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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Limetless on August 06, 2012, 06:31 pm
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Not really, I'm happier out of a warzone on the whole.
Seriously though has anyone been keeping up with this in the news and seen the big politician that has defected from the Assad Regime, it's on channel 4 news now (U.K T.V).
Would anyone care to speculate how this is going to play out? I can't see Assad's forced holding out much longer.
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Well what isn't reported by western media is that the Assad regime still have huge support from alot of Syrian residents, which is perhaps why they are desperately clinging on...
Also they are pretty confident that foreign powers will not interfere like in Libya and certainly not to the extent as in Afghanistan or Iraq as Syria have a big, powerful military, including a sophisticated airforce.
So with the knowledge that they have a big support base in the people, as well as the fact that foreign powers will not get involved on a military level, the regime knows that basically whoever wins the civil war will take/keep control of the country. So I think they're like "fuck it" lets just try and win it as quickly as possible regardless of war crimes/human rights abuses.
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Yeah I think the FSA will come through eventually though, it's all part of the Arab Spring. Wonder what the body count will be by the time it's all over, I do fee for the Syrians that are effected by Assad's terror tactics. It's a disgrace.
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I do fee for the Syrians that are effected by Assad's terror tactics. It's a disgrace.
Same here, apparently something like 1000 people a week are dying - what a sad waste of life - and all because the regime won't let the people chose for themselves who leads them.
Its mind-boggling that a government would rather slaughter thousands/tens of thousands of it's own people and wreck countless homes rather than hold a democratic election. And the rest of the world just watches!
Anyway i'm startin to fuck up my high - off tho the "chat more shit" thread :)
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You should come over to the Verbal Diarrhea thread, it's the new cooler version of Chat More Shit.
The irony is if Assad just had a democratic Priminster-position he could have kept the hereditary Presidency anyway and looked all the better for it. Completely unneeded.
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pure ego, politics and the dollar are behind this. fucking full blown civil was there, even if the media still calls them 'Rebels.'
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Syrian people are the nicest people ever, this is really sad to see and I can't imagine how it's going to play out with any degree of certainty. Assad will fall at some point but it's unfortunately got a bloody path to some sort of solution. I've not paid much attention recently because of Curiosity and the Olympics but the UN need to do something, like a no-fly zone. Sanctions and finger-pointing aren't very effective. :( I hope it turns out like Libya and Damascus is liberated within a month.
I'm not necessarily for the FSA, but Assad has to go.
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It wont be like Libya because the Former Communists and the Current Communists are balls deep in the clunge that is Assad's Regime. Sales for weapons much?
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gotta watch russia, china & iran. theyre the big boys keeping Syria afloat.
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I doubt it will go on much longer. The only people still supporting the regime are people too close to Assad to dissent. Many of them are afraid of being killed if they switch sides. Good for the rebels, though.
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gotta watch russia, china & iran. theyre the big boys keeping Syria afloat.
Oil and arms sales are very motivating. I liked those MI-24s sent by Russia for "defence purposes" Also I do believe the Russians get a bit of a kick out of slighting Western interests, although that could be my parents coming through with their Cold War era upbringing :D
Still I am glad that the US has tried to stay out of this as much as possible without UN sanction. We have a habit of arming the wrong sides or charging into a quagmire.
:/
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Also I do believe the Russians get a bit of a kick out of slighting Western interests
It's because they have a silly alphabet and don't want to admit they are jealous. Think about the guy next door who has the perfect garden so when you take your dog a walk you don't put him on the leash for 2 minutes so pooch can do a shit on next doors lawn. You can't go and stop the dog, that'd be tresspassing.....so you just gotta let it shit.
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Also I do believe the Russians get a bit of a kick out of slighting Western interests
It's because they have a silly alphabet and don't want to admit they are jealous. Think about the guy next door who has the perfect garden so when you take your dog a walk you don't put him on the leash for 2 minutes so pooch can do a shit on next doors lawn. You can't go and stop the dog, that'd be tresspassing.....so you just gotta let it shit.
I'll have to run this analogy by the old man, he will get a kick :D
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Also I do believe the Russians get a bit of a kick out of slighting Western interests
It's because they have a silly alphabet and don't want to admit they are jealous. Think about the guy next door who has the perfect garden so when you take your dog a walk you don't put him on the leash for 2 minutes so pooch can do a shit on next doors lawn. You can't go and stop the dog, that'd be tresspassing.....so you just gotta let it shit.
Spoken like a true master wordsmith. This is poetry. This metaphor is art, dammit.
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so who are the good guys? there are good guys, aren't there?
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Also I do believe the Russians get a bit of a kick out of slighting Western interests
It's because they have a silly alphabet and don't want to admit they are jealous. Think about the guy next door who has the perfect garden so when you take your dog a walk you don't put him on the leash for 2 minutes so pooch can do a shit on next doors lawn. You can't go and stop the dog, that'd be tresspassing.....so you just gotta let it shit.
Spoken like a true master wordsmith. This is poetry. This metaphor is art, dammit.
Well he is the limetless I reckon.
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so who are the good guys? there are good guys, aren't there?
when money arms and power are more important than human life, there will never be a 'good guy'
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so who are the good guys? there are good guys, aren't there?
Well in this particular game of 5-a-side it depends who you support, if you are a fan of Real Dictatorship FC then you're Assad where taking penalties includes slaughtering your own population indiscriminately, torturing your political opponents. However their downside is their defense because the back row can't come up with anything better than "Yeah....errrr....there arrre some terrorists....YEAH THAT'S RIGHT, TERRORISTS! They are the ones that are killing civilians, definitely not us. Oh and these terrorists are armed, definitely armed.....with government issue tanks and heavy weapons. No that isn't 'Syrian Army' stamped on there....it says 'Syrian Farmers' but it's scratched.....totes true guys FOR REALZ!"
However if you gun for FC Free Syrian Army (no the Syrian Farmers) you generally agree with non-standard uniforms, webcasts about freedom and liberalism and videos of the shit you pull off on camera phones. When the war is over however you will probably forgo these revolutionary beliefs to a more bent and corrupt form of politics and we shall rinse and repeat and start over.
A tough decision if there ever was one!
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RDFC! FTW!!!! i'd love to see Putin come out the tunnel wrapped in a lionskin.
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RDFC! FTW!!!! i'd love to see Putin come out the tunnel wrapped in a lionskin.
Would he be doing judo flips with one hand and rigging elections with the other while riding a horse with no top on?
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no, in my vision he's actually entering on a jetski with teh horses head impaled on the prow, with a glistening unicorn horn dangling between its eyes.
the russians always fuck up one piece of their perfect plan. like communism, hey its great stuff. but this money thing? goddamn its addictive.
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no, in my vision he's actually entering on a jetski with teh horses head impaled on the prow, with a glistening unicorn horn dangling between its eyes.
the russians always fuck up one piece of their perfect plan. like communism, hey its great stuff. but this money thing? goddamn its addictive.
Lol communism was a shit idea before Marx even decided to write it down on paper.
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communism's fucked because its ideology is in total contrast to human nature.
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Yeah exactly, same with Socialism. That's why I don't really get on board with the left-chat that sometimes comes up on here where people drag on about how the world should be equal. Never gunna happen and it's all hippie chat IMO.
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i was all hippie when i was younger because all i did was smoke weed play guitar & listen to 60s/70s music. when you take the world as it is, and as it always has been; pure nature. dog eat dog. you realize that humanity and all the leftish hippie bullshit is nothing but bullshit.
its still a nice idea to love one another as brothers hand in hand. but it ain't gonna happen.
no matter how many drugs we all take :D
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there are no good guys but there are loser's either way!!! the poor Syrian people will be the losers no matter what.
lets see a piece of shit like Assad keeps control of the country - lose.
The "rebels" cough - win and the fucking piece of shit Muslim Brotherhood takes over another country.
I really feel sorry for the poor bastards there - no matter what happens they r screwed.
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Not really, I'm happier out of a warzone on the whole.
Seriously though has anyone been keeping up with this in the news and seen the big politician that has defected from the Assad Regime, it's on channel 4 news now (U.K T.V).
Would anyone care to speculate how this is going to play out? I can't see Assad's forced holding out much longer.
Part of the problem too is that Assad kept the militant Islamists in place, who are also rebelling alongside the Free Army who want some form of democracy. I was going to suggest now the Armory's shutting down if anyone has any spare weapons perhaps they could donate them to this good cause?
V.
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there are no good guys but there are loser's either way!!! the poor Syrian people will be the losers no matter what.
lets see a piece of shit like Assad keeps control of the country - lose.
The "rebels" cough - win and the fucking piece of shit Muslim Brotherhood takes over another country.
I really feel sorry for the poor bastards there - no matter what happens they r screwed.
This is why I should become leader of Syria. I'd be fucking A.
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there are no good guys but there are loser's either way!!! the poor Syrian people will be the losers no matter what.
lets see a piece of shit like Assad keeps control of the country - lose.
The "rebels" cough - win and the fucking piece of shit Muslim Brotherhood takes over another country.
I really feel sorry for the poor bastards there - no matter what happens they r screwed.
This is why I should become leader of Syria. I'd be fucking A.
At least in a Dictatorship you know where you are... :-)
V.
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there are no good guys but there are loser's either way!!! the poor Syrian people will be the losers no matter what.
lets see a piece of shit like Assad keeps control of the country - lose.
The "rebels" cough - win and the fucking piece of shit Muslim Brotherhood takes over another country.
I really feel sorry for the poor bastards there - no matter what happens they r screwed.
This is why I should become leader of Syria. I'd be fucking A.
At least in a Dictatorship you know where you are... :-)
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I'd be great.
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I'm going to throw my opinion in without expecting to get a positive response. I see the humor in Limet's post and respect everyone's right to believe as they like. I am not attempting to disrespect anyone.
I'm not real hot on mincing political ideologies because they are all different perspectives on how to best organize the idea of 'state' and how best to manifest the qualities that help to create 'order' Religion is similar because it is used as a type of 'remote control socialism' without all of the accoutrements, but it is long on dogma. How does that reflect the topic?
What we see unfolding in Syria is no different than the numerous destabilizations that make up America's history. If you study it enough you can see the blueprint in the events as they play out. I am familiar with how American NGOs are used to make inroads to nations set up for 'regime change', or as I like to view it central banking/multinational corp. 'reconstruction' and realignment to a resource harvesting operation. They maximize harvesting resources with whatever necessary benefits they have to extend to the population while extracting as much from that nation as they can.
Syria is the current target of America and Izrahell. What I think is so brutally ironic is that America, Al-CIAduh, and Izrahell are ALL in agreement with the destabilization of Syria. That means all three are on the same side. Al-Qaeda!?!? The group we are supposed to believe attacked America. Al-Qaeda as a group of 'Muslim radicals bent on global jihad or domination' is a complete farce. Al-Qaeda is a covert operation that is more correctly identified as Al-CIAduh. The insurgents are armed, trained, and supported by the United States and they have gone from nation to nation destroying the governments so that they might be 'reformed' in a more palatable, sympathetic version. Follow the money trails. Egypt, Libya, Bahrain, Syria. If all you did was change their names to El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Panama, Chile the exact same blueprint was used 50 years ago.
Let me first say I'm not advocating anything. I despise religion and the political party hair-splitting that makes people believe that because they associate themselves with this group they are immune from the stupidity their ignorance is responsible for. These are nonmilitary personnel being slaughtered by mercenaries seeking to establish an foothold to erode a culture and exchange it for a system that makes Dracula look like a girl scout. Are we really so naive as to believe that we will keep the wolves at bay through obedience, passivity, and appeasement? Like Twelve_Pickles said, "its still a nice idea to love one another as brothers hand in hand. but it ain't gonna happen." I realize the 'brotherhood on man, hand in hand' shit isn't a reality but what the fuck about just dropping the corporate invasion and transition into a huge fucking slave ship of state?
Are we just a pack of mindless fucking lemmings following the pied piper from hell? 'Live and let live'?!?! Do we realize the amount and degree of the propaganda that we consume and process and what the goal of it is? We live in a world where a relatively small group of people keep the majority on life support and anesthetized just enough to keep the system alive.
'Fight'? I'm so god damn tired of 'the way things are' I'm ready for a change.
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all seriousness now, i agree.
read shock doctrine, by Naomi Klein and it opened my eyes to America's destruction in Central & South America, i can totally see the parallels towards the middle east.
+1 Sah.
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The war in Syria is a bunch of NATO sponsored sectarian lunatics against a totalitarian family regime, their both dirtbags, but id support Assad and secularism over that right wing islamic madness anyday. Religion is primitive and crazy, putting it into power is even more stupid.
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I'm going to throw my opinion in without expecting to get a positive response. I see the humor in Limet's post and respect everyone's right to believe as they like. I am not attempting to disrespect anyone.
I'm not real hot on mincing political ideologies because they are all different perspectives on how to best organize the idea of 'state' and how best to manifest the qualities that help to create 'order' Religion is similar because it is used as a type of 'remote control socialism' without all of the accoutrements, but it is long on dogma. How does that reflect the topic?
What we see unfolding in Syria is no different than the numerous destabilizations that make up America's history. If you study it enough you can see the blueprint in the events as they play out. I am familiar with how American NGOs are used to make inroads to nations set up for 'regime change', or as I like to view it central banking/multinational corp. 'reconstruction' and realignment to a resource harvesting operation. They maximize harvesting resources with whatever necessary benefits they have to extend to the population while extracting as much from that nation as they can.
Syria is the current target of America and Izrahell. What I think is so brutally ironic is that America, Al-CIAduh, and Izrahell are ALL in agreement with the destabilization of Syria. That means all three are on the same side. Al-Qaeda!?!? The group we are supposed to believe attacked America. Al-Qaeda as a group of 'Muslim radicals bent on global jihad or domination' is a complete farce. Al-Qaeda is a covert operation that is more correctly identified as Al-CIAduh. The insurgents are armed, trained, and supported by the United States and they have gone from nation to nation destroying the governments so that they might be 'reformed' in a more palatable, sympathetic version. Follow the money trails. Egypt, Libya, Bahrain, Syria. If all you did was change their names to El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Panama, Chile the exact same blueprint was used 50 years ago.
Let me first say I'm not advocating anything. I despise religion and the political party hair-splitting that makes people believe that because they associate themselves with this group they are immune from the stupidity their ignorance is responsible for. These are nonmilitary personnel being slaughtered by mercenaries seeking to establish an foothold to erode a culture and exchange it for a system that makes Dracula look like a girl scout. Are we really so naive as to believe that we will keep the wolves at bay through obedience, passivity, and appeasement? Like Twelve_Pickles said, "its still a nice idea to love one another as brothers hand in hand. but it ain't gonna happen." I realize the 'brotherhood on man, hand in hand' shit isn't a reality but what the fuck about just dropping the corporate invasion and transition into a huge fucking slave ship of state?
Are we just a pack of mindless fucking lemmings following the pied piper from hell? 'Live and let live'?!?! Do we realize the amount and degree of the propaganda that we consume and process and what the goal of it is? We live in a world where a relatively small group of people keep the majority on life support and anesthetized just enough to keep the system alive.
'Fight'? I'm so god damn tired of 'the way things are' I'm ready for a change.
This needs a Tl;DR
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I have a good friend who is from (and lives in) Homs, Syria and I get to speak to him every once in awhile, when they actually get working internet. Their communications are blocked often and only those with the technical knowledge to get past the limitations are able to still speak with the outside world. He has posted a lot about how things are going, and so far, it doesn't seem to be going in any direction. It's like they are stuck in limbo, and the senseless deaths keep piling up in the meantime. The Syrians are such great people, it saddens me that they have to go through something like this just to get the rights they deserve. I fear for my friend's life every day and freak out when I don't hear back from him in awhile. I really, really hope things can be resolved very soon, and the Syrian people are able to move on from this hell they had to live in. :'(
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+ 1 karma Enemy of the State
every word true - I was gonna really respond but thought better of it.
and hipsterpikachu my best wishes for your innocent friend and all of the people there.
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I quite like Israel, they are surrounded by enemies and don't take any shit, more power to them. And no, I don't care if people object to that and I'm not gunna change my mind before anyone says "Blah blah but Israel did this that and the other".
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I have a good friend who is from (and lives in) Homs, Syria and I get to speak to him every once in awhile, when they actually get working internet. Their communications are blocked often and only those with the technical knowledge to get past the limitations are able to still speak with the outside world. He has posted a lot about how things are going, and so far, it doesn't seem to be going in any direction. It's like they are stuck in limbo, and the senseless deaths keep piling up in the meantime. The Syrians are such great people, it saddens me that they have to go through something like this just to get the rights they deserve. I fear for my friend's life every day and freak out when I don't hear back from him in awhile. I really, really hope things can be resolved very soon, and the Syrian people are able to move on from this hell they had to live in. :'(
I hope all is well with him. People automatically think that America is about 'freeing people'. How fucking condescending. Like America is high on the list of FREE states. Free is such a objective word. I used to be a strong supporter of the Palestinian issue until I realized people around the world aren't in a much better position. The same thing that keeps Palestinians from being represented by people that have their REAL interests in mind aren't confined to Izrahell. Something about being ruled by 'absentee owners' gets under a person's skin. Propaganda is so prevalent, the truth is almost impossible to see.
+ 1 karma Enemy of the State
every word true - I was gonna really respond but thought better of it.
and hipsterpikachu my best wishes for your innocent friend and all of the people there.
TY Ms. Nugs. I'd like to know your thoughts on the matter. It is a documented historical fact that multinationals use paramilitary groups to eradicate dissent. Globalizing profit industries doesn't even rate an intelligent response but you start talking about globalizing labor and immediately you are called a communist. Yet, how is it that although we may be worlds apart we have more in common with each other than we do the so called politicians that claim to represent us?
I quite like Israel, they are surrounded by enemies and don't take any shit, more power to them. And no, I don't care if people object to that and I'm not gunna change my mind before anyone says "Blah blah but Israel did this that and the other".
The only reason most people do 'take shit' is because they are so fucking coward and ignorant they tolerate being ass raped by people that created this system and use it as their personal gain. They are chickenshits that practice an ideology identical to Nazism except that a few key points are superficially different. There was no difference between Mein Kampf and Der Judenstaat. They are both a supremacist forms of nationalism. If the world wasn't so god damn drunk on the religious kool-aid they might take the time to notice that America is pouring BILLIONS of dollars into a extremist poltico-religious extremist group that has no regard for anyone else or 'peace' as they are led to believe. I wouldn't dream of trying to change your mind, but you sure a fuck couldn't convince me that the shit they pull makes them anything but bare boned, chicken shit cowards that hide like a bunch of bitches behind their religious zealots and cry every time someone bitch slaps them into their place. And fuck all that 'bad ass military' shit. They are pussies and the ability to kick my ass to the nth degree doesn't change the FACTS.
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Lol that little rant wont change my mind Enemy of the State. I don't really buy into your politics, sorry. ;)
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Lol that little rant wont change my mind Enemy of the State. I don't really buy into your politics, sorry. ;)
Not asking you to. 'Rant' doesn't evoke the intended response either, and 'politics' is a very subjective term that holds little weight with me. A state is a state is a state. The definition is like the proverbial asshole.......Self-determination is more appropriate and less popular.