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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: ozzybattla on May 19, 2012, 02:27 pm
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Has anyone here ever actually seen a controlled delivery or have knowledge of how they work? I'm thinking more about Australia because I'm from down under.
I've seen it on TV when they get people signing to accept delivery of whole trucks full of stuff, or a shipping container or something that they've already x-rayed, but never for something small enough to fit in a letterbox. It always seems to me to be part of a larger operation with surveillance, etc. Sometimes they replace most of the drugs/explosives with something inert.
Even on the Customs shows I've seen on TV, they always seem to already have knowledge that there is something inside the package before they open it. I guess from sniffer dogs or a lucky x-ray.
I honestly can't imagine them doing a controlled delivery for an envelope, where you don't even have to sign for it.
What do you guys think? :-\
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Na mate u will only get a love letter for personal amount.
TheY will seize and prob flag the address and watch for more packages.
Highly doubt they will do controlled delivery for personal amount.
Keep it small and just wait for packages to come in before ordering more.
You'll be right
If u want bigger use a letter box not associated to u
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I've read a lot of topics here (I say a lot, but it is not a common thing) where people will either get a call or a knock on the door with policemen simply 'enquiring' about the post. And to be honest, I think that's all the police would do for a personal amount. What's the point in funding a controlled delivery (imagine the planning and excision of that sort of thing) for £40s worth of narcotics? Instead they'd want to speak to you to try and see where you got it from. Your options here are vast, the main thing is not giving away information, even if they say they 'know' about the drugs. In this case, ask if you are under arrest. If you are, ask for a Lawyer. You are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
If you're not buying bulk quantities, you needn't worry so much. If you're not buying 'hard' drugs. You've even less to worry about. However if you combine these two things, you're going to need to really ramp up your security. There are plenty of tutorials on here, just hit the search bar at the top.
The main thing to ease your mind: Think of the sheer volume of mail coming into and out of the country. Things will automatically be scanned, and if they pull up certain criteria over x-ray they are passed on to a secondary screening. This could involve sniffer dogs, or needle probes. Certain countries are prioritised over others (NL, countries with terrorism concerns).
If I were Australian I'd be buying from the UK. I would imagine a lot of post comes from relatives and friends that are seperated, and the right vendor would be able to ship it in a way that would never be found out.
What's your drug of choice dude? I'll try recommending some vendors if we share similar habits.
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I'm not worried about them coming to my door, as it's not coming to my home address. I'm worried about them getting me at the letterbox, or following me from the letterbox and getting me later.
I've already chosen a vendor for my molly. Personal use here is less than a gram, I'm getting more than that, but it is actually for personal use. I must be a big user, despite never having used any in the past 10 years. Just stocking up a bit so I don't have to go through this stress again.
But this thread is not really about me, just curious if anyone has any inside info on how things work.
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The consequences would be the same, except the police would have put more funding into staking out the letterbox and therefore be looking for a better outcome, law enforcement is a business like any other, they just work with public funding and their 'product' is meeting and exceeding certain quotas. You can usually correlate LE interest and judicial ramifications directly to the amount you are found (or accused to be found) with.
One thing to consider is convenience of buying bulk vs legal consequences. And also how much you are realistically going to use.
"Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can." - Raoul Duke.
Just searching 'controlled delivery' top right pulls up a fair few interesting reads whilst you wait for someone with experience.
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I didn't have a controlled delivery, but I'm sure it would've been if I had waited.
I was heading to class one morning and decided to pick up a package with some rc. I and the vendor didn't consider the positional isomer law established by the DEA and thought it would be safe. Apparently someone told on me when they got busted how the thing operated(I know, stupid. I've learned my lesson with "letting people in"). Anyhow, I went to pick it up since the DCN said it was at the USPS. I get there and was told it wasn't there. It was. I came back after double checking and going to class to be questioned by local PD. They in fact opened my mail without a Postal Inspector. I was interrogated in which I replied I had nop idea what the package was. I told them I received a notice to pick up or redelivery.
After a few months of being analyzed by the PI, they dropped the case. I guess it was because I was fully cooperative and didn't admit guilt. I got extremely lucky. The fact of the matter is they will do some dubious shit depending on the people or PO. Be careful and don't sign for shit!
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One thing to consider is convenience of buying bulk vs legal consequences. And also how much you are realistically going to use.
"Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can." - Raoul Duke.
Great advice there. I just got a bit carried away with the bargains available on SR. :-P
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in aus i think the chances of LE sitting on a letter box for anything under an ounce would be a complete waste of time and resources. my main concern for you would be 'if'' they did watch a box, and you picked up, then they nab you you while your walking away, its a commonwealth / federal crime to : receive mail under a false identity & to import illegal drugs, let alone under a false identity also.
though just stealing mail from someones box is a state crime, not commonwealth. so i guess one would say they were just stealing mail cause they were bored, but have no idea of the contents of the stolen mail.
however! fuck knows whats going on at the moment. maybe the AFP are gunning to find someone to make an example of., or is SR still just not worth it for them.
Yeah seems to me like it would be a waste of resources too for small amounts, but stranger things have happened... Eventually I'm sure LE will want to make an example of some poor small SR buyer, especially with all the media coverage.
I would imagine it might be harder to make a solid case against SR buyers as well, since there is no real proof of them actually buying anything or knowing the sellers at all, unless they could find your SR login on your computer, that is. Not like normal drug buying where they can get phone taps/photos/etc of the transactions being made. It's easy for a SR buyer to say they had no knowledge of why anything was sent to them. Hard to explain why you took mail from someone elses letterbox that just happened to contain drugs though, if they catch you in the act.
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Good stuff dondada.
V.
LE attempted a controlled delivery with me before im not gonna say what it was or the amount because i dont want to give myself away but it was a large amount of a schedule 1 drug. the package was over-nighted to me and it didnt show up the next day so i waited another day and it didnt show up so the next day i tracked it and it said it was delivered to another address in my city so i looked up the address and the street didnt even exist. so i counted it as a loss. 2 days later i get a voicemail out of nowhere from the "postal service" saying they misdelivered my package and it will be delivered today. i never have to sign for a package and the person i get it from makes sure of that well when the mail man came he asked for my signature. as soon as he said that i told him i wasnt expecting a package. you guys have no idea how hard he tried getting me to sign for this package but i refused to do it but be careful because they are smooth talkers i dont want to say too much more because i dont want to give myself away but everybody be careful.
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One thing to consider is convenience of buying bulk vs legal consequences. And also how much you are realistically going to use.
"Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can." - Raoul Duke.
Great advice there. I just got a bit carried away with the bargains available on SR. :-P
I thought you'd appreciate that. There's a rush associated with buying drugs on the internet. I'm sure it's not just me that feels it. The excitement of waiting for the package (and occasional stress) is more addictive and habit forming than the drugs I buy.
With MDMA as well, you have to obviously leave your self a refractory period to replenish serotonin supplies and resensitise the synapses. Ideally you should only be dosing once a month at minimum. A gram could give you 2-3 very enjoyable nights out over 2-3 months (depending on your tolerance and dosing habits). If you have 10g I think you're pretty much set for the year. That being said I know people personally and there are people on the forums that do it week in, week out. Expensive, and ultimately a waste.
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the ones i had seen footage of was a undercover doing the delivery, getting a signature for it, then they waited about 30 mins and knocked on the dudes door with a warrant. silly buggers had opened the goods.
i dont know if customs knew they had opened them or not.. it was for something like 2kg of heroin.
Exactly why you need to add "Return to Sender" on the package and hold it for a bit.
But honestly, the fact that you opened a package that is sent to your address doesn't really mean you know what was in the package or that you actually wanted it.
If you did go as far as opening the product and ignore the above, I'd at very least call the Post Office or Police Department.. but only for a couple seconds. As if to have an alibi that you opened the package and found drugs and were trying to contact one of them. But hey, that's just a tip. It sure would sound good in court though that you were trying to call the police to "report that you received drugs in the mail".
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Now, if they come in and find that you have just opened a package and consumed it (highly would advise against this) then you are probably in some trouble as it would be hard to talk your way out of that.
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the ones i had seen footage of was a undercover doing the delivery, getting a signature for it, then they waited about 30 mins and knocked on the dudes door with a warrant. silly buggers had opened the goods.
i dont know if customs knew they had opened them or not.. it was for something like 2kg of heroin.
Exactly why you need to add "Return to Sender" on the package and hold it for a bit.
But honestly, the fact that you opened a package that is sent to your address doesn't really mean you know what was in the package or that you actually wanted it.
If you did go as far as opening the product and ignore the above, I'd at very least call the Post Office or Police Department.. but only for a couple seconds. As if to have an alibi that you opened the package and found drugs and were trying to contact one of them. But hey, that's just a tip. It sure would sound good in court though that you were trying to call the police to "report that you received drugs in the mail".
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Now, if they come in and find that you have just opened a package and consumed it (highly would advise against this) then you are probably in some trouble as it would be hard to talk your way out of that.
Now way man, after a line of meth I could talk my way out of anythingb :o