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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: goblin on June 05, 2012, 01:05 am

Title: An internet of "things"
Post by: goblin on June 05, 2012, 01:05 am
Just one more thing to keep you all up at night:

http://www.infowars.com/cia-head-we-will-spy-on-americans-through-electrical-appliances/

Sweet dreams, boys and girls.

goblin
Title: Re: An internet of "things"
Post by: oscarzululondon on June 05, 2012, 02:22 am
The CIA doesn't have a server large enough to store all that data so it's bullshit. More scare tactics.

I remember a friend recently from the security services telling me how he had to sit in a van for 2 days to crack (brute force) peoples WPA protected wireless networks when they wanted to check what they were up to (terrorists etc), needless to say I laughed my head off. I wasn't going to tell him how it can be done in 2 minutes, so I feel fairly safe still.
Title: Re: An internet of "things"
Post by: goblin on June 05, 2012, 10:28 am
The CIA doesn't have a server large enough to store all that data so it's bullshit. More scare tactics.

I remember a friend recently from the security services telling me how he had to sit in a van for 2 days to crack (brute force) peoples WPA protected wireless networks when they wanted to check what they were up to (terrorists etc), needless to say I laughed my head off. I wasn't going to tell him how it can be done in 2 minutes, so I feel fairly safe still.
Are you kidding? Haven't you heard of that monster superduper computing facility they're building in Utah? They'll have more than enough space and power, believe you me.

The only thing is, now you won't have any reason not to doubt your crazy uncle, you know the one with the tinfoil hat?, when he says his refrigerator is spying on him!

goblin
Title: Re: An internet of "things"
Post by: Horizons on June 05, 2012, 01:39 pm
It's not enough to have the server space and power. You need to put in a prohibitively large amount of man-hours to sort the information you're capturing, even if you get some awesome facial recognition software to automatically delete footage without people in it.

Sure, it'd suck to know that they're filming you, and if they were specifically investigation you it'd be a real danger, but the chances of this sort of surveillance being feasible, and of it actually improving their chances of spotting illegal activity, are so close to zero that someone should start a religion about it.
Title: Re: An internet of "things"
Post by: Kappacino on June 05, 2012, 01:46 pm
I believe they have the capacity to do this..

Remember, the technology that the public knows about is typically 10-20 years behind what is top secret, classified technology.

And even if they don't, we should assume they do, so we are prepared any way. But to be honest, I do think that silk road is, eventually, doomed. Not any time soon though. But sooner or later some ridiculous legislation will get through, or some postal scanning technology will be implemented.. etc. I mean if you showed someone from the 50s an ipad, they would think you were a sorcerer. The same will be true in another 60 years, the technology then will be so ridiculously advanced that it might be a mockery to even attempt anything like silk road, as much as say robbing a bank now without a mask is.
Title: Re: An internet of "things"
Post by: Meister on June 05, 2012, 02:14 pm
"Hello Mr. Jones, this is Federal Agent Cockstein. Sorry to wake you, but you left your refrigerator open."
Title: Re: An internet of "things"
Post by: goblin on June 05, 2012, 04:51 pm
Remember 1984's telescreens? They sound quaint by now, don't they?

To all the Winston Smiths out there: don't buy new appliances, stick with all pre-2012 stuff. Better safe than sorry.

And all kidding aside, you know they'll try to sell all this to the great fucking dumb American public as a great "convenience" (Why yes, Mrs. Tate, this nifty gadget will call a repairman automatically when having a problem, no need for you to worry!); and the great fucking dumb American public will swallow it whole, as usual. I've never seen a population that's so willing to not only bend over, but to eagerly drop their pants to all the better get sodomized.

Fucking morons.

goblin
Title: Re: An internet of "things"
Post by: vlad1m1r on June 05, 2012, 04:55 pm
It's not enough to have the server space and power. You need to put in a prohibitively large amount of man-hours to sort the information you're capturing, even if you get some awesome facial recognition software to automatically delete footage without people in it.

Sure, it'd suck to know that they're filming you, and if they were specifically investigation you it'd be a real danger, but the chances of this sort of surveillance being feasible, and of it actually improving their chances of spotting illegal activity, are so close to zero that someone should start a religion about it.

Well said Horizons, I was going to make this point myself - you still need thousands of human beings to trawl through all this footage.

V.