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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: maynard on May 08, 2012, 06:19 pm
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Hello everyone,
Just a word to the wise on whom to be careful of. Recently TheRealUsDirect seems to have pull something shady and isn't responding to messages. Esgal, a reputed trustworthy vendor is TheRealUsDirect's partner. All of Esgal's recent feedback are from buyers who finalized early. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but just be very careful as there have been more than a couple of very trustworthy vendors who have recently gone rogue. FE is not worth the risk. It's an invitation to be scammed. Just be wary...
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shouldn't this be in the RUMOR section?...
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I think you are right Jones however it would also slot quite nicely in the "Stop using throw away accounts just because you don't have the balls to spread your conspiracy jizz from the account to be everybody's friend with" section too.
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I got 99 problems but that JOKE wasn't one of them.... LOL
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I got 99 problems but that JOKE wasn't one of them.... LOL
IN JONES WE TRUST! :P
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I think you are right Jones however it would also slot quite nicely in the "Stop using throw away accounts just because you don't have the balls to spread your conspiracy jizz from the account to be everybody's friend with" section too.
Great point! If you're going to talk shit, and spread rumors about 2 different vendors, at least be a man about it!
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I'm a newbie and I'm sorry if my post is in the wrong place. It is not a rumor, it is a warning. It is not talking shit, it's stating fact. Just check the feedback on TheRealUsDirect's home page. Esgal is admittedly his partner, as stated on his page. It is just a warning to anyone who FE's especially.
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Yeah exactly.
Let's play it out though and pull apart why even if you have the best intentions throwaway accounts are still an arse-bandit concept...
Even if you are trying to do people a favour or try and make people aware of something you shouldn't use a throwaway account because it has no credibility. Why would anyone listen to someone who pops up with often an issue-related name when it looks so SPANKINGLY obvious that they are either just trying to cause shit or have an agenda? They would not. Just use your real account if you aren't just trying to put your dick in a hornets nest because I doubt most people on here would care if you have an opinion on something, even if it turned out to be wrong. If you were wrong you can just put your hands up and say "My bad, sorry" and it's all done and most people would probably respect the fact you had the stones to say what you thought.
Look at how Holly jumped in on saying Tony was busted, prime example of someone who got it wrong but just came back and held his hands up.
With all that in mind how can you have any credibility when using a fake account? You can't.
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my account is real, I have no agenda, and I'm not seeking credibility. I'm a newbie who has joined SR at a very risky time, when reputable vendors are turning bad. I am watching and waiting and hope to find truly trustworthy vendors. But if there aren't any, how could this site be a success? If people keep getting ripped off, it's no good for anyone, especially the site. I just want to warn people from FE-ing because the vendor has a good rep. Especially when the feedback shown are from people who FE'ed. that's all. Peace to all.
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Yeah exactly.
Let's play it out though and pull apart why even if you have the best intentions throwaway accounts are still an arse-bandit concept...
Even if you are trying to do people a favour or try and make people aware of something you shouldn't use a throwaway account because it has no credibility. Why would anyone listen to someone who pops up with often an issue-related name when it looks so SPANKINGLY obvious that they are either just trying to cause shit or have an agenda? They would not. Just use your real account if you aren't just trying to put your dick in a hornets nest because I doubt most people on here would care if you have an opinion on something, even if it turned out to be wrong. If you were wrong you can just put your hands up and say "My bad, sorry" and it's all done and most people would probably respect the fact you had the stones to say what you thought.
Look at how Holly jumped in on saying Tony was busted, prime example of someone who got it wrong but just came back and held his hands up.
With all that in mind how can you have any credibility when using a fake account? You can't.
Well said Lim,
Frankly if I were working for LE I would create accounts like these to spread confusion and distrust amongst SR users - as long as we're second guessing ourselves we're divided and therefore less of a threat to them.
This is not to say we shouldn't take reasonable security precautions but we have an entire section of the forum devoted to just that.
V.
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Let's arse all the newbies ;D ;D ;D
No speaking seriosuly we can't listen to peoples here on the forum
with 3 or less post that are trying to giving advice on vendors ....
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Ok OP if you are a new guy then fair enough and to be fair after the first post you don't seem like a methed out conspiracy zealot so I will give you the benefit-of-the-doubt. BUT how many other threads have their been like this? How does it look? And to be quite frank unless I see you around the forum posting elsewhere I'll be inclined to believe this is yet another one hit wonder.
I'm not being harsh here by the way I'm just being real with you.
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you can dis me ( dismiss and/or disrespect ) because I'm a newbie, but wasn't everyone a newbie at some point? :) I've had experience in pirating satellite as a buyer way back with Vcipher and Reggie, (props to whomever got that reference) but yes I'm a newbie here only because I just heard about it. I am just giving an objective point of view of what I've seen so far. I wish I had found SR six months ago or even 2 months ago when vendors like Tony76 were so trustworthy that there wasn't an issue, but unfortunately I joined now at a very risky time. I hate to see people get ripped off, especially me, :) and I'd love to have a site like this flourish and have a scam free community. But that isn't reality, so we just need to do what we can to be vigilant so the Tony76 debacle doesn't happen more often.
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Maynard... it is not that we don't agree with you... for the most part WE DO agree with you...
it is how you went about it that kinda set us off... just follow the protocol and post these things where they are supposed to be... EVERYONE is aware of what a douche TONY76 is... we discuss it frequently in the vendor forum... none of us Vendors are for TONY... we would string him up by his NUTS if we could get a hold of him... that's real...
But thanks for wanting to help SR Forum be the kind of place that wants to make buying safe for everyone...
TJ
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Maynard... it is not that we don't agree with you... for the most part WE DO agree with you...
it is how you went about it that kinda set us off... just follow the protocol and post these things where they are supposed to be... EVERYONE is aware of what a douche TONY76 is... we discuss it frequently in the vendor forum... none of us Vendors are for TONY... we would string him up by his NUTS if we could get a hold of him... that's real...
But thanks for wanting to help SR Forum be the kind of place that wants to make buying safe for everyone...
TJ
Yeah Jones has hit the nail on the head with what I'm trying to say here.
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I respectfully understand. Bashing Tony76 wasn't my message. Let me bore you with my observation. I messaged TheRealUS last week, along with a few other vendors, when his listings were up and his rating was 98 or 99. Luckily he never replied. A few days later, his listings were gone, his rating went down to 86 and all the feedback listed were lucky members who were able to buy without FE and got their orders cancelled and got their money back. But if you check his page, most people do not meet his criteria for escrow and had to FE as I would have had to do. All those people were scammed and did not get refunds I'm sure. That's why it's important to take a proactive stance and try to see the storm before you lose your house. By listing my post in a rumor forum as a newbie would hold no sway at all. However, hopefully I raised this issue to the point of people actually seeing it and heeding it. Especially by communicating with established members as yourself and others. Thanks for hearing me out and everyone be cautious. If you're a newbie and cannot place an order without FE, you really have to think about it and research. It would be great if cool and trustworthy vendors could trust enough to not demand FE.
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Actually, maynard, if you check the RumorMill, you'll find quite a different story.
TheRealUS got royally fucked last week and it looks like he's trying to make it right but there's a *ton* of people that FE'd. They are getting their BTC back, or shipments, but it is taking some time.
Someone got into TheRealUSDs SR account and changed all of the auto-withdrawl addresses to Nomad's public 'Tip me to help out since I moderate for fee' address.
He's out hundreds of BTC. He's also posted screenshots validating the issue, and peeps have looked at the blockchain to verify that Nomad received hundreds of BTC from TheRealUSD.
I personally feel for him. I mean, I know a ton of buyers are in a tight spot too, having FE'd and not receiving. I got taken this past sale too, so I know how much it sucks.
But, imagine logging into your SR account only to find someone else has been siphoning off all your BTC...
And then imagine trying to deal with the fallout and making it up to tens, if not hundreds of customers.
What sucks for me is that what looked like a good solid source of L is now probably gone. First Tony leaves, now USD. We need someone to fill in and offer some quality L (white and up).