Quote from: Limetless on June 17, 2012, 06:25 pmYeah it was obvious that the dirty Reds would come out of the woodwork at some point, it's just ridiculous that people think it's a good idea to make the same mistake not once, not twice, not 5 times but whatever number of Communist/Socialist states there are out there implementing their misery to their people...and by people I mean slaves. And yeah I agree, I do believe in some forms of welfare but certainly nothing like we have in the U.K. I don't make money to pay for people to do fuck all with their lives, I would however make money to help the sick, needy and others that genuinely are in need. Until that time though, I will be content to not help anyone and just go on well expensive holidays. :)50p on the 1? Fuck right off. It's not that their is an alternative in my opinion. You either ride the punches or there is doom and unless you are completely fucking stupid doom isn't something that people generally consider an option. It's like that Eddie Izzard sketch "Cake or Death?"...what the fuck you gunna pick lol? Problem is that the idiots in Greece clearly think that doom is a viable option.And lol at that "Eating their rich" comment. Typical anti-wealth bullshit.Well said Lim,As you know I work in Hedge Funds and every day I try to help people keep Big Brother out of our clients' pockets. One rather poisonous bitch who went to University (the saggy beer bottle glasses wearing feminist type!) commented rather poisonously that I was helping people to perform tax evasion but I'm not so convinced we should regard the wealthy with such an "us and them" mindset. As a matter of fact we've had a lot of people from the Construction industry in particular winding up their small enterprises and sinking their savings into our bank!And as I said these people we so demonise are the very people who can get us out of the slump; the people with the drive and motivation to make their ideas a reality. Rather than listlessly selling their labour from one job to the next they work together some capital and start their own business.They take the risk the whole thing will go down the swanee and they'll lose their hard earned capital, they take the risk that one of their employees will decide she wants babies six months into her job and expect Maternity payment or that the employee they had to sack for being inept will sue them for thousands for unfair dismissal or that some clumsy hireling will trip and bang their knee and make a Personal Injury claim (Lord have Mercy!).If you can run that gauntlet and still have some cash to show for it, frankly you deserve a medal, not for half of it to be whisked away from you.Of course as you say we need to make provision for the sick and the elderly but is it too draconian to say for instance that you should wait until you can afford children to have them and that if you want to go to University you are going to have to borrow the money and not receive a tax free lump sum to slurp jelly shots of some tart's chest for three years of your life? :-DV.