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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Adasel on June 02, 2012, 03:12 pm
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Basically, as its the Queens jubilee, ive seen posts dedicated to it, but personally i would like to hear what everybody thinks about the british royal family.
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Don't know them personally, but they like orgies and drugs so they seem like a decent bunch.
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Basically, as its the Queens jubilee, ive seen posts dedicated to it, but personally i would like to hear what everybody thinks about the british royal family.
Fiddling as Rome burns. Yes, more bread and cirucus.
The whole idea of the british public so enamored by these in-bred decedents of tyranical thieves is mind numbing to me. Why tolerate them? Why allow them to keep all that stolen wealth, nevertheless give them a budget like they do. I just don't get the whole monarch figure head worship bullshit i guess.
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Whose this? Burger King?
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AndrewBud, i am guessing your american. What a typicall american response.
It's like when you argue with a yank about the war, all they can say is "if it wasnt for us you would have no chance"
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I don't know much about the British royals but here in Holland we have a Queen and all that as well.
Imo it gives stature to a country to have a King/Queen, impresses foreign countries and shit.
I don't mind having them around, even if they cost a lot of public money.
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HAHAHA...
Actually I am Canadian and am part of the commonwealth countries ... :P
I live very close to michigan USA.... I can see the USA from my front porch, I do not go over there.... Hate it.... :P
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I like them. Makes us British.
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I totally agree Limitless.
Lets admit that most of americas history comes from us anyway.
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I totally agree Limitless.
Lets admit that most of americas history comes from us anyway.
Yeah, and the basis of their legal system, etc etc..... Not like we didn't give them much or anything. And look at American politics anyway....not like there isn't some dynasties there...
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Couldn't care less about the royals themselves.. but considering how fucking wrecked I am right now doing lines of m1 as the prelash for what is going to be a 200mg mdma BEAST of a session with some fit as fuck girls.. I FUCKING LOVE THE ROYALS
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I don't know much about the British royals but here in Holland we have a Queen and all that as well.
Imo it gives stature to a country to have a King/Queen, impresses foreign countries and shit.
I don't mind having them around, even if they cost a lot of public money.
Thats a good little bitch. Keep paying those high taxes so a bunch of people lucky enough to pop out of the right vagina can live high on the hog.
I was watching FOX today ( i know, i do it for the entertainment value) They were very bubbly on QE and her whold 60 years of throneship. They had very little to list as far as real accomplishments. Did you know that up until a few years ago they had servants who would wipe their ass. Seriously, that's the internet rumor, and if its on the nets, it must be true.
Either way, you pay for these fucks to live a far better life than you ever will. And they live off the interest on wealth stolen from your ancestors living under oppression.
All Hail the Queen!
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i thought this was going to be a topic about baseball
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AndrewBud, i am guessing your american. What a typicall american response.
It's like when you argue with a yank about the war, all they can say is "if it wasnt for us you would have no chance"
Yeah but then you just reference Vietnam, Iraq part 2, Afghanistan and they shut up. ;)
At least when we had the Empire we could win wars.... We battered the Chinese and forced them to smoke our opium....now the Americans need them to bail out when they can't balance their cheque books. THAAAAT'S IRONY!
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In the UK, it costs only 1 dollar per person per year to support the royal family. I don't mind sacrificing 1 dollar a year to maintain such an institution. I don't really care for the present royal family, but I don't reject an institution simply because its present occupants are unequal to it, if the institution itself is of any value.
I favour royalty in general, as a principle and an historically valuable institution, even though I have some reservations about the House of Windsor in particular.
The British royalty has been a joke since the death of Charles I.
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I don't mind having them around, even if they cost a lot of public money.
In the UK, it costs only 1 dollar per person per year to support the royal family. I don't mind sacrificing 1 dollar a year to maintain such an institution.
Exactly, and with the amount of charity work they do and the tourism they bring in. Ain't exactly like you aren't getting your monies worth.
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yeah, I didn't think it cost the public much money. They are independently wealthy and have their own streams on income. The titles may give privileges, but since they are no longer a governing monarch they no longer have access to the public funds. I am an American and could be wrong because I keep up with them as much as I would any celebrity. But don't be fooled. The American public seems to be enamored with almost anything that deals with Royalty or celebrities.
To the rest the folks that share American continent. When I refer to US citizens as Americans I haven't forgot that you are Americans as well it is just easier to write it this way.
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Absolutely true limitless.
When you hear a yank say "we helped you win the war", just refer to the fact that only in the last ten years did we pay off the interest of that so called help. And anyways, they only decided to get "involved" when Pearl Harbour got hit.
Sure they did some valiant things, but to say they ended the war is just utter bullshit.
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Absolutely true limitless.
When you hear a yank say "we helped you win the war", just refer to the fact that only in the last ten years did we pay off the interest of that so called help. And anyways, they only decided to get "involved" when Pearl Harbour got hit.
Sure they did some valiant things, but to say they ended the war is just utter bullshit.
Yeah and on top of that, we won the battle of Britain, we kicked ass in Africa and it was a 50-50 split the rest of the way.
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Parasitic shit
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Parasitic shit???
If you are referring to the royals you clearly havent been following the thread, or done any of your own research.
Please, speak your mind and explain your answer.
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Prince Philip is worth the money alone, he's an endless source of amusement!!
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Prince Philip is worth the money alone, he's an endless source of amusement!!
Did you hear about Russel Howard talk about his latest faux pas on Good News? Funny as fuck!
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Absolutely true limitless.
When you hear a yank say "we helped you win the war", just refer to the fact that only in the last ten years did we pay off the interest of that so called help. And anyways, they only decided to get "involved" when Pearl Harbour got hit.
Sure they did some valiant things, but to say they ended the war is just utter bullshit.
Yeah and on top of that, we won the battle of Britain, we kicked ass in Africa and it was a 50-50 split the rest of the way.
At the risk of sounding conceited, the German defeat was almost certainly a foregone conclusion. America's involvement as with WW1 certainly brought the war to a more speedy close but Hitler had tried to do too much too soon and...
Damn, Godwin's rule. End of thread! :-D
V.
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Absolutely true limitless.
When you hear a yank say "we helped you win the war", just refer to the fact that only in the last ten years did we pay off the interest of that so called help. And anyways, they only decided to get "involved" when Pearl Harbour got hit.
Sure they did some valiant things, but to say they ended the war is just utter bullshit.
Yeah and on top of that, we won the battle of Britain, we kicked ass in Africa and it was a 50-50 split the rest of the way.
At the risk of sounding conceited, the German defeat was almost certainly a foregone conclusion. America's involvement as with WW1 certainly brought the war to a more speedy close but Hitler had tried to do too much too soon and...
Damn, Godwin's rule. End of thread! :-D
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Well that just means that we're even better than that then! Make it 75-25.... :P
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Am not from the UK, however I do feel that the Royals do bring a pretty good sense of nationalistic pride, where countries like the U.S. really struggle to find anything to base their pride on, like their army, miley cyrus or OBAMURRRR, in the UK at least while everyone still can bitch and moan over politicians that come and go, that old bitch is still sitting there not only raking in millions for tourism but acting as a figurehead for good ol English pride.
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Am not from the UK, however I do feel that the Royals do bring a pretty good sense of nationalistic pride, where countries like the U.S. really struggle to find anything to base their pride on, like their army, miley cyrus or OBAMURRRR, in the UK at least while everyone still can bitch and moan over politicians that come and go, that old bitch is still sitting there not only raking in millions for tourism but acting as a figurehead for good ol English pride.
Don't forgot you've also got Justin Beiber 8)
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Am not from the UK, however I do feel that the Royals do bring a pretty good sense of nationalistic pride, where countries like the U.S. really struggle to find anything to base their pride on, like their army, miley cyrus or OBAMURRRR, in the UK at least while everyone still can bitch and moan over politicians that come and go, that old bitch is still sitting there not only raking in millions for tourism but acting as a figurehead for good ol English pride.
Don't forgot you've also got Justin Beiber 8)
And Britney Spears!
On another note does anyone think it would just be magical to get a blowjob from Pippa Middleton? I can imagine her being pretty damn good to be honest.
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Am not from the UK, however I do feel that the Royals do bring a pretty good sense of nationalistic pride, where countries like the U.S. really struggle to find anything to base their pride on, like their army, miley cyrus or OBAMURRRR, in the UK at least while everyone still can bitch and moan over politicians that come and go, that old bitch is still sitting there not only raking in millions for tourism but acting as a figurehead for good ol English pride.
Don't forgot you've also got Justin Beiber 8)
And Britney Spears!
On another note does anyone think it would just be magical to get a blowjob from Pippa Middleton? I can imagine her being pretty damn good to be honest.
I can confirm she is infact very good 8)
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Am not from the UK, however I do feel that the Royals do bring a pretty good sense of nationalistic pride, where countries like the U.S. really struggle to find anything to base their pride on, like their army, miley cyrus or OBAMURRRR, in the UK at least while everyone still can bitch and moan over politicians that come and go, that old bitch is still sitting there not only raking in millions for tourism but acting as a figurehead for good ol English pride.
Don't forgot you've also got Justin Beiber 8)
And Britney Spears!
On another note does anyone think it would just be magical to get a blowjob from Pippa Middleton? I can imagine her being pretty damn good to be honest.
I can confirm she is infact very good 8)
Kudos Japan....kudos.
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I am not a fan of royalty, this is just because of where it all stemmed from back in medieval times. King appointed by god, lol.
I am grateful they do not have the divine right anymore!
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God?!?
God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us:
God save the Queen.
O Lord, our God, arise,
Scatter her enemies,
And make them fall.
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix,
God save us all.
Thy choicest gifts in store,
On her be pleased to pour;
Long may she reign:
May she defend our laws,
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice
God save the Queen!
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God?!?
God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us:
God save the Queen.
O Lord, our God, arise,
Scatter her enemies,
And make them fall.
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix,
God save us all.
Thy choicest gifts in store,
On her be pleased to pour;
Long may she reign:
May she defend our laws,
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice
God save the Queen!
Damn straight.
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O Flouer o Scotland,
Whan will we see
Yer like again,
That focht an dee'd for,
Yer wee bit Hill an Glen,
An stuid agin him,
Prood Edward's Airmy,
An sent him hamewart,
Tae think again.
The Hills are bare nou,
An Autumn leafs
Lig thick an still,
O'er laund that 's lost nou,
That yon sae liefly huild,
That stuid agin him,
Prood Edward's Airmy,
An sent him hamewart,
Tae think again.
Thae days 's are gone nou,
An in the past
Thay maun remain,
But we can still rise nou,
An be the nation again,
That stuid agin him,
Prood Edward's Airmy,
An sent him hamewart,
Tae think again.
O Flouer o Scotland,
Whan will we see
Yer like again,
That focht an dee'd for,
Yer wee bit Hill an Glen,
An stuid agin him,
Prood Edward's Airmy,
An sent him hamewart,
Tae think again.
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O Flouer o Scotland,
Whan will we see
Yer like again,
That focht an dee'd for,
Yer wee bit Hill an Glen,
An stuid agin him,
Prood Edward's Airmy,
An sent him hamewart,
Tae think again.
The Hills are bare nou,
An Autumn leafs
Lig thick an still,
O'er laund that 's lost nou,
That yon sae liefly huild,
That stuid agin him,
Prood Edward's Airmy,
An sent him hamewart,
Tae think again.
Thae days 's are gone nou,
An in the past
Thay maun remain,
But we can still rise nou,
An be the nation again,
That stuid agin him,
Prood Edward's Airmy,
An sent him hamewart,
Tae think again.
O Flouer o Scotland,
Whan will we see
Yer like again,
That focht an dee'd for,
Yer wee bit Hill an Glen,
An stuid agin him,
Prood Edward's Airmy,
An sent him hamewart,
Tae think again.
LOL fuck Scotland. Anywhere that shooting Heroin is considered a national sport isn't on my Christmas card list.
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Nice racist slander coming from a forum MOD, your a real class act Limetless!
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Nice racist slander coming from a forum MOD, your a real class act Limetless!
Don't be so bloody po-faced, it was a joke. And how was it in any way racist? Fucking hell being Scottish isn't a "race", it's a culture. FML.
Also Scotland has a massive Heroin problem so even if it was a joke...isn't exactly an inaccurate one. Get a sense of humour.
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oh oh, i feel a stripeing coming on!
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oh oh, i feel a stripeing coming on!
Lol, cute. Are you actually even from Scotland?
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GreenGiant: ? Maybe gay?
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oh oh, i feel a stripeing coming on!
Lol, cute. Are you actually even from Scotland?
Are you actually even a gangster, or are you just a wannabe who thinks he's gangster No1?
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oh oh, i feel a stripeing coming on!
Lol, cute. Are you actually even from Scotland?
Are you actually even a gangster, or are you just a wannabe who thinks he's gangster No1?
This doesn't answer my original question my friend... Are you pissed because you are from Scotland or are you pissed because you are being a facetious ass-hat who got a little bit confused on the definition of racism is and got corrected? Or maybe you are just pissed because you put your tampon in wrong this morning and it's given you thrush?
Either way being cute and answering a question with a question doesn't actually answer the original question and wont get you anywhere. ;)
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Oh oh here comes the infamous striping from the cyber gangster number 1, what can i say I say I am shitting it!
Yes I am fucking Scottish and yes that is why I take offense to you saying "fuck Scotland" I also take offense to your ability to joke about heroin use being a national sport. People dying is not a fucking joke you jumped up narcissistic little prepubescent rodent!
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Oh oh here comes the infamous striping from the cyber gangster number 1, what can i say I say I am shitting it!
Yes I am fucking Scottish and yes that is why I take offense to you saying "fuck Scotland" I also take offense to your ability to joke about heroin use being a national sport. People dying is not a fucking joke you jumped up narcissistic little prepubescent rodent!
If it makes any difference, I thought Braveheart was a great film.
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Oh oh here comes the infamous striping from the cyber gangster number 1, what can i say I say I am shitting it!
Yes I am fucking Scottish and yes that is why I take offense to you saying "fuck Scotland" I also take offense to your ability to joke about heroin use being a national sport. People dying is not a fucking joke you jumped up narcissistic little prepubescent rodent!
If it makes any difference, I thought Braveheart was a great film.
Another historically accurate film directed by Mel Gibson, what would we do without him?!?
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Oh oh here comes the infamous striping from the cyber gangster number 1, what can i say I say I am shitting it!
Yes I am fucking Scottish and yes that is why I take offense to you saying "fuck Scotland" I also take offense to your ability to joke about heroin use being a national sport. People dying is not a fucking joke you jumped up narcissistic little prepubescent rodent!
Lol ah bring out the fire GG, kudos! You realise I was joking, maybe removing your head from up your ass you may have clocked that. If you can't take a bit of banter and then feel the need to bring out the race card (badly misused as it was, bad form there my friend) then really, you are a bit pathetic. And the comment about Heroin isn't exactly a lie is it? The addict rates north of the border aren't exactly record breaking are they (unless you are counting how many you can get to). Jesus Christ if you made a joke about England I wouldn't jump down your throat, I'd probably think it was funny. You need to get a sense of humour son and not take life so seriously. Although with Alex Salmond telling you what to think I'm not really too surprised to be honest. ;)
Oh and if we are talking about Braveheart you should watch these in order GG, you'll realize that Wallace was a gay pedophile -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybQCNb4AuW4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuLSoyn-OBM&feature=relmfu
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Very nice, inaccurate ramblings of a shite comedian! Darn that proves Wallace was a gay pedophile, not that i really give a shit.
It would be alright if what you said was at all funny, but joking about heroin use is just distasteful and shows the kind of mentality you have, you really are a narcissistic little wannabe gangster.
Good luck to you sprog, come back when you grow some pubes
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Very nice, inaccurate ramblings of a shite comedian! Darn that proves Wallace was a gay pedophile, not that i really give a shit.
It would be alright if what you said was at all funny, but joking about heroin use is just distasteful and shows the kind of mentality you have, you really are a narcissistic little wannabe gangster.
Good luck to you sprog, come back when you grow some pubes
Lol again you need to get a sense of humour son. You need to realise that although you Scots like to get jumped up with your nationalistic tendencies us English tend not to give a shit. Our tax pays for your NHS, Students and all sorts of other shit that you can't be arsed to sort your economy out enough to pay for yourself so if we want to take some pot shots at you, then we have paid for the privilege...quite literally.
And I don't need the luck kiddo, you do, you're the one who is going to suffer if Scotland goes independent and instantly turns into a third world country. I suspect you will want to move south for the economic winter. ;)
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Oh oh here comes the infamous striping from the cyber gangster number 1, what can i say I say I am shitting it!
Yes I am fucking Scottish and yes that is why I take offense to you saying "fuck Scotland" I also take offense to your ability to joke about heroin use being a national sport. People dying is not a fucking joke you jumped up narcissistic little prepubescent rodent!
If it makes any difference, I thought Braveheart was a great film.
Another historically accurate film directed by Mel Gibson, what would we do without him?!?
I wasn't even being sarcastic, I genuinely did think it was a great film.
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Oh oh here comes the infamous striping from the cyber gangster number 1, what can i say I say I am shitting it!
Yes I am fucking Scottish and yes that is why I take offense to you saying "fuck Scotland" I also take offense to your ability to joke about heroin use being a national sport. People dying is not a fucking joke you jumped up narcissistic little prepubescent rodent!
If it makes any difference, I thought Braveheart was a great film.
Another historically accurate film directed by Mel Gibson, what would we do without him?!?
I wasn't even being sarcastic, I genuinely did think it was a great film.
To be honest it was a not bad Hollywood film, inaccurate yes, but mildly entertaining to say the least. Gibbson just loves creating historically inaccurate films for the sake of entertainment purposes, he makes history more cinematically compelling
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And I don't need the luck kiddo, you do, you're the one who is going to suffer if Scotland goes independent and instantly turns into a third world country. I suspect you will want to move south for the economic winter. ;)
Quite the opposite really, Scotland becoming independent will only strengthen our economy, especially was tax arrangments have been put in place which will draw many many business to move from the really expensive London, to the more moderately expensive Edinburgh ;)
The north sea holds most of the UK oil, at the moment this is under UK control, but when Scotland goes independent those oil wells are in Scottish waters in the north sea! Hence why Aberdeen(the oil capital) being the second most expensive city in the UK to live, with house prices kicking the ass out of most areas in London.
I am quite looking forward to Scotland's independence, not that i plan on living in the UK by 2014. (is it?)
edit: I also forgot to mention the new oil that has been discovered off the coast of Shetland, again in Scottish waters, current evaluations are around 20 years worth of oil to be pumped, although evaluations are still on going and should be complete a years or so after independence i believe, Pretty sure Scotland will be economically sound!
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And I don't need the luck kiddo, you do, you're the one who is going to suffer if Scotland goes independent and instantly turns into a third world country. I suspect you will want to move south for the economic winter. ;)
Quite the opposite really, Scotland becoming independent will only strengthen our economy, especially was tax arrangments have been put in place which will draw many many business to move from the really expensive London, to the more moderately expensive Edinburgh ;)
The north sea holds most of the UK oil, at the moment this is under UK control, but when Scotland goes independent those oil wells are in Scottish waters in the north sea! Hence why Aberdeen(the oil capital) being the second most expensive city in the UK to live, with house prices kicking the ass out of most areas in London.
I am quite looking forward to Scotland's independence, not that i plan on living in the UK by 2014. (is it?)
LOL the fact you think the North Sea Oil will be Scotland's economic savior is such a typically naive Scottish perception. You really should check your figures. And the U.K doesn't even need the North Sea wells anyway because of the black gold mine that lies just off the coast of the Falklands anyway which as yet remains untouched and we don't even have to share. Relying on the deposits in the North Sea reserves isn't exactly planning for the nations future. It's just resting on your laurels. And lol, who gives a fuck about the house prices in Aberdeen? Fuck-a-doodle-doo, it takes more than property market in 1 city. London is the financial center of EUROPE. Edinburgh has what that London doesn't have? Apart from more haggis and junkies per capita?
If Scotland was so well off Alex Salmond wouldn't be trying to ensure that his dirty, sweaty, greasy, grubby-lying-shister hand is still in the U.K tax pot after you finally detach yourselves from us. Unless he is a thief as well as a fantasist/liar about Scotlands capability to be on it's own. You'll have an economic meltdown within the first decade and either be begging to come back into the fold or if not that you will definitely have the IMF's phone number saved in your national phonebook. Either way, it's not a promising forecast to say the least.
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I never thought the Royals were very good. But they did do pretty decent there for a couple years a while back, didn't they even make it to the world series once?
I haven't been following baseball as much as I used to.
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Limetless I really don't need to be taking economics lectures from someone who is meant to be qualified in this field, yet is blind enough to invest money in facebook when it went public. How much did you loose after they dropped $10 a piece?
Trust me you are not the only one with a degree, only difference I didn't have to pay for mine!
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Limetless I really don't need to be taking economics lectures from someone who is meant to be qualified in this field, yet is blind enough to invest money in facebook when it went public. How much did you loose after they dropped $10 a piece?
Trust me you are not the only one with a degree, only difference I didn't have to pay for mine!
I didn't lose anything, I broke even numb-nuts. Clearly you do because you think that NSO and a few bits of brick and mortar in Aberdeen is going to keep you afloat. How uninformed are you?
And yeah you probably didn't, you just sucked the blood from the English and Welsh tax payers to get it you moocher!
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On the whole Scottish economy point.. I do have to echo this
If Scotland was going to be so well off due to influx of new business/oil reserves.. why does Salmond still want to be taking in UK mainland tax even after independence?
I mean, doesn't that just say it all?
Also the house prices in London are pretty irrelevant to be honest. I think it has a lot more to do with the LSE/FTSE100 and the what is it, roughly up to nearly 2 TRILLION pound market cap that they currently have?
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On the whole Scottish economy point.. I do have to echo this
If Scotland was going to be so well off due to influx of new business/oil reserves.. why does Salmond still want to be taking in UK mainland tax even after independence?
I mean, doesn't that just say it all?
Also the house prices in London are pretty irrelevant to be honest. I think it has a lot more to do with the LSE...
There wont be that big of an influx of business to Scotland anyway because Salmond will have to have high taxes because of the current economic sitch anyway and on top of that, why would any business in London move to Edinburgh when London is the center of European finance, their potential client base is far larger, more businesses are in London for them to to utilize if they need outside/outsourcing services, transport is easier, there is more money spent on London by the government and the list goes on and on.
The idea that Scotland can be self sufficient is laughable at best and suicidally foolish at best. The problem is if that the Scots are moronic enough to think they can make it on their own they are going to end up asking us for bail outs which we don't need at the moment. If we do end up giving them the funds as well as the IMF (which Salmond would obviously go to too because he's a greedy shister) then not only are they going to fuck themselves but they will try and drag us into their abyss too.
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Psilocybin, that would be a nice picture if the royals went stateside to watch a game!
For a long time the royals were held in a bad light. Think of all the shit the Queen had to go through after Diana died. It was commented that she never made any appearances after the incident, but people forget she had to look after Dianas kids.
The show of crowds over the last few days just goes to show how popular they have become again. Probably more so than ever.
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I'm just surprised people actually celebrate tyranny.
:D
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Enjoy...
http://youtu.be/7OK-fuAlJIE
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mito, its hardly tyranny mate.
The royals get something like 75pence per person per year so they are hardly scroungers.
They dont even get involved in any kind of governmental projects.
What they do however is tons of charity work. Just look at what princess Di did back in her day. That is just a glimpse of how much they help people out in poorer parts of the world.
If you want tyranny, look at the reign of Geroge W Bush or geroge junior. Those men had power like nothing i have ever known in my lifetime.
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Yeah I mean if you balance 75p per person and then compare it to the amount of jobs they create and the amount of funds they do raise for charity through organisations like the Prince's Trust and other things like that it easily balances out. Also Prince Andrew does a lot for business relations in other countries by repping U.K companies and things like that.
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Yeah I mean if you balance 75p per person and then compare it to the amount of jobs they create and the amount of funds they do raise for charity through organisations like the Prince's Trust and other things like that it easily balances out. Also Prince Andrew does a lot for business relations in other countries by repping U.K companies and things like that.
Well said Lim, you took the words out of my mouth.
Prince Andrew has benefited us enormously in negotiating with countried like Saudi Arabia and Qatar specifically because he is a Royal and members of the Nobility there prefer to deal with him than some nobody pen pusher (sorry Foreign Office).
I have yet to see any guarantee that going down the Republic route is a guarantee of liberty and democracy - China, North Korea, Cuba and Russia are all Republics and are Dictatorships. Spain, the Netherlands, Britain and Norway are all monarchies and yet come in the top 10 on the Human Rights index.
V.
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Yeah I mean if you balance 75p per person and then compare it to the amount of jobs they create and the amount of funds they do raise for charity through organisations like the Prince's Trust and other things like that it easily balances out. Also Prince Andrew does a lot for business relations in other countries by repping U.K companies and things like that.
Well said Lim, you took the words out of my mouth.
Prince Andrew has benefited us enormously in negotiating with countried like Saudi Arabia and Qatar specifically because he is a Royal and members of the Nobility there prefer to deal with him than some nobody pen pusher (sorry Foreign Office).
I have yet to see any guarantee that going down the Republic route is a guarantee of liberty and democracy - China, North Korea, Cuba and Russia are all Republics and are Dictatorships. Spain, the Netherlands, Britain and Norway are all monarchies and yet come in the top 10 on the Human Rights index.
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Yeah exactly. If you are dealing with countries like the Arab Kingdoms or places that have Monarchies with quite a bit of power a lot of the time sending people that aren't on their level status-wise to deal with them is just a bad move. If you think about it why would the King or Prince of Saudi Arabia or someone in their family feel the need to take someone from the Foreign Office (or the U.S equivalent or any other equivalent from anywhere) seriously? They are used to being held in awe by their own people so some randomer from Birmingham who got a degree in Foreign Relations isn't going to force them to do anything they don't wana do lol. Sending in Prince Andrew works because people like that appreciate the history/bloodline they represent because that's important to them culturally and they respect it. Doing it that way you are meeting them on their own terms and then you are more likely to get shit done.
And if you think about it Britain basically IS a republic, but we just get the best of both worlds. I was watching David Starkey talk about this earlier on ITV (for any Brit who was watching) and I basically agreed with what he was saying. Arguing for a republic is kind of pointless now because we have it anyway, we just have the bonus of having a Queen as well and I tell ya what, I'd rather have her reppin' for us that Tony Blair who was a shister, Gorden Brown who was the troll under the bridge with 1 eye and David Cameron who I like a bit but he is still a bit shit. What we need is Liz with the crown, Boris as PM and then the world would be our lobster.
That's what I'm sayin.
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Yeah I mean if you balance 75p per person and then compare it to the amount of jobs they create and the amount of funds they do raise for charity through organisations like the Prince's Trust and other things like that it easily balances out. Also Prince Andrew does a lot for business relations in other countries by repping U.K companies and things like that.
Well said Lim, you took the words out of my mouth.
Prince Andrew has benefited us enormously in negotiating with countried like Saudi Arabia and Qatar specifically because he is a Royal and members of the Nobility there prefer to deal with him than some nobody pen pusher (sorry Foreign Office).
I have yet to see any guarantee that going down the Republic route is a guarantee of liberty and democracy - China, North Korea, Cuba and Russia are all Republics and are Dictatorships. Spain, the Netherlands, Britain and Norway are all monarchies and yet come in the top 10 on the Human Rights index.
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Yeah exactly. If you are dealing with countries like the Arab Kingdoms or places that have Monarchies with quite a bit of power a lot of the time sending people that aren't on their level status-wise to deal with them is just a bad move. If you think about it why would the King or Prince of Saudi Arabia or someone in their family feel the need to take someone from the Foreign Office (or the U.S equivalent or any other equivalent from anywhere) seriously? They are used to being held in awe by their own people so some randomer from Birmingham who got a degree in Foreign Relations isn't going to force them to do anything they don't wana do lol. Sending in Prince Andrew works because people like that appreciate the history/bloodline they represent because that's important to them culturally and they respect it. Doing it that way you are meeting them on their own terms and then you are more likely to get shit done.
And if you think about it Britain basically IS a republic, but we just get the best of both worlds. I was watching David Starkey talk about this earlier on ITV (for any Brit who was watching) and I basically agreed with what he was saying. Arguing for a republic is kind of pointless now because we have it anyway, we just have the bonus of having a Queen as well and I tell ya what, I'd rather have her reppin' for us that Tony Blair who was a shister, Gorden Brown who was the troll under the bridge with 1 eye and David Cameron who I like a bit but he is still a bit shit. What we need is Liz with the crown, Boris as PM and then the world would be our lobster.
That's what I'm sayin.
The queen can actually influence who can be prime minister. Not sure if its ever happened in my lifetime tho. The crown actually gives government its powers, why else would parliamentarians, police, army swear and many others an oath of allegiance to the queen?
Here is what police must swear:
I Frodo Baggins of The Shire do solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm that I will well and truly serve the Queen in the office of constable, with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, upholding fundamental human rights and according equal respect to all people; and that I will, to the best of my power, cause the peace to be kept and preserved and prevent all offences against people and property; and that while I continue to hold the said office I will, to the best of my skill and knowledge, discharge all the duties thereof faithfully according to law
For me the royals are essentially benefit scrounging, parasitic gangsters who stole the country from your ancestors by means of murder, torture and other such pleasantries. They are relatively benign compared to their predecessors but I don't see how that validates their position, if I've been sat on your couch for 4 days playing on your xbox knowing i've outstayed my welcome it doesn't give me any valid claim to your property, even if i sit there for 200 years. People have forgotten history.
The claim that the monarch costs each person 75p is propaganda released from the palace, they arrive at this figure by dividing a laughably modest sum by every person in the country including children (not every tax payer - way to massage figures). In any case, they have more than enough personal wealth to be financially self sufficient for many generations, yet they continue to dip into the public purse to maintain their highly extravagant lifestyles.
Are they really so good for trade? Prince Andrew is 'trade ambassador' but what has he actually done that is of any magnitude to the UK economy? I don't buy the stuff about Saudi kings and such wanting to deal with our 'royalty', they are businessmen, in it for money, they want to deal with real competent British businessmen with earned credibility, not some dude with a handout title... in any case Andrew's just one man if he lost his royal status hes still got his hookups. The city brings many billions of quids worth of business into the UK each month, removing the royals would be like taking a grain of sand away from a beach.
So the charity work some of them do is positive, but they do not need to be royals to do it. Pretty sure they're all high profile enough to continue pimping the charity side of things, they certainly have enough money. The cynic in me tends top believe that the charity work is i nice little bone to throw the peasants in order to try and justify their pointless leeching of our money.
A lot of people claim they are good for tourism too but people come to see the architecture and to see London, pretty sure most people realise that they are not going to see the Queen.
And all the fucking bears that have to die for those stupid hats!!!!!! :-(
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+1 to the above! If i had karma mate i would send it your way ;D
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The Saudi royal (fundamentalist dictatorship) argument if anything should highlight how immoral they are to begin with by interacting with them at all.
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The Saudi royal (fundamentalist dictatorship) argument if anything should highlight how immoral they are to begin with by interacting with them at all.
Talking about morals when you are dealing with international politics is too idealistic IMO. The Saudis have oil, the west needs oil and runs our world on oil, therefore EVERYONE and not just the British royal family is going to speak to them. The U.S certainly do. It means absolutely nothing what kind of system they rule under if it has something the west wants. It's just not realistic to play the moral card when it comes to international politics, it's all about what you want and what you need.
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+1 to the above! If i had karma mate i would send it your way ;D
I've given it to him on your behalf :D
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The Saudi royal (fundamentalist dictatorship) argument if anything should highlight how immoral they are to begin with by interacting with them at all.
Talking about morals when you are dealing with international politics is too idealistic IMO. The Saudis have oil, the west needs oil and runs our world on oil, therefore EVERYONE and not just the British royal family is going to speak to them. The U.S certainly do. It means absolutely nothing what kind of system they rule under if it has something the west wants. It's just not realistic to play the moral card when it comes to international politics, it's all about what you want and what you need.
It means absolutely nothing to centers of power, like nation states, to the rest of us, the population, who operate as human beings with moral back bones, it means a lot when our government and friends back major international crimes. If morals and ethics are removed from geo-political discussion then people don't have a leg to stand on when they cry about terrorism aimed our way.
The royal family are individuals who have to be accountable for their decisions. If they decide to get photo ops and handshakes with well known dictators they should be held accountable at a philosophical level. Obviously not at a practical level because our crimes are always justified and the ICJ is really only used to prosecute obscure 1990s mass murders from the Balkans and Africa.
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I am sorry but look at Norway, Sweden and Finland. They have no need to deal with Saudi on the scale that the US or UK do.
Saudi does not even have an embassy in Norway, the closest is in Stockholm. There are over 2000 Muslims living in Norway yet less than 100 Norwegians living in Saudi according to the last figures published. Pretty strange the Norwegians have an embassy in Saudi for 100 residents, yet saudi is not allowed an embassy in Norway for it's 2000+ residents.
The fact Norway denied Saudi's application to build a giant mosque, unless Saudi reviewed it being a criminal offense to start a christian community over there, is just a bigger fuck you to the Arabs.
What do we learn form the Norwegians? They are not afraid to stick it to Saudi!
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The Saudi royal (fundamentalist dictatorship) argument if anything should highlight how immoral they are to begin with by interacting with them at all.
Talking about morals when you are dealing with international politics is too idealistic IMO. The Saudis have oil, the west needs oil and runs our world on oil, therefore EVERYONE and not just the British royal family is going to speak to them. The U.S certainly do. It means absolutely nothing what kind of system they rule under if it has something the west wants. It's just not realistic to play the moral card when it comes to international politics, it's all about what you want and what you need.
It means absolutely nothing to centers of power, like nation states, to the rest of us, the population, who operate as human beings with moral back bones, it means a lot when our government and friends back major international crimes. If morals and ethics are removed from geo-political discussion then people don't have a leg to stand on when they cry about terrorism aimed our way.
The royal family are individuals who have to be accountable for their decisions. If they decide to get photo ops and handshakes with well known dictators they should be held accountable at a philosophical level. Obviously not at a practical level because our crimes are always justified and the ICJ is really only used to prosecute obscure 1990s mass murders from the Balkans and Africa.
Don't get me wrong I agree with what you are saying and your moral stance. I am just take a pragmatic view on how the world works and the U.S and U.K (or others) wont change because it doesn't serve their best interest to do so and that wont change for quite a while. It's just how it is. :-\
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Limitless, extra karma from me bro.
P.S new episode of the big bang theory yay!