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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: zant on June 19, 2012, 11:25 am

Title: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: zant on June 19, 2012, 11:25 am
Hi I'm new here but I'll keep it short.

I have an idea for a Tor based service but I don't possess the necessary skills to develop it myself.

I can create basic html, css based websites on tor hosted by freedom hosting which is good for a small site (Few pages etc) but doesn't have the features I require such as Escrow, accounts, feedback system etc.

As I don't have the skills myself but the capital I'm wanting to hire someone to do the work for me. You will be paid anonymously in bitcoins for this project and the work will be ongoing.

I will need to see a list of your skills and a resume of your work to hire the right person.

my contact email is

zant@tormail.org

Contact me to discuss what exactly I want to construct as the concept is simple but the execution might be difficult.

Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

-Zant
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: kmfkewm on June 19, 2012, 11:33 am
Let me guess, you want to compete with SR but have no idea how to program such a site?
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: zant on June 19, 2012, 11:35 am
Let me guess, you want to compete with SR but have no idea how to program such a site?

I won't compete with the silk road and at this stage it's almost impossible to as Silk road and the second largest online drug market is Black market reloaded which is tiny in comparison.
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: Raoul Duke on June 19, 2012, 12:26 pm
so if you require escrow and a feedback system what will the site be for? pretty much the only things SR doesn't sell is CP, assassinations and basically anything that purposely harms other people.

i think if you elaborate more you'll get more interest.

no offence intended but you stink of bacon to me
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: zant on June 19, 2012, 12:30 pm
so if you require escrow and a feedback system what will the site be for? pretty much the only things SR doesn't sell is CP, assassinations and basically anything that purposely harms other people.

i think if you elaborate more you'll get more interest.

no offence intended but you stink of bacon to me

Stink of bacon as in I smell like a cop to you? believe me I'm not involved in any police enforcement of any kind. I'm just a guy with an idea and money searching for someone who will be willing to code the site. As controversial as it is I'd like to sell items that the silk road doesn't allow yes.

It is difficult to find someone and I will only be interacting with them via email and paying them in bitcoins I will not risk a face to face interaction besides we're probably in completely different countries.
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: Raoul Duke on June 19, 2012, 12:36 pm
yeah i said that because you're asking for a resume. regardless of names on it or not - if someone says 'yes i did this site and that site' it's not difficult contacting the site owners to ask who did it, especially for LE. so it looks pretty difficult to explain how good you are at these things and stay anonymous at the same time.

good luck in your venture but i don't think you're going to get anyone so unscrupulous as to knock up a website for assassinations / CP here - most of us use this site, amongst other more obvious things of course, because those things aren't allowed so we don't have to put up with pedos and the like.

even junkies have morals - who'd have thought? ;)
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: zant on June 19, 2012, 12:46 pm
yeah i said that because you're asking for a resume. regardless of names on it or not - if someone says 'yes i did this site and that site' it's not difficult contacting the site owners to ask who did it, especially for LE. so it looks pretty difficult to explain how good you are at these things and stay anonymous at the same time.

good luck in your venture but i don't think you're going to get anyone so unscrupulous as to knock up a website for assassinations / CP here - most of us use this site, amongst other more obvious things of course, because those things aren't allowed so we don't have to put up with pedos and the like.

even junkies have morals - who'd have thought? ;)

With the Resume I just want that for your skills. Portfolio etc is all apart of that. Since I can already code basic websites css/html and some php I'm looking for a more experienced coder to developer the site. They will be fully paid for their work.

Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: yournamehere on June 19, 2012, 01:47 pm
Your idea may be good, but its going to be hard for anyone to trust you.

This probably isn't a good place to recruit coders
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: zant on June 19, 2012, 02:07 pm
Your idea may be good, but its going to be hard for anyone to trust you.

This probably isn't a good place to recruit coders

Where would you suggest I go to recruit people? It's difficult to find someone who fully understands the tor network and hosting a complex site on there.
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: danknugsdun on June 19, 2012, 02:16 pm
HackBB
HackForums

It's not hard to do some basic research.

Dank
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: vlad1m1r on June 19, 2012, 07:50 pm
Your idea may be good, but its going to be hard for anyone to trust you.

This probably isn't a good place to recruit coders

Where would you suggest I go to recruit people? It's difficult to find someone who fully understands the tor network and hosting a complex site on there.

I don't think you're Law Enforcement mate, they'd wait until they'd been on here for a while before making tentative inquiries to avoid the kind of reaction you've received already! Where are you planning on hosting this site?

V.
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: oscarzululondon on June 19, 2012, 09:17 pm
I don't think you're Law Enforcement mate, they'd wait until they'd been on here for a while before making tentative inquiries to avoid the kind of reaction you've received already! Where are you planning on hosting this site?

V.

From one of your new Android tablets you'll be selling soon  ;D
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: vlad1m1r on June 19, 2012, 11:22 pm
I don't think you're Law Enforcement mate, they'd wait until they'd been on here for a while before making tentative inquiries to avoid the kind of reaction you've received already! Where are you planning on hosting this site?

V.

From one of your new Android tablets you'll be selling soon  ;D

Amen to that OZ!

V.
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: zant on June 21, 2012, 09:17 am
HackBB
HackForums

It's not hard to do some basic research.

Dank

I posted on HackBB I don't know the address on HackForums.

It's difficult to find someone with the right skills I require but whoever they are they have the potential to make some serious dough.

And Not to scam anyone but I pay as per feature basis so every section of the website built will be paid for in sections and review (This is to avoid scams)

I'm still searching for someone.
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: zant on June 22, 2012, 01:16 am
Still looking. One email so far :(

Someone with the coding skills can make some good money from this.
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: kmfkewm on June 22, 2012, 09:11 am
The thing is if they can make good money from it why the fuck would they not just do it themselves?
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: zant on June 22, 2012, 10:44 am
The thing is if they can make good money from it why the fuck would they not just do it themselves?

Good point. Why isn't there more escrow type sites out there similar to silk road and black market reloaded? Because pulling it off is very difficult.
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: zingzong on June 22, 2012, 12:24 pm
The thing is if they can make good money from it why the fuck would they not just do it themselves?

Good point. Why isn't there more escrow type sites out there similar to silk road and black market reloaded? Because pulling it off is very difficult.

backopy was considering selling the BMR engine. he's currently tied up in creating a the BMX marketplace though. i dont doubt his coding abilities. i don't believe SRs code is as safe as youd hope as a user. i recall the hidden ids being linked back to a simple encryption of an id without salt and substred and recently some errors were displayed on the frontend.

not trying to knock the admins - i dont believe its an easy feat but these leaks open doors to exploits. the framework the mainsite runs on is obvious to anyone who is familiar enough with php. if an exploit is found in say the database library for example, that could be a major issue.

ill give the obvious advice, be sure to encrypt your messages and use other practical safety precautions, don't rely purely on the site for security.
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: Banjo on June 22, 2012, 04:42 pm
I'm a great programmer. But there's no way I'd 1.) Let you see my resume, 2.) Let you see my portfolio, or 3.) Help you sell things like CP or assassinations or hacking
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: Raoul Duke on June 22, 2012, 05:49 pm
I'm a great programmer. But there's no way I'd 1.) Let you see my resume, 2.) Let you see my portfolio, or 3.) Help you sell things like CP or assassinations or hacking

Nice one. I'm +ing you for proving the point I was trying to make last week
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: a_blackbird on June 23, 2012, 05:02 am
The thing is if they can make good money from it why the fuck would they not just do it themselves?

Good point. Why isn't there more escrow type sites out there similar to silk road and black market reloaded? Because pulling it off is very difficult.

From a technical perspective, no, it really isn't.  If you're trying to build something that maybe the general public might not look too highly on, then yes, there are all sorts of additional security and risk concerns that you need to account for.  But to just build an escrow-based site where people can buy and sell shit?  Only difficult if you still code in Visual Basic. 

And even if you and your lackeys throw up the best site that the darknets have ever seen, you still have to get past the hurdles of A- getting the word out, B- getting people to use it even once, and C- getting people to trust you and your site enough to actually conduct business on it.  It's that last one that's going to make or break you. 

Good luck nonetheless.  I can't fault your entrepreneurial spirit.
Title: Re: Looker for talented coder to code new Tor base site [job offering]
Post by: zant on June 24, 2012, 02:21 am
The thing is if they can make good money from it why the fuck would they not just do it themselves?

Good point. Why isn't there more escrow type sites out there similar to silk road and black market reloaded? Because pulling it off is very difficult.

From a technical perspective, no, it really isn't.  If you're trying to build something that maybe the general public might not look too highly on, then yes, there are all sorts of additional security and risk concerns that you need to account for.  But to just build an escrow-based site where people can buy and sell shit?  Only difficult if you still code in Visual Basic. 

And even if you and your lackeys throw up the best site that the darknets have ever seen, you still have to get past the hurdles of A- getting the word out, B- getting people to use it even once, and C- getting people to trust you and your site enough to actually conduct business on it.  It's that last one that's going to make or break you. 

Good luck nonetheless.  I can't fault your entrepreneurial spirit.

Getting the word out on a service on the darknet is simple as task and I have my sources to contact in the real world of people who would write an article or two to push this kind of website out in the public eye.

I'm still searching for that right person for the job and I think I've found a few people who are willing/up for the task of going into operation.

It's a difficult operation to start but once it gets running I'm sure it will be easier to manage.