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Title: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: DrMDA on April 13, 2013, 10:31 pm
Just got on Silk Road two days ago. Browsed a bit and one guy really made my hairs stand up. I read all the forum posts about him and I would like to add my two cents along with a stern warning.

DrDeepWood/Ron Paul is at best a scammer and at worst DEA. I have been a clandestine chemist for many years now. I am wired into that scene. I have partook in many path-blazing synthesis' on my own and with others, have been a large manufacturer/seller, have watched my buddies take a fall, and have taken a fall myself. I am not currently in business but I keep abreast of everything and am very knowledgeable as to all the sysnthesis' out there, sourcing, and manufacturing in general . With all that said let me state my concerns with Ron Paul.

First, just to clear things up his synthesis's are not bs. They are real and he seems to have a good grasp of chemistry. I have not purchased any of his "guides" but his procedures (especially since he lists equipment and chemicals used) are blatantly obvious. With the exception of one synthesis they are also old and well documented. He claims "secrets" and "tricks" to doing these synthesis' but I can assure you there are no secrets or tricks to these time tested procedures. He may throw a batch in the freezer to crystallize quicker, or he may use a cloth sheet instead of coffee filters to do some industrial filtering, or he may use a drill instead of buying a mechanical stirrer, but these are not tricks or secrets. It is completely normal in chemistry to adapt a procedure to your conditions and none of these adaption are "secrets" or "tricks". So I find it completely appalling that Ron Paul is charging people hundreds of dollars to do a simple Google search for someone and then maybe add a couple commonly used "tricks" chemists use to make things easier and pass it off as some kind of intellectual property. Ron Paul is nothing more then a scam artist charging an insane amount of money to perform a Google search. Do yourself a favor, if you are interested in a procedure of his just pick out a few of the chemicals he lists along with the end product and Google all that. You will find literally thousands of results from hundreds of different sources and drug forum websites listing that exact procedure in detail. You do not need to give hundreds of dollars to Ron Paul for this info, it is free to anyone willing to use Google.

Second, he claims that although this info may be out there that having a "consultant" for that info is worth the money. As a chemist let me tell you something, if you need to pay a guy a few hundred dollars to explain to you how to setup a simple distillation or Kipps apparatus then you better get all these chemistry ideas out of your head because you are going to severely hurt yourself. For example, in his "new" MDA synthesis (one I was doing 7 years ago) he lists "safe" easy to handle chemicals. Do you know that hydroxylamine is a HIGH EXPLOSIVE??? Do you know that not only is it a high explosive but several hydroxylamine factories have exploded killing many workers and they had no idea what happened because not only is it a high explosive it's explosive nature is very poorly understood (if you don't believe me Google it). It is true the hydrochloride salt is much more stable but you are freebasing it the very first step (which by the way at RPs scale produces quite an exothermic reaction that can run away from you). This is just ONE of many Ssafety issues he not only does not touch on but in his ads leads you to believe the opposite. So one he is a scammer, two he is luring lazy people who do not want to learn chemistry on their own into a dangerous ignorance, but my third concern is the worst one.

There is a good chance Ron Paul is DEA. This comes from my experiences. You see RP is not selling anything on SR. No drugs or product. The only thing he is selling is the encouragement to start manufacturing large amounts of schedule 1 drugs with HIS SOURCES. Are you kidding me????? In all my years of doing clandestine chemistry I have come across very good and very private sources from those I trusted the most (which does not mean complete trust) and even those sources I would never use. Cops putting manufactures onto a particular source is the best tool they have had to bust anonymous online chemists. Not only does RP tell you to use a particular source but he even gives you a SECRET CODE to use when ordering! Please don't tell me you people are dumb enough to fall for this. I have seen guys get busted this way.

So to sum it up I can tell you Ron Paul is at best a scammer charging people for a Google search while encouraging ignorant amateurs to conduct a very dangerous hobby, and at worst there is a good chance Ron Paul is DEA (even though I have no proof of this). You have been warned.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: motek on April 14, 2013, 04:18 am
Hi DrMDA and a HUGE "thank you" x 1000 for succinstly saying what I had been trying to, in a slightly emotive fashoin maybe, but as you say ...

Listen to this guy, he makes many valid points.

RP/DDW  ARE  SCAMMERS AND TROUBLE  whichever way you look at it


 everything in your post is correct,  (btw I never said it was 'bunk', I said they were dangerous and effectively impossible for a noob to pull off)

  and  I tried to make folks aware of the Safety Factors and that this ISN"T like "baking a cake"

The LE aspect I had not considered .... but now you mention it ....FAAARKIN HELL!!!   You make much sense there....

BTW he 'recommends' "limitless" as one person to buy  chemicals from on TSR ....now (strangely?) many folks that seemed to have been around here for some time have 'supported BOTH RP and limitless"  but as we both know, long term undercover ops by US agencies like the DEA are in fact more common that folks are aware of

Limitless was a strong supporter of BOTH the guides AND RP/DDW  ..... yes he sold(sells?) precursors like RP and hydroxyamine for outrageous prices as well  ???

And IF you ARE stupid enough to believe "that LE, esp the DEA, " Have to stay within the boundaries of the law" e.g. They're "not allowed to sell drugs" You're dreaming !    (but not in the way Dr MDA or motek  would  'dream'  lol) 

 Those guys are a law unto themselves, and it's getting worse .... IF motek lived in the states, she certainly wouldn't play this game ... your LE are the First class arseholes of the world ...

As many who have followed the RP/DDW thread, will know moteks spent much time and energy trying to expose this scaammer .... and I'm pufffed out, but please..ask yourself  "why are there these people (OP, myself et al) saying these things?"

We have NOTHING to gain....we are just the kind of people who are inclined to be helpful and SHARE the LOVE!  Sometimes it backfires, but it's just how I am!

Thank you again DrMDA for putting in all the time and effort just having to spam your way to 50 to say this in your first post...i
In my my eyes You ARE one of the Good Guys who did that to HELP the Community make   "better decisions" about RP/DDW before  jumping in the Deep End and drowning!

Come to think of it...NOBODY has come forward stating they bought the 'guides' and 'will report back"  actually have ... (except for the self proclaimed madman, Poopermachine) .....hmmmmm???

This is clearly a worry,, and we ALL need to be more 'thoughtful' before jumping in to defend someone who turns out to be LEO's!!!  Great Point  DDMA (lol I know ...nice!!"


So, enough of my raving,,I've had a HUGE weekend and I'm now in mid sunday arvo recovery, thinking about food!

Take care all and a BIG welcome to DDMA :o)
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: DrMDA on April 14, 2013, 05:47 am
You should read how the black market carder sites like DarkMarket, CardersMarket, and ShadowCrew were taken down. Secret Service and FBI posed as legit vendors building relationships, trust, and access before taking everyone down. One thing that blows my mind about this place though is just the size. There are so many buyers and sellers I don't see how they can make a dent. Most on those carder sites were a few really big buyers and really big sellers, but here there are just so many of everyone they couldn't even put a dent in things. But they will try, and Ron Paul is one of the ones who sticks out.

... And a story about safety. When I first got started many years ago I ordered a bunch of expensive glassware and lab equipment. When it came I acknowledged that I was still learning so I knew that I needed to cautiously familiarize myself with all the new gear in a safe manner before I really started using them. So I decided I would try my first simple refluxing by putting some water in a good sized 12L flask, put the flask on a very nice hotplate, attached the reflux column, and (oops) clamped a stopper at the top of the column. I stopped the column up thinking that since with a reflux the solution is not suppose to escape from cooling and dropping back down that stopping the top wouldn't matter. My dumbass did not see why an enclosed glass system with greatly heating expanding gases (albiet just air and water vapor) would be a problem. Well just about when the water started boiling (and since I did not add any bumping material or a stir bar you can make that FLASH BOILING) the glass reflux column exploded like a rocket (after breaking away from it's clamp) towards the ceiling at an incredible rate before hitting the glass lighting cover shattering both the reflux column and the glass lighting cover which made both big and small pieces of glass rain down upon the room. Meanwhile boiling hot water from the flash boil was spewing out all over electrical cords with 15amps running through them supplying the hotplate. Long story short, I damn near decapitated my head with a flying glass reflux column before being pumped with glass shrapnel raining down on me while being electrocuted... all from just trying to reflux WATER! Fortunately about 5 seconds before it happened I stepped out of the room so no harm came to me, but my point is if an amateur who ALMOST knows what he is doing can get in all that trouble with just water, imagine what trouble he can get into with toxic heavy metals, neurotoxic reducing agents, and high explosives. But then again you got RPs email on speed dail so you should be fine ;-)
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: jacklinks on April 14, 2013, 06:10 am
So you're saying that LE posed as a vendor and sold legitimate illicit substances for a prolonged period of time just to make a large bust? Where is the evidence of this?

I can see this is court. "Well we were able to take down many drug resellers over a period of several months judge"

              Judge: "How were you able to do that?"

"Well we sold them all legitimate gear for a period of time to gain their trust, in fact it was hundreds of thousands worth of top quality drugs"

Judge: "Wow, you guys are fucking idiots"
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: sbmafia on April 14, 2013, 07:01 am
maybe just a TAD of actuall evidence when accusing someone of beingDEA? just a wee bit?
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: motek on April 14, 2013, 07:16 am
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You should read how the black market carder sites like DarkMarket, CardersMarket, and ShadowCrew were taken down.


Google IS your friend  ;)
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: lesseroftwoweevils on April 14, 2013, 09:26 am
What a load of horse shit, DrDeepWood is not law enforcement. I'm on your side guys on the whole DDW debate, but accusations like this just make you sound paranoid and delusional to the people you're trying to persuade.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: tolega on April 14, 2013, 10:41 am
What a load of horse shit, DrDeepWood is not law enforcement. I'm on your side guys on the whole DDW debate, but accusations like this just make you sound paranoid and delusional to the people you're trying to persuade.


That's what I'd expect coming out from DrDeepWood's LE's co-workers.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: motek on April 14, 2013, 10:53 am
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That's what I'd expect coming out from DrDeepWood's LE's co-workers.

Have you READ ANY of  lesseroftwoweevils posts bro ???  I didn't think so  ::)

But lesser,    Those scenarios are VERY real, just not publicised  ... pretty much  SOP for some  US (and other)   LEOs .... hmmm  It's worth a thought     (esp considering it's been done before (which I only found out today) hmmm?

What makes you so sure?   He's too stupid maybe?  ;D   What happens to ALL his 140something guide buyers? ... never heard from again... :o  Gotta say it's plausible  :(


Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: DrMDA on April 14, 2013, 05:26 pm
Jacklinks I'm not making this stuff up. Go look it up yourself. Why is it so hard for people to use Google????? Damn. Just Google DarkMarket. Or hell here is a link to the FBI website about it:

hXXp://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2008/october/darkmarket_102008

Am I still making this stuff up?



And SBMafia and Lesser how many years in prison have you done for clandestine chemistry? How many years have people you know done? How many years have you spent out on bond fighting cases? How many chemists friends cases have you followed??? How many decades have you been following all chemist arrests in the news and legal world staying on top of LE's tactics? I am letting you know what a setup looks like from EXPERIENCE. If you do not want to heed my advice and insights that is fine. But I am telling you what RP is doing appears to the trained eye as a classic police setup. Whether he is or not I specifically said I did not know for sure. All I said is this is what one looks like. Kind of like with Dark Market when the experienced guys were screaming how the admin MasterSplyntr's behavior was classic police behavior and all the masses of inexperienced people shouted them down. So MasterSplyntr stayed around for another year building cases. If you want to do nothing but berate a chemist very experienced with law enforcement activities then do so at your own peril, but I don't believe you are doing anyone a favor by doing so.


Funny though how no one argued against (and hence I assume everyone agrees) that RP is a complete scammer. It is kind of hard to argue against that one when all it takes is a 2 second Google search to prove it.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: Barbijuana on April 14, 2013, 06:42 pm
ITT: Plot thickening on low heat
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: yodude420 on April 14, 2013, 07:40 pm
Yea I find it extremely easy to belive that L/E would sell drugs because theyve done it before!
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: DrMDA on April 14, 2013, 07:44 pm
^^^^ But he's not even selling drugs. He's selling the encouragement for YOU to sell drugs while providing the sources to buy the chemicals to do so.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: yodude420 on April 14, 2013, 07:55 pm
naw i know that i was referring to the post by the jacklink guy. but as the op was saying they could tell you how to make it tell you where to get the sources and track where you get them sent to.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: jacklinks on April 14, 2013, 08:43 pm
From the article it appears they just posed as criminals... At some point you need to get information on someone to make a bust. How would RP do this? All he does is send a guide to you in exchange for bitcoins. You never have to reveal any of your personal information.

So once again, where is the proof? How is RP LE? Good job FBI you've successfully given out information that will be used to increase underground chemistry. Well Done!
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: DrMDA on April 14, 2013, 10:23 pm
^^^ Jacklinks I'm not even going to waste my time responding to someone so stupid they can't see the problem in sourcing chemicals for large scale drug manufacturing from the DEA. Look up some manufacturers being busted, most of them are busted this way. I suppose if you were into machine guns you wouldn't think twice about an anonymous person telling who exactly you can buy AK-47's by the dozen from uh? It would never once occur to you it might be an ATF or FBI agent uh? Well then enjoy your freedom while you still have it.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: motek on April 14, 2013, 10:38 pm
hey DMDA     good stuuf matey I can't  agree more ..... the cunt RP even offered one of the vendors I reveiwed $5k for my I.P   :o  I wonder 'why?'

Times are a changin

be careful ;)
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: jacklinks on April 14, 2013, 11:55 pm
^^^ Jacklinks I'm not even going to waste my time responding to someone so stupid they can't see the problem in sourcing chemicals for large scale drug manufacturing from the DEA. Look up some manufacturers being busted, most of them are busted this way. I suppose if you were into machine guns you wouldn't think twice about an anonymous person telling who exactly you can buy AK-47's by the dozen from uh? It would never once occur to you it might be an ATF or FBI agent uh? Well then enjoy your freedom while you still have it.

DEA? I've seen RP suggest getting the precursors from well known and reputable members from this site.... Before anyone thinks I'm trying to defend RP I'm not. I don't give two shits about him or his guide, but I would like to see some actual evidence of him being LE, not childish BS and conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: motek on April 15, 2013, 12:11 am
 
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but I would like to see some actual evidence of him being LE,


Like what?  You sound pretty young bro....naive is the word

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not childish BS and conspiracy theories.

Oh did you READ thee link?    Reply with something worthwhile (if you can) when you do, instead of posting inane rubbish ::)  Do you actually KNOW what a 'conspiracy' IS

You being on this site CAN be accurately called "conspiring"  :)


smarten up kid or become one of the "1 out of every 100 men" in the US  in prison  "system :( A Judge in Florida IIRC was "caught" sending people to Private prisons on bullshit charges BECOZ they (the prison) were PAYING HIM to :o  Conspiracies ARE everywhere people are "planning" to do anything .... cut the Fox news style crap bro and post useful relevant data please :D 

cheers motek

p.s   Google IS YOUR FRIEND .... use it!
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: jacklinks on April 15, 2013, 12:59 am
a theory that explains an event or set of circumstances as the result of a secret plot by usually powerful conspirators

Event: Buyers and/or sellers getting busted without a thorough explanation

Secret Plot: Undercover seller getting information

powerful conspirators: the U.S Govt
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: DrMDA on April 15, 2013, 01:17 am
^^^ Wow. Jacklinks seems to think the war on drugs is a conspiracy and that undercover DEA agents are akin to alien sightings. Wow dude, wow. I hope you like cold food because that whole 3 hot meals a day stuff is bs (try two pieces of stale bread with expired meat that says "not for human consumption" on it" twice a day).
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: yodude420 on April 15, 2013, 01:33 am
yea if im not mistaken durring the iran-contra incident cia agents actually sold cocaine to ricky ross.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: motek on April 15, 2013, 02:14 am
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yea if im not mistaken durring the iran-contra incident cia agents actually sold cocaine to ricky ross

yeah and some marine dude got jailed ...and the govt was severely embarrassed....and that's ONLY ONE of the one's we know/were told about about ....there HAVE been SO MANY I dont have time :P

What would you call George dubbya's "they HAVE weapons of mass destruction" comments then?

Do some homework kid .... you just might make a good lawyer one day ;)

Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: hexokinase on April 15, 2013, 06:38 am
It doesn't matter if Ron Paul is law enforcement or not. The moral of the story is don't start a drug lab if you have no formal chemistry and lab training. If you are willing to pay tons of money to a stranger for instructions on making drugs you're clearly not smart enough to be synthesizing drugs for people to consume.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: lesseroftwoweevils on April 15, 2013, 08:14 am
It doesn't matter if Ron Paul is law enforcement or not. The moral of the story is don't start a drug lab if you have no formal chemistry and lab training. If you are willing to pay tons of money to a stranger for instructions on making drugs you're clearly not smart enough to be synthesizing drugs for people to consume.

My thoughts exactly. I was going to type out (yet another) highly detailed response about what I thought of his guides and his role on the SR, but you know what? It's not fucking worth it. There are so many scammers and low lifes here that some guy posting dubious guides and precursor sources are the least of the SR's problems.

If people are so naive and overconfident that they think they can become the next MDMA kingpin simply by buying a shitty guide with a miniscule success rate, then so be it. In the meantime, I'd suggest that they pick up an actual O Chem book before they waste any more of their money.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: psykhe on April 15, 2013, 08:30 am
BTW he 'recommends' "limitless" as one person to buy  chemicals from on TSR ....now (strangely?) many folks that seemed to have been around here for some time have 'supported BOTH RP and limitless"  but as we both know, long term undercover ops by US agencies like the DEA are in fact more common that folks are aware of

Limitless was a strong supporter of BOTH the guides AND RP/DDW  ..... yes he sold(sells?) precursors like RP and hydroxyamine for outrageous prices as well  ???

Oh look, Limetless linked to another scammer who he has publicly supported. (Vlad1m1r, anyone?)

I've never spoken to him, bought from him and I have no interest in what he sells, but it does worry me that he is obviously in a position of influence and this is at least the second vendor he's publicly recommended who has turned out to be a scammer.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: Empathy101 on April 15, 2013, 08:39 am
dr vs dr... and subbed.

Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: motek on April 15, 2013, 09:45 am
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dr vs dr

lol yeah I thought that too  :D

Have some karma for the funny joke (and 'DMDA' the initials are also a phethyamine 8)) and you have a very cool user nym  8)  I'd never had even considered something like that, but it's ...perfect ;D 8)

@ psykhe
« on: Today at 08:30 am »  thanks for the support against these dudes bro, much appreciated to everyone who's joined to "fight the Good Fight"  8) cheers, welcome and have a +1 for fun ;D and a damn relevant comment ;)

 




Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: wraithe on April 15, 2013, 11:34 am
From the article it appears they just posed as criminals... At some point you need to get information on someone to make a bust. How would RP do this? All he does is send a guide to you in exchange for bitcoins. You never have to reveal any of your personal information.

So once again, where is the proof? How is RP LE? Good job FBI you've successfully given out information that will be used to increase underground chemistry. Well Done!

the information is publicly available.  so no crime there.  sass-oil is legal to buy and used for many things in the us.  it is just restricted.  so giving out his sources still has him on the legal side.

sidenote I miss shadowcrew lol
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: wraithe on April 15, 2013, 04:46 pm
^^^ Wow. Jacklinks seems to think the war on drugs is a conspiracy and that undercover DEA agents are akin to alien sightings. Wow dude, wow. I hope you like cold food because that whole 3 hot meals a day stuff is bs (try two pieces of stale bread with expired meat that says "not for human consumption" on it" twice a day).

my bread wasnt thoroughly cooked.  it was a half cooked yeast ball with some brown lettuce and some bologna
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: DrMDA on April 15, 2013, 07:37 pm
^^^ They allowed you guys to have yeast in your bread???? Wow you lucky bastards. Where I was at they did not allow yeast in the making of our bread since it could be used to ferment pruno (prison alcohol) so we were fed non-yeast bread which meant it was a crumbling mess. So two pieces of moldy bologna on two pieces of stale bread that crumbled to bits due to no yeast.... Don't worry though Jacklinks, I hear in the feds they get fed like lobster diners and all you can eat buffets (I'm not kidding, I heard the feds are great with their food).
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: wraithe on April 15, 2013, 08:16 pm
^^^ They allowed you guys to have yeast in your bread???? Wow you lucky bastards. Where I was at they did not allow yeast in the making of our bread since it could be used to ferment pruno (prison alcohol) so we were fed non-yeast bread which meant it was a crumbling mess. So two pieces of moldy bologna on two pieces of stale bread that crumbled to bits due to no yeast.... Don't worry though Jacklinks, I hear in the feds they get fed like lobster diners and all you can eat buffets (I'm not kidding, I heard the feds are great with their food).

I couldnt tell you wtf it was.  it was a half cooked doughball which a crusty top and uncooked stretchy insides.  There is a jail up from em a bit that gets Mcdoanlds everyda because its cheaper then them cooking lol  why couldnt I have gotten locked up in that one.  I hear feeding the prisoners mcdies everyday is cheaper then giving them the death penalty they all die from heart disease and shit LOL
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: DrMDA on April 15, 2013, 08:50 pm
^^^ Yep, the one up the road from us got Burger King everyday. I would have preferred that too especially since where I was at a prisoner in the kitchen got caught using a loaf of bologna as his own personal soft p-ssy. Kind of sucks eating meat ghetto trash was using to masturbate with :-/
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: wraithe on April 15, 2013, 09:25 pm
^^^ Yep, the one up the road from us got Burger King everyday. I would have preferred that too especially since where I was at a prisoner in the kitchen got caught using a loaf of bologna as his own personal soft p-ssy. Kind of sucks eating meat ghetto trash was using to masturbate with :-/

that cant be true lol.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: thagoat on April 15, 2013, 11:02 pm
^^^^ But he's not even selling drugs. He's selling the encouragement for YOU to sell drugs while providing the sources to buy the chemicals to do so.

This sounds exactly like something LE would do.

With this method, they can still get their conspiracy to manufacture conviction while keeping their hands clean AND make a few bucks on the side doing it.  If this isn't a LE operation, it really should be.

DMDA, I'd give you a +1 if I could for your critical thinking skills.  This is one hell of a mental exercise here.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: DrMDA on April 15, 2013, 11:14 pm
that cant be true lol.

Swear to god. Dude got stabbed in the neck for it too (convicts don't like it when you masturbate with the food they are about to eat).
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: fractalglobal on April 16, 2013, 12:01 am
@OP: This is pretty old news mate, if you check the other 2 threads featuring ddw's name in the titles, he's been ousted and shown little initiative to back up his product.

Cool to see some old bee's coming back in tho. ;D


edit: I'm skeptical at best on the whole conspiracy DEA agent thing though...

2nd edit: Wraithe: If only you coulda gotten some benzaldehyde, then you could put the yeast to good use :P
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: DrMDA on April 16, 2013, 01:32 am
^^^ I know a fractal. He's not a bee anymore though but now a wasp. This wasp was actually just over at the vespiary a couple hours ago. Same fractal?
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: fractalglobal on April 16, 2013, 02:41 am
Unfortunately not, I would have been barely in high school when the hive went down.  I have scoured every post in every archive I could find however.  I enjoy reading the threads.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: motek on April 16, 2013, 07:59 am
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Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
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@OP: This is pretty old news mate, if you check the other 2 threads featuring ddw's name in the titles, he's been ousted and shown little initiative to back up his product.

Cool to see some old bee's coming back in tho. ;D


Yeah it is great to feel the buzz around, and finally some high quality support .....   but sadly, in the 28+  RP/DDW  thread ... Too much of the relevant posts were buried amongst bullshit  :(   and no "eager noob's" going to even understand most of the relevant reasons behind (at least motek's) determination to see this  scammers skullduggery stopped ... however she was able  :P

 However, she comes from a MUCH less  'nasty country' and far more humane  one, (at least as far as police behaviour and sentencing goes)
      She  HAD NOT EVEN CONSIDERED the 'honeypot' aspect of  RP/DDW and associates  :o ::)  which from many accounts IS SOP for these dudes ...Oliver North was the marines name I couldn't recall earlier ... it's OLD school style,  LE (at it's worst)  :'(

Fortunately our experienced friend  DID notice some 'peculiarities' which reminded him of some personal experiences ... and kindly shared that information with us all ... to take as you see fit :)

IMO,  A truly Nice action bro  8)

And Now,   thanx to Dr MDA,   who has written a number of excellent posts,  succinctly explaining the "potential perils" of taking the path RP/DDW  who "suggest" that  ANYONE with 'half a brain'' Can 'follow his guides' .... which IS Bullshit, as I've been trying hard to explain  :P

       Rp's and DDW's claims ARE simply NOT TRUE   :o  and to have the backing and support of such a fine member, is a massive benefit to the whole forums advantage  8) ;D


 PLUS .... No one here,  actually put the possibility of this "whole situation" ...  into perspective,  from such a 'personally knowledgeable"  POV  8)  until DMDA   8)


  I have NO doubt DrMDA speaks the truth about their "'experience AND the resulting situations"  which (unfortunately occurred) with people who ARE a "law unto themselves"

 And having "walked the walk", He Is,  IMO,  someone who Is Very 'qualified',   to "Talk the Talk"  about the devious ways, and actions, some 'agencies'  WILL DO,  Just  to "fill their quota" to get next years funding increase, and keep their jobs and overtime bonuses  >:(

 and I for one am VERY GRATEFUL that he cared enough to bother to DO so  8) 8) 8)

Cheers DMDA for your intelligent posts and gracious manner/style  8)

I wish you ALL thee BEST with whatever you're doing .... motek KNOWS how difficult the 'transition' back into the 'Real World'  IS/can be  :P 

I hope you still  have access to some trusted friends and are making headway back in RL  :)

 DMDA please feel free to pm me anytime ...my responses can sometimes take a few days as I'm not on here that often ... although I usually drop in to check a few things and find myself still trapped/captivated  here,  5 hours later ..... I think you might know the 'problem!'  ;D


  And  everyone,    it IS  quite possible to get "lulled into a false sense of security",  esp when  'everything seems to be going 'just fine' ....
     and then, all of a sudden your world has been completely tuned upside down and inside out (or actually 'outside IN!" )  :o 

  I believe what the 'Good Dr'  is trying to DO  his best,  to get those "with ears to hear"  his words of wisdom ... learned through a tough experience  (and Not Recommended for ANYONE!)   
  to simply listen to an honest and highly experienced 'opinion' .... and hopefully save a few arses in the process , which I fully applaud

Thanx again DMDA 

Your respectful fellow member,  motek :)
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: wraithe on April 16, 2013, 01:44 pm
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Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
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@OP: This is pretty old news mate, if you check the other 2 threads featuring ddw's name in the titles, he's been ousted and shown little initiative to back up his product.

Cool to see some old bee's coming back in tho. ;D


Yeah it is great to feel the buzz around, and finally some high quality support .....   but sadly, in the 28+  RP/DDW  thread ... Too much of the relevant posts were buried amongst bullshit  :(   and no "eager noob's" going to even understand most of the relevant reasons behind (at least motek's) determination to see this  scammers skullduggery stopped ... however she was able  :P

 However, she comes from a MUCH less  'nasty country' and far more humane  one, (at least as far as police behaviour and sentencing goes)
      She  HAD NOT EVEN CONSIDERED the 'honeypot' aspect of  RP/DDW and associates  :o ::)  which from many accounts IS SOP for these dudes ...Oliver North was the marines name I couldn't recall earlier ... it's OLD school style,  LE (at it's worst)  :'(

Fortunately our experienced friend  DID notice some 'peculiarities' which reminded him of some personal experiences ... and kindly shared that information with us all ... to take as you see fit :)

IMO,  A truly Nice action bro  8)

And Now,   thanx to Dr MDA,   who has written a number of excellent posts,  succinctly explaining the "potential perils" of taking the path RP/DDW  who "suggest" that  ANYONE with 'half a brain'' Can 'follow his guides' .... which IS Bullshit, as I've been trying hard to explain  :P

       Rp's and DDW's claims ARE simply NOT TRUE   :o  and to have the backing and support of such a fine member, is a massive benefit to the whole forums advantage  8) ;D


 PLUS .... No one here,  actually put the possibility of this "whole situation" ...  into perspective,  from such a 'personally knowledgeable"  POV  8)  until DMDA   8)


  I have NO doubt DrMDA speaks the truth about their "'experience AND the resulting situations"  which (unfortunately occurred) with people who ARE a "law unto themselves"

 And having "walked the walk", He Is,  IMO,  someone who Is Very 'qualified',   to "Talk the Talk"  about the devious ways, and actions, some 'agencies'  WILL DO,  Just  to "fill their quota" to get next years funding increase, and keep their jobs and overtime bonuses  >:(

 and I for one am VERY GRATEFUL that he cared enough to bother to DO so  8) 8) 8)

Cheers DMDA for your intelligent posts and gracious manner/style  8)

I wish you ALL thee BEST with whatever you're doing .... motek KNOWS how difficult the 'transition' back into the 'Real World'  IS/can be  :P 

I hope you still  have access to some trusted friends and are making headway back in RL  :)

 DMDA please feel free to pm me anytime ...my responses can sometimes take a few days as I'm not on here that often ... although I usually drop in to check a few things and find myself still trapped/captivated  here,  5 hours later ..... I think you might know the 'problem!'  ;D


  And  everyone,    it IS  quite possible to get "lulled into a false sense of security",  esp when  'everything seems to be going 'just fine' ....
     and then, all of a sudden your world has been completely tuned upside down and inside out (or actually 'outside IN!" )  :o 

  I believe what the 'Good Dr'  is trying to DO  his best,  to get those "with ears to hear"  his words of wisdom ... learned through a tough experience  (and Not Recommended for ANYONE!)   
  to simply listen to an honest and highly experienced 'opinion' .... and hopefully save a few arses in the process , which I fully applaud

Thanx again DMDA 

Your respectful fellow member,  motek :)

you have the most erratic writing format and style.  how do you do it? lol  it looks like it is planned and requires much thought and not very feminine either
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: motek on April 16, 2013, 02:02 pm
 biker grrrl
"you have the most erratic writing format and style.  how do you do it? lol  it looks like it is planned and requires much thought and not very feminine either"

xstalmolly 100mgs iv about 10 hours ago then pot and half a g of the nicest coke i've had in ages

motek   and motek is shared bf/gf account if that helps make sense of the writing syles but we've also been together a while and one of us is isreali :o)

Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: wraithe on April 16, 2013, 03:50 pm
biker grrrl
"you have the most erratic writing format and style.  how do you do it? lol  it looks like it is planned and requires much thought and not very feminine either"

xstalmolly 100mgs iv about 10 hours ago then pot and half a g of the nicest coke i've had in ages

motek   and motek is shared bf/gf account if that helps make sense of the writing syles but we've also been together a while and one of us is isreali :o)

that explains everything lol
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: jacklinks on April 16, 2013, 04:19 pm
So you're on pot, coke, and molly. This entire thread makes sense now
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: lesseroftwoweevils on April 16, 2013, 04:23 pm
Okay whatever, some of you guys think he's a DEA. What's way more worrisome to me is the fact that motek said DDW's trying to buy his home address info from other vendors. This was written by motek in the other DrDeepWood thread:

PS .... Oh, I forgot to mention, RP has even GONE SO FAR as to OFFER $5000 (5k) to another member for my address :o :o :o :o :o fortunately like ALL good members he would NEVER DO such a thing ... some people are 'good people with cool heads'  who can see/read a scammer at fifty paces  8)
 
 this was promptly relayed to SR Admin ... who are now looking into this  8)  (finally :P)

And YES I CAN PROVE ALL THIS ... just dont think I'm going to on these forums .... I said my piece ... Take it or leave it

WHAT THE FUCK MAN! CAN WE ALL AGREE THAT A COMMENT LIKE THAT IS VERY TROUBLING?!! I don't know if motek or DDW is to be believed, but either way, someone crossed a line...
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worsut
Post by: SpaceAce on April 17, 2013, 01:54 am
I was a little concerned for the community when I saw this so I sent a message to my chemist the other day who I get my mda from.He kinda knows what he is talking as he made it. I was told this is too dangerous for a newb to be doing and that a lot of the dangerous shit can't be accounted for.

I don't think people are doing this to try and deter people from making it...just following a guide like this probably a bad dangerous idea  for many reasons people have already stated .I've even searched online myself and all the info is there already it just seems like a lot more work then following a cookbook that might get you killed/in prison

so idk I kinda wanna side with dr. mda/supporting crew that you should be careful. Idk if he is a scammer but what he is doing isn't responisble and could hurt lots of ignorant people and maybe some people next door.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: motek on April 17, 2013, 12:06 pm
Thanks and +1 for this post bro
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I don't think people are doing this to try and deter people from making it...just following a guide like this probably a bad dangerous idea  for many reasons people have already stated .I've even searched online myself and all the info is there already it just seems like a lot more work then following a cookbook that might get you killed/in prison

so idk I kinda wanna side with dr. mda/supporting crew that you should be careful. Idk if he is a scammer but what he is doing isn't responisble and could hurt lots of ignorant people and maybe some people next door.

EXACTLY.

Thanks again for your input friend,  8)  ;D
every little bit helps stop the bastards from their devious ways   >:(



P.S I LOVE your nym SpaceAce  8)  ... it was the/my favorite manga of my youth  :o  ....  with his 'Galaxy Rings' woohoo! Awesome dude!
 A BIG +1 to you friend  ;D
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: DrMDA on April 17, 2013, 03:01 pm
So you're on pot, coke, and molly. This entire thread makes sense now

lol
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: DrMDA on April 17, 2013, 03:12 pm
Btw someone messaged me his MDMA synth and I don't see what is particularly unique about it. Like I said from him listing the chemicals and equipment in his listing it was obvious which procedure he was using and it is. That synth has been out there for ages. I'm still curious where he expects newbies to safely obtain barrells of the scheduled 1 precusor safrole though ???.

I'm much more interested in seeing his LSD synth though. That one is the only one that APPEARS to not be completely copied and pasted from the old time tested literature. The LSD synth is same old same old, but the ergot cultivation looks like he MIGHT be going about it in a slightly different manner.
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: Joey Terrifying on April 17, 2013, 04:33 pm
this thread is better than most cop/crime shows
Title: Re: DrDeepWood Ron Paul is SCAMMER at best, DEA at worst
Post by: motek on April 17, 2013, 05:04 pm
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this thread is better than most cop/crime shows

lol  ;D have some karma for making me laugh in such a technically depressing thread/topic  8)