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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: TrustusJones on June 27, 2012, 08:48 pm

Title: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: TrustusJones on June 27, 2012, 08:48 pm
The website is: http://jjie.org/silk-road-deep-webs-darkest-corner/88570 (DO NOT CLICK THE LINK UNLESS YOU KNOW YOU ARE SECURE!!)

Here is the article:

Traveling The Silk Road to the Deep Web’s Darkest Corner

Via a popular online service, cocaine, prescription pills and heroin may just be a mouse click away from reaching your child

There is a scene in Steven Soderbergh’s 2000 film Traffic in which a teenage girl says something that has become, for the most part, a generally recognized truth about high school.

“For someone my age,” the character says, “it’s a lot easier to get drugs than it is to get alcohol.”

Indeed, typing the term “easier to get drugs than alcohol” into a Google search box returns more than 12,000 pages, with thousands upon thousands of Internet users stating what many parents fear – that for their children, obtaining illegal drugs is anything but a challenge.

What most parents are unaware of, however, is how the Internet is potentially making it even easier for youth to obtain drugs. In the 21st century, teens do not necessarily have to seek out dealers to procure marijuana or cocaine; in fact, scoring illicit substances these days could be as simple as turning on a monitor and making a few mouse clicks.

At first glance, the Silk Road – a popular online marketplace – looks like any other website; just passing by, one likely wouldn’t be able to distinguish the service from eBay, Craigslist or any of the myriad other electronic bazaars on the Internet.

But a closer look at the site reveals that the Silk Road is anything but just another Amazon clone. Marijuana, cocaine, party drugs such as ecstasy, heroin and even some illegal weapons can all be traded, bought and sold on the site – which, fundamentally, can be accessed by anyone technologically savvy enough to find it.

Dr. Monica Barratt of Australia’s National Drug Research Institute said that – even for the ordinary Internet user – discovering how to locate the service isn’t too difficult a task.

“I think that anyone with average Internet and computer skills could work out how to access the site within half an hour or less,” she said.

“However, it is one technical hurdle to access the site and another entirely to work out how to purchase drugs, and importantly, how to purchase drugs in ways that do not leave behind a trail of evidence.”

The Silk Road, a service beloved by techies and loathed by federal officials, is every bit as enigmatic as it is controversial. As with the nameless, faceless constituency of Anonymous – the world famous cadre of hackers that frequently target government and corporate websites – even the FBI’s most skilled trackers can have trouble fingering exactly who is operating the service, let alone where the physical location of the Silk Road’s mainframe actually is.

“I don’t think that anyone except the owner/s know where Silk Road is being hosted,” Dr. Barratt said. “Silk Road is a lucrative enterprise for the owner/s who take a commission from all sales, so I can only speculate that the owner/s would take great care to protect the site by continuing to mask the location of the hosting and any infrastructure involved.”

To many, the mystery of the Silk Road’s ownership is irrelevant; what’s important, they say, is that the site – somehow, someway – gets shut down.

The service, once called the “Amazon.com of illegal drugs” by National Public Radio, was a major bull’s eye in the crosshairs for legislators backing – and justifying- this year’s failed Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), with New York Sen. Charles Schumer describing the site as the “most brazen attempt to peddle drugs online” he had ever encountered.

The identity of who actually runs the service remains a mystery. Periodically, an administrator with the username “Silk Road” will post “official” statements on the Silk Road forums, and occasionally send what are essentially press releases to the media. According to the site’s apparent “admin,” what he or she (or potentially, they) provides is a relatively harmless service.

“Over 99 percent of all transactions conducted within the escrow system are completed to the satisfaction of both buyer and seller, or a mutually agreed upon is found,” the site’s administrator has posted on the Silk Road forums. Even so, the operators of the service do seem to have their limits as to what can be sold or exchanged on the site.

“Please do not list anything who’s purpose is to harm or defraud, such as stolen credit cards, counterfeit currency, personal info, assassinations and weapons of mass destruction,” one admin post reads.

Attempts to shut down the Silk Road, however, have proven incredibly difficult for U.S. agencies. While officials shut down MegaUpload – a Hong Kong-quartered file-swapping service frequently accused of promoting online piracy – earlier this year, United States officials have had little luck in their efforts to yank the site down, or even in determining who is running the service.

One reason it has been difficult to track down the physical source of the service is because, technically, the site isn’t part of the World Wide Web most Internet users are familiar with. Instead of entering a URL into a search box, the only way users can access the Silk Road is through the use of an anonymity network. The most popular of these is called Tor. This network masks browsers’ Internet Protocol (IP) addresses, which are specific numerical sequences that correspond to fixed geographical locations.

Essentially, when users hook into an anonymity network, their actual locations are hidden from all but the most advanced analytic software, making third party tracking extremely difficult if not impossible.

Andrew Lewman, executive director of the Tor Project, said that his company simply provides a service and the applications users find for IP maskers is something they have no control over.

“Silk Road is just a website that happens to use Tor’s hidden services,” he said. “Tor’s hidden services just give you an address, sort of like an IP address or a street address. What you do with the address is up to you.”

He said that the “deep web” – the portion of the Internet where sites such as The Silk Road are hidden – is a difficult concept to define.

“People think of the deep web like an iceberg,” Lewman explained. The average Internet user, he said, only sees the part above the water line, but the iceberg—the whole of the Internet—continues on deep under the surface of the water, hidden from view. “We generally call it the hidden web,” he added.

But Lewman is quick to point out that much of the deep web—the bulk of the iceberg under the water—is hidden for good reason.

“Things like your bank account are included in the hidden web,” Lewman said, “because you put a username and password in front of it—probably because you don’t want Google” to add your bank account to its index of websites.

Additionally, Lewman said that IP masking software has many security applications, especially for business data and journalists wishing to insure anonymity for sources.

“The majority usage of Tor is by just normal people, looking to protect their privacy online,” he said. “It’s sort of unfortunate that the press and media seem to jump all over the negative uses far more than the positive uses.”

To insure optimal levels of user anonymity, the Silk Road service uses a transaction system that sounds like it was lifted from a science-fiction novel. Silk Road customers do not exchange physical money on the site, nor do they exchange goods via credit cards or other online banking services, such as PayPal. Rather, Silk Road users pay for items listed on the marketplace with a form of electronic currency called Bitcoins.

“There are a number of ways that Bitcoins can be obtained and some of these ways differ between countries,” Dr. Barratt said. While Bitcoins can be purchased online through credit cards and bank accounts, she said many users prefer to use throwaway credit-cards or gift cards to make their purchases more anonymous. After Silk Road users obtain Bitcoins, they deposit them into accounts, which are then filtered through a tumbling service built into the site. Although this makes transactions more difficult to trace, Dr. Barratt said that the process still isn’t a completely anonymous one.

“Bitcoins can be used relatively anonymously, like cash, but can potentially also be used in traceable ways,” she said. “For example, if one bought Bitcoins with their credit card and then transferred the same amount into their Silk Road account to buy drugs, it may be possible to link these transactions through piecing together the amounts [and] the times of the transfers/transactions.”

While the computer know-how required to access the site and engage in commerce is most likely beyond the skill set of most juveniles, there is a possibility that more technologically adept youth could use the service to procure illegal goods. And even those lacking advanced technical knowledge don’t have to search the Web for too long to find information on how to access the Silk Road, as a number of how-to tutorials are available and easy to find on video hosting sites such as YouTube.

“I think that a teenager with modest technical skill would be able to access Silk Road, though it may be a bit more difficult for them to access Bitcoin in order to actually make a purchase,” Dr. Barratt said. “There are no age restrictions on Silk Road, not that age restrictions ever stopped teenagers from accessing other websites with restricted content.”

Dr. Barratt said that although the packaging used for Silk Road deliveries are usually intended to fool mail delivery systems and law enforcement agencies, she believes that the ultimate safeguard against the service may be mom and dad themselves.

“Of course, the drugs then need to be sent to an appropriate postal address,” she said. “For teens living at home, it can be a little harder to control who opens your mail.”

Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Limetless on June 27, 2012, 09:11 pm
Jonesy go out to the garden shed and fetch my gun, I'm just gunna stick the kettle of for a cup of tea and then it's time to go journo hunting....
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: TrustusJones on June 27, 2012, 09:14 pm
Jonesy go out to the garden shed and fetch my gun, I'm just gunna stick the kettle of for a cup of tea and then it's time to go journo hunting....

got it boss!!  ;-)
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Limetless on June 27, 2012, 09:20 pm
Did you clock what the guy looked like at the bottom of the article as well? He looks the type you could dress up in a French-maids outfit and get him to dance without too much trouble...
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: bogben on June 27, 2012, 09:47 pm
That could be much much worse - the Sun in the UK called it "evil.com"......the amount of people that read that piece of excrement makes me dispair for the UK :'(
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Limetless on June 27, 2012, 09:52 pm
That could be much much worse - the Sun in the UK called it "evil.com"......the amount of people that read that piece of excrement makes me dispair for the UK :'(

Yeah don't worry, I'm going down to Fleet Street with a large box of 9mms tomorrow. The world will be back in sync soon enough....  ;)
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: oscarzululondon on June 27, 2012, 10:00 pm
“Of course, the drugs then need to be sent to an appropriate postal address,” she said. “For teens living at home, it can be a little harder to control who opens your mail.”

So Dr. Barratt is recommending that people open other peoples post. Parents or not, in the US that is a federal offense and in the UK amounts to treason as the Royal Mail belongs to the Queen and she personally guarantees safe delivery to end recipient. Many people go to prison for that every year, and for long sentences too.

Also if the parent opens the post containing the drugs, the kid can turn around, deny everything, and say the parent was buying the drugs for themselves in the kids name which is a doubly worse offense than just buying drugs.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: RunningLion on June 27, 2012, 10:45 pm
the more publicity sr gets, the more the cryptoanarchic revolution rolls on, but the more of a canary in a coal mine sr becomes. win-win for private scene agorists is the way i see it :)

Thanks for rubbing our noses in it. Cocksucker.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Wazup7 on June 27, 2012, 11:34 pm
So in the beginning and in the end, the article is about kids buying drugs on line?  I always have believed that if kids are smart enough to complete an entire transaction successfully on SR, then they deserve what htey are purchasing.  And if they're that adept, they are probably adept enough to use whatever they buy responsibly.  Either way, kids using SR isn't really a problem.   

SR makes it easier to use drugs responsibly and safely.  Write a piece on that!

Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: retina on June 27, 2012, 11:56 pm
"Dr. Barratt said that although the packaging used for Silk Road deliveries are usually intended to fool mail delivery systems and law enforcement agencies, she believes that the ultimate safeguard against the service may be mom and dad themselves."

FUCKING AMEN! Stop with the fucking fear and fear mongering. Spend some fucking time with your kids and they might feel good enough about themselves to not OD on some fucking whack shit cause they were all fucked up from your shitty parenting.

If the road went wah wah, I oonly here in my head "If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine"

I think it'd be a big mistake to take down sr. Seriously.

At leeset they mentioned how sr claims 99% satisfied commercers!
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: UKGrower on June 28, 2012, 12:12 pm
Bullshit article like most of the others, but at least they kept the Tor network out of the firing line by pointing out it's legitimate uses.

As for the "think of the children" shite, surely SR is a step in the right direction?  Traditional distribution methods have never required ID or proof of age either, but at least SR provides a sort of IQ test, which filters out the dumb kids who would be more likely to behave irresponsibly or recklessly with these kind of products.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Kappacino on June 28, 2012, 12:18 pm
I'm forming a cabal of people to get together and brutally rape this journalist and destroy his rectum, carving the words "WRITE A STORY ON THIS BITCH" down his spine, in backwards lettering, so he can see it in the mirror.

I think it might send a message.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Limetless on June 28, 2012, 12:21 pm
I'm forming a cabal of people to get together and brutally rape this journalist and destroy his rectum, carving the words "WRITE A STORY ON THIS BITCH" down his spine, in backwards lettering, so he can see it in the mirror.

I think it might send a message.

Do it with a Stanley and then you can stripe him after. :)
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Kappacino on June 28, 2012, 12:24 pm
I'm forming a cabal of people to get together and brutally rape this journalist and destroy his rectum, carving the words "WRITE A STORY ON THIS BITCH" down his spine, in backwards lettering, so he can see it in the mirror.

I think it might send a message.

Do it with a Stanley and then you can stripe him after. :)

I was thinking of doing it with a soldering iron just for full effect

But I've just had an idea.. You should get some custom stanleys made and sell them on BMR.. With custom graphics saying "The Limetless Striper" down the side, plus a boss colour scheme

People would genuinely buy that shit, plus I imagine it'd feel BOSS if you suddenly started hearing reports of them being found at crime scenes across the world

Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: UKGrower on June 28, 2012, 12:27 pm
^^Fuck yeah, i'd buy one.   :D
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Limetless on June 28, 2012, 12:38 pm
Lol tbh that would be cool.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: FredLint on June 28, 2012, 12:47 pm
I'm forming a cabal of people to get together and brutally rape this journalist and destroy his rectum, carving the words "WRITE A STORY ON THIS BITCH" down his spine, in backwards lettering, so he can see it in the mirror.

I think it might send a message.

Do it with a Stanley and then you can stripe him after. :)

I was thinking of doing it with a soldering iron just for full effect

But I've just had an idea.. You should get some custom stanleys made and sell them on BMR.. With custom graphics saying "The Limetless Striper" down the side, plus a boss colour scheme

People would genuinely buy that shit, plus I imagine it'd feel BOSS if you suddenly started hearing reports of them being found at crime scenes across the world

My goodness people! ...... Ohhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Take a BIG chill pill please!
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Limetless on June 28, 2012, 12:50 pm
Lol, yeah true. All just idle chat though dude. Never gunna happen.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Limetless on June 28, 2012, 01:24 pm
Lol. The thing is I'm not fussed they don't mention the best really. I'm bothered about the fact nobody actually ever really reports on SR properly, they just mention Bing and Smack. Bing and Smack because Bing and Smack + the phrase "IN THE HANDS OF CHILDREN"  makes sensational story lines. All so fucking predictable and all so rinsed and repeated. Even the public, if they are honest, couldn't give a flying fuck about the stories that come out about SR. They know it's there but it doesn't intervene in their daily lives so they don't actually give a flying fuck. Also they don't bother really reporting on everything there is here which is annoying as fuck because it shows even more they are only going for what creates hype. Bullshit way to b informative if there ever was one.

SR is, I would say, the most non-intrusive method of procuring drugs there is. By that I mean people only are here that want to be here and it sure-as-shit isn't looked for by people who don't use it why not just leave it alone? There has been enough articles about it now, we all get it and we all k now its here, clearly nobody is REALLY that bothered and in a perfect world that would be end of story. But it ain't perfect, it's annoying.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: deliric on June 28, 2012, 03:11 pm
Nicely written, almost objective article. Informative, yet it let's you make your own opinion about things. Good journalism.
They just presented the facts as they really are. Really impressive for a website called Juvenile Justice. I was expecting them to rain shit down on Silk Road. But no, pretty good.
They didn't put CP in with Silk Road, apart from some really shitty statements, all of it was objective, mostly.

Any kid reading that article will think: "Holy shit, I gotta get me some of that - *google's silk road*"

+1 for SR :)

Now let's see more users on the website and a corresponding rise of value in Bitcoins. Stock up on BTC while they're cheap.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: LainOfTheWired1984 on June 29, 2012, 07:46 pm
Thanks for posting this, it's always important to see what people are saying about SR and the whole underground scene anyway. If anyone else knows of any articles please post them!

Of course minus the Gawker articles, lol
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: kryptoz on June 29, 2012, 08:40 pm
There's a lot of Pulp Fiction references floating around here.   :o

I noticed that as well :P

Interesting article, nothings sacred anymore unfortunately, then people still get miss led  :-\
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Twelve_Pickles on July 05, 2012, 12:22 pm
Quote

At first glance, the Silk Road – a popular online marketplace – looks like any other website; just passing by, one likely wouldn’t be able to distinguish the service from eBay, Craigslist or any of the myriad other electronic bazaars on the Internet.

LooL Since when did either of these 'bazaars' require a specific encrypted anonymous browser to access. where please do any of these places main page open with three login boxes, no logos and one link to join or following registration open onto a page with 9 tile narcotics pictures & a list of Drugs,money & electronic services??? sheesh. Lim go ape down fleet street please, and take a fucking shotgun to Murdoch while your at it.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: joepinko on July 05, 2012, 02:24 pm
Dr. Barret is far from an "enemy" folks... she has been around the "scene" for a long time.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: StrawCat on July 05, 2012, 03:33 pm
even the FBI’s most skilled trackers can have trouble fingering exactly who is operating the service,


 :o ??  :o
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Gupta on July 05, 2012, 03:54 pm
"RESPONSIBLE DRUG USERS ORDER FROM THE INTERNET AND STAY OFF THE STREETS. POLICE BAFFLED. STORY AT 10."

Where is that story?
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: starrynight on July 05, 2012, 06:58 pm
But what about the children?????????.........................................
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Banjo on July 05, 2012, 08:46 pm
I love how heroin is a, "party drug, like ecstasy" and that the site, "looks just like an Amazon clone, at first glance" That happens to me all the time. I load up silk road, only to get immediately confused and try to log in with my amazon credentials. After several failed login attempts, I'm like, "awww fuck! This is silk road, lol! Why can't they get their own design so it's not so confusing?"
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: vlad1m1r on July 05, 2012, 11:44 pm
I'm forming a cabal of people to get together and brutally rape this journalist and destroy his rectum, carving the words "WRITE A STORY ON THIS BITCH" down his spine, in backwards lettering, so he can see it in the mirror.

I think it might send a message.

What about freedom of the press? :-D

V.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: LeisureLass on July 06, 2012, 12:49 am
"RESPONSIBLE DRUG USERS ORDER FROM THE INTERNET AND STAY OFF THE STREETS. POLICE BAFFLED. STORY AT 10."

Where is that story?

The journo that wrote about Tony76 wrote that http://allthingsvice.wordpress.com/2012/06/07/why-politicians-and-law-enforcement-should-embrace-silk-road/
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Mrfungi on July 06, 2012, 01:20 am
Nicely written, almost objective article. Informative, yet it let's you make your own opinion about things. Good journalism.
They just presented the facts as they really are. Really impressive for a website called Juvenile Justice. I was expecting them to rain shit down on Silk Road. But no, pretty good.
They didn't put CP in with Silk Road, apart from some really shitty statements, all of it was objective, mostly.

Any kid reading that article will think: "Holy shit, I gotta get me some of that - *google's silk road*"

+1 for SR :)

Now let's see more users on the website and a corresponding rise of value in Bitcoins. Stock up on BTC while they're cheap.

What the hell are you talking about? That was one of the worst examples of writing I've ever seen published. I think he must be geeked out on something the way he jumps back and forth, one sentence completely unrelated to the next, within the same paragraph.

I wouldn't quite describe it as objective, either.

Any 9th grader should be able to put together a better article.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: BigScrote on July 06, 2012, 04:06 am
I love how heroin is a, "party drug, like ecstasy" and that the site, "looks just like an Amazon clone, at first glance" That happens to me all the time. I load up silk road, only to get immediately confused and try to log in with my amazon credentials. After several failed login attempts, I'm like, "awww fuck! This is silk road, lol! Why can't they get their own design so it's not so confusing?"

LOL!

Wish I could give you +1.



Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: gaia on July 06, 2012, 01:42 pm
What a load of shite. Kids don't need to use SR to get drugs, they are a big part of youth culture and easily accessible to anyone under the age of 25. I'm an old fucker who has no good contacts, and I'm sure I'm far from alone in that here on SR.

And besides, irrespective of age, I would say that using SR to purchase drugs is possibly the best form of HR you can take; the quality and purity is about as good as you can get, which is the other reason I come here. The average 16-18 year old would be scared off by the price anyway. Why pay this kind of money when they can buy some unknown white powder off their mates for £40 on the g. Quality and safety indeed.

Nah, this article is just another excuse for a cheap shot of shit to remind people we're still here.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Raoul Duke on July 06, 2012, 02:07 pm
"RESPONSIBLE DRUG USERS ORDER FROM THE INTERNET AND STAY OFF THE STREETS. POLICE BAFFLED. STORY AT 10."

Where is that story?

The journo that wrote about Tony76 wrote that http://allthingsvice.wordpress.com/2012/06/07/why-politicians-and-law-enforcement-should-embrace-silk-road/

there should be more ship like this released. then we might stop hating journos so much
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: kryptoz on July 06, 2012, 04:09 pm
I love how heroin is a, "party drug, like ecstasy" and that the site, "looks just like an Amazon clone, at first glance" That happens to me all the time. I load up silk road, only to get immediately confused and try to log in with my amazon credentials. After several failed login attempts, I'm like, "awww fuck! This is silk road, lol! Why can't they get their own design so it's not so confusing?"

LOL!

Wish I could give you +1.

Did it for you :)
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: blackend646 on July 06, 2012, 05:03 pm
I love how heroin is a, "party drug, like ecstasy"

I've gotta say, that would absolutely be the most dead party ever thrown.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: monicabarratt on July 08, 2012, 01:18 am
“I think that a teenager with modest technical skill would be able to access Silk Road, though it may be a bit more difficult for them to access Bitcoin in order to actually make a purchase,” Dr. Barratt said. “There are no age restrictions on Silk Road, not that age restrictions ever stopped teenagers from accessing other websites with restricted content.”

Dr. Barratt said that although the packaging used for Silk Road deliveries are usually intended to fool mail delivery systems and law enforcement agencies, she believes that the ultimate safeguard against the service may be mom and dad themselves.

“Of course, the drugs then need to be sent to an appropriate postal address,” she said. “For teens living at home, it can be a little harder to control who opens your mail.”

Hi all... yes this is my first post, though, of course, I've been lurking for about 12 months!

I just didn't want to let this one go without correcting it. You can see how James Swift has quoted me then added his linking sentence in between. Well I was not in any way suggesting that parents should open their children's mail. I just said it may be a little hard for teenagers living at home to control who opens their mail. So I wasn't very happy with how the journalist 'interpreted' my comment.

I also liked it how the journalist asked me who owns Silk Road. Like I'd know...!

And I'd add that not all journalists are against SR. Eileen Ormsby is definitely one to watch for well written and balanced articles in my opinion. And I've met her - she's great :)
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: TrustusJones on July 09, 2012, 03:17 pm
so you are 'the' Dr. Monica Barratt of Australia’s National Drug Research Institute?

you will forgive me for my skepticism as I find it hard to believe you would post here...

so let me ask you a question... there is an article from AFP about the busts in May: (here is a quote from the article)
“Today’s arrests are yet another example of Australian law enforcement agencies sharing information, intelligence and resources to bring criminals to account,”

Do you believe people who use drugs are criminals?
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Limetless on July 09, 2012, 03:24 pm
Nah TJ they TOTES areeee. I'm also Nelson Mandella's left nut which is named Wilson.....  ::)
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: LeisureLass on July 10, 2012, 07:00 am
so you are 'the' Dr. Monica Barratt of Australia’s National Drug Research Institute?

you will forgive me for my skepticism as I find it hard to believe you would post here...

Why?  A drug research institute isn't LE.

Do you believe people who use drugs are criminals?

By definition anyone who uses drugs (where drug use is a crime) is a criminal.  You might need to rephrase your question.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: monicabarratt on July 27, 2012, 11:30 am
so you are 'the' Dr. Monica Barratt of Australia’s National Drug Research Institute?

you will forgive me for my skepticism as I find it hard to believe you would post here...

so let me ask you a question... there is an article from AFP about the busts in May: (here is a quote from the article)
“Today’s arrests are yet another example of Australian law enforcement agencies sharing information, intelligence and resources to bring criminals to account,”

Do you believe people who use drugs are criminals?

Hi there... good question. My view on drugs is that they can be used well and badly - it's not the type of drug that makes it dangerous, it is the way it is used, the context of use, the care or lack of it, its purity, how much information is available to inform the drug user, etc.

Of course under the current prohibition laws, drug users are regarded as criminals, but it is counterproductive. People have been altering their conscious state for millenia using plant or chemical substances as well as religious and spiritual experiences and rituals. It's part of what makes us human (although also many animals have this propensity too).

And yes, it is me. I'm skilling myself up on all the technologies used here at the moment, including PGP. Just launched TAILS for first time today and will be exploring Liberte too. Then I'll sort out my own GPG keys and will have a real way of authenticating myself :)
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: sitamaja1 on July 27, 2012, 09:28 pm
I love how heroin is a, "party drug, like ecstasy" and that the site, "looks just like an Amazon clone, at first glance" That happens to me all the time. I load up silk road, only to get immediately confused and try to log in with my amazon credentials. After several failed login attempts, I'm like, "awww fuck! This is silk road, lol! Why can't they get their own design so it's not so confusing?"

LOL!

Wish I could give you +1.

LOL TOO! :D And I'm giving this a +1 :D
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: tpebop on July 27, 2012, 11:09 pm
Very poorly written.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: pine on July 27, 2012, 11:22 pm
And yes, it is me. I'm skilling myself up on all the technologies used here at the moment, including PGP. Just launched TAILS for first time today and will be exploring Liberte too. Then I'll sort out my own GPG keys and will have a real way of authenticating myself :)

Hi Monica, 

We on the Silk Road think yourself and Eileen Ormsby are cool cats! If you need any help getting used to GPG, then PM me or pop down to the PGP Club Thread in my sig.

Cheers!

Pine
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: pine on July 27, 2012, 11:24 pm
I love how heroin is a, "party drug, like ecstasy" and that the site, "looks just like an Amazon clone, at first glance" That happens to me all the time. I load up silk road, only to get immediately confused and try to log in with my amazon credentials. After several failed login attempts, I'm like, "awww fuck! This is silk road, lol! Why can't they get their own design so it's not so confusing?"

Think I hurt myself laughing :D

Time for a coffee break!
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: monicabarratt on July 29, 2012, 11:00 pm
We on the Silk Road think yourself and Eileen Ormsby are cool cats! If you need any help getting used to GPG, then PM me or pop down to the PGP Club Thread in my sig.

Hi Pine, thanks for the support :) Will definitely take you up on the offer of assistance with encryption - once I get some of the other work off my desk and can get back into SR, which (of course) is the most fun part of my job!
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: jamihebel on July 29, 2012, 11:31 pm
I would like to remind everyone here that violence really isn't the answer, especially not in situations like this.  This person has the right to publish whatever bunk article he wants on Silk Road.  Freedom of the press.  The truth will always win out above these false allegations.

Silk Road is not about being violent, it's about being secure and anonymous.  As long as it remains those two things, it really doesn't matter how much media coverage the Road receives.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: Christy Nugs on July 30, 2012, 02:33 am
I'm forming a cabal of people to get together and brutally rape this journalist and destroy his rectum, carving the words "WRITE A STORY ON THIS BITCH" down his spine, in backwards lettering, so he can see it in the mirror.

I think it might send a message.

I would pay a dollar to see that one!!
I'm really not fond of douchebags...waste of good air.

What about freedom of the press? :-D

V.

The press really? i would actually describe them as propagandists!!!

Edit: Sometimes, jamihebel , violence is the only answer. Peace through VICTORY!!
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: pine on July 30, 2012, 01:34 pm
Lots of angry people recently, including at least kmf, pine (unusual!) and miss nugs heading in the direction of the barricades. I think there is a heat wave affecting us or something, people tend to become more impulsive when temperatures are higher which is why (real) LE dread them, you always get waves of domestics/gangland violence when the mercury rises.
Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: flwrchlds9 on July 31, 2012, 03:33 am
ive read many of these publicity is good/bad threads. Don't understand what you guys are smoking, but it's ** BAD **.

wait until all the parents start screaming and little jimmy over doses and says he bought it online at SR. u rly think after that much attention somethings not going to happen??

when these things hit MSMedia, it starts the countdown to finished.

Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: h4xx on July 31, 2012, 10:34 pm
When I was in highschool my parents opened all my mail. I was also too broke to ever go rent a PO box when I could just spend that money on beer and get drunk as fuck in some parking lot  with all my friends. That and every highschool has established dealers for anything, I didn't need to mail order. I guarantee every school has a student selling drugs who get's it from his older siblings, or knows somebody who does.

At one highschool I went to the derelict house across the street was inhabited by 3 kids who were kicked out of school that peddled drugs all day and night. They were never busted. Everybody knew about the place, and they even had giant out of control cop attracting parties yet I can't remember any of them getting busted for trafficking.

Mail order is like, 1% of the world's drug supply if that. Media likes to focus on it because it's futuristic and interesting to the reader. That's why hackers, craigslist rapists and other internet crimes get so much press



Title: Re: New Silk Road Article from Juvenile Justice Website
Post by: flwrchlds9 on August 01, 2012, 01:51 am
Mail order is like, 1% of the world's drug supply if that. Media likes to focus on it because it's futuristic and interesting to the reader. That's why hackers, craigslist rapists and other internet crimes get so much press

and also because it brings these things "into your living room" instead of being 'things you find outside in dark alleys' ....

do not underestimate the power of fear and "protecting the children".

sadly clock is ticking.