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Title: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: forumlogin on March 15, 2012, 05:28 pm
im looking to change the way i buy coins, im wondering if lloyds cash deposits are working again with intersango? i plan to use them next time i buy coins, just wondering whats the score with setting up an account...should i use a real or fake name?...just if it goes tits up how do i get money back if its not in my name? obviously for anonymity its better  not being in my name! just looking for an idiot proof guide on how to buy bitcoins in the uk with cash...eg not with my bank card...thanks for anyone who chips in their thoughts
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: heinz74 on March 15, 2012, 07:39 pm
Hi Mate
All you have to do is go is log on to intersango  website,  go into the accounts then the British pounds . In there you see the instructions, you don’t need to open up any account in the bank just pay into account details provided by intersango. (Ps don’t forget to put the ref details down on your paying in slip.)
Hope this helps mate
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: hiddenlocust on March 15, 2012, 07:41 pm
Anyone else having problems withdrawing from intersango?

Put a request in last Thursday n still waiting for it to appear in my UK bank account?
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: forumlogin on March 16, 2012, 11:23 am
hienz74...thanks for the advice man.when creating intersango account is this better to be in a fake name?.dont really want bc tied to my name.can anyone explain what the expected turn arounfd time is from lloyds cash deposit....till the £ is in my intersango account?.thanks guys...its just a bit concerning with ppl mentioning many issues with intersango at the moment
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: Vivalasvegas on March 19, 2012, 07:33 am
Anyone else having problems withdrawing from intersango?

Put a request in last Thursday n still waiting for it to appear in my UK bank account?

I did the same thing last week. Took almost 4 working days to appear in my account. Hang in there. It will happen :)
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: aligibbs on March 19, 2012, 08:51 am
I recently made an account with Intersango and have done a couple of cash deposits. The first one worked smoothly, was in my account within hours. The second one, last week, took a while and I opened a support ticket. After a while they put the money in and said it was Lloyds fault. Either way I got my money so all fine :)

Re: the name. I'm not sure which is best. I used a made up, random email address but can't remember what I put as the name and I can't find it on my Intersango page. Either way I'll probably rotate accounts used anyway, all with fake email addresses.

But, yeah, Intersango works ok - most of the time :) I think if you're concerned just try depositing a small amount first.

Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: cache on March 19, 2012, 09:07 am
Intersango are working ok again now, I made a cash deposit last week and it arrived within 24 hours.
Use a fake name, you need access to the email address that you give them though.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: utopia on March 19, 2012, 06:08 pm
So you just walk in to a bank (must it be a lloyds branch?) and they'll do a wire transfer without asking for your own account etc? What's the technical term for it so I don't seem like a retard?
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: aligibbs on March 19, 2012, 06:28 pm
Yeah, it has to be a Lloyds but it can be any branch. If you do bank with Lloyds I'd recommending using a branch that won't recognize you, but that's up to you :)

No, they won't ask you any personal information - well, they shouldn't, and can't by law force you to make polite chit chat with them. If you're that worried about personal chit chat just pretend you're on the phone or something.

And just fill in the paying in slip (all self explanatory) and then hand it to the cashier with the amount and they'll do their thing. Don't forget your reference!
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: randomperson on March 21, 2012, 07:05 pm
Hmm...well I deposited cash into their Metro bank nearly week ago now and.....nothing,  They did respond to the support ticket at first, but now seem to be ignoring my emails.

It's all very frustrating - tonnes of weed out their ready to be delivered to my sweaty paws, yet I can't even get any bitcoins!
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: aligibbs on March 21, 2012, 11:26 pm
Quote
Hmm...well I deposited cash into their Metro bank nearly week ago now and.....nothing,  They did respond to the support ticket at first, but now seem to be ignoring my emails.

It's all very frustrating - tonnes of weed out their ready to be delivered to my sweaty paws, yet I can't even get any bitcoins!

Keep trying - you'll find a way that works for you eventually! :) And then you can smoke your mind into an oblivion =)
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: ukbenjy on March 22, 2012, 03:32 am
I just got some BTC from Mt Gox. Paid cash in at about half four on Tuesday, got the BTC about an hour ago (02:30 22/03/2012)
Plus their account is with Barclays, who have branches everywhere! Takes a while, but they always take the same amount of time, and they don't switch accounts all the time like Intersango.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: forumlogin on March 22, 2012, 12:25 pm
mmm......im not sure about using intersango....it seems to be taking a long time for people to get their cash! can anyone reccomend whats bet to use....lloyds cahsh deposit to intersango or barclays cash deposit to mtgox? im looking for advice on reliability/speed and ease of use
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: cache on March 22, 2012, 12:38 pm
Did a Lloyds cash deposit with Intersango last week and it took under 24 hours to credit.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on March 22, 2012, 12:55 pm
mmm......im not sure about using intersango....it seems to be taking a long time for people to get their cash! can anyone reccomend whats bet to use....lloyds cahsh deposit to intersango or barclays cash deposit to mtgox? im looking for advice on reliability/speed and ease of use

- i don't think they have a barclays account

- metro is the other alternative apparently more reliable.

- additional tips: apparently lloyds "said" they wouldn't refund an amount should there be some problem which sounds like a load of bollocks esp if you still have the receipt but its worth not forgetting;
 don't deposit small cash amounts under the circumstances it may seem risky the small amounts raise suspicion ie 0-£50 (?!), so
i would do £100+ and should there be an issue with metro get your cash back and perhaps another methid the next time....not much of a solution, sorry...there's a
better chance of getting the refund 1st time round and they might be difficult 2nd time round....

 ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: Pileus on March 23, 2012, 07:27 pm
I've used them twice.  The first time I went into my local Loyds, and the money showed up a couple of hours later!

Then I read on here about Loyds accounts being dodgy. That one of their Directors had done a bunk and he was the only one with access to their Loyds account! 

This concerned me, and having no Metro bank near by, I used Ukash vouchers. They worked fine!!

Seeing as all vendors demand you finalise early, What good are bit coins?  You are not guaranteed your money back with bitcoins finalizing early.

And if you don't finalise early , no one will do business with you!!

I stupidly travelled to London to the main Metro bank, I paid my money in and 3 days later it is not in my Intersango account!!

They have no customer service, I got 1 reply from about 7 emails.

FUCK INTERSANGO AND FUCK BITCOIN

OH JUST FUCK IT :'(
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: lefthandspinner on March 23, 2012, 07:38 pm
not many guys accept ukash i dont think there allowed anymore ,
did someone sell u coins for ukash i looked earlier but didnt see any
if u go on skype at night maybe 20.00 u can speak to patrik and hes good ,when i did it bank teller wroth o instead of zero and support came out with some shit about changing banks and mine would be done when they got a new bank,this before they had metro,so i went on skype and he said oh they wrote wrong ref and pressed a button and it was in in seconds,if i waited for support fuck knows what would of happened
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: Pileus on March 23, 2012, 08:39 pm
Do you mean me?

Yeah I used ukash to trade with *********

He takes them fine.

Just cant leave feedback as it's outside silk rd.

Wish I had just dealt with him again, but I fancied trying someone else and now I have £150 tied up with Intersango . Who blank all comtact.

Maybe I'll drink a bottle of whisky and go up to Hanover Street and Have a chat with Patrick and his mates Face to face :)
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: Pileus on March 23, 2012, 09:02 pm
Im useless with a comp . Never done Skype. Patrick is the customer support. He emailed me once. Then Fucked me off.

So as far as Im concerned the bloke couldn't give a monkeys chuff.

There must be an easier way to get bitcoins without using this cowboy outfit.

Peace Out
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: Vivalasvegas on March 23, 2012, 11:17 pm
I used to be a advocate of Intersangos but have had a similar issue over the last week. I paid a small ammount of money into  Metro bank for the first time and have been waiting for almost one week now. Many emails later I have had no joy. On their site I used the Metro bank due to it stating that Lloyds was slow and the former faster. I am really starting to get annoyed now too! Will now try and Skype with Patrick.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: thehiddenjohn on March 24, 2012, 11:26 am
Made a first attempt to pay into Intersango yesterday (23.03.12) at a Lloyds TSB branch in the UK. Was told that the Intertenni Ltd account was blocked and that they couldn't accept the deposit.
Will try Mt.Gox at Barclays next
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: clixor on March 24, 2012, 01:24 pm
My new deposit was processed in 2 days.

One other question though. The 'suggested' BTC rate is now 3.76380 while there are SELL orders below that. Isn't the suggested rate updated to reflect the available sell orders?
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: Vivalasvegas on March 29, 2012, 07:34 am
Finally recieved my money into my Intersango account. I lost the deposit slip so it was harder to trace. Was told that it is quicker to transfer from my bank account to their account. Not sure I want to do that. 10 days in total for credit of account after numerous emails.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: PlutoPete on March 29, 2012, 09:33 am
I'm pleased to report that Intersango seem to have smoothed all their problems out now, transfers seem to be flowing properly now in both directions :)
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on March 29, 2012, 09:47 am
...mixed experiences....working for some and not for others...and plutopete's last response was it is working....thought metrobank "worked" better than that stupid
  lloyds arrangement, doesn't exactly boost ones confidence...if i deposit will i get btc's OR will i get my money back...beats me

 ???
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: PlutoPete on March 29, 2012, 09:53 am
They seem to have dropped Lloyds altogether now, metro appears to be the only bank they use now.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: heinz74 on March 29, 2012, 10:16 am
Does anyone know what the score is for paying cash in, i don't have any Metro banks near me, can i pay it into any bank with the Metro details?
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: Pileus on March 29, 2012, 07:47 pm
Got my btc in 4 working days from Intersango!!
Unfortunately my vendor was out of product by then!
Got to wait at least another week.
Oh well, least I saved some money.
I have a feeling either they don't have enough bitcoin to give out, or they just want to sit on your money for a week. Then sort out the bitcoins when the market is more favourable to them.
Typical bankers!!
As to paying money from your bank to their Metro Account.
That would work fine, as long as you don't mind leaving a trail buy bitcoins and loosing your annonimity!
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on March 29, 2012, 10:45 pm
They seem to have dropped Lloyds altogether now, metro appears to be the only bank they use now.

...good riddance ....fucking waste of time lloyds, "you either take our deposits or not - make up your mind"...can't imagine what their explanation to lloyds was...haha

Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: embraceit on April 07, 2012, 10:14 pm
Does anyone know what the score is for paying cash in, i don't have any Metro banks near me, can i pay it into any bank with the Metro details?

Would also like to know this, as almost all, in fact maybe all of the Metro banks are in London and I would rather know if I can just walk into any UK bank and ask for a cash deposit slip and it would go smoothly within 24 hours or not etc?

Now that the lloyds bank isn't an option and would rather not give person bank details for their online transfer, if depositing in a metro bank is the only option, what is the next best way for someone in the UK to get bitcoins?
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on April 08, 2012, 12:13 am
...one bank to metro takes more time, we all know its a few bits 'n bytes to make their mega journey from one piece of wire to another, but banks will string it out to make it appear its a tremendous amount of effort
BUT, when you stand back ....millions have just passed along this super-highway as i type this msg, like water coming out of a tap.....

walk into the bank where intersango's have an account -Metro is the best bet, lloyds has been up and down, and when its up and down usually means - unreliable
(..nice so we are back to cash are we...)


Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: TomsWay on April 08, 2012, 07:06 am
Just a heads up: Was talking to Patrick the other day chasing something up and he was telling me that they are going to stop allowing Metro bank cash deposits soon. Something about unreliability...so it would only be BACs transfer.

Would be pretty weak and given how often their depositing routes/methods change I wonder if it actually will come into play.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: heinz74 on April 08, 2012, 09:14 am
I've done away with Intersango had nothing but crap with them. I use MT GOX now, paid in cash to Barclays and money was in my account in less the 12 hours. :P
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: Sleepers on April 08, 2012, 07:44 pm
Hi All,

Completely new to all of this. Paid some money into Intersango on thurs/fri is showing on my Intersango account but at what point does this get transferred into Bitcoins or is that what you are all waiting  for within this thread? Sorry all, total Noob to his system.
 Also how do you get the bitcoins, or cash balance onto SR? I know on SR they give an address to send them to but where is this facility on Intersango?
 To be fair after reading this thread i probably won't use them again but still need to clear my account with them as it is at the moment.
  Sorry if this question has been answered in previous threads/stickies.

Any help greatly appreciated
Rgds
Sleeps
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: bennybigheart on April 09, 2012, 12:40 pm
Hello,
Iv used the lloyds method a few times, only once had a problem, emailed intersango and they were prompt with reply and sorted out the issue next day. Are they really stopping using them, this would be a nightmare, im nervous about using the other bank after the hack last year.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: utopia on April 09, 2012, 04:46 pm
So now it looks like cash transfers are out of the picture with intersango - does anyone know of any similar methods to buy bitcoins in the UK using cash? This is evidently the most anonymous approach to buying bitcoins.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: SnowCrash on April 10, 2012, 11:54 am
I was just about to head to my local Lloyds branch before I found this thread. Glad I read it first.

What's the next best way for a newbie to turn this £20 note in his wallet into bitcoins then?

Thanks
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: skunkjunkie on April 10, 2012, 05:55 pm
hi guys im new to this and think i now know what i have to do after abit of confusion,could someone clarify if im right before i go ahead and do it. im assuming the mtgox site still accepts cash deposits,so i sign up for an account on there,get the bank details they give you on there and get a cash deposit slip from barcleys,fill out the bank details from mtgox on the slip then pay in some money (and i dont need to bank with barcleys??) then will it just appear in my mtgox account when it clears?  may the bankers ask me questions about where im depositing my money?

all help will be much appriciated
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: skunkjunkie on April 10, 2012, 06:08 pm
also i have found that mt gox really does not like TOR,its blocked me for something to do with my ip address. surely its not advisable to not use TOR for sorting the bitcoins out?
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: vlad1m1r on April 10, 2012, 06:20 pm
hi guys im new to this and think i now know what i have to do after abit of confusion,could someone clarify if im right before i go ahead and do it. im assuming the mtgox site still accepts cash deposits,so i sign up for an account on there,get the bank details they give you on there and get a cash deposit slip from barcleys,fill out the bank details from mtgox on the slip then pay in some money (and i dont need to bank with barcleys??) then will it just appear in my mtgox account when it clears?  may the bankers ask me questions about where im depositing my money?

all help will be much appriciated

Hello to a fellow Brit!

Yes, it is possible to put the payment reference on a deposit slip however I have had a few problems with this when paying my rent so make sure you mention to the Cashier how important the reference is. They won't ask any questions beyond what's necessary to put the money in the account. You should bear in mind that this method isn't entirely anonymous as you'll be on CCTV and they might remember your face - it's better to fill in a deposit slip in your own time and put it in one of those special deposit envelope; most banks have a box in branch where you can leave the envelope.

V.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: skunkjunkie on April 10, 2012, 10:03 pm
cheers man,il have a look tomorow. do u know if the cashier knows that its going to be transfered to bitcoins? also should i use mt gox on normal browser and not tor?
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: vlad1m1r on April 10, 2012, 10:21 pm
cheers man,il have a look tomorow. do u know if the cashier knows that its going to be transfered to bitcoins? also should i use mt gox on normal browser and not tor?

No problem buddy  - the money goes into the account of a dummy company, unless the cashier is a fellow cryptoanarchist then they probably won't even know what Bitcoins are - in any case it's perfectly legal to buy Bitcoins - all of my investors pay me in BTC which I then put into legal businesses for example(!)

As for MtGox if they detect you're using Tor they'll lock down your account. Suggest you use an encrypted SSH tunnel to access Mtgox and create a new account for the purpose. My personal favourite is shellmix.com - very fast and based in Poland where they have strong privacy laws. If you need help setting this up send me a message.

All the best,

V.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: skunkjunkie on April 10, 2012, 11:22 pm
is shellmix the tunnel? forgive me,im ok with computers but ive not done stuff like this before.once i have set it up will it let me on mt gox with tor? is there anything i should know before trying to set it up?

cheers
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: vlad1m1r on April 11, 2012, 06:47 am
Hi Skunkjunkie,

If you try to access MtGox using Tor then your account may be frozen. Ideally you need another way to use the internet anonymously. You can do this through a process known as secure shell tunneling, for more information see this excellent Wiki article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunneling_protocol

My particular tunnel of choice can be found at http://tunnel.shellmix.com  -you'll see there's a tutorial there on creating an account with them and also one on how to install the program 'Putty' and configure it with Firefox to get going. Once again any snags, let me know.

You should bear in mind this isn't quite as anonymous as Tor but in all fairness it doesn't really need to be as the Bitcoins themselves will provide you with another layer of secrecy once you withdraw them from your Bitcoin account. If you're feeling extra paranoid you can always run your coins through a mixing service like Bitcoinfog.

Personally I access MtGox from my work PC without making any efforts to hide my anonymity - part of my investment portfolio is in Bitcoins and there's no reason to hide this fact.

V.

is shellmix the tunnel? forgive me,im ok with computers but ive not done stuff like this before.once i have set it up will it let me on mt gox with tor? is there anything i should know before trying to set it up?

cheers
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: sara on April 11, 2012, 12:52 pm
is it ok to transfer large amount of money from my bank account to intersangos metro account, ive used it before but only up till about £500, would it be ok to deposit abot 3 or 4 thousand ?
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: gustono on April 11, 2012, 01:00 pm
is it ok to transfer large amount of money from my bank account to intersangos metro account, ive used it before but only up till about £500, would it be ok to deposit abot 3 or 4 thousand ?

I'm thinking of doing this, straight from my bank account. Anyone else have any other methods of cash deposit now intersango have changed the game?
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: cache on April 11, 2012, 01:01 pm
Not really, it is a pity that they have changed it up like this.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: gustono on April 11, 2012, 01:17 pm
With proper laundering and shuffling, according to Reseller, going bank account --> intersango (or mtgox, intersango seems much more "laid back") --> instawallets --> bitcoinFog --> SR is good.

bit of a lengthy process, wasn't needed when we could do cash deposits but it'll have to do.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: Bud on April 11, 2012, 04:11 pm
Just grow some nads and do an online transaction. noone cares what the fuck you're buying bitcoins for so fuck em. tell them to go scukcka dick if they give you any beef.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: vlad1m1r on April 11, 2012, 05:59 pm
I can't remember if we mentioned this earlier.

If you open a MtGox account and change your currency to GBP in the settings they do give you details of a Barclays account you can pay into. Just be extra careful they put the reference number in correctly.

V.

is it ok to transfer large amount of money from my bank account to intersangos metro account, ive used it before but only up till about £500, would it be ok to deposit abot 3 or 4 thousand ?

I'm thinking of doing this, straight from my bank account. Anyone else have any other methods of cash deposit now intersango have changed the game?
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: skunkjunkie on April 11, 2012, 07:24 pm
i have a computer at work i can access, without tor or this tunnel thing do you think il be fine to access it at work (mtgox that is) just to get the money into the account and move it on as bitcoins? im tempted to give this cryptoexchange thing ive heard about that accept cash deposits and are tor freindly but no one really talks about it so im not overly convinced. also i have looked on the site and i cant see a gbp exchange rate anywhere so dont even know if its possible.maybe it lets you when you sign up.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: vlad1m1r on April 11, 2012, 07:55 pm
i have a computer at work i can access, without tor or this tunnel thing do you think il be fine to access it at work (mtgox that is) just to get the money into the account and move it on as bitcoins? im tempted to give this cryptoexchange thing ive heard about that accept cash deposits and are tor freindly but no one really talks about it so im not overly convinced. also i have looked on the site and i cant see a gbp exchange rate anywhere so dont even know if its possible.maybe it lets you when you sign up.

In theory if it's possible to trace the purchase of Bitcoin to a particular person those coins could be followed throughout the network but it would be extraordinarily difficult - as far as I know no one has been able to build a solid criminal case against someone on this basis. I certainly access MtGox all the time from work.

I would suggest that you just go for it and buy your Bitcoins - once you have them you can always run them through a mixer like Bitcoinfog as we said to make sure they can't be traced back to you. Don't forget SR has its own coin tumbler too to stop this from happening.

V.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: qualiyplant on April 12, 2012, 12:22 pm
Hi everyone  :)

Ive been lurking and this is my first day posting.

FYI

I used Mt Gox's Barclays account and depositing just 3 quid to test - it arrived in my Mt Gox 2 days later - am currently moving it to SR. If this all works I'll probably be doing it in chunks of 20 quid from now on until I have what I need in my SR wallet. Just to be safe.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: vlad1m1r on April 12, 2012, 06:32 pm
Hi everyone  :)

Ive been lurking and this is my first day posting.

FYI

I used Mt Gox's Barclays account and depositing just 3 quid to test - it arrived in my Mt Gox 2 days later - am currently moving it to SR. If this all works I'll probably be doing it in chunks of 20 quid from now on until I have what I need in my SR wallet. Just to be safe.

Welcome to SR quallyplant and always a pleasure to talk with a fellow Brit!

Of course there is always Intersango but I find the rates on MtGox are much better when it comes to buying Bitcoins. With regard to your plans to buy coins a little at a time, this might increase your privacy but it might be much easier and cheaper to buy all the coins you need in one go then transfer the BTC in small amounts to several wallets before sending them to your SR wallet at random intervals.

Don't forget SR has a built in mixer for vendors to withdraw your coins, which increases your safety.

I am toying with the idea of offering people a chance to exchange their Bitcoins for cash - perhaps there might be a market in the UK to do the reverse to - would you feel more comfortable sending cash in the post than using Barclays?

V.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: skunkjunkie on April 12, 2012, 07:37 pm
right, i can take being called an absolute retard on this on but i went to barcleys today to get one of these slips (assuming like lloyds they would be laying around somewhere so you can just pick them up) and i picked one of the paying in slips up to find it said on it  "only use for crediting accounts at barcleys branches". this was the only paying in slip i could see, im assuming this is not what i need,and if so where will i find the other type of paying in slip?
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: qualiyplant on April 12, 2012, 07:39 pm
I can just wire it from my online account

piece of piss

but your point about the fees is a good one hadn't thought of that

I also know this isnt the most secure way of doing things but atm I'm only planning on doing some very small orders to see how things work out

I dont think Id be up for sending cash in the post! If it was a eschaw (is that how u spell it) situation I might consider it though
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: skunkjunkie on April 12, 2012, 08:10 pm
so u used your bank card to wire it online? im the same really,only was gona buy small amount of hash to see if it works,a henry or under. have u made a successful transaction yet
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: vlad1m1r on April 12, 2012, 09:55 pm
right, i can take being called an absolute retard on this on but i went to barcleys today to get one of these slips (assuming like lloyds they would be laying around somewhere so you can just pick them up) and i picked one of the paying in slips up to find it said on it  "only use for crediting accounts at barcleys branches". this was the only paying in slip i could see, im assuming this is not what i need,and if so where will i find the other type of paying in slip?

No, you had it right mate. Just fill the deposit slip in with the account details from Mt. Gox and make sure that you get the Payment Reference correct so they know to send it to your account - ask the Cashier to make sure as last time I tried to pay a bill there in cash, the guy forgot and they weren't able to marry it up until I called them.

If you need any help, feel free to post. No such thing as a stupid question!

V.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: skunkjunkie on April 12, 2012, 10:55 pm
ok cheers pal,one last thing is the reference on mtgox the the random digits next to where it says message,also theres 2 more codes it gives you, an I-Ban and a BIC,what are these? and it also asks to
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: skunkjunkie on April 12, 2012, 10:58 pm
it asks to sign your name,do u just make up a random signiture or just write a random name
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: vlad1m1r on April 13, 2012, 07:05 am
ok cheers pal,one last thing is the reference on mtgox the the random digits next to where it says message,also theres 2 more codes it gives you, an I-Ban and a BIC,what are these? and it also asks to

The IBAN (Short for International Bank Account Number) and BIC code are used when making wire transfers between different accounts across countries - so if for example I lived in Australia and wanted to send you some money, I'd need your IBAN to do it (which is actually just your account information put into an internationally standardised format.)

Neither of these are necessary for making a cash deposit in branch. Re: putting your name, there's no reason you can't sign another name. However as I've said in previous posts it is not illegal to buy Bitcoins and near impossible to trace them back to you once they've been put through a mixer such as the one built into SR.

Just make sure the Cashier enters the reference number when you pay in like I said.

V.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: dolphinspeak on April 13, 2012, 11:08 am
Vlad1m1r, every single one of your posts in this thread has been so helpful. Just wanted to say thanks.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: vlad1m1r on April 13, 2012, 12:44 pm
Vlad1m1r, every single one of your posts in this thread has been so helpful. Just wanted to say thanks.

Anytime buddy! I work in the Finance sector so have had a bit of experience with these things. Anything else you need, feel free to ask.

V.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on April 13, 2012, 09:29 pm
- bank a/c --> intersango a/c
   - if you don't care about an existing or future investigation on you, nor care about leaving a trail of your activities.

- cash deposit --> intersango a/c
  - risky, some feedback of issues getting money back...
  - its more anonymous, your bank a/c can't be linked  to intersango nor your ID to intersango..


- buying bitcoins not illegal as such.....but life isn't that simple is it !!


- depends on what you care for or couldn't care less about..
   just as using your own contract phone to order drugs, or threaten someone, if you wanted to be anonymous you wouldn't do this....pretty obvious..


Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: vlad1m1r on April 13, 2012, 09:47 pm
- bank a/c --> intersango a/c
   - if you don't care about an existing or future investigation on you, nor care about leaving a trail of your activities.

- cash deposit --. intersango a/c
  - risky, some feedback of issues getting money back...
  - its more anonymous, your bank a/c can't be linked  to intersango nor intersango..


- buying bitcoins not illegal as such.....but life isn't that simple is it !!


- depends on what you care for or couldn't care less about..
   just as using your own contract phone to order drugs, or threaten someone, if you wanted to be anonymous you wouldn't do this....pretty obvious..

As I mentioned before, even proving that you paid money into a BTC provider's account wouldn't be enough, you'd need the specific Bitcoin Address where they received the money to even to begin to trace the funds.

OP if you feel strongly about the issue of anonymity the link to my PGP key is below, send me a message and you can send me your cash in the mail, I'll happily add it to my daily order of BTC which I use for investments and send the Bitcoins on to you free of charge.

V.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: htpeacock on April 16, 2012, 03:47 pm
Is it possible for someone to post an easy step by step tutorial regarding shellmix and putty? For the non tech savvy the instructions at the site are so unclear as to be impenetrable! Like a lot of people I have been tripped up by Intersangos change of policy and I would like to try MtGox via Barclays. I don't understand what details you need from the MtGox server to enable this. This is all as clear as mud, I hope someone can help. Thanks.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: vlad1m1r on April 16, 2012, 05:41 pm
Is it possible for someone to post an easy step by step tutorial regarding shellmix and putty? For the non tech savvy the instructions at the site are so unclear as to be impenetrable! Like a lot of people I have been tripped up by Intersangos change of policy and I would like to try MtGox via Barclays. I don't understand what details you need from the MtGox server to enable this. This is all as clear as mud, I hope someone can help. Thanks.

Hi buddy,

I've posted about this elsewhere, the tutorial on this page looks relatively simple, any questions feel free to send me a message:

http://www.sb-innovation.de/f59/using-ssh-proxy-ssh-tunneling-22014/

With regard to MtGox you need to change your currency to GBP in the settings then click on Trade > Funding Options > Add funds and select GBP Deposit from the drop down menu. You'll see the details for the Barclay's bank account with a reference number unique to your MtGox account. You can deposit cash over the counter obviously but make sure they get the reference number right so they know to credit it to your particular account.

Next week I plan to start a service here in the UK offering Bitcoins in exchange for cash in the mail which offers a much higher degree of privacy. I can't offer to do this on here until I'm set up with a seller account but if you'd like more information, feel free to send me a message.

V.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: htpeacock on April 16, 2012, 09:09 pm
Thanks very much for that, it looks really helpful, cheers.

Well, it was helpful in completing the configuration, but I still don't know if it 'took' on firefox. I entered the numbers but it keeps going back to 'no proxy'. Has the manual configuration failed for firefox?
Beyond that I still have no clue how you are supposed to use this thing to securely surf the net in the manner of Tor. Do I have to enter details of the MtGox server? What is the procedure for using it? Unfortunately, once you get to a certain stage all the text reverts to Polish. I do hope someone can help with this, ta.
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: Abritishperson on April 30, 2012, 08:51 pm
Majorly pissed that Intersango closed their Lloyds account. I never had any problems that couldn't be solved through a quick chat with a member of Intersango's support team on IRC. I don't fancy paying the train fare to London every time I want to deposit money into metro bank (Which is no longer possible actually), and I don't want to use a wire transfer.

I'll be paying money into MtGox through deposit sometime soon, I'll update when I know a little more
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on April 30, 2012, 11:43 pm
- it seems lloyds were fucking them around as well us depositing cash, kept suspending their account so fucking waste of everyones
  time..; i don't know much about finance...perhaps its seen as potential money laundering -if so
  why let britcoin/intersango open the fucking account in the first place?!


Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: htpeacock on May 01, 2012, 04:20 pm
Why don't they open another account with a more reliable bank? Or have LE been leaning on them re anonymous deposits, anyone heard?
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: aligibbs on May 01, 2012, 05:00 pm
I imagine they're looking into it - they must have lost a huge amount of business due to it.

For the time being check out Mtgox if you are in the UK. You can cash deposit at a Barclay's branch and it'll appear in your Mtgox account. The only downside is not being able to access it through TOR, but with proper BTC practices this shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: Abritishperson on May 01, 2012, 07:40 pm
Paid my weed money into Barclays today, but have to wait '1 to 3 business days' for it to appear in my MGT account, and another 5 days on top of that to launder it. Such a pain. Intersango, if you're reading this, sort it out!!  >:(
Title: Re: Intersango?...how to buy bitcoins for cash in the uk?
Post by: Abritishperson on May 04, 2012, 09:19 pm
Updated: Mtgox are currently celebrating 'golden week' in Japan, which means business has basically come to a standstill until the 6th of may.