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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: dante4u on July 08, 2012, 07:41 pm
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oad needs to start taking other forms of payments bitcoin is a pain
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No it doesn't.
Every illegal website that takes anything other than Bitcoins gets shut down very quickly or becomes fully of scammers and idiots. We have a certain level of intelligence, connoisseurship and quality here that goes hand in hand with Bitcoins.
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not really if the buyer is giveing his postal address then am sure its ok for the seller to give bank details for payment
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i understand the part about scammers but if you look at say topix that site has not been shut down am just saying sr needs to let sellers other ways to get payment
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Actually, it did used to take different forms of payment last year!! - If you look at how the Farmers Market was taken down, you'll find it was because of WU transfers! Bitcoin is the safest method!!
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am sure if the cops wanted to they could shut this place down look at topix selling out in the open but no1 cares
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oscar is full of shit as usual, vendors have been accepting pecunix, lr, cash in mail and more forever. but i would never accept anything but bitcoin on a public site, or from somebody who i met on a public site
Actually, it did used to take different forms of payment last year!! - If you look at how the Farmers Market was taken down, you'll find it was because of WU transfers! Bitcoin is the safest method!!
tfm went down because several vendors' workers used hushmail, which turned over emails containing addresses to the feds
thats my whole point address are being sent so whats the problem with say bank tranfers
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oad needs to start taking other forms of payments bitcoin is a pain
Hi dante4u,
It can be a bit daunting at first but it actually is very easy to do. I offer a service myself selling Bitcoins for cash in the mail - you can also buy Bitcoins by bank transfer although I wouldn't recommend it as it can compromise your identity.
I think the strength of the Bitcoin is to do with the fact it is anonymous - imagine if for instance we started sending each other Western Union transfers which require ID to collect and to send in some instances and at the very least require you to go somewhere which may have security cameras in order to send/receive money. This wouldn't be nearly as safe.
V.
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Sorry Shannon... It was MIN that got taken down by WU... The point is still valid though!!
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oscar is full of shit as usual, vendors have been accepting pecunix, lr, cash in mail and more forever. but i would never accept anything but bitcoin on a public site, or from somebody who i met on a public site
Actually, it did used to take different forms of payment last year!! - If you look at how the Farmers Market was taken down, you'll find it was because of WU transfers! Bitcoin is the safest method!!
tfm went down because several vendors' workers used hushmail, which turned over emails containing addresses to the feds
thats my whole point address are being sent so whats the problem with say bank tranfers
The problem with bank transfers is that you and the vendor would have used photo ID to open said bank accounts therefore it would be obvious to any fool with access to the bank records that you had engaged in business with them. An undercover Police officer could easily find out a vendor's identity this way. Conversely you don't need to know someone's real identity to send them Bitcoins, surely you see the advantage?
V.
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oad needs to start taking other forms of payments bitcoin is a pain
Hi dante4u,
It can be a bit daunting at first but it actually is very easy to do. I offer a service myself selling Bitcoins for cash in the mail - you can also buy Bitcoins by bank transfer although I wouldn't recommend it as it can compromise your identity.
I think the strength of the Bitcoin is to do with the fact it is anonymous - imagine if for instance we started sending each other Western Union transfers which require ID to collect and to send in some instances and at the very least require you to go somewhere which may have security cameras in order to send/receive money. This wouldn't be nearly as safe.
V.
am a seller its just that bitcoins look like it take for ever to cash out
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am sure if the cops wanted to they could shut this place down look at topix selling out in the open but no1 cares
I don't think the cops could shut it down as it's a Tor hidden service:
https://www.torproject.org/docs/hidden-services.html.en
The hacking group Anonymous was able to shut down some hidden services through a DOS attack against the server's hosting them but I imagine the sites admins have made provision for this - perhaps our more technically gifted users could enlighten us?
V.
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oad needs to start taking other forms of payments bitcoin is a pain
Hi dante4u,
It can be a bit daunting at first but it actually is very easy to do. I offer a service myself selling Bitcoins for cash in the mail - you can also buy Bitcoins by bank transfer although I wouldn't recommend it as it can compromise your identity.
I think the strength of the Bitcoin is to do with the fact it is anonymous - imagine if for instance we started sending each other Western Union transfers which require ID to collect and to send in some instances and at the very least require you to go somewhere which may have security cameras in order to send/receive money. This wouldn't be nearly as safe.
V.
am a seller its just that bitcoins look like it take for ever to cash out
Are you referring to the escrow system or the time it takes for exchanges to make deposits into your bank account? I offer a BTC to cash service also to some vendors and send them cash in the mail once a week - if you wanted to cash out faster than that you could use a service like Coinzbul and have precious metals shipped to you I suppose.
V.
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oscar is full of shit as usual, vendors have been accepting pecunix, lr, cash in mail and more forever. but i would never accept anything but bitcoin on a public site, or from somebody who i met on a public site
Actually, it did used to take different forms of payment last year!! - If you look at how the Farmers Market was taken down, you'll find it was because of WU transfers! Bitcoin is the safest method!!
tfm went down because several vendors' workers used hushmail, which turned over emails containing addresses to the feds
thats my whole point address are being sent so whats the problem with say bank tranfers
The problem with bank transfers is that you and the vendor would have used photo ID to open said bank accounts therefore it would be obvious to any fool with access to the bank records that you had engaged in business with them. An undercover Police officer could easily find out a vendor's identity this way. Conversely you don't need to know someone's real identity to send them Bitcoins, surely you see the advantage?
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sure i can but all am saying is sr should allow other payments like bank transfer and bank accounts are easy to get hold of plus the police could just follow the address where the order has been sent to no such thing as 100% safe
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oad needs to start taking other forms of payments bitcoin is a pain
Hi dante4u,
It can be a bit daunting at first but it actually is very easy to do. I offer a service myself selling Bitcoins for cash in the mail - you can also buy Bitcoins by bank transfer although I wouldn't recommend it as it can compromise your identity.
I think the strength of the Bitcoin is to do with the fact it is anonymous - imagine if for instance we started sending each other Western Union transfers which require ID to collect and to send in some instances and at the very least require you to go somewhere which may have security cameras in order to send/receive money. This wouldn't be nearly as safe.
V.
am a seller its just that bitcoins look like it take for ever to cash out
Are you referring to the escrow system or the time it takes for exchanges to make deposits into your bank account? I offer a BTC to cash service also to some vendors and send them cash in the mail once a week - if you wanted to cash out faster than that you could use a service like Coinzbul and have precious metals shipped to you I suppose.
V.
it looks like it takes forever to turn bitcoin into cash
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oscar is full of shit as usual, vendors have been accepting pecunix, lr, cash in mail and more forever. but i would never accept anything but bitcoin on a public site, or from somebody who i met on a public site
Actually, it did used to take different forms of payment last year!! - If you look at how the Farmers Market was taken down, you'll find it was because of WU transfers! Bitcoin is the safest method!!
tfm went down because several vendors' workers used hushmail, which turned over emails containing addresses to the feds
thats my whole point address are being sent so whats the problem with say bank tranfers
The problem with bank transfers is that you and the vendor would have used photo ID to open said bank accounts therefore it would be obvious to any fool with access to the bank records that you had engaged in business with them. An undercover Police officer could easily find out a vendor's identity this way. Conversely you don't need to know someone's real identity to send them Bitcoins, surely you see the advantage?
V.
sure i can but all am saying is sr should allow other payments like bank transfer and bank accounts are easy to get hold of plus the police could just follow the address where the order has been sent to no such thing as 100% safe
But if you're a vendor how could the Police follow the goods you send back to you? Surely they'd only know the buyer's address?
Or perhaps you're referring to the fact that a vendor would have to give out their address in order to get cash in the mail? You can get around that problem by tumbling your coins and sending them to a new SR account - the BTC trader will have no idea which seller you are!
V.
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oad needs to start taking other forms of payments bitcoin is a pain
Hi dante4u,
It can be a bit daunting at first but it actually is very easy to do. I offer a service myself selling Bitcoins for cash in the mail - you can also buy Bitcoins by bank transfer although I wouldn't recommend it as it can compromise your identity.
I think the strength of the Bitcoin is to do with the fact it is anonymous - imagine if for instance we started sending each other Western Union transfers which require ID to collect and to send in some instances and at the very least require you to go somewhere which may have security cameras in order to send/receive money. This wouldn't be nearly as safe.
V.
am a seller its just that bitcoins look like it take for ever to cash out
Are you referring to the escrow system or the time it takes for exchanges to make deposits into your bank account? I offer a BTC to cash service also to some vendors and send them cash in the mail once a week - if you wanted to cash out faster than that you could use a service like Coinzbul and have precious metals shipped to you I suppose.
V.
it looks like it takes forever to turn bitcoin into cash
I admit it would be faster to transfer your coins to a Bitcoin exchange, sell them and wire them to your own bank account but it wouldn't be nearly as safe as receiving cash in the mail - this can be to any postal address, a post office, a hotel, a trusted friend, the list goes on!
I currently process around EUR 1200 of orders a month, if you need a quick and reliable way to cash out, feel free to send me a message I'll explain how my service works - I know this is a frustrating process but it's the best way to protect your safety and that of your customers.
V.
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oad needs to start taking other forms of payments bitcoin is a pain
Hi dante4u,
It can be a bit daunting at first but it actually is very easy to do. I offer a service myself selling Bitcoins for cash in the mail - you can also buy Bitcoins by bank transfer although I wouldn't recommend it as it can compromise your identity.
I think the strength of the Bitcoin is to do with the fact it is anonymous - imagine if for instance we started sending each other Western Union transfers which require ID to collect and to send in some instances and at the very least require you to go somewhere which may have security cameras in order to send/receive money. This wouldn't be nearly as safe.
V.
am a seller its just that bitcoins look like it take for ever to cash out
Are you referring to the escrow system or the time it takes for exchanges to make deposits into your bank account? I offer a BTC to cash service also to some vendors and send them cash in the mail once a week - if you wanted to cash out faster than that you could use a service like Coinzbul and have precious metals shipped to you I suppose.
V.
it looks like it takes forever to turn bitcoin into cash
I admit it would be faster to transfer your coins to a Bitcoin exchange, sell them and wire them to your own bank account but it wouldn't be nearly as safe as receiving cash in the mail - this can be to any postal address, a post office, a hotel, a trusted friend, the list goes on!
I currently process around EUR 1200 of orders a month, if you need a quick and reliable way to cash out, feel free to send me a message I'll explain how my service works - I know this is a frustrating process but it's the best way to protect your safety and that of your customers.
V.
thanks for the help i think i will use is that the max you cash 1500 a month?
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oad needs to start taking other forms of payments bitcoin is a pain
Hi dante4u,
It can be a bit daunting at first but it actually is very easy to do. I offer a service myself selling Bitcoins for cash in the mail - you can also buy Bitcoins by bank transfer although I wouldn't recommend it as it can compromise your identity.
I think the strength of the Bitcoin is to do with the fact it is anonymous - imagine if for instance we started sending each other Western Union transfers which require ID to collect and to send in some instances and at the very least require you to go somewhere which may have security cameras in order to send/receive money. This wouldn't be nearly as safe.
V.
am a seller its just that bitcoins look like it take for ever to cash out
Are you referring to the escrow system or the time it takes for exchanges to make deposits into your bank account? I offer a BTC to cash service also to some vendors and send them cash in the mail once a week - if you wanted to cash out faster than that you could use a service like Coinzbul and have precious metals shipped to you I suppose.
V.
it looks like it takes forever to turn bitcoin into cash
I admit it would be faster to transfer your coins to a Bitcoin exchange, sell them and wire them to your own bank account but it wouldn't be nearly as safe as receiving cash in the mail - this can be to any postal address, a post office, a hotel, a trusted friend, the list goes on!
I currently process around EUR 1200 of orders a month, if you need a quick and reliable way to cash out, feel free to send me a message I'll explain how my service works - I know this is a frustrating process but it's the best way to protect your safety and that of your customers.
V.
thanks for the help i think i will use is that the max you cash 1500 a month?
Sent you a message buddy.
V.
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I don't think the cops could shut it down as it's a Tor hidden service:
https://www.torproject.org/docs/hidden-services.html.en
The hacking group Anonymous was able to shut down some hidden services through a DOS attack against the server's hosting them but I imagine the sites admins have made provision for this - perhaps our more technically gifted users could enlighten us?
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if the fbi weren't such incompetent fucks they could locate sr's hidden service in a month or so with a couple thousand dollars worth of servers
i've gotten sooooo close myself, i found out some tor config info about the dkn255hz262ypmii.onion hidden service but it grabbed new entry guards before i could knock off the ones i found :(
It's a good thing the FBI don't have you on side then! What would the outcome be then if the server's location were discovered? Presumably DPR's bought his web space anonymously and has a mirror version of the site - or would the whole house of cards come tumbling down? They've had a year now...
V.
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I don't think the cops could shut it down as it's a Tor hidden service:
https://www.torproject.org/docs/hidden-services.html.en
The hacking group Anonymous was able to shut down some hidden services through a DOS attack against the server's hosting them but I imagine the sites admins have made provision for this - perhaps our more technically gifted users could enlighten us?
V.
if the fbi weren't such incompetent fucks they could locate sr's hidden service in a month or so with a couple thousand dollars worth of servers
i've gotten sooooo close myself, i found out some tor config info about the dkn255hz262ypmii.onion hidden service but it grabbed new entry guards before i could knock off the ones i found :(
It's a good thing the FBI don't have you on side then! What would the outcome be then if the server's location were discovered? Presumably DPR's bought his web space anonymously and has a mirror version of the site - or would the whole house of cards come tumbling down? They've had a year now...
V.
if u sent me a private message i not got it
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I don't think the cops could shut it down as it's a Tor hidden service:
https://www.torproject.org/docs/hidden-services.html.en
The hacking group Anonymous was able to shut down some hidden services through a DOS attack against the server's hosting them but I imagine the sites admins have made provision for this - perhaps our more technically gifted users could enlighten us?
V.
if the fbi weren't such incompetent fucks they could locate sr's hidden service in a month or so with a couple thousand dollars worth of servers
i've gotten sooooo close myself, i found out some tor config info about the dkn255hz262ypmii.onion hidden service but it grabbed new entry guards before i could knock off the ones i found :(
It's a good thing the FBI don't have you on side then! What would the outcome be then if the server's location were discovered? Presumably DPR's bought his web space anonymously and has a mirror version of the site - or would the whole house of cards come tumbling down? They've had a year now...
V.
if u sent me a private message i not got it
Just re-sent buddy.
V.
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vlad1m1r i see the most likely route of attack as pwning the server (easy work if you have the right people) then stealing the database with unencrypted addresses, harvesting addresses as orders are made, or possibly stealing the .onion private keys and setting up their own honeypot silkroadvb5piz3r.onion. the way hidden services work is that the service that announces latest wins the netsplit, so it's easy for an attacker who owns the .onion keys to significantly disrupt the real site's operations or to masquerade as the real site for a majority of any time period
admin if you're reading this good job on using persistent guard nodes in your config, if i was a fed and if you didn't have that flag on your ass would be grass :)
I see, scary stuff! I imagine we can mitigate the risk at present by using GPG to encrypt all addresses - let's also hope this forum isn't located on the same server too!
If this happened I imagine DPR would be obliged to set up an entirely new hidden service - though I suppose there might be some difficulty convincing others to switch from the former site?
V.
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oad needs to start taking other forms of payments bitcoin is a pain
So an entire established community has to change in order to cater to you? Get over yourself dude.
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oad needs to start taking other forms of payments bitcoin is a pain
So an entire established community has to change in order to cater to you? Get over yourself dude.
end of the day i know am not the only 1 here who wants other payment options i can beat any of the sellers on that site by price
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oscar is full of shit as usual, vendors have been accepting pecunix, lr, cash in mail and more forever. but i would never accept anything but bitcoin on a public site, or from somebody who i met on a public site
Polite and coherent as usual Shannon... ::)
There's nothing to worry about if you're selling Bitcoins, you can accept any form of currency as you're not breaking any laws, but when directly purchasing drugs using anything other than Bitcoins is rather dumb, especially in large amounts and/or across international borders.
There's been so many darknet sites shut down because they used Western Union, the hassle of Bitcoins (which is only a hassle if you aren't I.T. literate) is worth the anonymity. The OP is suggesting that sacrificing anonymity for ease of use would be a good thing, which clearly it isn't. Loose lips sink ships.
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when directly purchasing drugs using anything other than Bitcoins is rather dumb, especially in large amounts and/or across international borders.
tell that to any bulk vendor, especially the bulk NL vendors, they all accept only cash in mail. this is because cashing out $100k in bitcoins or pecunix is a pain in the ass, and if you trust a customer enough to send them $100k worth of drugs, why wouldn't you trust them to send $100k cash to you?
There's been so many darknet sites shut down because they used Western Union
name one, actually don't bother, there aren't any
if the cops wanted to shut this place down they would they have millions and all the time in the world nothing is 100% safe
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My thoughts are that this system works just fine for everyone involved. If some vendors or buyers are unhappy with the methods involved in using Silk Road, then they should (and probably already are) sell their goods through other avenues. I mean, it's a pain, yes, but it's the price you pay for enhanced anonymity on the financial side of this service, and it's not *that* much of a pain once you get your payment system worked out.
Nothing is 100% safe and secure, but that's not really a good excuse to add a level of insecurity to the process.
I say--Don't try to fix it if it ain't broke.
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In answer to the OP's statement title.
SR does not need to start taking other forms of payment because none of us want to go to prison. End of discussion lol.
Idiot.
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In answer to the OP's statement title.
SR does not need to start taking other forms of payment because none of us want to go to prison. End of discussion lol.
Idiot.
Straight and to the point. Perfect.
Makes my post look timid... ;)
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In answer to the OP's statement title.
SR does not need to start taking other forms of payment because none of us want to go to prison. End of discussion lol.
Idiot.
Thank you for the voice of reason. OP, if you find btc to be such a pain in the ass then I suggest you skip on over to Topix and conduct your business there, nobody is forcing you to be here. Some of us like the security and anonymity of the whole package SR offers.
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In answer to the OP's statement title.
SR does not need to start taking other forms of payment because none of us want to go to prison. End of discussion lol.
Idiot.
thanks Lim, that was the response in my mind when this first popped up but my mind was already numb from all the other useless bullshit posts that went up that day so I just rode right by this one...
yall are lucky Lim is such a pushover... I would lock all these stupid fuckin threads the second they pop up and create a 'recycle bin' thread to dump them into.
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If you want to give away your identity bro, feel free, go right ahead, no really, do it lame-o, I'm waiting. ::)
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If you want to give away your identity bro, feel free, go right ahead, no really, do it lame-o, I'm waiting. ::)
No shit, lol. Topix, really? Topix is for amateurs.
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Believe me if I unleashed the beast on everything I'd end up throwing my Mac at the first person who walked by in the street. And you can't lock everything....not democratic. I can say what I think though because everyone can have their say.....always love being democratic. ;)
But yeah OP, here is some basic algebra that I learned quite fast when I started dealing drugs and doing illegal shit for cash, it may help you -
Profit = Illegal action + risk - risk-minimization. Risk minimization = risk x square route of not being retarded. Prison = Risk-minimization - Shit going tits up.
Asking for payments other than BitCoins is not compatible with any of those equations and therefore they are not compatible with anyone seeing a business with any longevity.
That is all.
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Believe me if I unleashed the beast on everything I'd end up throwing my Mac at the first person who walked by in the street. And you can't lock everything....not democratic. I can say what I think though because everyone can have their say.....always love being democratic. ;)
But yeah OP, here is some basic algebra that I learned quite fast when I started dealing drugs and doing illegal shit for cash, it may help you -
Profit = Illegal action + risk - risk-minimization. Risk minimization = risk x square route of not being retarded. Prison = Risk-minimization - Shit going tits up.
Asking for payments other than BitCoins is not compatible with any of those equations and therefore they are not compatible with anyone seeing a business with any longevity.
That is all.
Love ya Lim... and not in a gay way... lol
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Believe me if I unleashed the beast on everything I'd end up throwing my Mac at the first person who walked by in the street. And you can't lock everything....not democratic. I can say what I think though because everyone can have their say.....always love being democratic. ;)
But yeah OP, here is some basic algebra that I learned quite fast when I started dealing drugs and doing illegal shit for cash, it may help you -
Profit = Illegal action + risk - risk-minimization. Risk minimization = risk x square route of not being retarded. Prison = Risk-minimization - Shit going tits up.
Asking for payments other than BitCoins is not compatible with any of those equations and therefore they are not compatible with anyone seeing a business with any longevity.
That is all.
am not telling you to use other payments apart from bitcoin am saying sr could offer sellers other ways to get paid nothing wroug in that dont see how you could go to prison if other sellers took payments apart from bitcoin
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this is exactly why this thread needs to be locked, because this simpleton is going to keep up his mantra of alternate payment till someone decides to oblige him and ends up doing time.
Silk Road is a darknet site that takes BTC!!!!! ONLY!!! get over it!!!!
Your continued harping over taking other payment just makes me think your a cop.
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Believe me if I unleashed the beast on everything I'd end up throwing my Mac at the first person who walked by in the street. And you can't lock everything....not democratic. I can say what I think though because everyone can have their say.....always love being democratic. ;)
But yeah OP, here is some basic algebra that I learned quite fast when I started dealing drugs and doing illegal shit for cash, it may help you -
Profit = Illegal action + risk - risk-minimization. Risk minimization = risk x square route of not being retarded. Prison = Risk-minimization - Shit going tits up.
Asking for payments other than BitCoins is not compatible with any of those equations and therefore they are not compatible with anyone seeing a business with any longevity.
That is all.
am not telling you to use other payments apart from bitcoin am saying sr could offer sellers other ways to get paid nothing wroug in that dont see how you could go to prison if other sellers took payments apart from bitcoin
Really? You really think that DPR and co should allow another payment method on SR when pretty much every other payment method is infinitely easier to trace back to the seller and would thus be easier to take the site down? Is that REALLY what you are trying to say to me because only 5-O would suggest such a thing unless you are insanely uninformed. ANY other payment method would allow the tracing of those that receive it. You can trace people through BTC if you try hard enough and people don't use it properly.
If you are some sort of Pork Product then you are a pretty shit one if I'm gunna be straight with you. I mean come the fuck on, how dumb do you think we are? If you aren't a Pork Product then I think it would be best you do a bit of background reading before you express your opinions on how to improve SR because you don't have the right facts to hand. Do you not think that BTC is the sole form of payment for a reason or just because DPR + co think it's super-duper fun that way? If you do then it's a case of no-dice I'm afraid it's security.
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yeah, we should start doing bank transfers instead.
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Believe me if I unleashed the beast on everything I'd end up throwing my Mac at the first person who walked by in the street. And you can't lock everything....not democratic. I can say what I think though because everyone can have their say.....always love being democratic. ;)
But yeah OP, here is some basic algebra that I learned quite fast when I started dealing drugs and doing illegal shit for cash, it may help you -
Profit = Illegal action + risk - risk-minimization. Risk minimization = risk x square route of not being retarded. Prison = Risk-minimization - Shit going tits up.
Asking for payments other than BitCoins is not compatible with any of those equations and therefore they are not compatible with anyone seeing a business with any longevity.
That is all.
am not telling you to use other payments apart from bitcoin am saying sr could offer sellers other ways to get paid nothing wroug in that dont see how you could go to prison if other sellers took payments apart from bitcoin
Really? You really think that DPR and co should allow another payment method on SR when pretty much every other payment method is infinitely easier to trace back to the seller and would thus be easier to take the site down? Is that REALLY what you are trying to say to me because only 5-O would suggest such a thing unless you are insanely uninformed. ANY other payment method would allow the tracing of those that receive it. You can trace people through BTC if you try hard enough and people don't use it properly.
If you are some sort of Pork Product then you are a pretty shit one if I'm gunna be straight with you. I mean come the fuck on, how dumb do you think we are? If you aren't a Pork Product then I think it would be best you do a bit of background reading before you express your opinions on how to improve SR because you don't have the right facts to hand. Do you not think that BTC is the sole form of payment for a reason or just because DPR + co think it's super-duper fun that way? If you do then it's a case of no-dice I'm afraid it's security.
lol now am a cop you know how easy it is to open a bank account and get a debit card with false details if the cops really wanted to shut this place down they would
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Believe me if I unleashed the beast on everything I'd end up throwing my Mac at the first person who walked by in the street. And you can't lock everything....not democratic. I can say what I think though because everyone can have their say.....always love being democratic. ;)
But yeah OP, here is some basic algebra that I learned quite fast when I started dealing drugs and doing illegal shit for cash, it may help you -
Profit = Illegal action + risk - risk-minimization. Risk minimization = risk x square route of not being retarded. Prison = Risk-minimization - Shit going tits up.
Asking for payments other than BitCoins is not compatible with any of those equations and therefore they are not compatible with anyone seeing a business with any longevity.
That is all.
am not telling you to use other payments apart from bitcoin am saying sr could offer sellers other ways to get paid nothing wroug in that dont see how you could go to prison if other sellers took payments apart from bitcoin
Really? You really think that DPR and co should allow another payment method on SR when pretty much every other payment method is infinitely easier to trace back to the seller and would thus be easier to take the site down? Is that REALLY what you are trying to say to me because only 5-O would suggest such a thing unless you are insanely uninformed. ANY other payment method would allow the tracing of those that receive it. You can trace people through BTC if you try hard enough and people don't use it properly.
If you are some sort of Pork Product then you are a pretty shit one if I'm gunna be straight with you. I mean come the fuck on, how dumb do you think we are? If you aren't a Pork Product then I think it would be best you do a bit of background reading before you express your opinions on how to improve SR because you don't have the right facts to hand. Do you not think that BTC is the sole form of payment for a reason or just because DPR + co think it's super-duper fun that way? If you do then it's a case of no-dice I'm afraid it's security.
am going to start selling on sr soon if i was a cop i could not do that
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Believe me if I unleashed the beast on everything I'd end up throwing my Mac at the first person who walked by in the street. And you can't lock everything....not democratic. I can say what I think though because everyone can have their say.....always love being democratic. ;)
But yeah OP, here is some basic algebra that I learned quite fast when I started dealing drugs and doing illegal shit for cash, it may help you -
Profit = Illegal action + risk - risk-minimization. Risk minimization = risk x square route of not being retarded. Prison = Risk-minimization - Shit going tits up.
Asking for payments other than BitCoins is not compatible with any of those equations and therefore they are not compatible with anyone seeing a business with any longevity.
That is all.
am not telling you to use other payments apart from bitcoin am saying sr could offer sellers other ways to get paid nothing wroug in that dont see how you could go to prison if other sellers took payments apart from bitcoin
Really? You really think that DPR and co should allow another payment method on SR when pretty much every other payment method is infinitely easier to trace back to the seller and would thus be easier to take the site down? Is that REALLY what you are trying to say to me because only 5-O would suggest such a thing unless you are insanely uninformed. ANY other payment method would allow the tracing of those that receive it. You can trace people through BTC if you try hard enough and people don't use it properly.
If you are some sort of Pork Product then you are a pretty shit one if I'm gunna be straight with you. I mean come the fuck on, how dumb do you think we are? If you aren't a Pork Product then I think it would be best you do a bit of background reading before you express your opinions on how to improve SR because you don't have the right facts to hand. Do you not think that BTC is the sole form of payment for a reason or just because DPR + co think it's super-duper fun that way? If you do then it's a case of no-dice I'm afraid it's security.
lol now am a cop you know how easy it is to open a bank account and get a debit card with false details if the cops really wanted to shut this place down they would
Yes I do actually, I do a lot of work in finance so I know full well. It's not the opening of said accounts it's getting that information in the first place that can be used over a long period of time to do this.
Anyway you a clearly trolling so I do believe it's come to that time where this thread does need to get locked. I hope you have had fun, a good effort I must say.
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Also funny how you just altered your last post OP. Smooth.
For anyone who wants to read what the original content was you can see it in my quote in the above post. ^^^
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Believe me if I unleashed the beast on everything I'd end up throwing my Mac at the first person who walked by in the street. And you can't lock everything....not democratic. I can say what I think though because everyone can have their say.....always love being democratic. ;)
But yeah OP, here is some basic algebra that I learned quite fast when I started dealing drugs and doing illegal shit for cash, it may help you -
Profit = Illegal action + risk - risk-minimization. Risk minimization = risk x square route of not being retarded. Prison = Risk-minimization - Shit going tits up.
Asking for payments other than BitCoins is not compatible with any of those equations and therefore they are not compatible with anyone seeing a business with any longevity.
That is all.
am not telling you to use other payments apart from bitcoin am saying sr could offer sellers other ways to get paid nothing wroug in that dont see how you could go to prison if other sellers took payments apart from bitcoin
Really? You really think that DPR and co should allow another payment method on SR when pretty much every other payment method is infinitely easier to trace back to the seller and would thus be easier to take the site down? Is that REALLY what you are trying to say to me because only 5-O would suggest such a thing unless you are insanely uninformed. ANY other payment method would allow the tracing of those that receive it. You can trace people through BTC if you try hard enough and people don't use it properly.
If you are some sort of Pork Product then you are a pretty shit one if I'm gunna be straight with you. I mean come the fuck on, how dumb do you think we are? If you aren't a Pork Product then I think it would be best you do a bit of background reading before you express your opinions on how to improve SR because you don't have the right facts to hand. Do you not think that BTC is the sole form of payment for a reason or just because DPR + co think it's super-duper fun that way? If you do then it's a case of no-dice I'm afraid it's security.
am going to start selling on sr soon if i was a cop i could not do that
Wrong again, LE can do controlled sales and they do it all the time, they just need authorization to do so. Come on mate, you need to seriously sharpen up if you intend to sell here.