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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: wanna-be on July 15, 2012, 04:14 am
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Many kinds of forgeries are available on the road, but there is no identity theft allowed? Why is this?
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Because we are not ass holes that want to ruin other peoples lives.\
We choose to skate around the law slightly as long as we don't hurt others in the
process. If u need to rip people off - please go somewhere else!!!
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So idoes it matter whether or not dishonest wares and services are sold? Or just the reason why they are bought? How would we impute whether or not a person was purchasing a fake ID to hurt someone?
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So idoes it matter whether or not dishonest wares and services are sold? Or just the reason why they are bought? How would we impute whether or not a person was purchasing a fake ID to hurt someone?
you can't ban everything because it could be used to hurt someone. hell someone could kill someone with a pencil pretty easily, so should those be illegal? why do I use such an absurd example? because you're trying to apply the same type of rationale here.
end of the story is using a stolen identity will fuck someones life over, guaranteed.
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Because we are not ass holes that want to ruin other peoples lives.\
We choose to skate around the law slightly as long as we don't hurt others in the
process. If u need to rip people off - please go somewhere else!!!
So idoes it matter whether or not dishonest wares and services are sold? Or just the reason why they are bought? How would we impute whether or not a person was purchasing a fake ID to hurt someone?
you can't ban everything because it could be used to hurt someone. hell someone could kill someone with a pencil pretty easily, so should those be illegal? why do I use such an absurd example? because you're trying to apply the same type of rationale here.
end of the story is using a stolen identity will fuck someones life over, guaranteed.
+1 to you both.
Identity theft is not allowed, thats why credit card forgeries are banned here as well. I would hate to see people have their life turned upside down because of someone stealing/using their identity .
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how would a false id hurt someone - u said "identity theft"!!!
douche bag alert!!
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how would a false id hurt someone - u said "identity theft"!!!
douche bag alert!!
True, he is curious about the subject it seems. However we cannot jump to conclusions like that, I can imagine it to be a genuine question of curiosity. Of course it`ll be clear what the OP`s intentions are if he goes looking for a vendor to provide that for him, till then its a flat cake.
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Why is everyone imputing guilt on my mind? I was just asking. Sheesh...
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Many kinds of forgeries are available on the road, but there is no identity theft allowed? Why is this?
In all honestly I think the real reason is because it isnt as easy to charge fees on the associated identity theft services.
PS - If you cant figure out how to network without being out in the open then maybe identity theft isnt for you anyway :)
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because you're trying to apply the same type of rationale here.
I'm not trying to apply any rational. I'm asking a question. Others may call me a douche bag but I won't take offense. It would be nice if someone thoughtto answer the question, which you partially have. And others have chipped in. I appreciate that. After some research I find that this has been discussed before. It appears to be quite controversial. I hopewe can all remain civil on this topic. Everyone has a right to their opinion.
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I'm told in credit card fraud the banks lose out. or the companies you scam are ordered to pay back the bank. the person never loses money it is returned to them .. So why is this not allowed ?
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I'm told in credit card fraud the banks lose out. or the companies you scam are ordered to pay back the bank. the person never loses money it is returned to them .. So why is this not allowed ?
This is absolutely and horrifically wrong. People who are victims of fraud have to repair their credit ratings and prove they were not involved in the fraud for one example. In the meantime they may not be able to get employed (they check credit rating now), by a house/car/whatever and will have bank issues for years to come. This can often take many years for a victim to get beyond.
Think people. There has to be some sort of honor among thieves around here.
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It is rather simple when you think about it... virtually everything that is sold here from Drugs to ID's to Porn is mainly for personal consumption/use that falls into the DPR category of 'Do No Harm'. Now obviously meth is not a harmless substance and ID's could be used by terrorists to do harm but the main purpose and the reason they are allowed here is the 'Main' use for these items is of a personal nature. People buy drugs to get high, they buy ID's to open PO Boxes, they buy Porn to beat off... bank account info, credit card info, etc.. is not harmless by it's very nature. There is absolutely NOTHING you can do with peoples credit card info that would not do some unsuspecting person harm. Someone said well what about the banks, that doesn't harm a person right? I think that is debatable. Have you ever lost your wallet or had it stolen... I bet it did hurt you to go and get all new credit cards or wait for the bank to complete its fraud investigation before they give you your money back... which can take weeks. Plus ripping off the bank does eventually find it's way back to your pocket in higher fees to cover losses.
So your original question was: Many kinds of forgeries are available on the road, but there is no identity theft allowed? Why is this?
After reading the responses by Christy and the others I think they did a good job of answering you. I hope this ends the discussion as it really serves no purpose to debate or argue about why someone can't sell this or that.
DPR set this site in motion but in the end it is the Buyers and Vendors who make Silk Road what it is... we like it like this... we DON'T want CP, Hitmen, Credit Card info, etc being sold or traded here. It isn't what we are about. If that is what you are about then SR may not be for you.
Thanks,
TJ
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I'm told in credit card fraud the banks lose out. or the companies you scam are ordered to pay back the bank. the person never loses money it is returned to them .. So why is this not allowed ?
And who exactly were you told by? Didn`t you learn economics in middle school....
It is rather simple when you think about it... virtually everything that is sold here from Drugs to ID's to Porn is mainly for personal consumption/use that falls into the DPR category of 'Do No Harm'. Now obviously meth is not a harmless substance and ID's could be used by terrorists to do harm but the main purpose and the reason they are allowed here is the 'Main' use for these items is of a personal nature. People buy drugs to get high, they buy ID's to open PO Boxes, they buy Porn to beat off... bank account info, credit card info, etc.. is not harmless by it's very nature. There is absolutely NOTHING you can do with peoples credit card info that would not do some unsuspecting person harm. Someone said well what about the banks, that doesn't harm a person right? I think that is debatable. Have you ever lost your wallet or had it stolen... I bet it did hurt you to go and get all new credit cards or wait for the bank to complete its fraud investigation before they give you your money back... which can take weeks. Plus ripping off the bank does eventually find it's way back to your pocket in higher fees to cover losses.
So your original question was: Many kinds of forgeries are available on the road, but there is no identity theft allowed? Why is this?
After reading the responses by Christy and the others I think they did a good job of answering you. I hope this ends the discussion as it really serves no purpose to debate or argue about why someone can't sell this or that.
DPR set this site in motion but in the end it is the Buyers and Vendors who make Silk Road what it is... we like it like this... we DON'T want CP, Hitmen, Credit Card info, etc being sold or traded here. It isn't what we are about. If that is what you are about then SR may not be for you.
+1
This needs to be locked up.
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Nice response Jonesy. Spot the fuck ON. +1
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It is rather simple when you think about it... virtually everything that is sold here from Drugs to ID's to Porn is mainly for personal consumption/use that falls into the DPR category of 'Do No Harm'. Now obviously meth is not a harmless substance and ID's could be used by terrorists to do harm but the main purpose and the reason they are allowed here is the 'Main' use for these items is of a personal nature. People buy drugs to get high, they buy ID's to open PO Boxes, they buy Porn to beat off... bank account info, credit card info, etc.. is not harmless by it's very nature. There is absolutely NOTHING you can do with peoples credit card info that would not do some unsuspecting person harm. Someone said well what about the banks, that doesn't harm a person right? I think that is debatable. Have you ever lost your wallet or had it stolen... I bet it did hurt you to go and get all new credit cards or wait for the bank to complete its fraud investigation before they give you your money back... which can take weeks. Plus ripping off the bank does eventually find it's way back to your pocket in higher fees to cover losses.
So your original question was: Many kinds of forgeries are available on the road, but there is no identity theft allowed? Why is this?
After reading the responses by Christy and the others I think they did a good job of answering you. I hope this ends the discussion as it really serves no purpose to debate or argue about why someone can't sell this or that.
DPR set this site in motion but in the end it is the Buyers and Vendors who make Silk Road what it is... we like it like this... we DON'T want CP, Hitmen, Credit Card info, etc being sold or traded here. It isn't what we are about. If that is what you are about then SR may not be for you.
Thanks,
TJ
I appreciate your respectful discourse. I agree with all of what you said but if I wanted to get picky I would say there are key moral differences between CP, Hitmen, and Credi Card info. But since I just had my happy pills I am going to say thank you and goodnight all!
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It is rather simple when you think about it... virtually everything that is sold here from Drugs to ID's to Porn is mainly for personal consumption/use that falls into the DPR category of 'Do No Harm'. Now obviously meth is not a harmless substance and ID's could be used by terrorists to do harm but the main purpose and the reason they are allowed here is the 'Main' use for these items is of a personal nature. People buy drugs to get high, they buy ID's to open PO Boxes, they buy Porn to beat off... bank account info, credit card info, etc.. is not harmless by it's very nature. There is absolutely NOTHING you can do with peoples credit card info that would not do some unsuspecting person harm. Someone said well what about the banks, that doesn't harm a person right? I think that is debatable. Have you ever lost your wallet or had it stolen... I bet it did hurt you to go and get all new credit cards or wait for the bank to complete its fraud investigation before they give you your money back... which can take weeks. Plus ripping off the bank does eventually find it's way back to your pocket in higher fees to cover losses.
So your original question was: Many kinds of forgeries are available on the road, but there is no identity theft allowed? Why is this?
After reading the responses by Christy and the others I think they did a good job of answering you. I hope this ends the discussion as it really serves no purpose to debate or argue about why someone can't sell this or that.
DPR set this site in motion but in the end it is the Buyers and Vendors who make Silk Road what it is... we like it like this... we DON'T want CP, Hitmen, Credit Card info, etc being sold or traded here. It isn't what we are about. If that is what you are about then SR may not be for you.
Thanks,
TJ
+1 and it does eventually cost all of us...:(
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It is rather simple when you think about it... virtually everything that is sold here from Drugs to ID's to Porn is mainly for personal consumption/use that falls into the DPR category of 'Do No Harm'. Now obviously meth is not a harmless substance and ID's could be used by terrorists to do harm but the main purpose and the reason they are allowed here is the 'Main' use for these items is of a personal nature. People buy drugs to get high, they buy ID's to open PO Boxes, they buy Porn to beat off... bank account info, credit card info, etc.. is not harmless by it's very nature. There is absolutely NOTHING you can do with peoples credit card info that would not do some unsuspecting person harm. Someone said well what about the banks, that doesn't harm a person right? I think that is debatable. Have you ever lost your wallet or had it stolen... I bet it did hurt you to go and get all new credit cards or wait for the bank to complete its fraud investigation before they give you your money back... which can take weeks. Plus ripping off the bank does eventually find it's way back to your pocket in higher fees to cover losses.
So your original question was: Many kinds of forgeries are available on the road, but there is no identity theft allowed? Why is this?
After reading the responses by Christy and the others I think they did a good job of answering you. I hope this ends the discussion as it really serves no purpose to debate or argue about why someone can't sell this or that.
DPR set this site in motion but in the end it is the Buyers and Vendors who make Silk Road what it is... we like it like this... we DON'T want CP, Hitmen, Credit Card info, etc being sold or traded here. It isn't what we are about. If that is what you are about then SR may not be for you.
Thanks,
TJ
+ 420! :)
very well said. nice post TJ
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It is rather simple when you think about it... virtually everything that is sold here from Drugs to ID's to Porn is mainly for personal consumption/use that falls into the DPR category of 'Do No Harm'. Now obviously meth is not a harmless substance and ID's could be used by terrorists to do harm but the main purpose and the reason they are allowed here is the 'Main' use for these items is of a personal nature. People buy drugs to get high, they buy ID's to open PO Boxes, they buy Porn to beat off... bank account info, credit card info, etc.. is not harmless by it's very nature. There is absolutely NOTHING you can do with peoples credit card info that would not do some unsuspecting person harm. Someone said well what about the banks, that doesn't harm a person right? I think that is debatable. Have you ever lost your wallet or had it stolen... I bet it did hurt you to go and get all new credit cards or wait for the bank to complete its fraud investigation before they give you your money back... which can take weeks. Plus ripping off the bank does eventually find it's way back to your pocket in higher fees to cover losses.
So your original question was: Many kinds of forgeries are available on the road, but there is no identity theft allowed? Why is this?
After reading the responses by Christy and the others I think they did a good job of answering you. I hope this ends the discussion as it really serves no purpose to debate or argue about why someone can't sell this or that.
DPR set this site in motion but in the end it is the Buyers and Vendors who make Silk Road what it is... we like it like this... we DON'T want CP, Hitmen, Credit Card info, etc being sold or traded here. It isn't what we are about. If that is what you are about then SR may not be for you.
Thanks,
TJ
It is rather simple when you think about it... virtually everything that is sold here from Drugs to ID's to Porn is mainly for personal consumption/use that falls into the DPR category of 'Do No Harm'. Now obviously meth is not a harmless substance and ID's could be used by terrorists to do harm but the main purpose and the reason they are allowed here is the 'Main' use for these items is of a personal nature. People buy drugs to get high, they buy ID's to open PO Boxes, they buy Porn to beat off... bank account info, credit card info, etc.. is not harmless by it's very nature. There is absolutely NOTHING you can do with peoples credit card info that would not do some unsuspecting person harm. Someone said well what about the banks, that doesn't harm a person right? I think that is debatable. Have you ever lost your wallet or had it stolen... I bet it did hurt you to go and get all new credit cards or wait for the bank to complete its fraud investigation before they give you your money back... which can take weeks. Plus ripping off the bank does eventually find it's way back to your pocket in higher fees to cover losses.
So your original question was: Many kinds of forgeries are available on the road, but there is no identity theft allowed? Why is this?
After reading the responses by Christy and the others I think they did a good job of answering you. I hope this ends the discussion as it really serves no purpose to debate or argue about why someone can't sell this or that.
DPR set this site in motion but in the end it is the Buyers and Vendors who make Silk Road what it is... we like it like this... we DON'T want CP, Hitmen, Credit Card info, etc being sold or traded here. It isn't what we are about. If that is what you are about then SR may not be for you.
Thanks,
TJ
Damn that was brilliant, these words should resonate for all time
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Best way I could put it is this isn't a place a criminality, it's simply a market supplying the average person with a product they can't get since society has banned it.
I would probably be wrong if I said society though. Rather assholes pushing society into thinking drugs = crime when in reality it's flipped: crime feeds off of illegal drugs.
Point I'm trying to make is that I sense that you feel this is a place we're criminals crawl and morals are discarded. It's not that at all. It's a market were people come to independently make a choice to buy and use a product.
I can't see any relation to this marketplace and words like 'stolen' or 'theft'.