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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: TheBusiness on August 27, 2012, 11:01 am

Title: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: TheBusiness on August 27, 2012, 11:01 am
I reckon I'm out of pocket about $400 because of selective scamming or seizures.

It's not the end of the world really, but it's still annoying.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Seeker on August 27, 2012, 01:07 pm
New user
1 transaction
lost $35 (fake product was sent)    :-\

Not a good start.  I realise the risk tho.  I've got a few more dollar to risk but thats it then... if nothing good comes of my next transaction I'll leave.

Everyone said research first so I did.  I searched the forums, I read every page of feedback but still got conned so dunno.   I prefer to use google vendors or email sources over SR.  ive actually never been conned using them despite 100's of transactions.

SR has its advantages but its over priced, easy to fake feedback and I suspect probably mostly a scam   :'(
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: ZenAndTheArt on August 27, 2012, 01:55 pm
OP - Just out of interest, which particular drugs did you lose your money on? I've got a theory that depending on which category of drugs you choose to buy from, determines what kind of experience you get from the Road. For example, on a rare occasion I'll order some Hash, and every time I have the vendors seem to take an age to put it in transit.

It's just a theory I've got. 
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Seeker on August 27, 2012, 02:00 pm
Its kinda true but kinda not

I mean in the world of weed you're less likely to get ripped off than the world of heroin buts generally cuz people are friends in the weed world first and less likely to be in serious WD etc

but on SR I don't think it makes a lot of diff - its all vendors, some honest, some scam, some in between the the 2 seeing how far they can push it.

Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: TheBusiness on August 27, 2012, 02:12 pm
Not a particular kind really. I'm not overly concerned, this isn't McDonalds heh. :) Didn't get burned as bad as I thought I would when I was new here, it actually just seems to be part of it all even now. I do wonder if perfect buyer stats make you a target for scamming though.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: ZenAndTheArt on August 27, 2012, 02:21 pm
I don't know bra, that seems like a lot of money to lose when starting out.
But is that $400 out of $5000 or ,like, $500?
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Seeker on August 27, 2012, 02:27 pm
I do wonder if perfect buyer stats make you a target for scamming though.

I was wondering this as well.  I noticed people had given 5/5's even though the comment was to say they got scammed...   ???   wtf

I left my first guy a 1/5 cuz he sent fake goods.  Does that make me a target now for other vendors to scam me too and just say im a complainer? 

Maybe the fact i had 0 FB made me a target as well hence my first purchase being fake :p
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Limetless on August 27, 2012, 02:30 pm
Maybe £30 at the most lol. Happy Panda.  :D
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: ZenAndTheArt on August 27, 2012, 02:34 pm
Maybe £30 at the most lol. Happy Panda.  :D
Same here (<£30), but I bet you've spent ten times what I have!
But lets not start showing each other our buying stats, I hate that shit.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Knomo on August 27, 2012, 02:38 pm
Like 20€ or something, nothing much really :)
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: anonaddict on August 27, 2012, 02:59 pm
nothing yet, but had to get one refund. Ordered hash from DutchShop and had to get a 100% refund after 25 days.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: psykhe on August 27, 2012, 03:31 pm
£200 lost to Vlad1m1r. First transaction, too. Fucked off is an understatement.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Budtender01 on August 27, 2012, 03:52 pm
This thread should be titled : How much have you made/saved........

Ive only been scammed once in alot of transactions. I really don't like saying too much on here but I'm on the plus side of things.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Delta11 on August 27, 2012, 04:11 pm
Like about tree fiddy.  :D Only about $600 so far, it could've been more but luckily I didn't have enough money to buy more from Tony, that bastard.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Tunbear on August 27, 2012, 04:53 pm
When first trying to get a vendor account I lost either $300 because that's what I asked for or $600 which was what the fentanyl patches I sent were worth.

Lost over £400 recently because of a bitcoin scam or a bitcoin vendor getting busted nobody knows yet.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: ilovebeees on August 27, 2012, 04:56 pm
Lost about $2500 on my last order from tony. Still turned a profit off of all the other stuff I bought from him though, so I didn't get completely fucked. Only time I've been scammed/not received an order...
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: MagicMan on August 27, 2012, 06:42 pm
Lost only about a grand, generally I've been pretty careful but can't win 'em all. Cost wise, I'm still making out better than I would be if I had to get everything from the streets so I still consider SR to be a big plus in my life.

EDIT: for grammar
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Holly on August 27, 2012, 06:52 pm
300 from milehighmedicine
400 from foreverfamily
260 from tony

small potatoes but they're still all fuckers.
never again
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: TheBusiness on August 27, 2012, 11:09 pm
Yeh my loss is only a smaller percentage of the "wins" .. but sounds like you UK / USA people have a far better win ratio. Buggers! :)
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Thunderweed on August 28, 2012, 12:37 am
i've lost 0 off of SR, probably because I never FE and only buy from domestic trusted vendors

I stopped counting the amount of money SR was making me after making my 2nd buy from here, --- basically a good amount of cash
<3
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: TrustusJones on August 28, 2012, 12:50 am
back when i first got started I purchased some hash for a friend from a dutch vendor who decided to go 'rogue' that exact weekend... may have been $50 usd... pretty sure I have made it back since then... lol

on another note... if anyone is falling for the MtGix.com scam that is running.... damn pull your head out of your ass!!! that is such a blatant scam I have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone who falls for it...

TJ

Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: drdroopy on August 28, 2012, 01:41 am
So far i have spent 2k and  im down 70$ and if i must say that is better then any street vendor!!!! and the quality has more then made up the 70$ im down!!!
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: farmer1 on August 28, 2012, 01:50 am
i've lost 0 off of SR, probably because I never FE and only buy from domestic trusted vendors

I stopped counting the amount of money SR was making me after making my 2nd buy from here, --- basically a good amount of cash
<3

I like your style. $0 lost and you never FE. You are a good example for others.

I think the title of this thread needs to be changed to "How Much $ Have You Lost ON SR?". SR didn't make you do anything - they simply provide a safe meeting place for us to interact. They sure aren't trying to protect you from yourself, that is clear.  They have provided a way to protect you from those you do business with (escrow) but if you don't use it that is your own choice.

It bothers me to hear so many people have been scammed here. It hurts faith in the marketplace, and that hurts good buyers and vendors alike. As buyers you need to raise your standards and only deal with members who do not require FE. If you loose money during a transaction which was FE then it really was your own fault.

Am I missing something or is everyone just getting scammed with FE? Are there other scams in the mix here?
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: smokeweed420 on August 28, 2012, 03:42 am
im up 8,000 because of SR  8)
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: tpebop on August 28, 2012, 05:30 am
Zero dollars knock on wood cross my fingers thank the lord!
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: ODB on August 28, 2012, 05:52 am
Zero dollars knock on wood cross my fingers thank the lord!

Careful, man, there's a beverage here!
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Joeyjojojr on August 28, 2012, 05:54 am
100% success rate here. I love this place more than words can describe.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: tpebop on August 28, 2012, 06:28 am
Zero dollars knock on wood cross my fingers thank the lord!

Careful, man, there's a beverage here!
NICE!
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: inthedaytimewitha on August 28, 2012, 06:51 am
50 transactions $3k spent $0 lost
knock on wood
i've only fe'd twice on really small orders
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: UKMJ on August 28, 2012, 08:27 am
Hey psykhe what happened with vlad1m1r, did your cash not turn up or what? Never heard bad feedback about him and i often recommend him to UK buyers as a source of BTC.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Seeker on August 28, 2012, 11:08 am
Add another $40 losses to mine total loss so far $75

Goods expected last week domestic did not arrive.  2nd order on SR.  Second time scammed.   >:(  i've got a 3rd order - this vendor did not require FE so I bet this one actually arrives, despite being international.

I suspect noobs are targets for scams even in top sellers since they can make them FE as they have no purchase history. 

2 buys 2 losses so far tho this site is pissing me off.   :(
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Wazup7 on September 04, 2012, 12:00 pm
Add another $40 losses to mine total loss so far $75

Goods expected last week domestic did not arrive.  2nd order on SR.  Second time scammed.   >:(  i've got a 3rd order - this vendor did not require FE so I bet this one actually arrives, despite being international.

I suspect noobs are targets for scams even in top sellers since they can make them FE as they have no purchase history. 

2 buys 2 losses so far tho this site is pissing me off.   :(

I just want to point out that you pretty much scammed yourself by finalizing early.  No vendor can make you finalize early--they can only request it, usually from new buyers with low stats.  Which means if you don't want to finalize early, you will need to have some buyer stats under your belt.  There are ways to get stats without finalizing early.  And if you are really in a crunch, there are ways to get stats that do involve FE, but have very little risk in the way of being scammed.  All of this information is discussed perpetually in the SR forums.  You can't miss it.

So the rule is to "Never FE," and the chances of losing any money go almost to zero.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: NanaNana45 on September 04, 2012, 01:53 pm
Ohh the old days. Like 8 months ago i've lost around 400$ over a period of 2 weeks. But after checking the matter it turned out to be the fucking postman who stole the orders not a case of selective scamming as i thought before. Other than that my business was smooth like silk, despite using multiple vendors and some were new to the scene.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: DwarfSeeker on September 04, 2012, 02:28 pm
ripped off by $300, but karma tripled my reserve BTC for 3jane, so it all worked out in the end
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: BOGAN BOB on September 04, 2012, 02:34 pm
Only lost around $50 so far, but have made/saved shitloads more than iv lost:)
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Mr.Charlie on September 04, 2012, 02:39 pm
I got scammed by Obamagirl i think was the vendors name, it was like 50-60$ over a g of MDMA, finalized early cus i was new and then i come to the forums and everyone said she was a scammer. Of course i never received my shit.

After that I've never Finalized early and i never intend too. I've received every order, some NL orders have taken quite awhile, but they always came in. I've been waiting 3 weeks for an order from abzu, if that shit doesn't come in I'm pushing to get all my btc back, but there seems to be a lot of people waiting longer than usual on orders, especially from that part of the world.


But yeah, S.R. has definitely helped me way more than set me back. It's got a great system, and a great community.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: Fat_Speedy_Guy on September 04, 2012, 05:33 pm
No more than £10-£20. Buy from trusted vendors and don't FE unless they're incredibly trusted and high rep.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: gtgeorgz on September 04, 2012, 06:21 pm
never been scammed on 12 transactions! 0btc lost :)
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: fuckingACE on September 04, 2012, 06:36 pm
Maby I´m just very lucky or I over analyze each buy, but in 11 transactions ( I realize its not very much) I´ve lost nothing at all..  But then I do spend ages on the sellers pages, reading feedback looking for patterns, seeing if the sellers behavior is normal for them and looking at announcements in the forums, checking if there's a high loss rate from the sellers country..  All my purchases have been smallish, grams here and there  no bulk.... yet

ACE
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: ianfleming on September 04, 2012, 07:35 pm
I've spent about $300 so far I lost about $20 but this was awhile back, eventually bitcoins a appreciated and I was able to get the same product from another vendor, so no real loss.
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: fuckingACE on September 04, 2012, 08:22 pm
Add another $40 losses to mine total loss so far $75

Goods expected last week domestic did not arrive.  2nd order on SR.  Second time scammed.   >:(  i've got a 3rd order - this vendor did not require FE so I bet this one actually arrives, despite being international.

I suspect noobs are targets for scams even in top sellers since they can make them FE as they have no purchase history. 

2 buys 2 losses so far tho this site is pissing me off.   :(

I just want to point out that you pretty much scammed yourself by finalizing early.  No vendor can make you finalize early--they can only request it, usually from new buyers with low stats.  Which means if you don't want to finalize early, you will need to have some buyer stats under your belt.  There are ways to get stats without finalizing early.  And if you are really in a crunch, there are ways to get stats that do involve FE, but have very little risk in the way of being scammed.  All of this information is discussed perpetually in the SR forums.  You can't miss it.

So the rule is to "Never FE," and the chances of losing any money go almost to zero.

If you´re really having that much trouble PM me next time you want to place an order and Ill help you look for a decent seller. I know of people also that get their friends to place orders for them if they have better stats.. it just avoids the stance sellers are taking now of under 10 transactions you have to FE..
Title: Re: How Much $ Have You Lost Because of SR?
Post by: spacecase #2 on September 04, 2012, 08:30 pm
I would say that even more of a problem then losing money is paying premium prices from well established vendors with great reviews and receiving mediocre at best products. Happens far too often around this place.