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Title: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: JForce on July 11, 2012, 02:07 am
Hey,

Thought I'd spark this thread off as I'm sitting in my room and heard directly beneath my room is my kitchen and I've just heard some shit move.. it's probably my cat but it's still creepy.. hate this kind of stuff, yet I love to talk about it lol.

 About a year ago I was making a bacon sandwich in the kitchen and have heard a quiet tune on the piano being played (we have a piano in the conservatory which is next to the kitchen).. but there was nobody there and was also alone in the house at this point. This is the only thing I can say I've experienced that was very strange and didn't have any explanation of.. could of been my mind playing tricks on me but who knows..

Feel free to share your views on the existence of ghosts / spirits or even experiences of them..
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: BelindaCarlisle on July 11, 2012, 02:21 am
I spent a summer working in a building where the stereo volume went up and down by itself...sometimes while I was sitting next to the stereo. I never saw the knob move, but on more than one ocassion I turn the volume nearly off and a few minutes later it was LOUD. Used to freak me out. The owners just shrugged and said they were used to it.
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: blackend646 on July 11, 2012, 02:58 am
I don't think I believe in ghosts, but I'm still terrified of them
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: JForce on July 11, 2012, 12:23 pm
I spent a summer working in a building where the stereo volume went up and down by itself...sometimes while I was sitting next to the stereo. I never saw the knob move, but on more than one ocassion I turn the volume nearly off and a few minutes later it was LOUD. Used to freak me out. The owners just shrugged and said they were used to it.

Yeah that's odd, could maybe just be a faulty stereo though..

I don't think I believe in ghosts, but I'm still terrified of them

I'm skeptical aswell, if I did actually see one then I'd shit myself lol.
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: Jello on July 11, 2012, 06:09 pm
I don't believe in them, i try to take a rational approach to these things =D although i get creeped out sometimes when i hear noises and i'm by myself. Its all in my head though, yep thats what the doctors tell me.
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: turqiun on July 11, 2012, 06:24 pm
I personally want to believe in ghost and have had some experiences but I have never seen anything. I even like watching ghost adventures cause I'm a nerd like that, ghost hunters can suck a dick. Anyways I was staying at my aunt's house and I woke up twice, once on separate days at 3 in the am to these horrible crying noises outside my window. The house and neighborhood was already creepy enough and then this happens. My family told me it was cougars but it sounded human mixed with an animal voice, the scariest thing I have ever experienced.

The other thing was in the house I'm living in now. For a week straight I would hear a females voice call my name. Sometimes it would be while I'm going to sleep or while I'm watching t.v. It's been months since anything like that has happened.
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: Gary Oak on July 11, 2012, 07:20 pm
I'm afraid they'll haunt me if I say I don't believe in them. What if they hurt me?! :'(
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: moonflower on July 11, 2012, 07:30 pm
spirits are all around us, and are said by shamans to inhabit all things. ghosts are spirits caught between worlds, unable to let go of this life.
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: kryptoz on July 11, 2012, 07:54 pm
spirits are all around us, and are said by shamans to inhabit all things. ghosts are spirits caught between worlds, unable to let go of this life.

This ^^ :P
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: joe_kalius on July 11, 2012, 08:02 pm
I would like to, but remain skeptical until I've had an experience myself.

However I fuckin love those shows like Ghost hunters, Ghost Adventures, Most Haunted. lol
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: happyroller1234 on July 11, 2012, 08:05 pm
I've never had any personal experiences with seeing ghosts, but there were houses I lived in as a child where inexplicable things happened (stereos turning on in the middle of the night, doors opening then slamming, phantom feet running up the stairs at night), but I haven't really had any of these "encounters" for many years now.  Although I will say I have started to believe in another realm of spirits coexisting with us while tripping on 25i-NBOMe or sometimes a high dose of shrooms; there's that eerie feeling that you're being watched, and I often see random flashes of light which seem like other presences.  But maybe it's just the drugs.  :P
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: Ahoyhoy on July 11, 2012, 08:32 pm
If you start believing in mythologies with no empirical evidence base, then why not Santa Clause? Why not the tooth fairy?
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: vlad1m1r on July 11, 2012, 10:03 pm
Hey,

Thought I'd spark this thread off as I'm sitting in my room and heard directly beneath my room is my kitchen and I've just heard some shit move.. it's probably my cat but it's still creepy.. hate this kind of stuff, yet I love to talk about it lol.

 About a year ago I was making a bacon sandwich in the kitchen and have heard a quiet tune on the piano being played (we have a piano in the conservatory which is next to the kitchen).. but there was nobody there and was also alone in the house at this point. This is the only thing I can say I've experienced that was very strange and didn't have any explanation of.. could of been my mind playing tricks on me but who knows..

Feel free to share your views on the existence of ghosts / spirits or even experiences of them..

How better to spend the afterlife after all than to sound a chord or two as the fleshly folk chow down on a bacon sandwich? :-D

V.
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: JForce on July 14, 2012, 01:27 am
Here's an odd one for you.  I never used to believe in ghosts, and I'm still not sure if I do or not.

As I've related elsewhere, my better half is almost totally blind and relies on a guide dog. We lost her first dog suddenly -- she went into the vet for a routine examination, and ended up having to be euthanized due to advanced cancer.

We went out, and upon returning home, opening the inside porch door, for a split-second, I saw her sitting on the carpet, as big as life. My better half went without a dog for several months. During that time, at night, we would hear a thumping sound coming from the empty dog bed, like the sound a wagging tail would make. This repeated itself several times over the next few months, and stopped only when a new dog entered my partner's life.

Carbon14



That's very odd to be honest, it's almost as if the guide dog was still looking out for your partner even though it wasn't physically present but spiritually present until a new dog came along to look out for your partner and only then the dog could leave her which is very touching if true!
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: ManaFromHeaven on July 14, 2012, 04:12 am
Hello, I'd thought I'd offer my insight into this.

When I was young my father would tell me stories of spirits, witches, servents and something else.
Of plateaus, of the wait before we moved on.  I would have dreams of talking to the dead.  I would ask them to slow down because they spoke so fast.  They were so heavy too.



When I grew up, I grew up, I was taught energy is neither destroyed or created.  We are energy.  We are changed.  We never go away. I can't prove that things are this way or that beyond death.  I can't prove what I've seen.  I know that there is something unseen.  I know, that people don't disapear. Something happens, but we don't go away.  I know that there are other things out there.  Beautiful things and very dark things.  In my hallucination, that is reality, I've seen them.

Reality is what we percieve.  For some, silence is unknown.  For others, color do not exist. We assume that we our minds percieve is all that there is. I belive that our minds are not capable of expressing to our consiousnes, what is in fact reality.  All of us see in black and white.


Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: eye on July 14, 2012, 08:22 am
The only spirits I have ever come across have been in hyperspace :/. Now that you mention it I keep hearing things outside my window......I am sure I am imagining them right? right?
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: diskoking23 on July 14, 2012, 08:31 am
I often been called an 'exorcist' as I am able to clear the top shelf in a bar of spirits!! :D
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: NeuroRelativizer on July 14, 2012, 08:36 am
Reality is what we percieve.  For some, silence is unknown.  For others, color do not exist. We assume that we our minds percieve is all that there is. I belive that our minds are not capable of expressing to our consiousnes, what is in fact reality.  All of us see in black and white.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=29747.msg330571#msg330571
(from the topic)
At this point we must take an aside to consider consciousness and perception. Personally, I believe every living being has the same level of consciousness, linked to the physical world by the body and so limited by its capabilities. For instance, a fly should think like you or I but for that its brain does not support that degree of functionality.


Regarding this topic, I believe that ghosts are the impressions of people, not the people themselves. That's why, for instance, they're supposed to be tied to a building or object. A person's consciousness leaves an imprint in the energy of objects and buildings. If this imprint is strong enough, it can cause strange events interpreted as ghostly activity.
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: joe_kalius on July 14, 2012, 02:14 pm
Reality is what we percieve.  For some, silence is unknown.  For others, color do not exist. We assume that we our minds percieve is all that there is. I belive that our minds are not capable of expressing to our consiousnes, what is in fact reality.  All of us see in black and white.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=29747.msg330571#msg330571
(from the topic)
At this point we must take an aside to consider consciousness and perception. Personally, I believe every living being has the same level of consciousness, linked to the physical world by the body and so limited by its capabilities. For instance, a fly should think like you or I but for that its brain does not support that degree of functionality.


Regarding this topic, I believe that ghosts are the impressions of people, not the people themselves. That's why, for instance, they're supposed to be tied to a building or object. A person's consciousness leaves an imprint in the energy of objects and buildings. If this imprint is strong enough, it can cause strange events interpreted as ghostly activity.

my beliefs as well. I live in a VERY old house that has had a paranormal investigation but what they said sounds like horseshit to me
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 14, 2012, 02:46 pm
My beliefs in ghosts/spirits is as good as Santa claus or the tooth fairy. I`ll tell you guys what I think once I become a spirit. You`ll know its me because I`ll be nicking your bitcoins out of your wallets  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: TheBusiness on July 14, 2012, 03:03 pm
No.
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: Smaug on July 14, 2012, 04:52 pm
I very confidently do not believe in ghosts or spirits.
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: International on July 14, 2012, 06:47 pm
Would it be correct to assume that if one believes in god than one believes in spirits or ghosts?

Would it be correct to assume that there is no difference between spirits, angels, god, the devil, and all manor of supernatural beings?
Title: Re: Anyone believe in ghosts/spirits?
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 14, 2012, 07:00 pm
Would it be correct to assume that if one believes in god than one believes in spirits or ghosts?
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Most probably, if they follow the world of the bible, which mentions both. There`s also the holy spirit/ghost in Christianity, so yes most would assume so.

Would it be correct to assume that there is no difference between spirits, angels, god, the devil, and all manor of supernatural beings?

From my pov, they`re all made up images with no evidence to their existence. They all are non-existent and not part of my understanding of the world. So yes, I would say there is no difference between them. They`re all made up.