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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: blowmymind on May 08, 2012, 06:41 pm
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Do any of you purchase and then spend your time freaking out and worrying about the consequences if things go.....wrong. I have had myself worried sick, no slip ups yet, the whole thing is quite the rush..albeit scary at times. Surely i cant be alone here?
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Haha, that is all just part of the dance my friend. :)
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Do any of you purchase and then spend your time freaking out and worrying about the consequences if things go.....wrong. I have had myself worried sick, no slip ups yet, the whole thing is quite the rush..albeit scary at times. Surely i cant be alone here?
walking on the darkside can be fun for a noob... till it is no longer just a walk...
I remember years ago when I started my trek... thinking I was cool cause I 'knew' how things really were... till I got busted the first time and spent 8 years in a cell...
So yes... it can be fun but always remember there are some VERY serious ramifications to yourself and your family if things go really REALLY wrong...
Just protect yourself and NEVER EVER admit to anything... the only thing out of your mouth should be "I want to speak to a lawyer"
Good luck and don't get too enamored with this lifestyle...
TJ
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Do any of you purchase and then spend your time freaking out and worrying about the consequences if things go.....wrong. I have had myself worried sick, no slip ups yet, the whole thing is quite the rush..albeit scary at times. Surely i cant be alone here?
walking on the darkside can be fun for a noob... till it is no longer just a walk...
I remember years ago when I started my trek... thinking I was cool cause I 'knew' how things really were... till I got busted the first time and spent 8 years in a cell...
So yes... it can be fun but always remember there are some VERY serious ramifications to yourself and your family if things go really REALLY wrong...
Just protect yourself and NEVER EVER admit to anything... the only thing out of your mouth should be "I want to speak to a lawyer"
Good luck and don't get too enamored with this lifestyle...
TJ
Truer words were never spoken. 8 years Jones? FML that must have been hard.
And yeah, just to reiterate the point please read and remember the following - DON'T SAY ANYTHING, ASK FOR A LAWYER/SOLICITOR WHO TRAINED HOW TO SAY THINGS. DO. NOT. SAY. ANYTHING. APART. FROM... "I would like to have a lawyer please."
Also if you are just buying small then the likelihood of you getting nicked is smaller than minor and even if it does get caught the likelihood of them following up a cheeky gram of whatever Trevor is even more minor. Just don't get thinking that means you can start buying grams of LSD....you are fucked if you are caught with that. :P
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Well my purchases have been small but numerous. One purchase has been lost and a few others are very slow but from respected vendors with great feedback, Once they all clear i really need to step back. Been really putting myself through undue stress!
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Glad things have worked out in most cases BMM... just play safe and keep security FOREMOST in your mind and don't sweat the morons who give bad advice or TROLL... unfortunately there are more of them than there are of us...
Take care!! TJ
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Thanks man, Its refreshing to hear from such a genuine member!
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unfortunately there are more of them than there are of us...
This is true but being in the smart minority just means you are gangster! ;P
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its better to think this way then to be over confident :) if you get cocky then you get careless
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I did the first month I joined, but then I stopped giving a fuck. I have nothing else in my life at this point to look forward to other than being an angry bitter old man that hates our youth, so either I continue doing drugs or I jump off the Golden Gate Bridge. :(
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I did the first month I joined, but then I stopped giving a fuck. I have nothing else in my life at this point to look forward to other than being an angry bitter old man that hates our youth, so either I continue doing drugs or I jump off the Golden Gate Bridge. :(
+10,000
But I was thinking skydiving on like 30 hits of LSD. No parachute.
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I did the first month I joined, but then I stopped giving a fuck. I have nothing else in my life at this point to look forward to other than being an angry bitter old man that hates our youth, so either I continue doing drugs or I jump off the Golden Gate Bridge. :(
+10,000
But I was thinking skydiving on like 30 hits of LSD. No parachute.
You soldier.
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I did the first month I joined, but then I stopped giving a fuck. I have nothing else in my life at this point to look forward to other than being an angry bitter old man that hates our youth, so either I continue doing drugs or I jump off the Golden Gate Bridge. :(
+10,000
But I was thinking skydiving on like 30 hits of LSD. No parachute.
I love pondering the possibilities of death such as this. Personally, I would go with a thumbprint of LSD and a wing-suit to fly through the mountains of Norway until......WHAM!! Face meet mountain, mountain meet face.
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I read a trip report on erowid where some guy took a monster toke of DMT and dove out of a plane, probably BS but it was an interesting read :P
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I'll be getting several orders from several different orders. The packages will probably be arriving around the same time.
I'm worried sick.
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I read a trip report on erowid where some guy took a monster toke of DMT and dove out of a plane, probably BS but it was an interesting read :P
That sounds like the most amazing thing ever, if someone really did do that they'd probably just evolve into pure energy haha.
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http://www.shroomery.org/9675/Godlike-DMT-Skydiving-Experience
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I'll be getting several orders from several different orders. The packages will probably be arriving around the same time.
I'm worried sick.
Not gonna lie, I'd probably be freaking out if I had a ton of orders coming to me at the same time. But I'm sure all will be fine. In the future, maybe just order one at a time so you have one less thing for your anxiety to fixate on (One getting caught, you getting caught, then the others subsequently intercepted to create a pretty strong case against you).
Oh and have a beer or some scotch. Cool your nerves. 8)
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4 packagess heading my way. All should be here by Saturday,(Some probably sooner) if not then Monday i'll get my last package.
Fucks given: 0.02
The .02 is me being a bit worried about the USPS fucking up. :P
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No, that's fucking retarded. It's like flipping out cuz you shot yourself in the foot. Me? I just whack/finger myself until literally the package arrives.
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Me? I just whack/finger myself until literally the package arrives.
Sound advice, very sound advice
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I did the first month I joined, but then I stopped giving a fuck. I have nothing else in my life at this point to look forward to other than being an angry bitter old man that hates our youth, so either I continue doing drugs or I jump off the Golden Gate Bridge. :(
First let me just say: I am not a travel agent and I am not being paid to promote any particular city. I am more concerned about the spiritual well-being of fellow SR user Gary Oak and just want to try and cheer him up a bit here. Also forgive me if I sound like a hippie : I am actually not so big on that "peace and love" tofu mumbo jumbo. In fact, I wouldn't hesitate to shoot any motherfucker that gets in my face.
Bro: consider yourself lucky to live in the psychedelic mecca that is San Francisco. I had the privilege of living there for a few years until the big earthquake in '89. It freaked me out so much that I moved as far away as I could from the San Andreas Fault. It's a decision I'll always regret and I have many fond memories of my time there. Part of the allure of living by the Bay is the fact that some day, without any notice, that whole city is going to slide into the ocean. Considering it's fragile location it's inevitable.
It is def the most liberal and tolerant city in the U.S.A.: consider the ethnic and cultural diversity and the various unique communities scattered within it: San Francisco is Jeffersonian democracy in action. If your a straight guy there are more single women available, if your gay you can be open about it, and it is very supportive of drug users and harm reduction programs (including medical marijuana). It's no coincidence that psychedelic pioneer Alexander Shulgin lives just an hour drive outside of the city.
I am really sorry to hear about your depression Gary Oak, but I would personally rather admire the awesome scenery of the Golden Gate bridge than jump off of it. Forgive me for making an assumption here but you may want to reevaluate your drug of choice b/c if your whole reason for living is based on one particular substance it sounds like you might have an addiction. Speaking from my own personal experience I can say with a degree of certainty that addictions are very seldom life affirming.
You might want to sample all the various psychedelics that are readily available in San Francisco or here on SilkRoad particularly the organic ones like magic mushrooms,mescaline, and DMT . Take one of these and go for a walk in Golden Gate Park on a sunny day or trip around Chinatown and North Beach.These substances may help facilitate or reawaken an awareness of the beauty that surrounds us everyday but which we might have forgotten and become disconnected from. A few good trips just might be the perfect prescription to help cure you of the what sounds like a heavy case of the blues.
Now regarding the actual topic of this thread re: the anxiety of waiting for packages. Just use some common sense and space your orders out accordingly so they don't attract too much attention. Having a dozen small boxes from Amsterdamn all arrive at the same time is def going to raise some red flags with the Postal Service.
I was actually considered ordering a carton of cigarettes from Moldovia (?) selling on SR for a mere 5 Btc ( a carton goes for about $100. U.S. where I live) a week ago but thought that this obvious big bulky item entering the country would def be noticed by Customs (who would apply punitive custom taxes thus defeating the purpose of the purchase) and would be a major heat score. It would totally compromise my mailing address...so needless to say, and despite the temptation, I won't be buying those any time soon.
**User's Don't Lose Drugs!!**
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Do any of you purchase and then spend your time freaking out and worrying about the consequences if things go.....wrong. I have had myself worried sick, no slip ups yet, the whole thing is quite the rush..albeit scary at times. Surely i cant be alone here?
Not really. I've ordered plenty illegal stuff that could get my head cut off in these part way before I was on SR. I don't think my mail services gives much of a shit or very many of them would know what weed smells like. What I am afraid of though is LE operations against this site and them tipping off my local PD.
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But I was thinking skydiving on like 30 hits of LSD. No parachute.
When everyone you know is dead and the only thing to look forward to is a cute nurse helping you with your business and wiping you after, that's the way to go,
Fun to know I'm not the only one who thinks so.
My friend once received 5 packages on the same day. Not all small. I myself have received several packages within a week.
Some people have a lot of friends. Some people order a bunch of random shit online, maybe for their friends. As long as the packages appear legit, not much to fret over. Of course, I do stress the necessary legit-ness of the packages.
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Do any of you purchase and then spend your time freaking out and worrying about the consequences if things go.....wrong. I have had myself worried sick, no slip ups yet, the whole thing is quite the rush..albeit scary at times. Surely i cant be alone here?
I don't really worry about it to be honest. Absolute worst case scenario is my house gets raided and I get done for possession of a personal amount. Not likely, but not impossible. It'd be pretty rough but I guess it's not that bad. But then the overwhelming probability is that the shit will just arrive in the post.
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Yea, i really shouldnt have sweated it, all my orders arrived at once, and not a single fuck was given that day. I think its easy to overestimate LE, They have a lot more going on than to worry about shit like this.
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To me, I don't care about the chance of losing the money. It's only paper. The chance of getting busted sux. But I got that deniability thing down to a tee. And I know about asking for my lawyer and the bullshit that cops come up with to try to scare you.
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I'm not worried at all about getting a delivery. I'm more worried about not getting my shit. this is the only plce to get the things i want.
Not worried about getting busted, cuz fuck it, I'm already dead anyway.
Good thing those people who were flirting with me at the bar didn't notice
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After several months of success on the road my confidence has definitely gone up, whether that be a good thing or a bad thing. I still do find myself stalking the fuck out of my mailman though.
Sellers depend on high feedback in order to increase profits/gain new buyers on this site so naturally they are going to go the extra mile to make sure your package is shipped stealth, and in a speedy manor. That makes the "freaking out" phase a little shorter. I can't think of anyone in their right mind who would NOT be scared ordering illegal substances in the mail. Blending in with all the other business and bullshit mail is what SR vendors do best!
But I'm sure as many others, I am addicted to the rush of the entire thing now. There's no going back. This is the future!
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Been doing a lot of thinking about this subject and I have come to the conclusion that we ARE making a difference... look at the LE who patrol this site... investigating us... trying to bust us... they are making LITTLE or NO difference in the grand scheme of things... yes some of us will be busted... could be me... don't really care to be honest. I mean i would love to do this for 20+ years and stack up tons of green backs and retire but I am not stupid... I have already done time on some really smart crimes so I KNOW what LE is capable of but when you look at the big picture, the population (other than LE) will continue on long after I am gone from this planet. People WANT to be free... it is who we are and that desire will ALWAYS override the desire of the Government to repress us. The ID, the EGO, that part of us that makes us feel special, the part of our brain that makes us think we are the only ONE who understands needs to be controlled... we need to work as a force to overcome LE and continue this work onward. Some of us will go down, we will be martyred for our efforts... hopefully future generations will honor us for the efforts we have put forth not only for our work but for the liberties we have sacrificed being the first..
Look beyond the here and now folks... look at the freedom SR provides... don't admire the site... admire the cause... and carry it on... at all costs.
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Look beyond the here and now folks... look at the freedom SR provides... don't admire the site... admire the cause... and carry it on... at all costs.
AND LET'S STRIPE SOME BASTARDS WHILE WE DO IT!
Nah you make a very good point here Jonesy, good vibes. :)
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aye love the community on SR, great group of people (apart from a certain group of individuals that im sure we all know.
and lim, as always lets stripe some pricks!
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Everythign I order is relatively small and fits in lettermail.. Lettermail does not get searched.... I have no worries ever....... I never send to my house or use the same address very often...
Life is great.. Everyone should cheer up... :) :) :)
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One thing to do is order lots of "legitimate" (I hate being forced to use that word like that!) stuff from lots of places. Near, far, signature required, no signature.
Be sure and gab it up with the postal worker when signing about all of the things your into and all of the purchases you make and how long you've been waiting for this to come and all of the stuff you've ordered or bought on ebay or whatever.
Just don't mention anything illegal......of course.
Then they "know" you and like most humans, especially those seeking cushy government jobs, won't think twice about it again.
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I don't worry about cops kicking in my door over personal drugs that they can't prove I ordered.
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Calm down man, especially if it is domestic, everything will be fine, what are you expecting?
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Ordered something from sr for the first time today, and even though the customs worry me a a bit it's not delivered too my address anyway, and the slight chance of a monetary loss is obviously a risk i was willing to take the minute i clicked buy.. I wouldn't be worried even if i ordered to my own address either since i would just deny i know something about it
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Just relax and always remember the main thing is not to panic....
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You are not alone :P
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I'm pretty new as well, and I can tell you I did experience some of what you're talking about. I have an anxiety disorder and my anxiety works in mysterious ways, often times surprising me that I find/don't find something to make me anxious. But the first time I used a cash deposit to a bitcoin exchange, I got this feeling of dread right afterwards. Couldn't shake the feeling that I might be ripped off, really. At that point, there was nothing to fear from LE. But, I just swallowed a couple Klonopin, and hoped for the best.
Surely enough, the transfer worked and I was overjoyed when I saw my SR account balance rocket up. Since then, I haven't been too anxious about SR at all. I'm a medicinal Cannabis user in a non-medical states with little to no friends with drug connections. So to be honest, I had a shit load of anxiety about just being able to find the damn stuff! I've found SR effectively removes this anxiety for me, so that's awesome. Stay safe, be smart, keep cautious.
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Since my first purchase arrived theres been no angst, however until it arrived there was plenty!! My main thought until it arrived was 'its just 1 big massive scam run by a group rather than individual'.
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I like to think about the fun I'm gonna have when it arrives. I also think about how tits the Road is. There's quality and variety on here I never before saw irl. Got 3 more chances this week to get my order. Can't wait! It's only scary when you accept the mindfuck from the trolls and the paranoid. Good to be aware, but compare this to going to the 'hood to buy rocks cut with raid.
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I'm a medicinal cannabis user in a non-medical state with little to no friends with drug connections. So to be honest, I had a shit load of anxiety about just being able to find the damn stuff!
Same here -- medicinal cannabis user stuck in a state without sanctioned access to the stuff. Honestly, I don't worry much about getting busted. I mine my own bitcoins so there's no easily discernible money trail (at least I hope not), and I'm not ordering weed in huge quantities. If LE wants to come after me for smoking a little dope to alleviate the long-term effects of a brain injury -- bring it on!
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OMG OMG OMG.....JUST ORDERED SOME MORE BING......I'M FEELING ANGSY!
TWITCH TWITCH TWITCH
Lol..... :P
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Sure, we all do, to one degree or another. I avoid paranoia, and fight off preoccupation with secondary aspects of these transactions that aren't really illegal. Some people get all caught up in trivial aspects, then neglect the simple basic and obvious advice to just not *tell* anybody else about it.
I like fooling with Tails and liberte linux and other digital doodahs, but I"m not sure if any of that will ever really matter. But at the same time, I know there is one really dangerous thing I do do, which is give out my fucking address to a total stranger, and much as I study and attempt to find replacements for 'me,' it's hard.
It's not for the faint of heart, and I do operate on the theory that you should not do the crime if you cannot do the crime, but that is small comfort of if you are sitting in the holding tank in some loud crowded jail somewhere...on the other hand, life is short, nothing ventured nothing gained...
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Is just having Tor enough to not get caught, how do people get caught? Ta!
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Giving out my real name and address to a seller is like giving my business card to my street dealer. That's the part that really gets to me.
We all get so much junk mail these days; I think SR sellers should use a junk mail format like coupon packages or product brochures. Then, I could just provide my address when ordering and leave my name out of it altogether.
I took out a UPS mail box and now have all my mail sent to there. If something goes wrong, I have the classic "I don't know," denial excuse backed up with the possibility that someone working at the UPS store is buying and using my mailbox for delivery. It would be very easy for a UPS store employee to intercept their package while they were sorting everyone's mail. Makes me feel better anyway.
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Giving out my real name and address to a seller is like giving my business card to my street dealer. That's the part that really gets to me.
We all get so much junk mail these days; I think SR sellers should use a junk mail format like coupon packages or product brochures. Then, I could just provide my address when ordering and leave my name out of it altogether.
I took out a UPS mail box and now have all my mail sent to there. If something goes wrong, I have the classic "I don't know," denial excuse backed up with the possibility that someone working at the UPS store is buying and using my mailbox for delivery. It would be very easy for a UPS store employee to intercept their package while they were sorting everyone's mail. Makes me feel better anyway.
Exactly. I think much of what we do to protect ourselves, is actually just a way to 'feel better' about the whole thing. We don't know. We really don/t. We don't know who is watching us, and what they want, what their intents are, and how they are going about their surveilance, or how they will come, and what hammer they will bring.
Some on here are glib, and claim secrets to the point they remind me of the alchemists that periodically raise their heads on 'Game of Thrones.' But loud voices and digital chest pounding still can't get around the fact that we are in the dark. So I myself try to use common sense and have a bit of cheerful fatalism about the whole thing. Yes I use Tails, and yes I try to give my btc a bounce or two, and mostly I try to keep my mouth shut.
And stay out of bars. (At 1 in the morning, whoever is next to me is my new best friend and confidant, and I just can't wait to tell him how knowledgable and savvy I am about this digital bazaar . ) Oh, and finally: I've a fairly good relationship with a bail bondsman. I find that--in the clutch, in the jail cell--a good bondsman is more important in the early stages than a good lawyer.
Other than that, we're on our own....happily so.
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Yah, I do worry. But then it comes with no consequencesd and I'm back to my happy self. Until next time.
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I usually don't worry that much about it, but whenever I see an unusual car parked a long my street, particularly the day of receiving a shipment, I do get quit quite sketched out. Additionally, I've had more nightmares than I can count about getting busted, or people who aren't supposed to know about my SR purchasing habits finding out. Anyone else have these nightmares?
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Ordered my first class A and freaking out as it's not arrived next day, and a sample shipped 1st class on Saturday in the UK hasn't either. It's probably just post being slow but I'm still worried. It's perfectly normal to be paranoid about it.