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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: bill417 on April 03, 2013, 11:52 pm
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Hello ladies and gents. It's absolutely imperative that I post this thread - I'm more than "over the moon" with this seller. To begin, let me say that having been here a year, always acquiring BTC in the usual, online automated-service method, I was VERY, VERY skeptical about using a vendor to buy BTC, let alone a brand new vendor. However, there are only a few remaining methods to acquire BTC here in the UK, all carrying some sort of risk.
BTC4Cash UK - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/853d62ae10
I am extremely happy to report that I do not have any concerns or worries, and that anyone in the UK specifically, stuck for purchasing BTC, should check this vendor out.
I'd been looking for a quick, reliable source to get the remaining 2.6 Bitcoins in order for me to place an order from a US vendor for some cannabis - whilst not medical quality - I'm sure it's going to help with my conditions. As I'd said, I was skeptical and cautious, doubting that it could, for all intent and purposes, be throwing the money down the drain.
Now I omitted something about this deal... The fact they'd sent 100% of the funds to me before I'd even sent the money (which I'll be doing tomorrow morning via Special Delivery). Their normal policy at the moment is they send 50% of the funds first, before the buyer sends the cash in the mail, as a means of gaining reputation, etc.
I'll admit and state outright that this was most definitely a one-off in return for a very positive review, along with the fact my purchasing statistics remain to be impeccable. However, I'd like to reiterate that this is obviously a very trusting vendor - and that these vendors - as per my thread about HeartOfHumboldt - are very hard to come by on Silk Road - a site in which we've seen a large amount of scammers join recently to make a quick buck.
Thanks all. Best wishes and good luck.
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Yeah man, I used them earlier too. They sent half the coins within seconds of the last PM. I'm putting the cash in the post tomorrow and they are sending me the other half as soon as they receive it. I was really happy too. Makes a change for a btc vendor to be so friendly and happy to help. Even gives discount on the coins you buy £3 under Mt. Gox weighted average. Not much but it adds up. He did want to see my buyer stats before agreeing to anything which I was fine with. But I was well happy with the service I got. Will update this thread and others after I receive the 2nd half of my coins.
Would definitely use them again!
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Think I received a -negative karma for this thread... incredible.
Yes sir, the rate was much better than anything anyone else was able to quote (bitbargain.co.uk, localbitcoins.com etc). Funds had also hit my account within about 3 minutes of our conversations.
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Haha, he sounds like this other vendor I use for my coins who offers the exact same service (bitcoinsuk), discounts and everything! Though I'm pretty sure they're not the same people.
It's also a bit premature to call him a trusted vendor after one transaction. The smart scammers only scam after they have a few legit transactions under their belt. I know you're glad that you got the coins early, but rushing to post this thread when they barely have any sales under their belt is a bit much. Always good to have more UK BTC traders though.
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Well to be totally honest, I've been flamed on here for simply having a suspicion about some vendors, in raising awareness as I hadn't thought things were genuine. Actually, one user said that "all I'd done [posted] is complain about [various] issues" or something along those lines, now that I'm offering praise, it's apparent I'm still not doing the right thing...
I could just do a runner with my ordered drugs or money - the very fact that the vendor sent all the funds over prior to getting anything, apart from my word, is honorable in itself. Furthermore, I don't believe transaction count determines the trustworthiness of an individual... more-so their personal ethics and ideologies amongst other things. There's been several, long standing, practically perfect vendors on here who had turned scam, my idea for creating an entire thread was in order to address the issue for UK Customers having increased difficulty with BTC purchasing due to blockchain methods not being available, and simply to address the issue that there have been several SR BTC vendors who ran off with the money.
Admittedly, I hadn't realised that said vendor already had a thread about his offers so I do apologise for that. If this thread poses a problem for any users, feel free to report this thread.
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Given your stats, it really isn't that shocking that he sent you the coins first. Especially for only 2.6 coins, as you're the one with a proven track record, not him/her. But obviously, they're not going to scam their first customer anyway, and the odds of someone with such an established account running off with 2.6 coins is very low. Again, not saying they are going to scam people, just highlighting the worst case scenario.
If they're even buying coins at around the market rate, then they're not going to be making much of a profit at all, so I also think that's something to note - however you chose to look at it. Not meaning to put the vendor down at all, it's just that I think it's a bit early to already be shouting from the virtual rooftops about how much of a great btc trader he is in a new thread. Hell, I may end up using them myself if my regular guy isn't back from his prolonged Easter break, so that's just my two bitcents.
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Bitcents! Little silly giggle there. I may have a proven track record, but this is now the second vendor who I've used who sent the product before being paid for it. I've never had that on civvy street in over 50 years.
Understandable POV. I'm actually led to believe they've got a load of bitcoins, and I don't see why an individual would pay for a vendor account, to advertise products they'd be losing money on. (I think they bought a while ago when the price was much lower... in a month the price has more than doubled it seems although I don't keep a track).
2.6 BTC worked out to be ~£215. This may not be much to you, but it's a great deal out of my pension, and I'm already low on funds this month.
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Haha, he sounds like this other vendor I use for my coins who offers the exact same service (bitcoinsuk), discounts and everything! Though I'm pretty sure they're not the same people.
It's also a bit premature to call him a trusted vendor after one transaction. The smart scammers only scam after they have a few legit transactions under their belt. I know you're glad that you got the coins early, but rushing to post this thread when they barely have any sales under their belt is a bit much. Always good to have more UK BTC traders though.
but at least he got his coins right? obviously he doesn't give a shit if anyone else gets scammed, which they will do 6 months or less down the line. Why else would they send the coins in advance of payment?
Big billy boy started of his message like this : hey check me out I'm a fucking big shot on the forums, people suck my dick on there even though I can't feel anything or see anything because I'm a paraplegic that lies in bed all day and the last fucker who fed me forgot to prop my head up with a pillow so all I can see is the fucking ceiling.
Give me coins I will give you good feedback?
BTC4Cash duly obliged, attached strings to him and used him like a fucking puppet
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Well to be totally honest, I've been flamed on here for simply having a suspicion about some vendors, in raising awareness as I hadn't thought things were genuine. Actually, one user said that "all I'd done [posted] is complain about [various] issues" or something along those lines, now that I'm offering praise, it's apparent I'm still not doing the right thing...
I could just do a runner with my ordered drugs or money - the very fact that the vendor sent all the funds over prior to getting anything, apart from my word, is honorable in itself. Furthermore, I don't believe transaction count determines the trustworthiness of an individual... more-so their personal ethics and ideologies amongst other things. There's been several, long standing, practically perfect vendors on here who had turned scam, my idea for creating an entire thread was in order to address the issue for UK Customers having increased difficulty with BTC purchasing due to blockchain methods not being available, and simply to address the issue that there have been several SR BTC vendors who ran off with the money.
Admittedly, I hadn't realised that said vendor already had a thread about his offers so I do apologise for that. If this thread poses a problem for any users, feel free to report this thread.
make sure you save all that cripple cash you're getting from the government so you can fully reimburse people when they get scammed, otherwise shut your fucking trap
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2.6 BTC worked out to be ~£215. This may not be much to you, but it's a great deal out of my pension, and I'm already low on funds this month.
makes sense fucking scrounger
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No this isn't me flakesmith, ha I'm not paying for another vendor account!
Yes the service is identical to mine but if he copied me or came up with it on his own doesn't matter, it's not exactly a patentable idea, it's just the natural way to do things.
Good luck to you there's enough business out there for all of us :)
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Funny, the same week Vlad1m1r (new username fugitive189; forum profile posts: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=48402) reappears in the forum after his scam last year, there is a new vendor offering the same service that he did. If this doesn't turn out to be a scam, i'll eat my hat.
Use money vendors on SR with caution folks. Just saying ;)
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Thanks for the thread bill, it's a pleasure. I'm here to offer a quality to service to silk road and trying to prove it is hard to begin with.
Funny, the same week Vlad1m1r (new username fugitive189; forum profile posts: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=48402) reappears in the forum after his scam last year, there is a new vendor offering the same service that he did. If this doesn't turn out to be a scam, i'll eat my hat.
Use money vendors on SR with caution folks. Just saying ;)
Firstly, I'm not the only vendor offering this service there are a few. I have been around for a while as a buyer, this is my first time selling. I am not, never have been, never will be anyone else. I know its easy for me to say that and expect you to believe it but I hope eventually my service will speak for itself. Your correct though, there is a lot of trust involved on both sides. I hope your hat is tasty ;)
I am going to start a review thread for my service now in the rumor mill now I'm past the dreaded 50 posts and ask people to post there once coins have been received etc.
Thanks for the interest
Any questions send me a PM or comment back here
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Thanks for the thread bill, it's a pleasure. I'm here to offer a quality to service to silk road and trying to prove it is hard to begin with.
Funny, the same week Vlad1m1r (new username fugitive189; forum profile posts: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=48402) reappears in the forum after his scam last year, there is a new vendor offering the same service that he did. If this doesn't turn out to be a scam, i'll eat my hat.
Use money vendors on SR with caution folks. Just saying ;)
Firstly, I'm not the only vendor offering this service there are a few. I have been around for a while as a buyer, this is my first time selling. I am not, never have been, never will be anyone else. I know its easy for me to say that and expect you to believe it but I hope eventually my service will speak for itself. Your correct though, there is a lot of trust involved on both sides. I hope your hat is tasty ;)
I am going to start a review thread for my service now in the rumor mill now I'm past the dreaded 50 posts and ask people to post there once coins have been received etc.
Thanks for the interest
Any questions send me a PM or comment back here
I don't have any questions at all. I am not convinced that you are not Vlad1m1r and would still urge members to use your services with caution.
One thing that stands out to me is the way you write above comments that you quote. In this context, it is understandable as you were thanking 'bill' for starting the thread. That said, Vlad1m1r and his reincarnation, fugitive189, are the only forum members I have seen that quote others and post above the quoted comments. Strange coincidence that, as well as Vlad returning the same week as you set up your service.
I would still recommend other members to exercise caution. There are too many coincidences for this not to be the same person. ;)
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Actually I think that is the first time I've done that and because I was answering posts one at a time. I understand you not being convinced and there is not much I can do to reassure you at the moment or sway your opinion.
Hopefully any coincidences, misunderstandings or mistaken identities will be ironed out in due course.
Again, hopefully my service will end up speaking for itself, had a few orders so far and hope to keep on going here. I will echo what you said and please do approach my service with caution if you feel the need but at the moment I have more to lose than you, I am sending out coins before I receive cash and stand to lose those if the cash isn't posted I'm relying on the fact of buyer stats and that most buyers here are honest and just want to by their drugs anonymously and as easily as possible. I'm expecting to lose a few coins here and there from dishonest people but hope that is a low percentage or I may not be able to continue. Or at least have to raise the bar on who to offer that too. I'm talking to a few vendors who offer similar services to see if they can offer any advice for selling here.
Again, please do keep an eye on me and the service and if I become a scammer scream it from the rooftops. I urge you too.
Thanks
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Was the Vlad guy the one who was selling (overpriced) ounces of cannabis from Canada? Or am I mixing that up with another?
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5 peoples cash were received today, all have now been paid in full. 3 outstanding. I have asked the ones that have now received all their coins to post in the forum to let everyone know.
Good Times =]
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Yeah, got all my coins paid in full. Been a good service all the way through. Would recommend them highly! I got 50% upfront because of my stats cash was received by him this morning and my coins were waiting for me today when I logged on.
Definitely who I will be using for bitcoins from now on!
Nice one ;)
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Thanks to everyone so far everything seems to be going just fine. Just so everyone knows I am building this round trust. Once you have paid for your order (or orders if your buyer stats are low) depending very much on your buyer stats you will be given a credit limit. This limit is the amount of coins you receive before you post out any cash from 25% to 100% and for now (unless you have brilliant stats I might reconsider) a limit of £250 per transaction. As I trust you more your limit will be raised. All non payers will be reported on SR and here on the forums. All coin prices are £3 below MtGox rates.
Please also check the threads in my sig for more feedback. A few have posted there as well
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Since blockchain stopped pingit payments, I was seeking a new method and did not like the idea of giving out my bank details in anyway.
A few messages to this guy, and 'bang' 50% of the agreed bitcoins in my account. Sending the cash via special delivery and will update when the other 50% comes in.
So far so good, can not fault the guy, and a good rate 2 :)
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Thanks Champ
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Actually I think that is the first time I've done that and because I was answering posts one at a time. I understand you not being convinced and there is not much I can do to reassure you at the moment or sway your opinion.
Hopefully any coincidences, misunderstandings or mistaken identities will be ironed out in due course.
Again, hopefully my service will end up speaking for itself, had a few orders so far and hope to keep on going here. I will echo what you said and please do approach my service with caution if you feel the need but at the moment I have more to lose than you, I am sending out coins before I receive cash and stand to lose those if the cash isn't posted I'm relying on the fact of buyer stats and that most buyers here are honest and just want to by their drugs anonymously and as easily as possible. I'm expecting to lose a few coins here and there from dishonest people but hope that is a low percentage or I may not be able to continue. Or at least have to raise the bar on who to offer that too. I'm talking to a few vendors who offer similar services to see if they can offer any advice for selling here.
Again, please do keep an eye on me and the service and if I become a scammer scream it from the rooftops. I urge you too.
Thanks
Please list 5 proper reasons why you stand to lose more.
Sending out coins in advance of receiving payment from CERTAIN members before based in BUYER STATS does not equate to you losing more than the buyer. The risk is pretty much non existent if you are hand picking buyers you will offer an advance to in return for good feedback. As far as I can see the only thing you have to lose by scamming someone now is the set up to your long term scam when volume of orders has increased enough to offer you a worthwhile payoff.
Why would you need to talk to other vendors offering the same service for advice? Which vendors have you spoken to ? Why would they give you advice? All vendors offering this service are fighting for the same commission fee, why would anyone offer help so you can steal their slice?
Clear scam, fortunately for you there are enough idiots on this site to fall for it
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I'm not charging a fee so not fighting for any commission. I don't make any money. I've messaged Bitcoins UK, not so much for advice but to see if we could co-operate when we have a non-payer so we not both out of pocket etc.
there is only one reason really, as I am sending out coins first the customer could take and run and not send the cash. I haven't said that I am choosing my customers on buyer stats the rate at which I will put upfront is based on buyer stats all customers are accepted. I am not out to scam anyone at all, I know saying that is not proof of anything but like I said I hope eventually my service will speak for itself.
You can call it whatever you want, you don't know me or my intentions and people will make their own minds up. I can 100% guarantee you I will not scam 1 person on this site. If there was a way to prove it I would.
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Thanks to everyone so far everything seems to be going just fine. Just so everyone knows I am building this round trust. Once you have paid for your order (or orders if your buyer stats are low) depending very much on your buyer stats you will be given a credit limit. This limit is the amount of coins you receive before you post out any cash from 25% to 100% and for now (unless you have brilliant stats I might reconsider) a limit of £250 per transaction. As I trust you more your limit will be raised. All non payers will be reported on SR and here on the forums. All coin prices are £3 below MtGox rates.
Please also check the threads in my sig for more feedback. A few have posted there as well
Of course you are building this based on trust, how else would you get the big payoff at the end of the scam. That's how they work don't they?
This is why you've bought in this dumb credit limit idea. The whole idea being a few days/weeks down the line you will make a big announcement how certain buyers (that never existed) have scammed you, and that you've lost a significant amount of money and how your wife might have to go back on street corners so you can recoup your loses. Milked correctly your target base will lower their guard, increase their trust and not even pay attention to the fact the exploited credit facility has been revoked.
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If I lose problem thats my fault no-one else's. I wouldn't expect anyone to try and bail me out if thats what you mean? Credit is there to stay unless they fail to pay. If that happens again its on me. Really this is not a scam. As soon as you consider it turning into a scam or likely to go that way please shout it all over the forums. I would.
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Really this is not a scam. As soon as you consider it turning into a scam or likely to go that way please shout it all over the forums. I would.
I'm doing that right now
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yes with no proof other than your own warped sense of things. I meant when there is actual proof that I have either scammed someone or doinf something that is underhand in someway. At the moment you are just working on unfounded assumptions.
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Vendor: BTC4CASH
Product: BTC - below MtGox Rates. Cash in Post
I'll start by saying I never thought I would see a service like this.
I was sent all coins instantly, at the lowered rate and some extra. From the start of communication to having the bitcoins in my wallet was under an hour. I'm gobsmacked at how easy, cheap, stealthy and quick this transaction was. I've bought bitoins in most other ways and I can't stress enough, this service is unparalleled on or off the road.
My only concern is they will run out of bitcoins, but vendor has plans in place to acquire more.
Vendor showed amazing trust and offered rapid, thorough and kind communication.
Needless to say I'll be back for more, I won't be going anywhere else in the future.
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Thanks for the review. Welcome back anytime
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15 outstanding orders so should have a lot more positive feedback hitting the forum next week. Thanks to everyone so far :)
To answer a few questions that I've had a few times by PM;
Its UK only,
(unless you are willing to send £ notes from whatever country you are in, and have 0 coins upfront until the cash is received. In all honesty there are easier ways than this. Search the main site for somone in your country, local bitcoins, etc.)
Its cash only, no bank transfers, ukash etc.
Thanks again everyone, PM me on here or the main site if you have any questions or comments :)
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Thanks everyone. Had a few people (mostly looking to invest in bitcoin) If I will do discounts on price per coin for larger orders. The answer is yes.. If your looking for amounts over £1000 then I will apply a much larger discount per coin.
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Currently doing discount on bulk buys
Over £1000 - £15 per coin below MtGox Weighted avg
Over £2000 - £25 per coin below MtGox Weighted avg
Over £3000 - £32 per coin below MtGox Weighted avg
This is still cash in the post so please take that into consideration, Special delivery is insured for up to £500 per letter/package so it may be wise to send multiple letters.
I have someone talking to me at the moment who wants to do £10000 in 4 lots of £2500. If he decides to go through with it I will get him to post here to let everyone know that (1) large order was successful and (2) I sold at the discounted rate.
This may be re-evaluated if the price of coins continue to rise steadily or drop drastically.
Please PM me on the main site if you have any questions or comments.
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Could be a lifeline for a few people I know, I assume I'd have escrow on any purchase? I guess I'll message you on the main site. Have bought BTC via post on other sites - also met up for a coin exchange. Right now I got my coin guy holding onto most for dear life! But, all it takes is for a few supercomputers to mine, maybe even houses taken over for mining as happens with cannabis growing.
Anyways, most of us cannot afford to spend thousands on hi tech graphic cards that cost more than a decent second car!
So, I've never taken the plunge here to buy coins - it would not be my money so I'd be hoping for a honest vendor!
Ah well, worth a bash to help some friends in need, plus what they buy I guess I'm in on that also ;D
Red.
ps, work passes so quick when posting here!
Guess its the giddy intellectual heights we reach here ;)
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Only just put in an order an hour ago, and it's all done. Really quick service, and great comms. Will be back.
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Have a lot of coin out in big transactions at the moment so temporarily the max transaction is £500, and discount £5 below weighted average. I will update thread when things get back to normal
Thanks Everyone
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Everything Back to normal now.
Only 2 Non-Payers so far, will be reporting them today and making other vendors aware. Named and shamed below.
olids
pelezmostar
Be careful with these guys vendors.
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NEW RATES NOW BTC SEEMS TO OF STABILIZED
Up to £500 - £3 below MtGox Average rate
Above £500- £5 below MtGox Average rate
Above £1000 - £7.50 below MtGox Average Rate
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I have used BTC4CASH a few times. Most recently for £1.5k and everything went smoothly. Very fast response normally and will do his best to help you out.
Any questions, just message him.
It is nice having a reliable source of coins.
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NEW RATES NOW BTC SEEMS TO OF STABILIZED
Up to £500 - £3 below MtGox Average rate
Above £500- £5 below MtGox Average rate
Above £1000 - £7.50 below MtGox Average Rate
I will have the cash to make a purchase of at least £500 at the end of the week. I know i've spoken with you through PM but I'm just very cautious sending the money. Anything you can do to ease my fears?
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If you worried about doing large amounts, a few small amounts to get you to your target level? I haven't had any complaints yet mate nobody can ease your fears except you I'm afraid.
Thanks for the reviews guys
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Third order with this vendor - Can't really rate any higher.
communication is spot on, quick replies faster then any other vendor.
bitcoins where into my account in what seemed minutes
5/5
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Thanks :)
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Note that the rate is on based on 24-hour average http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currency/GBP.html
Superb customer service. Would have no qualms with using for all my BTC needs in the future.
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Thanks :)
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Top service from BTC4CASH UK. Prompt, patient, good communication, smooth transaction.
Will be my go-to bitcoin source for the foreseeable.
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Thank you :)
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Thanks everyone, had a couple of non-payers so far so I have left them a message below ;)
I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for drugs, I can tell you I don't have any.
But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career.
Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you give my money back now, that'll be the end of it.
I will not look for you, I will not pursue you.
But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.
8)
:D
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Right, someone has paid and not sent me the tracking number...... If you have paid and I haven't confirmed receiving it could you PLEASE get in touch.
I need either the tracking number or at the very least how it was sent and the amount.
I can then confirm it, and also pay you out any coins if there is any outstanding!
Thanks
Please update me with the tracking number once you've sent it guys, makes things so much easier!!
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UPDATE - 20/04 - Offline for 24 hours, IRL stuff to sort out will answer PM's, Orders etc tomorrow morning
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Everything should be back to normal today
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The site is so slow its too hard taking orders at the moment!!!! >:(
So for now I'm afraid taking no new orders again. Just dealing with the ones I already have.
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Due to the sites instability I am no longer taking orders its too frustrating, will still process current orders as and when I can.
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Noooooooo :'(
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I'm back up if anyone is in need, check my profile :)
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Hi again everybody,
I know have all my IRL business sorted so can come back and offer you my services again. I am now back selling and buying bitcoin. I guarantee you will not be disappointed with my service. I have a low fee structure and offer great customer service to all customers. please see my vendor page for listings and fee structures.
Thanks
BTC4CASH UK
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used again today perfect as always