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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: Aquar1us on July 11, 2012, 01:40 am
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No offense to the creators and moderators of this awesome website, but I think that is kind of a lot of money to start a seller's account, and it really discourages people like me from wanting to create a seller's account.
I have some Adderall tabs that I want to sell. I don't have many to spare, only about ~50mg or so, but I want to list them for the main purpose of having a transaction and gaining experience in this marketplace. If my first transaction is successful, then I have other goods (adderall and marijuana) that I can sell. The cost to create a seller account is far too high for me or anybody else to be able to do this on a whim.
What is the rationale behind the high seller's account cost? Is it to keep non-legitimate accounts off of the site? Is it to avoid anti-drug organizations from saturating the market with fraudulent accounts? Is it for the founders of this website to make some money on the side? I am under the impression that this website is more about the cause and less about making a profit.
Is there any way in order to create a seller's account without having to pay the high up-front costs? Thanks in advance for answering my questions.
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140 $ isn't that much and that protect us from scammers !! If you can't afford it then wait until you have the money. Seriously established drug dealers can pay 21.16 BTC easily..
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Is it to keep non-legitimate accounts off of the site? Is it to avoid anti-drug organizations from saturating the market with fraudulent accounts?
your above statement kind of answers why sellers accounts cost money
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I know somebody selling used accounts with feedback pretty cheap. Pm me
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Also, buyers don't want to deal with fly by night operations. We like to establish a relationship with a vendor who can have enough product for repeat business. If you only have a handful of product to sell, you can't build up a reputation anyway. I believe it takes five transactions before you show a rating.
Perhaps a high risk mini-mart for small fly-by-night vendors who get occasional product and want to unload them quickly. It would have to be escrow only with no finalize early permitted under ANY circumstances.
With that sort of set up, could you even handle the cost of packaging and shipping? You won't get paid for days so you'd have to front the money for shipping and packaging.
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The admins here need to feed their drug habits as well :D
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Also, buyers don't want to deal with fly by night operations. We like to establish a relationship with a vendor who can have enough product for repeat business. If you only have a handful of product to sell, you can't build up a reputation anyway. I believe it takes five transactions before you show a rating.
Perhaps a high risk mini-mart for small fly-by-night vendors who get occasional product and want to unload them quickly. It would have to be escrow only with no finalize early permitted under ANY circumstances.
With that sort of set up, could you even handle the cost of packaging and shipping? You won't get paid for days so you'd have to front the money for shipping and packaging.
^ THIS ^ I am a weed, speed, E and sometimes other things seller IRL but selling in here is like competing with some of the biggest sellers in the world, Have you think about how much envelopes, stamps and other "things" to make your package more stealthy will cost to you, this guy is fucking right if you start asking after one month to FE to everyone trust me you will not selling for a long time here. Be professional, smart and source the best products or learn to make them yourself !!!! This is that way you will be able to stay here for 1 year like the big trusted vendors.
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Word of advice if $150 is too much, you are still in high school sir. Sell to your class mates.
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I know somebody selling used accounts with feedback pretty cheap. Pm me
can we not provide fake feedback to random new people please? i mean, i know you want to make money or whatever, but shit ... it'd be nice if you didn't compromise your fellow silkroaders while doing it. if that was just your attempt to scam the wannabe seller newb out of some btc, i'm sorry to interrupt and please continue
on topic:
if the $150 is something to even bat an eye at, not only do you not have nearly enough money to keep the proper service level of an SR vendor, but you obviously have no idea what you're attempting to get into in the first place
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if the $150 is something to even bat an eye at, not only do you not have nearly enough money to keep the proper service level of an SR vendor, but you obviously have no idea what you're attempting to get into in the first place
I could not have put it more eloquently my self.
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140 $ isn't that much and that protect us from scammers !! If you can't afford it then wait until you have the money. Seriously established drug dealers can pay 21.16 BTC easily.
Word of advice if $150 is too much, you are still in high school sir. Sell to your class mates.
I don't think you guys read my post but either way these types of responses are NOT helpful whatsoever. I was asking a question about the rationale of charging so much to become a seller, I wasn't asking to be scolded about the cost of becoming one. And yes $150 is a lot of money to become a seller, seeing as how I am used to other online selling sites where the cost is generally $0, and also that sellers are needed in order for SR to survive, but it makes sense to charge that amount if the $150 is for a reason other than the Silk Road business model, and instead is used as an additional security measure.
I know somebody selling used accounts with feedback pretty cheap. Pm me
Although your offer was tempting at first, I would rather purchase a brand new account and support SR in the process, but thank you for the offer.
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140 $ isn't that much and that protect us from scammers !! If you can't afford it then wait until you have the money. Seriously established drug dealers can pay 21.16 BTC easily.
Word of advice if $150 is too much, you are still in high school sir. Sell to your class mates.
I don't think you guys read my post but either way these types of responses are NOT helpful whatsoever. I was asking a question about the rationale of charging so much to become a seller, I wasn't asking to be scolded about the cost of becoming one. And yes $150 is a lot of money to become a seller, seeing as how I am used to other online selling sites where the cost is generally $0, and also that sellers are needed in order for SR to survive, but it makes sense to charge that amount if the $150 is for a reason other than the Silk Road business model, and instead is used as an additional security measure.
I know somebody selling used accounts with feedback pretty cheap. Pm me
Although your offer was tempting at first, I would rather purchase a brand new account and support SR in the process, but thank you for the offer.
You can do a shit load of money here, i will gave you another example as i own an eBay store and sell legal goods too. On eBay if you want to wholesale things, you have to own a store. This cost 15$ per month (for a basic one) the one i own is 50$ per month, eBay have a LOT of customers and if you find a good niche you will make money, but again on SR there is a LOT of customers, maybe not as much as eBay but this is a totally different kind of customers. Here if you source "that special drug" your customer will be back for more, this rarely happens when you sell electronics, in fact i pay like 700 $ per year to own my own store on eBay so paying 140$ on here only one time is really just a formality. And seriously don't be tempted to buy a used seller account.. I see you declined the offer of that other guy, smart choice. Oh yeah welcome to SR.
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$150 is a lot to you? Dude I go out every weekend, and in one night if I spend less than $150 that was a cheap night. You sir, are a level 1 drug user, get a real job.
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The vendor account fee was implemented as a way to cut down on scammers, and more specifically in response to a specific user who threatened to send out poison, under the guise of a legitimate substance.
At least I think that is how it went down, someone with more history on here can probably fill in the blanks. ???
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I would happily have paid $1000 for my account. Seriously $150 is nothing. The cost makes it so only serious people are getting into vending. The listings would be cluttered beyond belief if vending was a free for all.
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Is there any way in order to create a seller's account without having to pay the high up-front costs? Thanks in advance for answering my questions.
yes there is. Its called Black Market Reloaded and its located here: 5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php
Good Luck! now fuck off and learn you got to spend money to make money
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The seller`s account fee was placed to discourage scammers/people who aren`t serious from making accounts. Even with the fee (which I find really reasonable) scammers make accounts and we might see people being cheated from time to time. I guess SR isn`t for people who want to sell small amounts/or are not in the business of dealing regularly. I wouldn`t mind if the price went up, I`m thankful that the fee protects me from potential scammers.
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When I started as a vendor, the $150 fee for SR wasn't a problem. If you can swing it, you'll make it back in the first couple of days, if not a week. After a couple of sales and you get some feedback, watch it snowball!
The problems begin when it's time to cash out. Contact Limetess (a mod on here), he's pretty brilliant with finance.
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The problems begin when it's time to cash out. Contact Limetess (a mod on here), he's pretty brilliant with finance.
Could you fill me on what exactly you`re referring to by 'cashing out', I just want to make sure I understood it right.
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The problems begin when it's time to cash out. Contact Limetess (a mod on here), he's pretty brilliant with finance.
Could you fill me on what exactly you`re referring to by 'cashing out', I just want to make sure I understood it right.
Converting all your BTC to real life dollars in a safe and secure and untraceable way.
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After you sell your goods for bitcoin, the process of converting BTC to dollars is referred to as "cashing out". You'll want to get all of this figured out before vending, if possible.
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Aquar1us - Try Blackmarket Reloaded... You'll get a free account there ( http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php )
More scammers though!!
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Converting all your BTC to real life dollars in a safe and secure and untraceable way.
After you sell your goods for bitcoin, the process of converting BTC to dollars is referred to as "cashing out". You'll want to get all of this figured out before vending, if possible.
Thank you both, thats what I had figured. I guess I should get on it then.
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Agreed with ChillyP. $150 is actually ridiculously cheap to start up a seller account. I would even consider $500 on the low side.
If $150 scares you... you're in the wrong game.
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I don't think you guys read my post but either way these types of responses are NOT helpful whatsoever. I was asking a question about the rationale of charging so much to become a seller, I wasn't asking to be scolded about the cost of becoming one. And yes $150 is a lot of money to become a seller, seeing as how I am used to other online selling sites where the cost is generally $0, and also that sellers are needed in order for SR to survive, but it makes sense to charge that amount if the $150 is for a reason other than the Silk Road business model, and instead is used as an additional security measure.
Honest question: why not sell your stuff on the online selling sites where the cost is zero? If you don't want to pay $150 for a SR vendor account, there's always Topix.
If you've got regular access to decent product and you treat people honestly, you'll make that $150 back and more in no time flat.
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i think they should higher the price to $1000 a yeaR ;] a year ;]
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Personally, I think that the seller's account fee should be even higher. $150 is a fucking steal for access to the kind of customer base that there is on SR. As a side note, many newcomers don't realize just how massive this customer base actually is. Only a fraction (I would venture to say less than 20%) of users are active on the forums. The fee should probably be more in the ballpark of $500-$750.
This has already been addressed by more than one reply here, but I'll say it again. Being a vendor on SR is just like setting up and running any other kind of business. If $150 seems to you like a large sum of money to invest, then I can guarantee that your business will fail.
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I wholeheartedly agree with the 2 previous posts. You can`t peddle sticks and stones on SR, unless they`re made of gear or such...
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Honest question: why not sell your stuff on the online selling sites where the cost is zero? If you don't want to pay $150 for a SR vendor account, there's always Topix.
If you've got regular access to decent product and you treat people honestly, you'll make that $150 back and more in no time flat.
Just to put this into perspective, within five days after my first sale I had made the $150 back. I am a very, very small-time vendor: my primary goal is a steady supply of bitcoins to buy weed and nothing in the Grand Wizard's Lair sells for more than $75. I've also made enough to re-up my wares without adding in any extra cash into the equation and will be purchasing a nice fat sack on the profits within a week or so if all goes well. So for me it was definitely a sensible investment.
I hear what people are saying about a higher SR Vendor fee, and I can see some of their points. But $150 is enough to keep out most of the small-time scammers. A $500/$1000 fee wouldn't necessarily stop some of the biggest scams we've seen, but would definitely shut out a lot of honest small sellers and boutique growers.
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The possibility of being sorted for the rest of your life means that fee is extremely fair! If you're not able to pay $150 then buyers aren't going to have much confidence in you. I recommend vending under a completely different name if you are going to!
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Go check out Black Market Reloaded and see for yourself why you should have to pay for vending accounts.
drevious
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No offense to the creators and moderators of this awesome website, but I think that is kind of a lot of money to start a seller's account, and it really discourages people like me from wanting to create a seller's account.
I have some Adderall tabs that I want to sell. I don't have many to spare, only about ~50mg or so, but I want to list them for the main purpose of having a transaction and gaining experience in this marketplace. If my first transaction is successful, then I have other goods (adderall and marijuana) that I can sell. The cost to create a seller account is far too high for me or anybody else to be able to do this on a whim.
What is the rationale behind the high seller's account cost? Is it to keep non-legitimate accounts off of the site? Is it to avoid anti-drug organizations from saturating the market with fraudulent accounts? Is it for the founders of this website to make some money on the side? I am under the impression that this website is more about the cause and less about making a profit.
Is there any way in order to create a seller's account without having to pay the high up-front costs? Thanks in advance for answering my questions.
Hi Aquar1us,
Firstly - if you don't plan to make more than USD 150 from your sales, then you need a different business model!
As the previous posters have mentioned the fee creates a strong incentive for casual scammers not to open accounts - if you're in this for the long haul and are making your own product, USD 150 is a very small start up cost (indeed I work in a bank and people usually have to borrow thousands in order to start their home based businesses!).
If you're a scammer or are simply trying to resell someone else's products and acting as a middle man then you are less likely to receive an account. This increases the chance that vendors will be people offering their own product directly to buyers.
V.
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I've said this before and I'll say it again.. If you can't afford £100 for the privilege of selling here, get out the drugs game.
Simple as that
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No offense to the creators and moderators of this awesome website, but I think that is kind of a lot of money to start a seller's account, and it really discourages people like me from wanting to create a seller's account.
I have some Adderall tabs that I want to sell. I don't have many to spare, only about ~50mg or so, but I want to list them for the main purpose of having a transaction and gaining experience in this marketplace. If my first transaction is successful, then I have other goods (adderall and marijuana) that I can sell. The cost to create a seller account is far too high for me or anybody else to be able to do this on a whim.
What is the rationale behind the high seller's account cost? Is it to keep non-legitimate accounts off of the site? Is it to avoid anti-drug organizations from saturating the market with fraudulent accounts? Is it for the founders of this website to make some money on the side? I am under the impression that this website is more about the cause and less about making a profit.
Is there any way in order to create a seller's account without having to pay the high up-front costs? Thanks in advance for answering my questions.
If you don't like it jog on then. If you can't see that $140 if a drop in the ocean in comparison to what you can make then you are either ridiculously tight or blind to seeing how LOW that price is. These threads piss me the fuck off because it just shows that you no clue when it comes to investing to make a return or that you are too selfish to realize that you don't get things for free in life. Either way, it ain't good.
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I think we need to lock this thread. I mean if someone can`t run a business on here with a one time fee of 150$, they can forget about any real life applications of market/strategy.