that
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1. Fuck you! I ain't giving you shit! :)
But seriously, is there an older con? Guilting people into sending money... Hell the ASPCA has commercials every night for it. Every day I see threads for "I'm 2 bitcoins short, I'll pay you 4 next week"... Suuuuuure you will...
I'm slowly starting to not really care though. I think i see what conmen see - if people aren't smart enough to hold onto their money they don't deserve their money... survival of the fittest...
Can you tell I've been drinking tonite? hehehheheh
but srsly, i am ฿0.02 short... :'( :-[ ;D :o
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probably warweed, all he does is sit around all day and fuck with SR...
i lawled
but really now ? if i was going to phish you wouldn't even have any idea that i did .. secondly I don't care to take your money without exchange it does nothing for stabilizing the bitcoin economy if anything i would love to to see bitcoin increase and by ripping people that simply would not happen ..
anyways best of luck to the OP
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Man.. some of you guys are kinda assholes. That is not directed at the SR community, just the losers who try to act like they belong to a community. You see, thing about community is.. when one person gets dealt a bad hand, the rest of the community just simply listens and is there for that person. When I made this post I was pretty upset. And to clear something up, I didn't lose the money for my heat bill when I got robbed. I used the money for my heat bill to setup my sellers account and to transfer as many bitcoins to my account that I could get together so that maybe I could recoup some of my losses once those products arrived.
Now, to straighten some other people out. Yes, I did research and browse the forums and vendors for about 3 months before making my first move. I was very anal about doing everything as safely as possible. Where I slipped up was not changing my password before I made my transaction. I know $1000 seems like a lot of money to put in right off the bat, but I already knew what I was going to spend it on and was simply comparing a few listings that were up at the time before I actually purchased any. I was logged on the entire time between deposit to theft to lock-out. The money was a pool of funds put together by people I know and we knew the risks going in, but whether we knew the risks or not, losing $1000 stings regardless of the situation.
AND LASTLY! Not once, NOT ONCE, have I asked for anything other than moral support from what I considered a community. Yeah, one person did offer to send me something. What that is I haven't the slightest idea. But what I can tell you is that I already had every intention of buying through this person before he was gracious enough to offer me what he did. Maybe some of you think the right thing to do would be to not accept it, maybe some of you are just mad that you weren't given anything. Either way, I lost $1000 and the gift I am receiving is only going to be paid forward(which is how I was taught to do when someone helps you without being asked to) as soon as I am able to. I finally got a message from SR today saying that they have got my original account back, and that I can use it again should I choose. So if its that big of a deal to some of you, I am sure that there is a way I could prove to you that it actually happened and I am not the piece of shit you think I am. In fact, since starting the sellers account I have been really enjoying this site and look forward to being around, offering fair prices and providing quality service. But believe me, I am making a list of each of the people who were so quick call me the scammer I'm not.. :)
Lastly
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I saw a thread like this the other day, and the user got a few freebees from a well known, kind seller. So I assume this guy is just hoping that someone will take pity on him and throw a few freebees his way. Even though he will decline my accusation. Just my opinion.
If not, you got phished. Quit downloading software off of youtube.
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You said you were logged in the entire time? We left our account logged in and proceeded to sign in on another machine on a different network. The moment we logged in on another machine we were logged of our profile on the first after a refresh. We don't see how two people could be logged into the same account from two different ips
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You said you were logged in the entire time? We left our account logged in and proceeded to sign in on another machine on a different network. The moment we logged in on another machine we were logged of our profile on the first after a refresh. We don't see how two people could be logged into the same account from two different ips
He probably didn't include that part, its not like it changes anything. So if they have your password your signed out and they're signed in? Great security feature.
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=8424.msg77423;boardseen#new
You don't need to make two threads...
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I feel sorry that something like this would happen to you, but at the same time feel fortunate that I came across this thread. There is value in learning from the mistakes of others. Are you aware of *how (eg, phishing, keylogging, etc) your account was compromised other than someone getting ahold of your pw?
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You said you were logged in the entire time? We left our account logged in and proceeded to sign in on another machine on a different network. The moment we logged in on another machine we were logged of our profile on the first after a refresh. We don't see how two people could be logged into the same account from two different ips
He probably didn't include that part, its not like it changes anything. So if they have your password your signed out and they're signed in? Great security feature.
If I was ever suddenly logged out of my account I would immediately log back in and change the password?... And how did they get his withdrawal pin?
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And how did they get his withdrawal pin?
He said that BTC were used to buy a custom listing..
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You said you were logged in the entire time? We left our account logged in and proceeded to sign in on another machine on a different network. The moment we logged in on another machine we were logged of our profile on the first after a refresh. We don't see how two people could be logged into the same account from two different ips
I had to chime in on this I know this is a load I run about 6 bots that run on sr's network each of them after there own session but only share 2 user accounts mine and the welcome wagon you can make site changes and the previous session will still be active the only time this is not true is if sr goes down for a period of time the cookies go stale I have spoken to sr about this very recently because previous sessions would not be removed if things like passwords were changed and if you exit the browser rather then logout that session remains active unless that session goes stale which is quite a while and the reason i know that is a i frequently rotate my password for the warweed account and my bots still stay active
and secondly when you connect to sr you don't have a IP as far as you or the site knows you are local host IE 127.0.0.1
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thats scary man, i feel for ya, i really do. Before i found this place i used to use different sites and i have easily gotten scammed/taken for over a thousand dollars total, never all at once, but over time easily over a grand, so i know how you feel, i hope it all works out for you, to be honest hearing your story kinda sketches me out now, the SR looks amazing but im done being scammed and robbed. i wish you the best man
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Well I wasn't trying to sketch anyone out.. mainly just explaining how I got took so it doesn't need to happen to someone else. Since then things have been going really well. I have made multiple deposits, and multiple purchases/sales and have not had anything go wrong yet. I don't want to scare anyone away, just let them know what types of scams are out there.
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im sorry to hear that man.... hope all goes well and don't worry about the douchebags on SR, They are everywhere
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There is only one thing i have to say to this thread....WOW. I mean, I've been on SR for over 3 months and have NEVER been scammed (knock on wood) this is because I am extremely careful with how I make transactions and who I speak to...yikes this is a shitty situation for someone.