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Title: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Limetless on June 15, 2012, 08:18 pm
This is especially for Brits, but fuck it anyone give an answer as well.

Basically I am fed up with this morbid country with it's shit weather, ever increasingly invasive laws, crap food, crap society, stupid kids that are getting dumber every leaving school year, crap finances and just general shitness. So given all that I am mulling over the idea of getting the fuck out of dodge and wandering off to somewhere with a bit more sun, where summer actually starts in May/June, where people don't wander around proud of wearing shell-suits and where Ed Milliband wouldn't be considered a good candidate as leader of the opposition party.

So out of the places I've listed above vote, give your reasons why or if you'd go somewhere else. Please share and tell me why.

And just to make it clear, just because I have listed these places DOESN'T mean I'll be going there or going at all. It's just an idea that popped into my mind today and I was wondering where people would go themselves. However if LE are reading this I'll be moving to an igloo at the South Pole so yeah, send SOCA or Interpol or whatever police force covers Antarctica because THAT IS DEFINITELY WHERE I WILL BE. I PROMISE. HANDS DOWN SWEAR ON MY LIFE I WILL DEFINITELY, 100% BE AT THE SOUTH POLE.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Reece on June 15, 2012, 08:27 pm
I like that USA isn't an option.  :P
I can understand that.

Italy or Thailand IMO.
Or Ibiza, that's close enough to Spain isn't it?
 ;)
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: chronicpain on June 15, 2012, 08:35 pm
Used to live in the costa del sol.... Gotta love Malaga, Motril, Jaen, Granada.... I liked Sevilla as well, but Cadiz, and Malaga were my favorites....... (the summer is very hot) but the winters are mild and the spring and fall are just superb......
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Limetless on June 15, 2012, 08:41 pm
Used to live in the costa del sol.... Gotta love Malaga, Motril, Jaen, Granada.... I liked Sevilla as well, but Cadiz, and Malaga were my favorites....... (the summer is very hot) but the winters are mild and the spring and fall are just superb......

I gotta say I'm quite a fan of the Costa del Crime myself and I have spent time there on extended holidays. Malaga and Marbella are lush with plenty of fit birds that I can make my Mrs Limetless. Ibiza is good as well and I've had plenty of trips there. Love the clubs.  ;D

And LOL no offense all my lovely Americanos but FUCK moving to the states right in the bum. Baring mind what I do for a living I'm alright for tangling with the FBI and all that other shit you have. Also, imagine if I got nicked there. I can't speak bloody American and I'd get mugged off because of my accent. I speak more Italian and Spanish than bloody American.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: redalloverthelandguyhere on June 15, 2012, 08:44 pm
I will consider a nation which might look after me with free health care.

The UK compared to other nations is great. It might be that some of you are young enough to leave but usually you could feel pissed off anywhere. Even more so if you broke a leg and someone asked if you could pay for treatment.

Travelling is good.

but the UK has too many good things for me to leave.

That said I have thought about it. Spain is good. I know someone who moved to Mexico also.

Australia, New Zealand, they are too hot!!

The USA - got relatives there who love it and made a good living there. I know others who went to the USA and hated it. The people are great but the USA has little for the poor!

the UK we have safety nets. If I lost my job I would be in need of the safety net!

Millions would come to the UK in a flash.

And if Africa had free health care and free housing I'd live there for 6 months, get a crop in at least  ;D

Laters
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: mito on June 15, 2012, 08:45 pm
Limetless,

Have you ever thought of Rio de Janeiro?

Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Limetless on June 15, 2012, 08:52 pm
I have thought about Brazil but I don't speak any Portuguese.

Also I don't care about paying for healthcare and things like that. I have enough money to deal with things like that and I prefer private health anyway because you get a better quality of care. Sorry to any socialists out there, but it's true and I don't like the idea of getting things free when I can pay for them myself.

I wouldn't go to Australia or New Zealand because it would be too hard to set up shop there and I really can't be fucked with their customs or getting beaten up by a kangaroo. I can see me going to a bar in the outback and thinking one is giving me a funny look. And come on, Kangaroos can box, no human stands a fucking chance against an animal that can box. It'd kick my ass all over that big red rock they have.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: psychedelicmind on June 15, 2012, 08:56 pm
I understand what you are saying about the shit weather Limitless.

I am in Ireland and we haven't had a decent Summer in about 10 years.

If I was going abroad, i'd move to somewhere like Peru. I am very interested in Shamanic society and their way of life, so i'd get real Shamanic experiences down there from the originals :-)

The idea is in my head now! :-) I'll have to act on it one of these days!
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: diskoking23 on June 15, 2012, 08:56 pm
Went to Naples last year on Holiday... Bloody lovely place... We're checking out the former Yugoslavia this year! I'm fed up of the shit weather we've been having... It's a right ol' bag of wank!
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: sollemnis on June 15, 2012, 09:01 pm
I'd go to Spain, without a doubt. Anyone watched the film 'The Business'? I've wanted to go Spain ever since, nice looking women, good drugs, nice weather from time-time. That's what I call perfection.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: souledout on June 15, 2012, 09:04 pm
Uruguay............       

check it out , youll be convinced (punte del diablo/colonia in particular) !  VERY easy steps to residency and citizen ship, CHEAP property, good food, beautiful women, cheap coke and you can grow upto 8 weed plants legally per person,

 

Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: diskoking23 on June 15, 2012, 09:05 pm
When I think of Spain and Ex-Pats.. The only film that ever springs to mind is 'Sexy Beast'


Bloody hell. I'm sweating in here. Roasting. Boiling. Baking. Sweltering. It's like a sauna.  :)
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: diskoking23 on June 15, 2012, 09:06 pm
I'm a gay??? Sorry... Could not help it!! :/
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Limetless on June 15, 2012, 09:38 pm
When I think of Spain and Ex-Pats.. The only film that ever springs to mind is 'Sexy Beast'


Bloody hell. I'm sweating in here. Roasting. Boiling. Baking. Sweltering. It's like a sauna.  :)

That's basically what I'm looking for mate. Get a nice villa with a pool on the side of a mountain so I can sit boiling my nads off in my Ray Bans and my speedos and occasionally drop some posts on hear when I get to hot while you lot suffer in the fuckin rain. Not that I'm sadistic at all.... ;)

The question is though...where the fuck shall I go to achieve this???? House prices in the E.U are pretty tasty at the moment but they are gunna drop further. But if there was ever a time to drop £250-400K on a villa and know you are gunna get a lot for your bread than this is definitely it. Also with the shit state of the Euro at the moment dropping that much on a villa will get you a fucking palace.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: oscarzululondon on June 15, 2012, 10:01 pm
For me definitely Ibiza, I go there several times a year and it's like heaven. The police are practically none existent, you can go there and back holding your suitcase without it being checked once. Several times they haven't even checked my passport going on to the island. You can drive whatever you want however you want, noone seems to care. All the roads are practically brand new and you can drive from the airport to the center of the main city, Ibiza Town in about 5 mins.

The weather is amazing, even during winter, I was there in February this year and got severely sunburned like a lobster as I forgot to pack suncream.

The villa prices are really good, and you can get some spectacular villas, such as on top of hills with an infinity pool which flows over into the sea and steps down to your own beach with crystal clear blue water for about £400,000, Engel & Volkers the famous international German estate agency are the place to look. They will deal with you in cash and no questions asked.

The food in most restaurants, even local bars is Michelin Star compared to what they serve up here in the UK (and I eat in a lot of Michelin restaurants in the UK). The food is also ridiculously cheap and any drugs are incredibly easy to come by. Pacha now has a new restaurant which is simply mind blowing, the service and food is amazing and it's always full of British bankers looking to party away from Canary Wharf for the weekend.

The clubs are without a doubt the best in the world, you've got Pacha, Space, Privilege, Amnesia, Cafe Del Mar, Bora Bora etc etc, which are all mind blowing, and cater to all social types, from Cafe Del Mar which is nice and chilled out and an amazing place to have a Mojito and watch the sunset onto the sea to Pacha which is just something else.

You can literally buy drugs anytime of year outside most bars from the Russian looking guys on the pavement or black guys who walk up and down the beaches all day selling "Sunglasses", and they're amazing quality, most straight from the Netherlands.

I mean just look at this shit:

http://www.engelvoelkers.com/es/ibiza/cala-carb%C3%B3/modern-designer-townhouse-with-views-to-es-vedr%C3%A1-w-00ivza-881254.210989_exp/?startIndex=49&sortField=sortPrice&businessArea=&sortOrder=ASC&q=&facets=bsnssr%3Aresidential%3Bcntry%3Aspain%3Bdstrct%3Aibiza%3Brgn%3Aibiza%3Btyp%3Abuy%3B&pageSize=50&language=en&elang=en

http://www.engelvoelkers.com/es/ibiza/ntra-sra-de-jes%C3%BAs/stunning-villa-with-top-view-w-00s7px-1316373.366103_exp/?startIndex=4&businessArea=&q=&facets=bsnssr%3Aresidential%3Bcntry%3Aspain%3Bdstrct%3Aibiza%3Brgn%3Aibiza%3Btyp%3Abuy%3B&pageSize=10&language=en&elang=en

If you're older you can explore the old town on top of the hill in Ibiza's main city, which is spectacular, and like a town built into a castle ontop of a really tall hill, it's fully of jewellery shops where they will make stuff for you by hand infront of you, and some amazing restaurants with views over the harbor:

http://www.travelandlivingchannel.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Ibiza-Holiday-Deals.jpg

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&sa=N&biw=1440&bih=677&tbm=isch&tbnid=9G9fGnctm8tGkM:&imgrefurl=http://www.travelguideibiza.com/visit-the-old-town-of-ibiza/&docid=GVuH1029jJFeoM&imgurl=http://www.travelguideibiza.com/wp-content/uploads/Ibiza-old-town.jpg&w=1280&h=960&ei=H7DbT9-oIIrt8AP0yLGeCw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=176&sig=104295618488582869994&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=185&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0,i:105&tx=105&ty=50

You can get return flights for £20 to the UK. I don't know what else to say really. If you don't go there once in your life then all I can say is you've missed out one of the most special amazing things life has to offer.

I've got family that work in the travel industry and I've been to most places around the world now, but still for me nothing touches on Ibiza.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: sollemnis on June 15, 2012, 10:03 pm
When I think of Spain and Ex-Pats.. The only film that ever springs to mind is 'Sexy Beast'


Bloody hell. I'm sweating in here. Roasting. Boiling. Baking. Sweltering. It's like a sauna.  :)

That's basically what I'm looking for mate. Get a nice villa with a pool on the side of a mountain so I can sit boiling my nads off in my Ray Bans and my speedos and occasionally drop some posts on hear when I get to hot while you lot suffer in the fuckin rain. Not that I'm sadistic at all.... ;)

The question is though...where the fuck shall I go to achieve this???? House prices in the E.U are pretty tasty at the moment but they are gunna drop further. But if there was ever a time to drop £250-400K on a villa and know you are gunna get a lot for your bread than this is definitely it. Also with the shit state of the Euro at the moment dropping that much on a villa will get you a fucking palace.

Sell your EX MOD thing mate, move to Spain, buy a shit load of Coke and start living  8)
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: souledout on June 15, 2012, 10:09 pm
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Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Limetless on June 15, 2012, 10:12 pm
To be fair Disco, having read that post you have made me remember how good my holidays in Beefa have been. I'm feeling the pull again. However....fuck buying drugs of them nextman....no need. ;)

We will have to see what happens and where I end up. Have been thinking about the Caribbean as well. You can live like a king there.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: diskoking23 on June 15, 2012, 10:23 pm
Ha ha!! I'd love it!! :D
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: zapatista36 on June 15, 2012, 11:00 pm
Go to Greece - given the exponential rate it's gonna implode in, you'll be a millionaire.....for about a week until all your money gets devalued and then you're pissing in pots like the rest of them.  Morocco's fucking sound, with a good resource base for a vendor.  But internet and post are a bit shit, however if you're in the north you're a ferry or private run on your own boat (if you're pulling enough BTC to fund one) from Spain
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: vlad1m1r on June 16, 2012, 12:57 am
To be fair Disco, having read that post you have made me remember how good my holidays in Beefa have been. I'm feeling the pull again. However....fuck buying drugs of them nextman....no need. ;)

We will have to see what happens and where I end up. Have been thinking about the Caribbean as well. You can live like a king there.

Well further to our previous discussions I am inclined to agree with you - imagine being in an offshore location like the Caymans/Bahamas? Excellent weather, low cost of living, easily bribed Police and Customs Officials and most importantly your pick of the offshore banks to assist your clients in salting away their hard won gains!

I have been thinking about this quite seriously as I think an offshore BTC exchange would be in everyone's interests - yours especially, might be something to consider if you move out there :-)

V.

Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Limetless on June 16, 2012, 01:21 am
To be fair Disco, having read that post you have made me remember how good my holidays in Beefa have been. I'm feeling the pull again. However....fuck buying drugs of them nextman....no need. ;)

We will have to see what happens and where I end up. Have been thinking about the Caribbean as well. You can live like a king there.

Well further to our previous discussions I am inclined to agree with you - imagine being in an offshore location like the Caymans/Bahamas? Excellent weather, low cost of living, easily bribed Police and Customs Officials and most importantly your pick of the offshore banks to assist your clients in salting away their hard won gains!

I have been thinking about this quite seriously as I think an offshore BTC exchange would be in everyone's interests - yours especially, might be something to consider if you move out there :-)

V.

Ahh Vlad when you say the words "easily bribed police and customs" you do make me go weak at the knees. :P

I actually set aside some time to develop a business model for an offshore digital currency exchange while I did that business plan on how to launder a million quids worth of BTC as a separate exorcise and it's actually very feasible to do but the money you would need as a start up isn't short change. I then linked both of the plans together and worked out I could make the BTC-Sterling exchange rate rise by around £1 in 10 weeks if I did it in a particular way (by staging a run on the exchanges). Did tickle my fancy I have to say. Also the business model for an offshore exchange easily showed that by capitalising on the extra privacy, deregulated monetary systems and the other perks of working offshore you could put Sang out of business pretty rapidly. Gox would take a bit longer but I believe that it would not be impossible to supplant them as the No. 1 exchange, in fact if you did it correctly it's quite feasible.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: vlad1m1r on June 16, 2012, 01:54 am
To be fair Disco, having read that post you have made me remember how good my holidays in Beefa have been. I'm feeling the pull again. However....fuck buying drugs of them nextman....no need. ;)

We will have to see what happens and where I end up. Have been thinking about the Caribbean as well. You can live like a king there.

Well further to our previous discussions I am inclined to agree with you - imagine being in an offshore location like the Caymans/Bahamas? Excellent weather, low cost of living, easily bribed Police and Customs Officials and most importantly your pick of the offshore banks to assist your clients in salting away their hard won gains!

I have been thinking about this quite seriously as I think an offshore BTC exchange would be in everyone's interests - yours especially, might be something to consider if you move out there :-)

V.

Ahh Vlad when you say the words "easily bribed police and customs" you do make me go weak at the knees. :P

I actually set aside some time to develop a business model for an offshore digital currency exchange while I did that business plan on how to launder a million quids worth of BTC as a separate exorcise and it's actually very feasible to do but the money you would need as a start up isn't short change. I then linked both of the plans together and worked out I could make the BTC-Sterling exchange rate rise by around £1 in 10 weeks if I did it in a particular way (by staging a run on the exchanges). Did tickle my fancy I have to say. Also the business model for an offshore exchange easily showed that by capitalising on the extra privacy, deregulated monetary systems and the other perks of working offshore you could put Sang out of business pretty rapidly. Gox would take a bit longer but I believe that it would not be impossible to supplant them as the No. 1 exchange, in fact if you did it correctly it's quite feasible.

It seems great minds think alike Lim, I've been thinking about this a lot during the last week... the advantage of course would be that vendors could withdraw coins directly to an offshore bank account without any danger of the exchange revealing that information to LEO. In fact my understanding is that in certain territories like the Caymans there is actual legal provision to state that the government is not entitled to see the financial records of a bank so in the absence of a court order I think the vendors would be much better off.

Another advantage of course is that you can open bank accounts denominated in all major currencies USD, GBP, EUR, CHF and so on so as you say you could contend with Intersango very easily. Of course there is the issue of extra processing times and wire transfer fees but I don't see any reason the exchange couldn't have a business account in the US/UK/EU as well to make such payments.

The issue of initial capital is a worry but if you did go ahead with this I'd suggest you actually start selling off stock for it on GLBSE - it's in every vendors interest for an exchange like this to exist. Moreover, as you say the very creation of the exchange itself could trigger a run on the existing exchanges as happened when BTC China launched which could drive up the price of the Bitcoin - the beauty of that of course is only you would know when the exchange would launch so you could make a King's ransom through this alone!

Another suggestion might be to offer a "cash out" option, which would be easy to set up and implement if you were actually living in this location where the proceeds from the sale of the BTC are transferred to the exchange's own bank account and then withdrawn as cash over the counter to be sent to the mailing address of the vendor's choice by registered mail - perhaps this would be impractical for very large amounts though? In the department where I work many clients still use banker's drafts which are nearly as anonymous.

If you do decide to go ahead, please do let me know if there's anything I can do to help, even if it's only convincing vendors of the necessity for such an exchange!

All the best,

V.





Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Limetless on June 16, 2012, 02:07 am
In very basic terms you are correct but there is a lot more to it than that, for example, banking in the Caymans is an absolute no-no when you want to avoid tax let alone launder money nowadays. When the world economy was truly globalised which IMO was marked by the .com bubble the restrictions and changes on ML techniques changes more rapidly than ever. This is all down to the fact that countries can communicate with each other quicker and quicker.

Regarding whether or not I'd go ahead with it, I would like to one day but I would only do it if certain things happened in the future concerning BitCoin itself because unless specific events happen with BTC the BTC economy will become a bubble and collapse itself within a certain time. The things that will decide if this does/does not happen have yet to come but it will be interesting to see how it plays out. The actual start up wouldn't be an issue for me. It's the BTC's longevity that concerns me.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: vlad1m1r on June 16, 2012, 02:13 am
In very basic terms you are correct but there is a lot more to it than that, for example, banking in the Caymans is an absolute no-no when you want to avoid tax let alone launder money nowadays. When the world economy was truly globalised which IMO was marked by the .com bubble the restrictions and changes on ML techniques changes more rapidly than ever. This is all down to the fact that countries can communicate with each other quicker and quicker.

Regarding whether or not I'd go ahead with it, I would like to one day but I would only do it if certain things happened in the future concerning BitCoin itself because unless specific events happen with BTC the BTC economy will become a bubble and collapse itself within a certain time. The things that will decide if this does/does not happen have yet to come but it will be interesting to see how it plays out. The actual start up wouldn't be an issue for me. It's the BTC's longevity that concerns me.

Interesting! I believe that we have until 2019 when the 20, 000, 000th Bitcoin will be mined and that will be that. I had been wondering myself about the endgame for the currency. I imagine we could all agree on a Bitcoin fork but as you say a lot can happen between now and then. Off course I used the Caymans as an example, perhaps there's a better place to house such an exchange? For instance the banks are now descending upon the newly formed territory of South Sudan like a load of Harpies? :)

V.

Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Limetless on June 16, 2012, 02:26 am
In very basic terms you are correct but there is a lot more to it than that, for example, banking in the Caymans is an absolute no-no when you want to avoid tax let alone launder money nowadays. When the world economy was truly globalised which IMO was marked by the .com bubble the restrictions and changes on ML techniques changes more rapidly than ever. This is all down to the fact that countries can communicate with each other quicker and quicker.

Regarding whether or not I'd go ahead with it, I would like to one day but I would only do it if certain things happened in the future concerning BitCoin itself because unless specific events happen with BTC the BTC economy will become a bubble and collapse itself within a certain time. The things that will decide if this does/does not happen have yet to come but it will be interesting to see how it plays out. The actual start up wouldn't be an issue for me. It's the BTC's longevity that concerns me.

Interesting! I believe that we have until 2019 when the 20, 000, 000th Bitcoin will be mined and that will be that. I had been wondering myself about the endgame for the currency. I imagine we could all agree on a Bitcoin fork but as you say a lot can happen between now and then. Off course I used the Caymans as an example, perhaps there's a better place to house such an exchange? For instance the banks are now descending upon the newly formed territory of South Sudan like a load of Harpies? :)

V.

Yes that is the issue I am referring to. Once there is no more BTC left to be mined I predict there will be a short lived but rapidly growing bubble that will put the BTC's value beyond practical for a liquid-movement which any stable economy needs to survive. Once this happens the sheer price of 1 individual BTC will be the exact cause of it's devaluation and eventual crash into no value at all which will leave those with high reserves with less than nothing because the BTC is intangible. It will be sort of like the 2008 bond market crash but in a much smaller scale but with a overly valued currency instead of a badly risk assessed debt lol. With this in mind the smart exchanges will build reserves and if possible stop building them probably around 6 months before the last coin is mined.

The ONLY thing that can stop this from happening, and I really do mean ONLY, is the creation of more BTC that will allow a stable continuation of the currency. If this doesn't happen, the BitCoin is royally fucked I'm afraid. The economic E=MC2 (the law of supply and demand) will can't be denied and the economic E=MC2 will have it's way.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: vlad1m1r on June 16, 2012, 03:03 am
In very basic terms you are correct but there is a lot more to it than that, for example, banking in the Caymans is an absolute no-no when you want to avoid tax let alone launder money nowadays. When the world economy was truly globalised which IMO was marked by the .com bubble the restrictions and changes on ML techniques changes more rapidly than ever. This is all down to the fact that countries can communicate with each other quicker and quicker.

Regarding whether or not I'd go ahead with it, I would like to one day but I would only do it if certain things happened in the future concerning BitCoin itself because unless specific events happen with BTC the BTC economy will become a bubble and collapse itself within a certain time. The things that will decide if this does/does not happen have yet to come but it will be interesting to see how it plays out. The actual start up wouldn't be an issue for me. It's the BTC's longevity that concerns me.

Interesting! I believe that we have until 2019 when the 20, 000, 000th Bitcoin will be mined and that will be that. I had been wondering myself about the endgame for the currency. I imagine we could all agree on a Bitcoin fork but as you say a lot can happen between now and then. Off course I used the Caymans as an example, perhaps there's a better place to house such an exchange? For instance the banks are now descending upon the newly formed territory of South Sudan like a load of Harpies? :)

V.

Yes that is the issue I am referring to. Once there is no more BTC left to be mined I predict there will be a short lived but rapidly growing bubble that will put the BTC's value beyond practical for a liquid-movement which any stable economy needs to survive. Once this happens the sheer price of 1 individual BTC will be the exact cause of it's devaluation and eventual crash into no value at all which will leave those with high reserves with less than nothing because the BTC is intangible. It will be sort of like the 2008 bond market crash but in a much smaller scale but with a overly valued currency instead of a badly risk assessed debt lol. With this in mind the smart exchanges will build reserves and if possible stop building them probably around 6 months before the last coin is mined.

The ONLY thing that can stop this from happening, and I really do mean ONLY, is the creation of more BTC that will allow a stable continuation of the currency. If this doesn't happen, the BitCoin is royally fucked I'm afraid. The economic E=MC2 (the law of supply and demand) will can't be denied and the economic E=MC2 will have it's way.

Well said Lim, many people don't seem to say the inherent dangers of overvaluing a currency - I was trying to explain this to one of my colleagues the other day who couldn't understand why the Chinese were deliberately weakening the Yuan (although they seem to be letting up on this?).

Anyway the only thing I would say about this, is given what we've said about the finite supply of BTC, I would say that's all the more reason to have an exchange which allows vendors to cash out large amounts quickly of the kind we're talking about!

Also, I'm not convinced that the transition will be as open and shut as we think it will be. I imagine in the next three years another cryptocurrency will be formed to run in parallel with the Bitcoin although what kind of rate of exchange there'll be between it and the BTC remains to be seen. Of course there are "Freecoins" and "Strongcoins" already but am I right in thinking they never took off because they're too closely regulated?

As you say the Bitcoin is as susceptible to the law of supply and demand as any other currency - there's certainly a demand for a currency that does the job of Bitcoin but we're not wedded to it any more than you or I are wedded to the Pound - all major currencies accepted :)

V.



Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Limetless on June 16, 2012, 03:27 am
The Chinese were fucking SMART to keep devaluing their Yuan because it's reason why the West has made China the center of the universe for manufacturing which is what is sustaining their economic miracle. What people don't realise is that now China has had such growth and now the Red Dragon's society is shifting so rapidly (the emergence of the Chinese middle class, improving living conditions, migration to the cities etc) that China doesn't just want to sustain their growth and it's % of annual growth every year, it HAS TO and it's TERRIFIED of the consequences if it doesn't. China's devaluation of it's currency isn't just an exorcize in keeping the West sweet, it's an exorcise in self preservation due in the fear of losing control of their own society.

And yeah I agree it wont be that cut and dry, like I said these things have yet to be revealed. Personally I hope that the BTC is allowed to carry one and become a stable long-lasting currency.

Lim
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Limetless on June 18, 2012, 03:57 pm
If I did go to the U.S I'd go to Orange County California. Plastic bitches with plastic titties mother fuckers!
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: scrappy on June 18, 2012, 04:06 pm
France - no extradition - they wouldnt extradite Roman Polanski, who was an american national
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Meister on June 18, 2012, 04:15 pm
Personally, I'm torn between wanting to live somewhere remote versus living somewhere with a good internet connection ... that's sad I know, but it really is high on my priority list.

I would say the Virgin Islands. I'm assuming it's the same for British citizens as Puerto Rico is for American citizens, where we don't need a passport to travel there. Any Caribbean island would be interesting, amazing beaches, lot's of interesting places to visit inland, is a short distance away from Cuba which having now opened up is a budding criminal hotspot, short flight to the Bahamas or Miami for heavenly night clubs.

Then given your love of bing, you're on the doorstep to South America. Only downside I can see would be hurricanes and shipping anything out would take quite a while I'd imagine, maybe not.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Kappacino on June 18, 2012, 04:36 pm
You should invest in building an underground nuclear-proof house somewhere.

You want to be stocked up and ready when the shit hits the fan
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Limetless on June 18, 2012, 04:50 pm
Hahaha I dunno if I could deal with living in a bunker mate. Not enough room to roam lol.

And I think given my love for the Latin-Powder it's possibly better if I'm not near South America....don't want to become the Dyson of the Amazon lol!
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Banjo on June 18, 2012, 05:17 pm
I really loved Spain, the two times I've been there. Unfortunately, that's the only place I've been to on your list. I used to live in the Middle East, and loved it, but it's fucking hot as fucking fuck, and I never even heard of anyone doing coke. Too bad you don't like opiates...
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Knomo on June 18, 2012, 05:49 pm
I plan to live in New Zealand one day.. In like 30 years or something, nothing too fancy, a small farm maybe.
Just growing my own food and all that, no worries about money and shit..

Yeah.. I'll keep dreaming about that :)

Too bad tho they have such strict customs, but maybe in 30 years Silk Road has moved to the clearnet and it's an daughter enterprise of Ebay!
Legal drugs everywhere :D

Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: vlad1m1r on June 18, 2012, 06:43 pm
I plan to live in New Zealand one day.. In like 30 years or something, nothing too fancy, a small farm maybe.
Just growing my own food and all that, no worries about money and shit..

Yeah.. I'll keep dreaming about that :)

Too bad tho they have such strict customs, but maybe in 30 years Silk Road has moved to the clearnet and it's an daughter enterprise of Ebay!
Legal drugs everywhere :D

Don't forget the day that happens it'll be the end of SR! :-D - Anyway you could always go over there with your regular luggage and send yourself seeds in the mail, work your plot of land!

V.

Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Meister on June 18, 2012, 06:47 pm
I plan to live in New Zealand one day.. In like 30 years or something, nothing too fancy, a small farm maybe.
Just growing my own food and all that, no worries about money and shit..

Yeah.. I'll keep dreaming about that :)

Too bad tho they have such strict customs, but maybe in 30 years Silk Road has moved to the clearnet and it's an daughter enterprise of Ebay!
Legal drugs everywhere :D

New Zealand has such odd residency laws, they have a points system based on certain criteria like your education level etc and you're put on a waiting list and apparently will be on it a while if you don't have adequate points.

My personal place I'd like to live isn't exotic, or that difficult if I ever had the opportunity. It would be southern Oregon, you have northern California weather (wine country) without the insane California taxes, on the ocean and can drive south if you want the beach, drive east if you want mountains, and legalization of marijuana with a limit of 24 plants iirc, much higher than California's limit.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Knomo on June 18, 2012, 06:49 pm
I plan to live in New Zealand one day.. In like 30 years or something, nothing too fancy, a small farm maybe.
Just growing my own food and all that, no worries about money and shit..

Yeah.. I'll keep dreaming about that :)

Too bad tho they have such strict customs, but maybe in 30 years Silk Road has moved to the clearnet and it's an daughter enterprise of Ebay!
Legal drugs everywhere :D

Don't forget the day that happens it'll be the end of SR! :-D - Anyway you could always go over there with your regular luggage and send yourself seeds in the mail, work your plot of land!

V.

Hehe, why would it be the end? :P I'm talking 30 years into the future eh, maybe governments worldwide have come to the conclusion that banning drugs isn't solving anything so it's legal anywhere.. That's why Silk Road can be on clearnet 8)
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Locker on June 18, 2012, 06:55 pm
I've lived in Thailand half my life, and truss me on this If you want somewhere to move to Thailand is the place!
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: ilovelsd69 on June 18, 2012, 10:36 pm
Come to Canada  ;) No i'm joking, if you want to forget about UK don't come to a country that print the Queen's face on the money! But if you want free healthcare.. it is the place !
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: MasterAnon on June 18, 2012, 10:59 pm
Thailand without a doubt. Its far from the fucking queen and the Olympics indoctrination. Time to jump ship and keep high in Asia ;D
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: oscarzululondon on June 18, 2012, 11:02 pm
Thailand without a doubt. Its far from the fucking queen and the Olympics indoctrination. Time to jump ship and keep high in Asia ;D

I think Limetless likes the Queen...
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: MasterAnon on June 18, 2012, 11:07 pm
Rofl sorry I don't see why anyone should like queen lizabreath. Shes in debt with tax payers by billions of pounds and for what? Because by some dumb luck she was born into a monarchy? xD. I'm sorry I don't understand that logic at all.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: vlad1m1r on June 18, 2012, 11:17 pm
Come to Canada  ;) No i'm joking, if you want to forget about UK don't come to a country that print the Queen's face on the money! But if you want free healthcare.. it is the place !

I should explain that we do have free Healthcare in the UK too.

It would be more correct to saying if you actually want *decent* free Healthcare you should go to Canada - I applied for a Visa and was given one as a French speaker a few years ago but couldn't afford the air fares - if I ever get across I'll hit you up!

All the best,

V.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: ilovelsd69 on June 18, 2012, 11:22 pm
Come to Canada  ;) No i'm joking, if you want to forget about UK don't come to a country that print the Queen's face on the money! But if you want free healthcare.. it is the place !

I should explain that we do have free Healthcare in the UK too.

It would be more correct to saying if you actually want *decent* free Healthcare you should go to Canada - I applied for a Visa and was given one as a French speaker a few years ago but couldn't afford the air fares - if I ever get across I'll hit you up!

All the best,

V.

Thanks for the info, i don't know a lot about other countries but this is always nice to learn things :D
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: gambino on June 19, 2012, 12:29 am
Thailand, for sure.

"Where you go?  What your name?"
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: oscarzululondon on June 19, 2012, 12:40 am
Shes in debt with tax payers by billions of pounds

No she isn't....

Rofl sorry I don't see why anyone should like queen lizabreath. Shes in debt with tax payers by billions of pounds and for what? Because by some dumb luck she was born into a monarchy? xD. I'm sorry I don't understand that logic at all.

She brings billions of pounds of tourism to the United Kingdom every year, find me a promotional video of the UK and London that doesn't feature the Royal Family in some way. There have been many cost / benefit studies produced over the years and they all come out in favour of the Royal Family.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: ilovelsd69 on June 19, 2012, 12:55 am
Shes in debt with tax payers by billions of pounds

No she isn't....

Rofl sorry I don't see why anyone should like queen lizabreath. Shes in debt with tax payers by billions of pounds and for what? Because by some dumb luck she was born into a monarchy? xD. I'm sorry I don't understand that logic at all.

She brings billions of pounds of tourism to the United Kingdom every year, find me a promotional video of the UK and London that doesn't feature the Royal Family in some way. There have been many cost / benefit studies produced over the years and they all come out in favour of the Royal Family.

Royal family in general bring cash to each country they visit i think, as far as i know when they come to Canada this is always giving us some money.. this cost millions each time but i'm sure this bring some money with tourism.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: vlad1m1r on June 19, 2012, 07:46 pm
I've lived in Thailand half my life, and truss me on this If you want somewhere to move to Thailand is the place!
true: bitches, dope, everything cheap, good weather, internet, police bridable...what else could a dope fiend want???

I like the idea of cheap booze and loose, pretty girls. This said a couple of things worry me:

- The prevalence of AIDS.
- The high risk of being mugged because you're a foreigner.
- Rampant Police corruption working against you e.g the Bangkok Airport Scam
- Having two different prices in many shops in public attractions ; one for foreigners, one for locals.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

V.

Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: AnCapPiano on June 19, 2012, 10:15 pm
I think someone already mentioned it but I wonder if you've thought about Uruguay? I've heard that it's really easy to become a resident and the government there is very limited and nowhere near as invasive as ones in supposedly free countries such as the UK (I live here too) or the US.

I totally get what you mean about wanting to leave the UK too. I can't wait until I'm old enough to just pack up and leave - I mean what is it with these ridiculous laws like the communications data bill? It seems people here don't care about their privacy, or anything else for that matter. This is just a nation of sleepwalking, passive and obnoxious retards obsessed with image and gossip rather than life. I can't wait to just leave.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: AnCapPiano on June 19, 2012, 10:19 pm
Oh and also even if you don't like Uruguay itself you can be resident in Montevideo and then just chill in Buenos Aires every now and then because it's just over the border  :P
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Locutus of Borg on June 19, 2012, 10:32 pm
If I were to choose on the basis of a paradise where the landscape is ideal and the people are generally friendly I would be inclined to choose one of the islands surrounding the Australia region, e.g. Vanuatu, Palau, etc.

However I could imagine shipping drugs into a country with the total population of a small English city might become problematic. So, the Netherlands might be a decent spot considering the ease of access to quality stuff.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: vlad1m1r on June 19, 2012, 11:19 pm
If I were to choose on the basis of a paradise where the landscape is ideal and the people are generally friendly I would be inclined to choose one of the islands surrounding the Australia region, e.g. Vanuatu, Palau, etc.

However I could imagine shipping drugs into a country with the total population of a small English city might become problematic. So, the Netherlands might be a decent spot considering the ease of access to quality stuff.

I can't wait for you to meet our vendor Captain Picard :-D

V.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Locutus of Borg on June 19, 2012, 11:37 pm
Funnily enough I have absolutely no interest in Star Trek whatsoever. The inspiration for my name comes directly from my love of Patrick Stewart and the Picard song on Youtube.

Nevertheless, I look forward to meeting anybody who's forum name is modeled on the genius that is Sir Patrick Stewart.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: sdesu on June 20, 2012, 12:13 am
I'd like to live in Norway, only because of this Mogwai video:
http://youtu.be/GrIRcB0x4iU

Or I'd like to live along the coastal areas of Scotland, preferably on top of a cliff with a beautiful view.

sdesu
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: bloodyone on June 20, 2012, 12:56 am
Corsica for me . I would turn it into the Island of pirates it once was.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: ilovelsd69 on June 20, 2012, 02:37 am
why is australia not on that list?

Great place to be.. unless you want drugs  :o

lol if i move to another place i will be sure to find decent drugs there ..
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: stinkybreeze on June 20, 2012, 04:30 am
Caribbean???  Bermuda down to Barbados.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: weedsaves on June 20, 2012, 05:37 am
Costa Rica. Something about a country with no military just puts me at ease.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: geedogg on June 20, 2012, 08:08 am
ok not read the 5 pages but for me i'd say thailand, but for Lim i'd say stay the fuck away if ur importing n exporting drugs there.

i'd go spain if i were you....close to UK, great weather, beaches n hot women, lifestyle is great and still in western EU for good postal service and still in EU law zone. Plus all the ex pats there you would blend right in! thats why its the costa del crime ay it!!
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Amy on June 23, 2012, 10:52 am
When I think of Spain and Ex-Pats.. The only film that ever springs to mind is 'Sexy Beast'


Bloody hell. I'm sweating in here. Roasting. Boiling. Baking. Sweltering. It's like a sauna.  :)

That's basically what I'm looking for mate. Get a nice villa with a pool on the side of a mountain so I can sit boiling my nads off in my Ray Bans and my speedos and occasionally drop some posts on hear when I get to hot while you lot suffer in the fuckin rain. Not that I'm sadistic at all.... ;)

The question is though...where the fuck shall I go to achieve this???? House prices in the E.U are pretty tasty at the moment but they are gunna drop further. But if there was ever a time to drop £250-400K on a villa and know you are gunna get a lot for your bread than this is definitely it. Also with the shit state of the Euro at the moment dropping that much on a villa will get you a fucking palace.

Sounds like one of the Canary islands could be suitable? 4.5 hours from London I think, muck around with the tourists in the resorts if you want but live in the city, such a Las Palmas (Gran Canaria) or maybe Arrecife (Lanzarote). I might be more tempted to buy krugerand or something with the cash and rent an apartment so at least you can move somewhere else if the year-round warm/hot weather and over-size liquor measures get boring.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: adam420 on June 23, 2012, 05:34 pm
Limitless : go to Bali Indonesia !!!!

its cheap its better then thailand i think . cause the people are much more friendly and you can party 24/7 if you want. i love it there if i got enough money iam going to live there.

and its also around 2 hours flying to Australia so if you fed up with it go to Australia from there ;)

Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Buho on June 23, 2012, 05:43 pm
Costa Rica. Something about a country with no military just puts me at ease.

Costa Rica seems pretty good to me. Sexy Ticas and Colombianas also lots of coke. Mailing could be a pain in the ass, but probably more doable than from Colombia etc.
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Limetless on June 25, 2012, 05:20 am
I have been Bali before, epic place for a holiday but AM I FUCK facing the death penalty for trying to spread my magic powders around the world. Lim likes to be alive, par the death penalty right off methinks!

Nice to see this thread getting interest, it's given me a lot to think about. :)

Was in an accident this week as well (why I haven't been posting like usual) and I need to get away from fucked up country lanes too where stupid bastards can't drive for shit. Whiplash to fuck = bad times. :(
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Gary Oak on June 25, 2012, 06:01 am
Was in an accident this week as well (why I haven't been posting like usual) and I need to get away from fucked up country lanes too where stupid bastards can't drive for shit. Whiplash to fuck = bad times. :(

Join the club buddy. ;)
Title: Re: Fuckin' fed up with the U.K....where would you go?
Post by: Limetless on June 25, 2012, 06:17 am
Was in an accident this week as well (why I haven't been posting like usual) and I need to get away from fucked up country lanes too where stupid bastards can't drive for shit. Whiplash to fuck = bad times. :(

Join the club buddy. ;)

Lol nah serious I've been on my back since like, middle of last week. Was fucked.