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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: tony76 on March 12, 2012, 03:16 am
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You think i am stupid?
You message me asking me if i want to work out a deal, so that we aren't "competing against eachother" when you start selling MDMA... What did i tell you? Go make your money and don't worry about taking money from me... I want everyone to make money.. I'm not greedy.
I also knew you were young and trying to make a dollar, so what did i do? I gave you 2 hours of advice on how to tighten up your operation and to protect yourself..
Even now you still message me asking to get you shit..
And how do you repay me?
By making a fake account, and talk shit about my products and other vendors products to try and ruin our business?
In my LSD review thread:
his lsd isnt as good as his other shit.
PS his mdma is also weak as fuck.
His H is good.
In SKYY's 5g of MDMA for 150 thread
This guys stuff is trash. Buy it and see lol.
In SKYY's xtc thread
worst mdma of any dealer on SR
In the MDMA review thread
ObamaGirl is the best US MDMA vendor.
The only US MDMA vendor I trust is ObamaGirl
and then you post this in Obama Girls thread:
Thanks for the great molly OG. I really appreciate it. i was really sorry to hear about some crazy people talking shit about you. But I am more than happy to write a review even though I dont use the forums much.
I ordered about 8-9 days ago from OG. I wasnt expecting much, god knows US vendors suck or either they are elite 1 or the other. Well I got the package only 2 days after I ordered which was amazing. Super fast, as others have said. The mdma was alot more rocky than I had seen before. Honestly, I was kinda thinking I got scammed because I thought MDMA was alot more powder haha. Well me and 3 other friends 1 guy and 2 gurls had a private roll each of us split the G into .25g each. We each did 150mg to start and then 100mg about 3-4 hours later.
I have heard all this crap about how 150mg is a good amount but everytime I order molly, from the NL vendors and from the US vendors I ALWAYS must dose a larger amount than they say. So I expected OG to also be overrating her stuff, I found out if anything her stuff is stronger than she says. We are all expieranced rollers and we all said that 150mg seemed a little bit much of this stuff. Extremly powerful roll. We all expieranced trips and extreme visuals. We all also blew up amazingly hard. This stuff is not like MDMA I got from other people on SR. After having OGs molly, I wonder if all the other NL vendors I bought from and the NextDay air guy form the US I bought from, I wonder if thier stuff is really MDA? I dont know but I never rolled like I have off her stuff.
OG told me she never cuts her stuff and she pays extra for the super potent stuff from her guy that he doesnt give out to everyone. Thats hard to believe but after doing her shit, I would imagine shes a hott chick that he is trying for the impress with her. Because her shit is amazing. I never write reviews and i dont even like the forums. But OG gave me and my 3 friends the most amazing roll of our life and it was for a total of around $80. So for $20 a pop we each rolled harder than ever in our lives.
OG you are amazing.
ghbizzle you should be ashamed of your self you are a scammer. OG please dont leave because of guys like this. There are many good customers out there. I recommend you make a list and only allow certain people the ability of purchase. I guarantee you will still sell out your shit is da bomb.
I luv you OG!!!!
Thanks for the best roll of my life. If you ever need me to write another review or anything I will do it because you are the best vendor I know on SR. I dont want you to leave. Thank you again.
Now here is the best part:
From the MDMA review thread:
After doing the following vendors MDMA I rank them as follows:
ObamaGirl BY FAR the best MDMA. I was tripping like I was on LSD. My friends said only the best MDMA makes you trip and they also are ALOT more expieranced them me. They ALL said this stuff was uncut and the feelings I was having were from MDMA just amazing.
3jane - best canadian vendor by far but I am US so for me ObamaGirl is the person I buy from
Ivory - Best UK vendor
Now guys that I have tried but arnt worth even reviewing...
NextDayAir shitty stuff, JamesBrown shitty mdma, Jollibee I dont know if this guys bullshit is even mdma, CoinStar my friends say this guy prolly buys from ObamaGirl but cuts her shit and re-sells for profit since it was similar but it took about double the amount and had a dirty feeling compared 2 obamagirls, headsmeds again cut up mdma, tony76 shit is worth exactly what you pay its weak compared with ObamaGirls and 3janes.
3janes isnt exactly weak when compaired 2 ObamaGirls. In fact I would say ObamaGirls is only slightly better, I say both are good. But out of about 8 friends with years experience they all said there was more "magic" with ObamaGirls MDMA.
I tried ObamaGirls weed also and that was very strong. I bought 3 tabs of LSD from her for JUST $20 also, I was sure this was a scam but I was shocked when I was tripping 1000 ways for what I thought was 1000 days seeing 1000 colors from 1000 tvs experiencing sound 1000 ways meeting 1000 people while never leaving home lol. Its basically just a matter of time before ObamaGirl raises her prices. She is already selling out constantly.
I believe the only 3 good vendors are ObamaGirl, 3Jane, and Ivory.
and then OBAMA GIRL shortly after posts
All I keep hearing is I got the best mdma.
This isnt what im saying this is what many SR users have told me. I did upgrade 1 time but even the stuff I had b4 that people said was the best. The shit I have lately is even better.
I cant speak on any other US vendors, but for overseas
Ivory mitanox 3jane
these are all the best vendors in thier respective region of the world.
I am the best US vendor.
There is enough money/product to go around, without shady ass tactics like this.
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ooooo snap, its about to go down.
brb, getting my popcorn and dr. pepper.
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+1, Tony. I'm glad you caught onto this. I've been seeing this BS for a few days and knew OG was up to something.
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Also could you explain to me how your newest mdma batch is the best because it made people 'emotional' (your words!) ?
What did your previous batches do, then, I wonder?
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Dang, I'm all out of popcorn.
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All I have heard is bad reviews on OG's molly lol. From people that I actually know are real and not dupe accounts, and from people that are actually experienced (saying your mdma made people feel "emotional" lol I can tell you are really experienced).
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:( If this is really OG pulling of shady tactics, then :(. As long as i get my 1 gram mdma lottery =D.
I love all vendors as long as they are legit and work with the customer when something goes wrong.
Tony, i respect the fact that you said earn your money and not to worry about taking any of your customers because you know you have a loyal custy base.
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Ok, after taking a few bong rips, and reading through the post a few more times, here is what I have to say...
!) TONY, MY MAIN MAN...you are the number 1 vendor on this site FOR A REASON. Any buyer who has ever dealt with you knows this...don't let any type of hater get you down, you are doing a great job. You have my business for as long as the SR is open.
2) For all anyone knows, those posts could have actually been made by a crazy ObamaGril fan, and not ObamaGirl her self. You never know with these crazy things. I know this is *not* likely...but..."innocent until proven guilty", right?
3) Lastly, the comment about NDA's stuff being garbage...is garbage. I have rolled on NDA, Tony, Ivory, and Juegen (sp?). They were all great, and NDA was the hardest hitting out of the bunch. Moral of the store: "Out O Bounds" has some serious explaining to do, to clear this whole mess up...no matter what side he stands on.
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Lol, I too noticed something shady about Out O Bounds posting habits.
Like it really does any good bashing the product of vendors that have been proven legit time and time again by trusted members. It just makes it obvious that you are a troll. Get real OG, if your molly is really that good then it will sell itself. No need to be shady.
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I am the best US vendor.
Seriously?? Biggest NFI I have ever seen. OG, try joining the SILC chat again while I'm around and continue bad mouthing Tetravort and Seasampino. Calling them selective scammers won't help your cause either.
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2) For all anyone knows, those posts could have actually been made by a crazy ObamaGril fan, and not ObamaGirl her self. You never know with these crazy things. I know this is *not* likely...but..."innocent until proven guilty", right?
It is Obama Girl..
This is how they conduct business and the tone of all their messages... Before they started vending they were already like "We don't want to step on eachother toes do we?"
and just today here is a message they sent me
ObamaGirl(99) subject
allight mr hooked up, Where is the ________ at? Dont worry ill still keep buying your ________ but come on you can get all this shit im sure you know where some __________ is. Or I bet you can find it how much is worth it? I really want it and I have bitcoins lol. Ill ju________ 14 hours read
delete
I respond with "I don't know where to get that, sorry"
and they respond with
ObamaGirl(99) re: subject
great thats perfect. i got a great connect and i am going 2 sell it, so there is no need 4 you 2 try 2 get any lol.
finally. 57 minutes read
delete
Everything seems like some massive competition... I couldn't care less if they sold every item in the world and were direct competitors of mine.. But fair competition is one thing, and unfair competition (bogus reviews) are another.
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I am the best US vendor.
Seriously?? Biggest NFI I have ever seen. OG, try joining the SILC chat again while I'm around and continue bad mouthing Tetravort and Seasampino. Calling them selective scammers won't help your cause either.
Funny you mention that.. if you look at "Out of Bounds" post history you can see them talking about how they are having a hard time connecting to SILC Chat too
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Dang, I'm all out of popcorn.
I got ya bro, don't worry for a second. This thread is taking priority over any other plans I had for tonight,.....I made an extra bag of popcorn for you..
<3 addiction
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I am the best US vendor.
Seriously?? Biggest NFI I have ever seen. OG, try joining the SILC chat again while I'm around and continue bad mouthing Tetravort and Seasampino. Calling them selective scammers won't help your cause either.
I felt pretty bad about how she was acting in the chat yesterday. It was a train wreck and all she did was make her self look stupid and piss a lot of people off. You know its bad when your embarrassed for someone you dont even know.
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GET 'EM TONY!
HES FUCKIN #1 FOR A REASON.
stays classy and has all the best shit at the best prices.
this man keeps it real!
vendors take notes!
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i'm here for the gang bang
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I think anyone that starts their SR vending experience with a bunch of lottos should be scrutinized. I don't know OG outside of her posts on the forum, but I always got a shady vibe from her, I don't even know why. It's things like this that make you want to support the TRUE vendors on SR more and more. With all the business you get Tony, I'm sure this doesn't matter to you, but if I had BTC in my account right now, I'd support you with a purchase 110%, and most likely will when I cash in on some funds.
Some people always need to take the shortcuts through life. What they don't know is that one day they're going to come back and bite them in the ass, or maul them if they're not careful.
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Everything seems like some massive competition... I couldn't care less if they sold every item in the world and were direct competitors of mine.. But fair competition is one thing, and unfair competition (bogus reviews) are another.
Well, after posting that PM, I would probably agree with you Tony. Keep in mind, I'm just a lowly buyer who holds you dealers as demigods...but even this seems a little childish on the part of OG.
As always, there are two sides to any story. I would like to hear OG's rebuttal before I cast my final judgment.
And I said it before, and I'll say it again...Tony, you have a cult-like following on here because of your customer service and product. Don't you forget that!!!
<3 addiction
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well if this person is making loads of shill accounts and is also running lots of lotteries, i think you can guess whos winning them lol. out of bounds is surely going to have alot of luck in the lotto lol
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i'm here for the gang bang
seconded
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Almost all of OG's feedback is written in a veryyyy similar style, don't you think? For some reason, I'm not exactly inclined to believe OG's (excessively) repeated claims about her MDMA being the absolute best. Apologies to OG if she is truly legit and hasn't been spamming with dupe accounts, but something seems really fishy to me. Maybe a couple more SR vets throwing their weight behind her would help lessen suspicions about her, yeah? Where are her glowing reviews from the forum's most trusted members? Maybe after she gets some more solid feedback I'll consider paying DOUBLE what tony is charging for his highly-regarded and thoroughly-reviewed goods. :D
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Well played tony. OG was being a bit obvious with the troll accounts, laying it on too think with low post counts for the criticism and advice to be legit. Glad you called him out.
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LOl , this started in the coke section way back...
I have it also in the speed , Other vendors buy 2 gr..end He is under weight its not 70 % , no the people in the lab dont know shit right. ...enz... :'(
So this obama Bitch .. , the name give it away it a ****ass hole ;)
I dont know tony..but i feel he is ok.. a stand up guy...wish you the best bro.!! ;)
in the mdma topic it more like a add section ...before u never saw a vendor .
now the vendors are all over the place..
if it a topic about u are u belong.. , me be we must wake up the MODS.... ;)
AAkoven 8)
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Very glad you caught on to this Tony! Once again killing it without even trying. I was about to gamble with OG with the so called "human grade K" she is offering because she was the only domestic vendor, but that just went down the drain. The messages and reviews do seem fishy but idk just saying, cant deal with anyone whos acting shady.
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i don't like this, well i just paid for my custom listing ( was only .20 btc plus shipping which was 1.25 btc) no big deal but i hope it comes through as i've had very little luck recently. I feel i'm semi-trusted at least from some of the members here so i will be able to give you guys an honest opinion/review on my experience with OG. So far, everything has been good and i just need to recieve the product.
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Maybe it's because I'm stoned, but I am completely baffled that someone intelligent enough to access this site would think it to be a good idea to try a price-fixing scheme with "THE #1 SELLER ON SR FOR A REASON" (That should be your slogan, Tony, it's catchy).
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i'm here for the gang bang
I lol'd.
Anyway, Tony, this is awesome how you treated this situation,
#1. Provided evidence.
#2. Very mature about the entire situation.
Only buying your dope from now on, I want you to be around for as long as Silk Road is!
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Jeesey pessey, that's pretty dumb. Wonder if there are any shell account SR side. Hmmm..
~Digi
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Maybe it's because I'm stoned, but I am completely baffled that someone intelligent enough to access this site would think it to be a good idea to try a price-fixing scheme with "THE #1 SELLER ON SR FOR A REASON" (That should be your slogan, Tony, it's catchy).
Just to be pedantic, Tony is in the top 1% of sellers, not the number 1 seller. Still a good call though Tony!
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I hate to ring the fed bell but shit....that sounds so suspect.
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weighing in here, Tony, sorry you have to deal with troglodytes like that. It is an unfortunate symptom of this forum...
hang in there,
ggg
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yeah after looking through the posting history of users in the obamagirl review thread, it really seems like a lot of these posters are fake as hell.
lights out - posting history is mainly disses of other vendors, praise for OG, talks a lot about china for some reason, also funny that an og fan says anyone running a lotto should be banned!?
smashin calls a bunch of people scammers, claims mitanox's lsd is shit, talks about china, endorsed FF
note smashin supporting FF, is there a connection here? it sure seems like OG is just some asshole running scam after scam. luckily with community vigilance it seems like we are able to spot these serial scammers...
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She wanted 1500 USD for an oz when I asked lol.... lame! I'm gonna assume she never shows up in this thread.
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I like how out o bounds tried like 8 different vendors mdma in such a short period of time.
I agree with Holly, I bet OG nor OOB shows up here.
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Noticed that shit in the mdma thread but hadn't seen anything else. Keep on rockin tony. Thanks for bringing it to light.
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Maybe it's because I'm stoned, but I am completely baffled that someone intelligent enough to access this site would think it to be a good idea to try a price-fixing scheme with "THE #1 SELLER ON SR FOR A REASON" (That should be your slogan, Tony, it's catchy).
Just to be pedantic, Tony is in the top 1% of sellers, not the number 1 seller. Still a good call though Tony!
Actually, before the new system was implemented, Tony had achieved rank #1 while being a member for less than two months. Seeing as how his business has only increased, I doubt he has fallen from his spot at #1. It's all relative, though, as I feel any of the top 10 vendors are equal as far as products and customer service go; it's merely his quantity that is bulldozing the competition (As a domestic vendor, that is expected).
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Damn.....Its a hard knock life for a vendor around here.....
Sorry to hear you have to deal with this crap tony......
Hard part about being king of the hill is everyone want your spot eh?!
I don't know Obamagirl (OG), never dealt with her/him, but I will say this.
Tony sure has kept pretty good records and made a very sound case against OG.
Sorry OG, none of my BTC will ever head your way.
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WOW what a crazy bitch, some people never cease to blow my mind ona regular basis. i'd maybe understand fluffing her own products but talking shit about everyone elses?! cmon, now thats just childish and silly. not to mention iif this was the real world, some pipe hittin niggas would be rollin up to your doorstep.
handled professionally tony, kudos
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I've been watching this go down as im new and of course want to read about every review and vendor.
I bet that bs even about her refunding that dude 3x after he was bitching is a farce and fake name.
Then of course the people with 1-2 posts bragging one after another also with weird easily made names like frank12345, or Green5430 qwerty76.
Member $$$$$$ Post Count 1- Her stuff was so good I could stop rolling in the mud!!!
Member XXXXXXX Post Count 1- Her stuff was so good i stuck my junk in car muffler for 4 hours straight
Member ^^^^^^^ Post Count 2- Her stuff was so good it made me find out I'm homosexual. I'm ordering another gram for gay day woooo. I LOVE YOU BOBBY.
Member &&&&&&&&& Post Count 2- Her shit was buuunnnkkk probably fake. Guess im ot X BTC.
OG- Sorry aboutt hat ill refund you 2x no no no 3x no no no no 100000x. Cause im the best vendor order from me cause your btc is safe and my stuff is the BOOOOMMMMBBBB. Im only sellling 20 grams of MDMA or more for the low now just get with me cause your money is safe so im gonna do bulk, also 100% shipment success rate.
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I like how out o bounds tried like 8 different vendors mdma in such a short period of time.
I agree with Holly, I bet OG nor OOB shows up here.
This is something that caught my attention too. As a new user you immediately spend all of your money on everyone's MDMA? Why not find something good and continue to forge a good relationship with a seller who has quality product?
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Damn, where was a thread like this last night while I drunkenly(yet still apprehensively) finalized early? I'll try and reserve judgement a bit as my item supposedly shipped today priority w/ DCN. I noticed the inexperience from PM's when she/he brought up the whole "pure mdma makes you trip balls" thing which is ridiculous imo. Also NDA's mdma is not shit, it was one of the cleanest rolls I've ever had. However for my own selfish and hedonistic sake I'm gonna hope its just unprofessional behavior by talking herself up and others down. I suppose I like clinging to any sort of hope, albeit false. I'll let you guys know if nothing ever shows up, in the meantime no more drunk ordering.
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I do not think we will be seeing ObamaGirl in this thread, it is just far too painfully obvious that the reviews are done by herself. For instance, if ObamaGirl's MDMA was the only MDMA to give a trip and visuals, and none of the rest of the MDMAs gave visuals why would you assume that all of the rest were MDA while OG's was the true MDMA? Especially considering that MDA is known for the fact that it is more trippy and visual.
I mean, how ridiculous.
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Hmmm, I also finalized earlier this morning. lol, I am such a dummy. Hopefully she comes through though.
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I do not think we will be seeing ObamaGirl in this thread, it is just far too painfully obvious that the reviews are done by herself. For instance, if ObamaGirl's MDMA was the only MDMA to give a trip and visuals, and none of the rest of the MDMAs gave visuals why would you assume that all of the rest were MDA while OG's was the true MDMA? Especially considering that MDA is known for the fact that it is more trippy and visual.
I mean, how ridiculous.
ROFL, was just thinking that to succeed 100% of the time to give you visuals sounds more like MDA than MDMA (especially the open-eyed lsd-type visuals she keeps raging about).
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Hmmm, I also finalized earlier this morning. lol, I am such a dummy. Hopefully she comes through though.
WOW.....bet you wish you had read this before you made that decision!
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^ +2, but I'm still gonna TRY and reserve judgement and see what happens :| If my order was actually shipped today with priority I'll know within a few days.
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I'd give you better than 50% odds at receiving your order
It seems like OG was trying to start a business........just the wrong way.......
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I'd give you better than 50% odds at receiving your order
It seems like OG was trying to start a business........just the wrong way.......
I think your probably right. But, that's why she'll never see a bitcoin from me. Seems awful sleezy to me.
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^ +2, but I'm still gonna TRY and reserve judgement and see what happens :| If my order was actually shipped today with priority I'll know within a few days.
I think I question her purity/quality claims more than her ability to deliver whatever it is she's selling. I mean most of her and her shill claims are just plain silly. Trippy visuals? Stronger than 84%? Right .... Has anyone even seen a reagent test?
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Sounds like some RC might be in the mix
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This Vendor vs Vendor shit goes on all the time and it's gotta stop. sell your product for what you want to sell it, slating another guy's product to promote your own is just not cricket or sportsman like in the slihtest. We all play the game, tactical can cautious, so lets keep it real and play nice (W/E TheEmporium, you fucking hippy, go roll and there blunt kktnxbye|)
This is happening with all the 'happy' drugs as well, WTF? This isn't anyone's 'patch' and it's global so get with the program and put some more listings up.
How's about, when two or more people sell the exact same thing, we get some group buys together and maybe we wouldn't to sell at these price. Just a thought....
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Sorry to go off topic, but what exactly is a group buy? I've seen a listing and assumed it was just a bulk order but I'm thinking it's something different now.
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I've been watching this go down as im new and of course want to read about every review and vendor.
I bet that bs even about her refunding that dude 3x after he was bitching is a farce and fake name.
Then of course the people with 1-2 posts bragging one after another also with weird easily made names like frank12345, or Green5430 qwerty76.
Member $$$$$$ Post Count 1- Her stuff was so good I could stop rolling in the mud!!!
Member XXXXXXX Post Count 1- Her stuff was so good i stuck my junk in car muffler for 4 hours straight
Member ^^^^^^^ Post Count 2- Her stuff was so good it made me find out I'm homosexual. I'm ordering another gram for gay day woooo. I LOVE YOU BOBBY.
Member &&&&&&&&& Post Count 2- Her shit was buuunnnkkk probably fake. Guess im ot X BTC.
OG- Sorry aboutt hat ill refund you 2x no no no 3x no no no no 100000x. Cause im the best vendor order from me cause your btc is safe and my stuff is the BOOOOMMMMBBBB. Im only sellling 20 grams of MDMA or more for the low now just get with me cause your money is safe so im gonna do bulk, also 100% shipment success rate.
Hahahaha, most accurate post ever.
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WOW! Tony while I have not had the pleasure of sampling your wares(yet) your reputation proceeds you. You have nothing to worry about. Stay on point with the costumer service and maintain your level of quality, you will prosper here. One thing to remember is there will always be haters. One way to judge how successful you are is by the number of people intimidated by your level of success. Trust me more are coming your way. You're a star here buddy. Enjoy it! Keep dodgin' them haters playa.
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Her sale would have tempted me if she hadn't gone off and made all these outrageous claims. I'm sure she thought it would make mdma sound good but if the claims are true, I'd be almost certain that it's cut with some kind of RC or MDA.
"it makes you hallucinate better than lsd!" ... rofl, no one takes mdma to get visuals and I wouldn't want one that will.
Besides, my mdma visuals are normally cev where I think my eyes are really open and I'm looking around ... so what, full on visuals would be me opening my eyes and really seeing everything?
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So glad I saw this as I was JUST about to order from her.
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Groip buys as in a few people collect some smaller orders into one bugger order when a suookuer may introsuce a orice break and then more product or at last cheaer product
Requires careful handling though and trust is hard to earn without personal meets
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Has anyone even seen a reagent test?
There used to be a reagent test pic in OG's MDMA listing.
I'm waiting for a 2g order from her and will be happy to post my reagent test results, if/when I receive it.
I ordered back on Feb 28th and haven't seen it due to USPS losing the package.
The good news is OG is working to replace my lost order.
In the meantime, I've received two of Tony's orders, two of NextDayAir's, and one from Jollibee.
Fingers crossed!
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Has anyone even seen a reagent test?
There used to be a reagent test pic in OG's MDMA listing.
I'm waiting for a 2g order from her and will be happy to post my reagent test results, if/when I receive it.
I ordered back on Feb 28th and haven't seen it due to USPS losing the package.
The good news is OG is working to replace my lost order.
In the meantime, I've received two of Tony's orders, two of NextDayAir's, and one from Jollibee.
Fingers crossed!
Do you have a simons too?
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Has anyone even seen a reagent test?
There used to be a reagent test pic in OG's MDMA listing.
I'm waiting for a 2g order from her and will be happy to post my reagent test results, if/when I receive it.
I ordered back on Feb 28th and haven't seen it due to USPS losing the package.
The good news is OG is working to replace my lost order.
In the meantime, I've received two of Tony's orders, two of NextDayAir's, and one from Jollibee.
Fingers crossed!
Do you have a simons too?
Unfortunately, I only have a Marquis test kit.
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Has anyone even seen a reagent test?
There used to be a reagent test pic in OG's MDMA listing.
I'm waiting for a 2g order from her and will be happy to post my reagent test results, if/when I receive it.
I ordered back on Feb 28th and haven't seen it due to USPS losing the package.
The good news is OG is working to replace my lost order.
In the meantime, I've received two of Tony's orders, two of NextDayAir's, and one from Jollibee.
Fingers crossed!
Do you have a simons too?
Unfortunately, I only have a Marquis test kit.
Oh grr, that wont show if there's any MDA in there or not. I wish she was still selling samples.
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So has anyone actually got product from Obama Girl? Figured if there were they might chime in here to give her a little support/defense.
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if you dont like obama girl make a post in here official thread and deface the shit out of this sneak
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Maybe it's because I'm stoned, but I am completely baffled that someone intelligent enough to access this site would think it to be a good idea to try a price-fixing scheme with "THE #1 SELLER ON SR FOR A REASON" (That should be your slogan, Tony, it's catchy).
Just to be pedantic, Tony is in the top 1% of sellers, not the number 1 seller. Still a good call though Tony!
Who do you think was #1 before they changed the display to percentage?
Food for thought ;)
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I just want to throw in here that Tonys Ketamine is pretty dope 8)
OG is pulling some shady shit.
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You think i am stupid?
You message me asking me if i want to work out a deal, so that we aren't "competing against eachother" when you start selling MDMA... What did i tell you? Go make your money and don't worry about taking money from me... I want everyone to make money.. I'm not greedy.
I also knew you were young and trying to make a dollar, so what did i do? I gave you 2 hours of advice on how to tighten up your operation and to protect yourself..
Even now you still message me asking to get you shit..
And how do you repay me?
By making a fake account, and talk shit about my products and other vendors products to try and ruin our business?
In my LSD review thread:
his lsd isnt as good as his other shit.
PS his mdma is also weak as fuck.
His H is good.
In SKYY's 5g of MDMA for 150 thread
This guys stuff is trash. Buy it and see lol.
In SKYY's xtc thread
worst mdma of any dealer on SR
In the MDMA review thread
ObamaGirl is the best US MDMA vendor.
The only US MDMA vendor I trust is ObamaGirl
and then you post this in Obama Girls thread:
Thanks for the great molly OG. I really appreciate it. i was really sorry to hear about some crazy people talking shit about you. But I am more than happy to write a review even though I dont use the forums much.
I ordered about 8-9 days ago from OG. I wasnt expecting much, god knows US vendors suck or either they are elite 1 or the other. Well I got the package only 2 days after I ordered which was amazing. Super fast, as others have said. The mdma was alot more rocky than I had seen before. Honestly, I was kinda thinking I got scammed because I thought MDMA was alot more powder haha. Well me and 3 other friends 1 guy and 2 gurls had a private roll each of us split the G into .25g each. We each did 150mg to start and then 100mg about 3-4 hours later.
I have heard all this crap about how 150mg is a good amount but everytime I order molly, from the NL vendors and from the US vendors I ALWAYS must dose a larger amount than they say. So I expected OG to also be overrating her stuff, I found out if anything her stuff is stronger than she says. We are all expieranced rollers and we all said that 150mg seemed a little bit much of this stuff. Extremly powerful roll. We all expieranced trips and extreme visuals. We all also blew up amazingly hard. This stuff is not like MDMA I got from other people on SR. After having OGs molly, I wonder if all the other NL vendors I bought from and the NextDay air guy form the US I bought from, I wonder if thier stuff is really MDA? I dont know but I never rolled like I have off her stuff.
OG told me she never cuts her stuff and she pays extra for the super potent stuff from her guy that he doesnt give out to everyone. Thats hard to believe but after doing her shit, I would imagine shes a hott chick that he is trying for the impress with her. Because her shit is amazing. I never write reviews and i dont even like the forums. But OG gave me and my 3 friends the most amazing roll of our life and it was for a total of around $80. So for $20 a pop we each rolled harder than ever in our lives.
OG you are amazing.
ghbizzle you should be ashamed of your self you are a scammer. OG please dont leave because of guys like this. There are many good customers out there. I recommend you make a list and only allow certain people the ability of purchase. I guarantee you will still sell out your shit is da bomb.
I luv you OG!!!!
Thanks for the best roll of my life. If you ever need me to write another review or anything I will do it because you are the best vendor I know on SR. I dont want you to leave. Thank you again.
Now here is the best part:
From the MDMA review thread:
After doing the following vendors MDMA I rank them as follows:
ObamaGirl BY FAR the best MDMA. I was tripping like I was on LSD. My friends said only the best MDMA makes you trip and they also are ALOT more expieranced them me. They ALL said this stuff was uncut and the feelings I was having were from MDMA just amazing.
3jane - best canadian vendor by far but I am US so for me ObamaGirl is the person I buy from
Ivory - Best UK vendor
Now guys that I have tried but arnt worth even reviewing...
NextDayAir shitty stuff, JamesBrown shitty mdma, Jollibee I dont know if this guys bullshit is even mdma, CoinStar my friends say this guy prolly buys from ObamaGirl but cuts her shit and re-sells for profit since it was similar but it took about double the amount and had a dirty feeling compared 2 obamagirls, headsmeds again cut up mdma, tony76 shit is worth exactly what you pay its weak compared with ObamaGirls and 3janes.
3janes isnt exactly weak when compaired 2 ObamaGirls. In fact I would say ObamaGirls is only slightly better, I say both are good. But out of about 8 friends with years experience they all said there was more "magic" with ObamaGirls MDMA.
I tried ObamaGirls weed also and that was very strong. I bought 3 tabs of LSD from her for JUST $20 also, I was sure this was a scam but I was shocked when I was tripping 1000 ways for what I thought was 1000 days seeing 1000 colors from 1000 tvs experiencing sound 1000 ways meeting 1000 people while never leaving home lol. Its basically just a matter of time before ObamaGirl raises her prices. She is already selling out constantly.
I believe the only 3 good vendors are ObamaGirl, 3Jane, and Ivory.
and then OBAMA GIRL shortly after posts
All I keep hearing is I got the best mdma.
This isnt what im saying this is what many SR users have told me. I did upgrade 1 time but even the stuff I had b4 that people said was the best. The shit I have lately is even better.
I cant speak on any other US vendors, but for overseas
Ivory mitanox 3jane
these are all the best vendors in thier respective region of the world.
I am the best US vendor.
There is enough money/product to go around, without shady ass tactics like this.
I called bullshit on that right away..get her Tony.
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Maybe it's because I'm stoned, but I am completely baffled that someone intelligent enough to access this site would think it to be a good idea to try a price-fixing scheme with "THE #1 SELLER ON SR FOR A REASON" (That should be your slogan, Tony, it's catchy).
Just to be pedantic, Tony is in the top 1% of sellers, not the number 1 seller. Still a good call though Tony!
Who do you think was #1 before they changed the display to percentage?
Food for thought ;)
PM me if you're not aware of the ranking shenanigans that have been going on. This thread is not the place.
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I didn't catch this at first, but would like to respond here:
After doing the following vendors MDMA I rank them as follows:
NextDayAir shitty stuff, JamesBrown shitty mdma, Jollibee I dont know if this guys bullshit is even mdma, CoinStar my friends say this guy prolly buys from ObamaGirl but cuts her shit and re-sells for profit since it was similar but it took about double the amount and had a dirty feeling compared 2 obamagirls, headsmeds again cut up mdma, tony76 shit is worth exactly what you pay its weak compared with ObamaGirls and 3janes.
3janes isnt exactly weak when compaired 2 ObamaGirls. In fact I would say ObamaGirls is only slightly better, I say both are good. But out of about 8 friends with years experience they all said there was more
I believe the only 3 good vendors are ObamaGirl, 3Jane, and Ivory.
I have had a few conversations with this 'ObamaGirl' (even if she didn't know it as I did not use this name). No one related to this Out O Bounds or ObamaGirl has ever ordered from me, I can promise that, she is just trying to tarnish yet another vendor.
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I'm glad this thread exists. I can't stand any of the venders that make a reputation off of "lottos" they just use the rating system to fool buyers this way.
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No worries, coinstar, I don't think anyone believed her vendor bashing any more than her purity claims.
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I've spoken to ObamaGirl on the marketplace a month or so ago, some heated works exchanged, she did seem like a scummy moron.
So this is of no surprise! +1 for you tony mate
Edit - LOL The ego on this bitch! she blatantly calls herself THE best vendor in the US
Give me a break, and then this line
>Multiple customers have said our MDMA is the best on Silk Road! Try for your self. I do not lie or deceive my customers in anyway. I will not exaggerate or do anything that I feel misrepresents my products.
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Funny, I had a short interaction with OG around the time of the big Valentine's Day sale and she seemed like an upstanding upstart. If she weren't U.S.-only, I'd have placed a few orders with her.
Seems like I just may have dodged a bullet there.
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WOW. Get her, Tony. And LOL, this is directly from her profile:
"I do not lie or deceive my customers in anyway. I will not exaggerate or do anything that I feel misrepresents my products."
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This is a new poster claiming this, so it could be someone pulling the same shit that OG did to Tony so take it with a grain of salt but..
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=15119.0
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Just finalized an order with ObamaGirl for 2g. Price was pretty good, I have a test kit and will post my results as soon as i get it (Assuming it comes) as best as i can.
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This is a new poster claiming this, so it could be someone pulling the same shit that OG did to Tony so take it with a grain of salt but..
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=15119.0
that sucks!! but I am afraid she/he/it scammed them. People keep saying she/he/it actually sends product but I have yet to hear form anyone that actually got anything from her that has any creditability, they may be out there but I haven't heard anything from them
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I wasted MONTHS sifting through the bullshit on the forums before I felt comfortable signing up and making a purchase. And I still got fucked on my first two. It is people like this who fuck up the forums for everyone. OB, fuck you for lying. You're a cunt.
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Holy shit.
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It seems the old feedback system was restored, with the item ordered in chronological order and a timestamp. After sifting through some of his feedback I noticed 2 or 3 within the last day specifically mentioning good mdma, yet when I hover over the item it's for her ketamine listing. So I'm assuming most of it is fake feedback, while hoping its just a glitch from restoring the old system. All I know is that its not making me feel any better about finalizing early. Never FE whilst intoxicated or at all unless you really can afford to lose that money.
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I wasted MONTHS sifting through the bullshit on the forums before I felt comfortable signing up and making a purchase. And I still got fucked on my first two. It is people like this who fuck up the forums for everyone. OB, fuck you for lying. You're a cunt.
What happened to you? Is it similar to the experience I describe in the thread I started? The link is a few posts above yours.
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This is ofc KingJoey back again, & he has a lot of other active accts atm too. 'Lights Out' & 'Smashin' among others. I also suspect he is another vendor on here but no one would believe it - I thought about making a thread about Obamagirl being him but I thought it would just get ignored bc it DOES look like he is sending out product this time instead of just walking away w/ ppls money, so there would be defenders & no one would listen until it was too late. Seems to be the way it goes w/ this guy. What really needs to happen is SR needs to be proactive about finding & stopping scammers but even when its obvious someone is a scammer SR always drags their feet w/ it.
Looks like its him as both of those 2 posted in her thread
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I am amazaed at the potency and great packaging. ObamaGirls stuff arrives faster than anyone elses in the US I have had and its much better. Its clean and doesnt give me a dirty feeling.
If OG is selling it its safe 2 assume its the best you can get
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Very good vendor with good stuff. I got 2 things now both were very good. Thanks OG. Also she is really nice and I feel like I can trust her.
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I wasted MONTHS sifting through the bullshit on the forums before I felt comfortable signing up and making a purchase. And I still got fucked on my first two. It is people like this who fuck up the forums for everyone. OB, fuck you for lying. You're a cunt.
What happened to you? Is it similar to the experience I describe in the thread I started? The link is a few posts above yours.
If you are referring to money pak to BTC, then no. I was talking about my first product orders. They were both relatively large expensive orders. The first never came and the vendor hauled ass. The second was bunk.
There is a certain vendor for BTC to use IMO. I won't mention the vendor, but it is easily seen in the forums...pages and pages of glowing reviews from RESPECTED posters. I've used them 5 times, flawless. PM me if you want the name.
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Placed and order with OG earlier today and just saw this thread... FML I hope it arrives
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Placed and order with OG earlier today and just saw this thread... FML I hope it arrives
Did you finalize early?
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Just PM'd you Jallen
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Placed and order with OG earlier today and just saw this thread... FML I hope it arrives
Did you finalize early?
yea unfortunately :-[
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DPR!!! If you keep allowing buyers to finalise early this shit will keep happening. Finalising early is just as risky as out of escrow transactions. But then again you get your cut when they do. Reputation is everything around here and it would be good to see that the actual site will stick up for the buyers by stamping out this shitty vendor behaviour once and for all. I know there will be vendors who will jump up and down and give excuses about why they require it, but as the volume of scams increase so will the distrust of the site as a whole.
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DPR!!! If you keep allowing buyers to finalise early this shit will keep happening. Finalising early is just as risky as out of escrow transactions. But then again you get your cut when they do. Reputation is everything around here and it would be good to see that the actual site will stick up for the buyers by stamping out this shitty vendor behaviour once and for all. I know there will be vendors who will jump up and down and give excuses about why they require it, but as the volume of scams increase so will the distrust of the site as a whole.
If SR removed early finalization, i would stop vending here and i'm certain a bunch of other top vendors would do the same
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DPR!!! If you keep allowing buyers to finalise early this shit will keep happening. Finalising early is just as risky as out of escrow transactions. But then again you get your cut when they do. Reputation is everything around here and it would be good to see that the actual site will stick up for the buyers by stamping out this shitty vendor behaviour once and for all. I know there will be vendors who will jump up and down and give excuses about why they require it, but as the volume of scams increase so will the distrust of the site as a whole.
If SR removed early finalization, i would stop vending here and i'm certain a bunch of other top vendors would do the same
And we have had top vendors who have simply upped and walked out with peoples cash when they have decided to leave the site. Cuts both ways really.
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Thats hard to believe but after doing her shit, I would imagine shes a hott chick that he is trying for the impress with her. Because her shit is amazing.
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DPR!!! If you keep allowing buyers to finalise early this shit will keep happening. Finalising early is just as risky as out of escrow transactions. But then again you get your cut when they do. Reputation is everything around here and it would be good to see that the actual site will stick up for the buyers by stamping out this shitty vendor behaviour once and for all. I know there will be vendors who will jump up and down and give excuses about why they require it, but as the volume of scams increase so will the distrust of the site as a whole.
If SR removed early finalization, i would stop vending here and i'm certain a bunch of other top vendors would do the same
Wouldn't blame you, although i'm not a vendor.
In that business i'd imagine tons of people wanting to get there hands on free shit, scamming.
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As I understand it, vendors need early finalization to keep the cashflow moving and to be able to get more product without any delays
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DPR!!! If you keep allowing buyers to finalise early this shit will keep happening. Finalising early is just as risky as out of escrow transactions. But then again you get your cut when they do. Reputation is everything around here and it would be good to see that the actual site will stick up for the buyers by stamping out this shitty vendor behaviour once and for all. I know there will be vendors who will jump up and down and give excuses about why they require it, but as the volume of scams increase so will the distrust of the site as a whole.
If SR removed early finalization, i would stop vending here and i'm certain a bunch of other top vendors would do the same
And we have had top vendors who have simply upped and walked out with peoples cash when they have decided to leave the site. Cuts both ways really.
Just like IRL, it's a shared risk. I took the risk with Tony, and was doubly pleased. If DPR enforces a no FE rule, then buyer scamming will be off the charts, again. It's already a tough gig when letter mail doesn't get DCN's, hence the FE requirements. Has anyone here NEVER been ripped off IRL??? Ever? It's gonna happen, no matter the medium of the venue. You just gotta take the risk, and hope for the best.
I just avoid the lotto people like the plague.
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=15151.0
In the thread at the address above I outline what I believe to be a fairly reasonable solution. I think some sort of system should be put in place to verify the legitimacy of new vendors. I understand the need for early finalization for reputable sellers like tony who are doing tons of business and delivering as advertised but early finalization should be a privilege not a right. A vendor should prove they have a legitimate product and are not a scammer before being able to require that. The best method I could think up atm for allowing legitimate vendors to continue business as usual while stifling the influx of new scam vendors is detailed in my post in the features request section, the address is at the top of this post. I hope whoever reads this will give it a read and respond here or there as its a subject I think should be seriously discussed.
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I think it's fine as is.
Although i believe vendor's should provide a DCN for repeat customers.
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I think it's fine as is.
Although i believe vendor's should provide a DCN for repeat customers.
It's serviceable as is but I think some rules for new vendors would benefit everyone. Buyers would have some peace of mind that they wont be scammed when buying from a vendor new to SR while the new vendors would be put in a position that makes scamming from either end of the transaction difficult. At the same time they'd probably receive many more customers.
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This doesn't really surprise me and I've only been here 1 month. I had one person talk shit about some 2ce I know is highly pure and turns out his forum name is almost identical to one vendor selling the same shit at a higher price.
The way she worded all here post sounds like the same person to me. Good eye Tony! And get your money man!!!PEACE!
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DPR!!! If you keep allowing buyers to finalise early this shit will keep happening. Finalising early is just as risky as out of escrow transactions. But then again you get your cut when they do. Reputation is everything around here and it would be good to see that the actual site will stick up for the buyers by stamping out this shitty vendor behaviour once and for all. I know there will be vendors who will jump up and down and give excuses about why they require it, but as the volume of scams increase so will the distrust of the site as a whole.
If SR removed early finalization, i would stop vending here and i'm certain a bunch of other top vendors would do the same
I couldn't agree more tony! If we have to pay for our vendor accounts and buyers don't. Why should we have to take all the risk. It's easy for people to say no more early finalization, but when there $ is on the line I wonder if they would feel the same
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As I understand it, vendors need early finalization to keep the cashflow moving and to be able to get more product without any delays
If a Vendor cannot maintain the cashflow he should then pause sales until he's caught back up. If he doesn't like doing that then he shouldn't be a Vendor because he can't afford to be.
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I thought I would post some emails I have had with OBAMAGIRL. I hate scammers and bad people. I would rather you punch me in the face than be dishonest. The fact she has not come over here to defend herself speaks volumes. Tony you should copy and paste your emails.
based on my experience with other vendors this person does just not have it and no way i would ever do business with her at this point. I tried to give her the opportunity to explain herself but she got defensive instead of cordial. Most people that are guilty get defensive. This person also kept suggesting I order from 3jane. Her product was ok at best. I just find it odd she/he mentioned that 3 times.
I never post here but this person is bad new in my opinion.
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You are not even attempting to defend yourself and NO ONE NO ONE NO ONE who is legit has had anything good to say. You are right I am going to be a smart buyer and shop elsewhere.
I find it odd you keep suggesting 3Jane her shit sucks in my opinion. Why would you keep suggesting her. 1 minute unread
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just so you understand I spent $280 on postage alone this week. My shit is selling no matter what and thats the way it will be until I stop selling. 14 minutes read
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mrgrey regent tested my stuff. Listen its not a big deal I am still selling out and this is just how it goes on a drug website with no rules. tony76 has powerful drugs that enable a special kind of power. he is the only person that didnt like me and fuck him. I am still trippling my money and still selling fyre.
He is pissed because despite him having good shit his mdma sucks and people keep telling him my shit is better.
fuck him and fuck what he stands for he made up some shit cause he decideds 2 cut his mdma. I dunno why hes cutting his mdma when all his other shit is fyre.
but like I said FUCK him. I pay $22 a gram so I dont give a flying fuck. I tripple my money everytime I move a gram lol. Everyone that knows me in real life pays $100 for a G also. I dont need this website 2 move my good drugs. But with that being said all my customers that know me and got orders from me, they all just keep saying no matter what I do keep in contact with them because they want more.
tony76 told me 2 admit writing bad stuff about him on the forum or else he was going 2 try 2 fuck up my business. well I dont admit 2 shit I didnt do so I told him 2 fuck himself. I got the best mdma I know of and it doesnt matter what anyone says my shit is still going 2 sell because its good. I never did 1 person on this website wrong ever. I dont care about people judging me based on some made up stories.
If I was you I would order from 3jane.
I dont need your money its not a big deal. I understand your concerns also tony76 had a plan 2 fuck up my business and in this case its a great example of how his plan is working. Its not your fault your just being a smart buyer. I will give you good advice on w/e drug your trying 2 buy so you can have vendors that are good. I dont mind telling you and I been on this site for about 6 months. All thats going 2 happen is I just restart another seller accoutn and since my shit is so good people will buy it lol. On the one hand it sucks because my guy is literally dropping off 4OZs of MDMA and 2OZs of ketamine that wont sell as fast but on the other hand my shit has always sold out ever since i started selling only the best.
There is no doubt in mind that no matter what happens I am going 2 win. I also am not even reading the forums because I am a good vendor and I dont need 2 read w/e bullshit lies tonys boys come up with. They dont matter 2 me because not 1 customer of mine can say anything bad about me and thats what matters. Not some greedy ass dude that is having a bad day so he wants 2 take it out on me lol. 15 minutes read
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What about this? Clearly you are OUTOFBOUNDS? no one posts that much or orders that much on this site. I have about 10 orders and I only go over there when someone screws me not when I get good stuff. Why are you doing this to yourself? I would like to do business with you but I honestly dont think i will feel safe in doing so. Your reputation is really hurt on this site which is sad. 24 minutes read
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=13725.30
I want to order from you because you are located in the states and I would like to get some by the weekend. I have been scammed on here before and it is a shitty feeling. My point is this and I am just curious as to your response. You started your own thread about your official review then all of the "new posters" had amazing things to say about your product. At the end veteran posters were slamming you because you had bad things to say about Tony76.
If you set up fake posts to create product movement thats one thing. I dont care how you do business as long as you deliver on your product. I just cannot find one veteran poster that has said that got product from you and it was quality.
I have a good transaction history I have dealt with Ivory / Aakoven / freedompeople out of EU but I cannot finalize early with you. If I get your product I will help counteract Tonys negativity but if it does not come thru I will be one of the people trying to get you off the board.
Its not that I am trying to call you out but this is a community and there are bad things going around you right now by VETERAN posters and only NEWBS are stating good things about you. I know the right thing to do is to order from the EU and just be patient but I am willing to give Karma a chance
what do you think.. may i ask what region of the USA you are shipping NW, SW, SE, NE, MW.. I am in the southeast 33 minutes read
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Its up 2 you. I am going 2 sell out either way. My reputation was perfect before tony76 decieded 2 post w/e bullshit he posted.
The forums dont concern me I never ripped off 1 person or did anything wrong. There are tons of good reviews of my products and only within the last mayb 48 hours did tony start asking people 2 talk shit and post bad stuff about me. All the "bad" posts are brand new because no1 thought I was a bad vendor until tony76 decided 2 go off on my reputation just because I am a competitor.
If I was you I would just do whatever you think is right.
If you would of wanted 2 buy and did research on me just 2 days ago before tony started doing this bullshit all you would find is good reviews. Tony76 is very powerful around here because he is the number 1 ranked vendor. He decided he didnt like me or whatever because someone said his LSD was bad but my MDMA was good. So tony said I wrote the review then since hes been attacking me.
Its no big deal I am just lucky that dozens of people already have gotten my products and many are on their 4th or 5th order. I am counting on these people 2 sell me out and for the most part they are.
If you have a low transaction history or your new then I would ask you 2 finalize early so you may want 2 consider this. The forums arnt something I have time 2 read anymore because I know all it is is tony bullshitting or having his friends and customers try 2 mess up my business. I just keep doing what I am doing and handle business.
It was nice hearing from you I would recommend 3jane if your looking for a different MDMA vendor aside from me that is good. The funny part is I recommended like 10 people 2 tony76 but multiple people said his mdma was kinda weak so mayb thats why he is mad at me. Everyone says mine is the "best" and he like 2 claim that he has the best of everything.
I only have a few grams of K and a few grams of MDMA left so I will be ok either way. But if your worried then you shouldnt go with w/e vendor your worried about even if thats me. Like I said if your uncomfertable 3jane is a very good vendor last I checked she had both mdma and mda. Her MDMA is very good.
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I have been reading in the forums and you are a very suspicious vendor which is sad becuase I would like to do business with someone in the states. If you are ripping people off that is beyond sad and pathetic and just a mean thing to do.
Posts are starting to pop up for example one person is ripping several vendors but praising you all over the place, no buyers do that on a repeated basis. The lottery can be used to increase your stats. Please tell me why I should take a chance and order a gram from you when I cannot find a veteran poster that has good things to say about your product.
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Makes no sense to remove Early Finalization, IMHO. I liked the idea for vendors that they usually make buyers with fewer than 5-10 transactions do it early. Makes sense to me, reputable vendor doesn't want to continually get ripped off by scammers posting as new buyers.
I feel like SR Should implement an AUTO Finalize Early for buyers under 7 transactions, Or possible a certain amount of BTC Spent before the Auto Finalize Early is removed. This makes it so there is some loss to the buyer if he scams someone, he would have to create a new account and re-go through the hoops. Yes, this leaves vendors open to scamming new buyers, but I figure since SR already has a 150$ policy to buy a seller account this deters vendors from scamming already (having to drop 150$ every time gets expensive). Maybe also enlist a waiting period too before new sellers can go into business (maybe add a 2 week waiting period).
These ideas are far from perfect but should add extra layers of security for both buyers and sellers imo
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All else aside, I don't think I would EVER purchase anything from someone who conducts business with that kind of grammar and typing ability. I didn't even know people still used numbers as words?! Especially as vendor of a product you are trying to sell... If you can't put in the effort to type correctly, I am going to assume you can't put in the effort to ship my product properly.
No offense to vendors from other countries with broken English..That is completely understandable. ObamaGirl's name conjures up images of exactly the kind of person I would expect to type like that.
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DPR!!! If you keep allowing buyers to finalise early this shit will keep happening. Finalising early is just as risky as out of escrow transactions. But then again you get your cut when they do. Reputation is everything around here and it would be good to see that the actual site will stick up for the buyers by stamping out this shitty vendor behaviour once and for all. I know there will be vendors who will jump up and down and give excuses about why they require it, but as the volume of scams increase so will the distrust of the site as a whole.
If SR removed early finalization, i would stop vending here and i'm certain a bunch of other top vendors would do the same
It really is the buyer's responsibility to make their purchases carefully. If they've done ANY research, they should know which vendors are the safest and most trustworthy. There are plenty of vendors to choose from...if you don't like it, try someone else. If you're new, you should be starting with small orders anyway.
Tony has never required me to finalize early due to my clean stats....but I do it anyway. Tony has always been a standup guy and I appreciate the service he offers. Either way, it's my choice and I'm cool with that.
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Tony has never required me to finalize early due to my clean stats....but I do it anyway. Tony has always been a standup guy and I appreciate the service he offers. Either way, it's my choice and I'm cool with that.
I have clean stats too, and I have called out a number of scam vendors in the past. I also run a very tight buying system where the delivery addresses have to connection to me and there is even no trail of conversion from cash to BTC. If a delivery does not make it, its not my fault, its a shared risk. There are a number of top vendors who have proven that the system works and have the cash flow to operate inside it. If a vendor needs to finalise early due to cash flow then they have an operational issue that the buyer shouldn't have to wear.
But this thread is about that bitch obamagirl and not an argument about vending techniques. I apologise for writing the initial comment in this thread, it should have had its own.
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Tony, a big thanks for the heads up. I was thinking about buying from OB until I saw this thread. I'd never want to do business with people that have shady business practices.
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I thought I would post some emails I have had with OBAMAGIRL. I hate scammers and bad people. I would rather you punch me in the face than be dishonest. The fact she has not come over here to defend herself speaks volumes. Tony you should copy and paste your emails.
based on my experience with other vendors this person does just not have it and no way i would ever do business with her at this point. I tried to give her the opportunity to explain herself but she got defensive instead of cordial. Most people that are guilty get defensive. This person also kept suggesting I order from 3jane. Her product was ok at best. I just find it odd she/he mentioned that 3 times.
I never post here but this person is bad new in my opinion.
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You are not even attempting to defend yourself and NO ONE NO ONE NO ONE who is legit has had anything good to say. You are right I am going to be a smart buyer and shop elsewhere.
I find it odd you keep suggesting 3Jane her shit sucks in my opinion. Why would you keep suggesting her. 1 minute unread
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just so you understand I spent $280 on postage alone this week. My shit is selling no matter what and thats the way it will be until I stop selling. 14 minutes read
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ObamaGirl(99) re: subject
mrgrey regent tested my stuff. Listen its not a big deal I am still selling out and this is just how it goes on a drug website with no rules. tony76 has powerful drugs that enable a special kind of power. he is the only person that didnt like me and fuck him. I am still trippling my money and still selling fyre.
MRGREY GOT FUCKING SCAMMED BY OBAMAGIRL, SHE SENT HIM 2G OF MDMA AND IT NEVER CAME, SHE SUPPOSEDLY RESENT AND NOTHING EVER CAME
This bitch is done. She is officially a scammer, someone should put up a god damn listing under MDMA telling people how much of a scammer she is and lets all buy it so its bumped up and shows as the first listing you see...
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Aaaaaannnd... shes gone!
Listings seem to be pulled and her vendor page is nonexistent :D
Well played tony!
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Hilarious.
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Dang, so glad I dodged that bullet!
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I really doubt she's "gone" watch for a new seller selling mdma and K haha
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.........I ordered 2g of MDMA from her like a day or two ago.....I still hope it comes in... :(
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I really doubt she's "gone" watch for a new seller selling mdma and K haha
But we will always recognize her distinct, uneducated tone.
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Obama Girl has started taunting me via SR
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Cash out subject
Whats happenen man?
So anyways I told you I was a winner and no matter what I am going 2 win. I made close to 1000 bitcoins and $2,000 in cash with another $600 that I couldnt do anything with because I reached my max deposit limit so that guy is going 2 end up getting his $600 back.
Winners win and losers lose and thats 4ever I really didnt know what could of come from you targeting me for w/e make believe reason you had but I stayed positive and now I hit my MTGOX daily with draw limit. My bank has 2 pending transactions for $X,XXX and I still have around $3,000 in coins and I turned the $2,000 in deposits in2 merchandise orders no one could get refunded since thier is cash withdraw limits. You need an XXXX? I got X on the way and a XXXXXX
Just so we can be clear I still didnt do shit 2 you. Even thou you went out of your way 2 fuck me up for free, i mean fuck if you were getting paid i would understand, but you just fucked me up for fun haha. But its all good I hope shit keeps going well for you. Even though your comming after me for free I still have 2 respect the guy doing it big like how I wanna be doing it. Good luck man.
As for me I dont need luck because this is skill.
I wonder if thier are many niggers in Canada? You would fit in well with them haha. Had 2 do that since ya did fuck up my business even though I didnt do shit 2 ya lol. Some nigger shit. Or at the very least it wasnt the white thing 2 do. 9 hours read
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ParamountD Order info?
tony76,
Thanks for your help. I was able to scam another 163 bitcoins today after I sent the e mail 2 you. If you handt of made up those lies about me I wouldnt of realized how good of a scammer I am. Why compete against you? Ill just keep scamming people cause its faster and easier.
So.....$8,000 in total but I promise you this I already have another idea for a scam and I promise it will make more than this one. This wasnt even planned but the next one is already started.
Thanks brother,
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I blanked out some of the info, because even though Obama Girl is a piece of shit scammer, i'm not a rat and LE could easily use the information i blanked out to find out his/her identity...
Really baffles me how stupid some people could be
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Lol so her vendor name is "Obamagirl" but she's insinuating Tony's a "nigger" in a condescending way.....interesting, I bet in a couple of months a new mysterious domestic mdma vendor will appear
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Damn, that shit is fucked up. If this dude is KingJoey and whoever else, he must have seen this site as a money source (maybe another alias? Gummy Stars too?) way back and made 50 or more vendor accounts way back when it was free. Just a theory, but that' some serious long-con shit right there. Fucker is brazen, too.
Nice job, regardless, Tony.
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Ego issues much? She's going to land herself in jail with a mouth that big.
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Ego issues much? She's going to land herself in jail with a mouth that big.
yea you should have heard her in chat the other day if she is talking like that to people in RL she will find a grave much quicker than a cell
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I thought I would post some emails I have had with OBAMAGIRL. I hate scammers and bad people. I would rather you punch me in the face than be dishonest. The fact she has not come over here to defend herself speaks volumes. Tony you should copy and paste your emails.
based on my experience with other vendors this person does just not have it and no way i would ever do business with her at this point. I tried to give her the opportunity to explain herself but she got defensive instead of cordial. Most people that are guilty get defensive. This person also kept suggesting I order from 3jane. Her product was ok at best. I just find it odd she/he mentioned that 3 times.
I never post here but this person is bad new in my opinion.
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You are not even attempting to defend yourself and NO ONE NO ONE NO ONE who is legit has had anything good to say. You are right I am going to be a smart buyer and shop elsewhere.
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just so you understand I spent $280 on postage alone this week. My shit is selling no matter what and thats the way it will be until I stop selling. 14 minutes read
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ObamaGirl(99) re: subject
mrgrey regent tested my stuff. Listen its not a big deal I am still selling out and this is just how it goes on a drug website with no rules. tony76 has powerful drugs that enable a special kind of power. he is the only person that didnt like me and fuck him. I am still trippling my money and still selling fyre.
MRGREY GOT FUCKING SCAMMED BY OBAMAGIRL, SHE SENT HIM 2G OF MDMA AND IT NEVER CAME, SHE SUPPOSEDLY RESENT AND NOTHING EVER CAME
This bitch is done. She is officially a scammer, someone should put up a god damn listing under MDMA telling people how much of a scammer she is and lets all buy it so its bumped up and shows as the first listing you see...
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Well so much for reserving judgement, the fucker got me for $70! Suppose I had to get scammed at one point, 8 flawless transactions until this dude, guess my 9 lives ran out heh. I'll try to think of being scammed more as a right of passage here, getting all pissed off ain't gonna change anything. I learned my lesson, never finalize early, especially with pages of LOTTO feedback :/ OG, Original Gangster, fuckin kids.
PS. Thank you Tony76 for blowin her shit up so I can step off the drama train knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt I need not inspect my mail more closely, time to move on. Thank you for the peace of mind, be easy
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Got scammed from Obama Girl as well it seems...live and learn, at least it was just a g.
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Got scammed from Obama Girl as well it seems...live and learn, at least it was just a g.
Me as well, except my order is 2g..
Time to buy some more bitcoins an wait till Skyy's prices go down, in the mean time i guess il try 3jane's MDA..
Anyone tried those black microdots by chance?
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Got scammed from Obama Girl as well it seems...live and learn, at least it was just a g.
Me as well, except my order is 2g..
Time to buy some more bitcoins an wait till Skyy's prices go down, in the mean time i guess il try 3jane's MDA..
Anyone tried those black microdots by chance?
janes MDA is great just be careful and not to too much like I did. MDA has a harder come down the next day and it will kick your ass. Not so much I wouldnt do it again lol
Also I think I call BS on those number obamagirl is throwing around there that seems very high for such a small number of orders most of which were lottos
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Whats happenen man?
So anyways I told you I was a winner and no matter what I am going 2 win. I made close to 1000 bitcoins and $2,000 in cash with another $600 that I couldnt do anything with because I reached my max deposit limit so that guy is going 2 end up getting his $600 back.
Winners win and losers lose and thats 4ever I really didnt know what could of come from you targeting me for w/e make believe reason you had but I stayed positive and now I hit my MTGOX daily with draw limit. My bank has 2 pending transactions for $X,XXX and I still have around $3,000 in coins and I turned the $2,000 in deposits in2 merchandise orders no one could get refunded since thier is cash withdraw limits. You need an XXXX? I got X on the way and a XXXXXX
Just so we can be clear I still didnt do shit 2 you. Even thou you went out of your way 2 fuck me up for free, i mean fuck if you were getting paid i would understand, but you just fucked me up for fun haha. But its all good I hope shit keeps going well for you. Even though your comming after me for free I still have 2 respect the guy doing it big like how I wanna be doing it. Good luck man.
As for me I dont need luck because this is skill.
I wonder if thier are many niggers in Canada? You would fit in well with them haha. Had 2 do that since ya did fuck up my business even though I didnt do shit 2 ya lol. Some nigger shit. Or at the very least it wasnt the white thing 2 do. 9 hours read
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Soooo... we're the ones that are supposed to get our $600 back... but as far as I know that has not occured yet.
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Confirmed it is gone, fuck obama girl.
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so im another victim of ObamaGirl's scam then. ugh would be on my 1st purchase.
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All the lotto's had me suspicious, but I had good orders from her right at the beginning. Then once the money pack offers showed up.... Really sucks for anyone who got jammed up in that. Money Pack vendors are the most suspicious of all, anything that smells just a little bit then offers to buy MP codes...
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She has been banned for scamming.
~Digi
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She has been banned for scamming.
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He*
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If this is the same recurring scammer, we need to compile and analyze the complete and raw data of every known post/message of theirs and track them down. Sometimes it is cheaper to just get rid of the problem than it is to let them run amok.
Are we really pretending we are above retribution for shit like this? We missed our chance with SumYunGai; ObamaGirl is our mulligan. If we don't eliminate these sociopathic scammers they will come back in new and improved forms and suck naive newbies dry forever.
Nobody in particular would be responsible; the information would just be tossed out here and whatever happens, happens.
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It starts by being accountable for your own actions.
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Add me to the list. 11 business days since I finalized early. Dude was awfully busy setting up fake deals to himself, which is what I'm assuming happened with all of the positive reviews.
Again, is Tor to blame for the inability to stop vendor fraud on here? There's no way to tell that someone is "dealing" to themselves and responding positively to the fake deals, is there? He's just passing bitcoins from one wallet to another, both of which he owns, right? I can understand why if that's the case, but it sure sucks for my first SR transaction to go down like this.
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Scammed for $80. Looking back I think the lotto listings bumping up OG's stats and the fake forum accounts did me in. It would be nice if only the lotto winner could leave feedback on lotto listings or the lotto feedback was weighted differently. Being a first time buyer I finalized early to build rep so I guess thats the cost of doing business until my feedback allows escrow transactions. Hoping for better experiences and escrow orders in the future.
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lesson to learn from this: never finalize early with a new vendor. If that means newbies don't buy from newbies, so be it - let veteran buyers vet out new vendors in escrow before allowing newbies to start buying from them. Newbies, buy from more established vendors.
Also, I think these lottery listings are BS. Freebies and lotteries should be in a separate category and not be factored into overall ratings/rankings.
In fact, since SR is so big now, I would think there could be developed some algorithm for rankings: ratings weighted by price (to prevent selective scamming), factoring in a diverse customer base (to prevent fake accounts/buys/self-ratings), factoring in some sort of weight for the buyer (established/diverse buyers have higher weight on ratings), etc...
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Being a first time buyer I finalized early to build rep so I guess thats the cost of doing business until my feedback allows escrow transactions. Hoping for better experiences and escrow orders in the future.
I know being scammed sucks. Even not being scammed and losing product in the mail sucks too. Anything but the original intent is disappointing. Don't worry though man, you and all other new buyers will get there man. Two months ago I hadn't a single transaction under my belt but I hunted down the good vendors, won some and lost some and built good enough stats to be a respectable buyer. You'll figure it out. The forums can be one of your greatest assets if you dig deep enough in here and don't get frantic over a sellers price or description right away. See whats going on with them and their internal SR and external forum reviews. If you're the first to purchase a listing that has not been reviewed yet be prepared to be a test dummy for others to look upon for useful information.
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It starts by being accountable for your own actions.
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This.... New buyers should learn from the people that have been on here for the best part of a year+ and have never been scammed.
Instead, they see the warnings about early finalization with new vendors and ignore it just because they are too keen. That's if they did any research on the forums at all.
My guess is lots of new members from the US didn't want to take the risk of ordering internationally from the most established vendors and thought it would be safer to stick with domestic vendors due to customs. This is not always the case, and for more reasons than just petty scamming.
Think about it.
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She has been banned for scamming.
~Digi
thanks mods for getting them out. as buyers we are probably more in fear of scammers then LE, i know i am. kinda messed up. but i appreiate this site for giving me the comfort of that mindset. and i do very much appreciate the actions taken but can this improve some more in the next site changeks. perhaps some transparent targeted scammer defensive actions can be put in place. just hoping. but it seems it would be beneficial to have an efficient scam reporting system that is monitored as constantly as possible. combined with a "scam watch' freeze option of the vendor. maybe if they even had btc in their account from fraudelently acquired FE's there could be some recoup here.
to be fair, tonys first post was enough to inact a freeze on OGs account for further investigating. even if theres not enough time to at that point, you can stop any more malicious action taking place. it didnt need to go on for 6x25 posts. i think buyers would be super supportive of proactive scammer targeting and any false positive would be unfortubate but acceptable and certainly better than the alternative. shit i volunteer to stand first watch
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ohhh schnapppp.. guess that g is really gone.. 2nd order on sr. its only a g. so not bad.... Liked the rite of passage statement ;)
I guess it's now time to order from tony. was worried about shipping from one country to another.
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Just as an update, we know who this person is, we know who they were previously, we know where they live and have pictures of his girlfriend. Naked ones too. He has attempted to impersonate users on SILC over the past 6 hours and has been called out every time. You scam you will be caught out.
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That's a bummer.
OG was quite friendly during our SILC chats.
Oh well. Win some, lose some.
At least NextDayAir, Tony, and Jollibee came through for me. Thanks, guys!
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Lets see the naked pics of his girlfriend then!!
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Ha I ordered a g on monday (first order) and fe'ed then saw this thread like 2 hours later.
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This.
I refuse to finalize early for anyone, too many people have proven that it is too tempting to just up and run with peoples money. When you are dealing with drug users, you are dealing with people who are weak of will. If you had thousands of dollars sitting around because of early finalization, and no product has even been sent out, what would you do? I know myself my moral fiber is much stronger than that, but like I said. With drug users this is commonly not the case.
Let's show vendors that we won't allow them even the possibility of scamming us, refuse to finalize early for anyone. If they won't allow that, then find another vendor who will. That is all we have to do as buyers to end scamming.
Now Tony, I know FE is an integral part of your business, but you have to admit after SYG, SR Discount Pharmacy, CFMF, and now OG building reputations (that vendors feel they can use now to DEMAND us to pay them upfront?) just to ultimately scam people out of TONS of money. It is hard to help out the good vendors because there are just too many snakes in the grass. I hope one day this will change, but I doubt it. I really do feel SR cannot do too much about it, besides ban them quickly instead of letting this shit storm brew up for days. It's all on our shoulders.
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This.... New buyers should learn from the people that have been on here for the best part of a year+ and have never been scammed.
Instead, they see the warnings about early finalization with new vendors and ignore it just because they are too keen. That's if they did any research on the forums at all.
My guess is lots of new members from the US didn't want to take the risk of ordering internationally from the most established vendors and thought it would be safer to stick with domestic vendors due to customs. This is not always the case, and for more reasons than just petty scamming.
Think about it.
I have thought about it, a lot. I'm new here, but I've been placing orders at online pharmacies for years. Please explain how it's ever safer for contraband to come through customs than it is to get it shipped from within the destination country? Maybe in Sudan where they don't have dogs, x-ray machines, and tracking methods, but here in the US it's ALWAYS safer to avoid customs.
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Hey all,
I haven't been following the OG saga very closely but I did receive a gram from her a few weeks ago. I have only tried a low dose of around 80mg and thought it was probably legit. I didn't feel much but that's way below my normal dose. Felt like MDMA but didn't last very long due to the dose, no visuals. If it's MDA I'd like to know, can anyone tell me how to easily test the difference?
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She has been banned for scamming.
~Digi
Does not surprise me, I was saying when they first showed up that all this lotto stuff was bad for SR and sure enough the two biggest offenders both turned out to be scammers. Even now there are sellers out there still running lottos and even worse they claim they are FREE all you have to do is PAY them around 1/2 bit to join their so called FREE drawing. I hope SR stops this before more people are scammed, I just wonder how many thousands of dollars buyers lost falling for these and how much more buyers will lose before SR just bans all this lotto garbage especially so call FREE lottos that you have to pay a couple dollars to enter.
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You know, I think it's just awesome that *legit* drug dealers can actually fuck over the scammers here, and not vice versa how it usually is in the real world.
This place brings a tear of happiness to my eye.
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If it's MDA I'd like to know, can anyone tell me how to easily test the difference?
This may not be the easiest way to detect MDA, but I believe a Simons and/or Robadope test will determine if MDA is present.
I don't have any experience using either of these tests. I've only used the Marquis one. But from what I've read, Simons and Robadope allow for a wider range of detection.
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She's still responding to messages. Yesterday I sent her this:
Congrats!
You pulled it off. Way to go. It's not that difficult to work the system, but you did it masterfully. Kudos.
She responded 9 hours ago:
re: Congrats!
Excuse me? whats that last msg supposed 2 mean? What are you talking about? I think you sent that last msg to the wrong person.
Take care,
OG
I just sent her a link to this thread.
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The REALLY crappy thing is that I'd intended to use NextDayAir, but by the time my Bitcoin order went through, I was 0.32 bitcoins short. Instead of taking 4-7 days to mine more bitcoins, I just decided to buy ObamaGirl's instead. She had 100% positive ratings. Unfortunately that rating turns out to be about as accurate as Mr. Magoo's aim. I don't know exactly how the rating system works, but it failed miserably in this case.
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So i ended up buying from OG as well and i'm incredibly sad to see this post :'(
If she has sent out MDMA in the past, has anybody gotten any recently? any contact recently?
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So i ended up buying from OG as well and i'm incredibly sad to see this post :'(
If she has sent out MDMA in the past, has anybody gotten any recently? any contact recently?
It's looking like she just set up several wallets and moved bitcoins around to make it look like she had lots of transactions. In reality, these were just her paying herself and writing positive reviews.
Did anyone with experience receive from her?
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So i ended up buying from OG as well and i'm incredibly sad to see this post :'(
If she has sent out MDMA in the past, has anybody gotten any recently? any contact recently?
It's looking like she just set up several wallets and moved bitcoins around to make it look like she had lots of transactions. In reality, these were just her paying herself and writing positive reviews.
Did anyone with experience receive from her?
I too am curious about this. Me and her exchanged some nice words for a couple days (couldve been all an act on her part) Once i got some bitcoins i noticed she had a high rating and one for best prices for domestic US MDMA, and ordered 2g....
I'm not expecting it to come in but goddamn will i kiss the mailman if it does.
Eh, it dont matter anyways,i got 1g coming from Skyy and i noticed someone finally has somewhat reasonably priced Family Fluff so im gonna have to try that out.
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I too am curious about this. Me and her exchanged some nice words for a couple days (couldve been all an act on her part) Once i got some bitcoins i noticed she had a high rating and one for best prices for domestic US MDMA, and ordered 2g....
She was super-fast and very courteous in communication. I contacted her after a week asking if that was normal. She said honestly it was a bit long, but keep watching. I told her I'd get back to her if it hadn't arrived by today, which marks two weeks since finalization.
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She was super-fast and very courteous in communication. I contacted her after a week asking if that was normal. She said honestly it was a bit long, but keep watching. I told her I'd get back to her if it hadn't arrived by today, which marks two weeks since finalization.
Sounds similar to my experience.
I finalized on Feb 28th and I've received nothing but a promise to re-ship my order early this week.
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I ordered from her and received, I also know of one other person who ordered from her and received about the same time. This was in her first week of vending. The mdma was real and of good quality. Here is my PM exchange with her, the first two messages were pre sale:
ObamaGirl re: subject
I like my profit margins on smaller orders now. I may end up offering 3.5g but in all honesty my mdma is the best that can be made in the world and I think its worth double what anyone will pay me for it anyway haha. Yes the shiping wasnt great but things have been improved. 12 days read
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tearghoa re: subject
I will try and get a post in the forums when i have a chance. I have reviewed you on safe or scam as well (https://safeorscam.com) under obamagirl@silkroadvb5piz3r.onion. I can link that to the obamagirl@tor.net page on sos if you like. I would recommend you change your packaging method, upon touching the envelop it was obvious that it was drugs inside. I would try 6 or so pieces of copy paper folded, it may require a .80 cent stamp but would be far more stealthy, that was my biggest concern with my order. The product quality was absolutely great, if we can get shipping a little more stealthy you will be my go to girl on mdma for the foreseeable future. Do you plan on offering quantity discounts on small amounts (3.5/7/14g)?
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ObamaGirl subject
I am a new vendor but I am really working hard to prove myself. I only sell the best products and so far everyone has said they were happy with my products. I really appreciate my customers but I dont do this so I can buy an escalade, I am doing this just to pay my bills each month. If you have time please give an honest review of my products and services on the forum.
Even if you dont have time I appreciate your business. But if you do have time it would really help me make
ends meet.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=13725.0 13 days read
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ObamaGirl re: MDMA
Its chunky crystals that when you turn to powder the powder looks white. 1 month read
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tearghoa MDMA
Is your MDMA white, tan, crystal or something else? Thanks! 1 month read
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Thank you for this info!
There's a lot of us newbs who've ordered from her this week and i'm pretty sure we all think we got scammed.
I'm still not going to expect a shipment from her, but who knows, i could be pleasantly surprised.
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lololololololololololololo
is it just me, or are these guys just a tad bit sketch?
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its not just you jewfro..
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i regret not making 3 accounts at the same time >_>
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I'll say it again. A lot of these people could have been saved the hassle of being scammed, just cause they saw the thread too late (and thats only those who actually use the forums)
There needs to be a 'scam watch' freeze option with perhaps a little more consistent monitoring of alerts from the community. OG could have been frozen before trickling in the last of her victims!
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I'll say it again. A lot of these people could have been saved the hassle of being scammed, just cause they saw the thread too late (and thats only those who actually use the forums)
There needs to be a 'scam watch' freeze option with perhaps a little more consistent monitoring of alerts from the community. OG could have been frozen before trickling in the last of her victims!
That certainly would be nice. I know I've learned by lesson (albeit the hard way) and I will be spending lots of time on the forums prior to making purchases with anyone. Obviously can't rely on the feedback alone. I read ObamaGirl's review thread beforehand but shoulda been tipped off because it was only a couple pages.
Live and learn, :(
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That certainly would be nice. I know I've learned by lesson (albeit the hard way) and I will be spending lots of time on the forums prior to making purchases with anyone. Obviously can't rely on the feedback alone. I read ObamaGirl's review thread beforehand but shoulda been tipped off because it was only a couple pages.
Live and learn, :(
I also checked out the forums. There were only a few pages but they were mostly positive. Who knows how many of them were just OG? She'd actually been around longer than NextDayAir at the time I ordered and had more positive responses, too. The forums were a little dry, but not barren.
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lol
"this seller has been flagged as 'a piece of shit' "
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Fuck that noise! You can't top Tony! Keep on keepin' on, man. Everything I've ordered has been absolutely top notch without question.
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In all honestly I was doing everything perfect. I didnt do 1 thing wrong to any customers but the same day tony76 decided 2 make my vendor account worthless was the same day that I maximized the remaining value. I am more than happy 2 sell my mdma at the prices on SR. Believe me it was enough money per gram that I was *VERY* happy. But once tony decided 2 fuck me over I did the best thing, as far as what would generate the most money.
Now I have enough money 2 change locations and reup with a more expensive but more lucrative drug. So I can just reopen a vendor accoutn and operate the same way I did on this one. I plan 2 be honest, just like I was on this one, and do a good job. If you ask would I do the same thing if some1 tried 2 ruin my name and was succeeding based on a lie than yes I would.
Tony76 made up a lie, ruined my business, but b4 I walked away I got a little over $7,000. So fuck him. I still win. In the future I plan 2 use many safeguards that should prevent tony76s wrath. So in the future my vendor will be pumping shit out with I hope no problems and just an all around honest drug business. But no matter what I will get my money out of it.
Thank you for your time it means alot 2 me.
I want you 2 know I did *CHANGE* my habits. I went from running an honest business 2 stealing all your money. I didnt *WANT* 2 do that but its important than I get the money honestly or dishonestly and I will do whichever.
Now its going 2 take me sometime 2 set up in a new location but I am kinda lucky because like i said the drug I will resell on SR is WAY more profitable and easy 2 sell than MDMA.
I never wanna sell mdma or k again. Both I was making very good profit per bag but its 2 much bullshit. Just get an addictive drug and watch the money pile up :)
Fuck this Obama*BITCH* >:(
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This seems like one of those situations where the person is a complete nut job and actually believes their own lies.
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This.... New buyers should learn from the people that have been on here for the best part of a year+ and have never been scammed.
Instead, they see the warnings about early finalization with new vendors and ignore it just because they are too keen. That's if they did any research on the forums at all.
My guess is lots of new members from the US didn't want to take the risk of ordering internationally from the most established vendors and thought it would be safer to stick with domestic vendors due to customs. This is not always the case, and for more reasons than just petty scamming.
Think about it.
I have thought about it, a lot. I'm new here, but I've been placing orders at online pharmacies for years. Please explain how it's ever safer for contraband to come through customs than it is to get it shipped from within the destination country? Maybe in Sudan where they don't have dogs, x-ray machines, and tracking methods, but here in the US it's ALWAYS safer to avoid customs.
Ignoring the part about never finalizing early from new vendors and just focusing on the part about always thinking it's automatically safer to use domestic suppliers:
1) If you order from O/S from a reputable vendor with excellent success rates and excellent packaging the odds seem to be that most will get their package.
2) If an O/S vendor gets raided and an envelope is found with your address on it OR the vendor is LE or cooperating with LE I highly doubt that information is going to be valuable to cops in the EU for example. If the same thing happens within the US, the information can be harvested and used via state and federal agencies and you are more likely to see trouble.
3) If you order from a piece of shit domestic seller who is a scammer and they decide to pass on a whole bunch of addresses and other info to LE anonymously or do anything else nasty with your info it is more likely to be damaging if you live in the same country or state. An established highly rated vendor regardless of location is not likely to do stupid shit like this.
Admittedly, in a country the size of the US it is still likely LE wouldn't take info about possession of small amounts too seriously. But if you live somewhere smaller, the risk of ordering domestically is equal or greater than risking customs IMO.
Also, you have real rights and protections in the US, if you are careful it is difficult for LE to bust you for an envelope from O/S.
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Ignoring the part about never finalizing early from new vendors and just focusing on the part about always thinking it's automatically safer to use domestic suppliers:
1) If you order from O/S from a reputable vendor with excellent success rates and excellent packaging the odds seem to be that most will get their package.
2) If an O/S vendor gets raided and an envelope is found with your address on it OR the vendor is LE or cooperating with LE I highly doubt that information is going to be valuable to cops in the EU for example. If the same thing happens within the US, the information can be harvested and used via state and federal agencies and you are more likely to see trouble.
3) If you order from a piece of shit domestic seller who is a scammer and they decide to pass on a whole bunch of addresses and other info to LE anonymously or do anything else nasty with your info it is more likely to be damaging if you live in the same country or state. An established highly rated vendor regardless of location is not likely to do stupid shit like this.
Admittedly, in a country the size of the US it is still likely LE wouldn't take info about possession of small amounts too seriously. But if you live somewhere smaller, the risk of ordering domestically is equal or greater than risking customs IMO.
Also, you have real rights and protections in the US, if you are careful it is difficult for LE to bust you for an envelope from O/S.
Good points. There are advantages and disadvantages to both, I guess. Domestically there are fewer points where the package is likely to get intercepted. I used to pay about double from on IOP in Tijuana because they would smuggle the products into the US and mail from San Diego. There were companies selling the same products for less than half the price, but they would mail from Tijuana or Juarez and a lot of their packages got seized.
On the flipside, if a package gets seized by customs, the worst case scenario is probably a love letter. I doubt customs is going to bother coming to the Midwest from Jersey to bust me over a gram of anything. It's much more likely that I just get the green tape and an offer to produce legal paperwork stating I'm allowed to import 1mg of MDMA or they'll destroy it by such-and-such date. If it gets discovered at a post office anywhere near me, the odds are much higher that LE will take the time to do a controlled delivery.
That said, I'm not ordering anything from Holland. I've received packages from Pakistan, Chad, the Philippines, and Hong Kong, and ALL of them made me less nervous than a package from NL would make me. I'd love to try some of Candyshop's speakers or the Defcon's, but I'm just not ready to risk an E shipment from Amsterdam. I'm going back there next year so I'll just have to wait. Looks like I'm going to be choosing between Tony and NDA. As appealing as NDA's reviews are, it's twice as much. Canada might as well be Maine, so I'll probably just get 2 grams of Tony's.
Look forward to doing business with you, T. Now I just need to scrape up 20 bitcoins :)
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Even though all his/her listing are gone, ObamaGirl is still responding to my PMs and telling me to be patient. I'll be truly shocked if it actually shows up as I've never heard of a domestic Priority shipment taking more than 2 weeks, but there it is. In his/her defense, I've never had a scammer continue communication after they've already received the money and been called out for scamming. It's strange behavior, to be sure. I've already been scammed, assuming that's what happened. What purpose would it serve for a vendor that's been banned to continue communication and delivery promises? I'm not giving them any more money. Their reputation is already shredded. What purpose does it serve for him/her to continue communication?
I'm confused. :o
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Even though all his/her listing are gone, ObamaGirl is still responding to my PMs and telling me to be patient. I'll be truly shocked if it actually shows up as I've never heard of a domestic Priority shipment taking more than 2 weeks, but there it is. In his/her defense, I've never had a scammer continue communication after they've already received the money and been called out for scamming. It's strange behavior, to be sure. I've already been scammed, assuming that's what happened. What purpose would it serve for a vendor that's been banned to continue communication and delivery promises? I'm not giving them any more money. Their reputation is already shredded. What purpose does it serve for him/her to continue communication?
I'm confused. :o
Yeah he's acting the same way towards me, when was your order supposedly shipped? Priority has never taken more than 3-5 days for me so I'll know by the end of the week. Totally not expecting to receive anything however heh.
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Yeah he's acting the same way towards me, when was your order supposedly shipped? Priority has never taken more than 3-5 days for me so I'll know by the end of the week. Totally not expecting to receive anything however heh.
I ordered on 2-28, finalized early (and supposedly shipped) on 2-29. I was holding my breath until last Friday when I passed out. Now I'm just wishing on random stars.
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^ Yeah that's way too long for priority, time for us to move on my friend. I'm sure there are various reasons for him to keep up the front.
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^ Yeah that's way too long for priority, time for us to move on my friend. I'm sure there are various reasons for him to keep up the front.
That's what I'm trying to figure out. He's been outed. His listings have been pulled. Nobody else will be able to buy from him. Why keep up the grift?
Oh well, I'm moving on, too. I don't understand why he's hanging around. There's no advantage. A small part of me is still hoping I was one of the people he chose to not selectively scam. Pretty stupid, huh?
Best of luck to you in the future!
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BTW, what happened to all the ObamaGirl threads? I went 30 pages deep in the forums looking for her review threads to try to track down some of the positive reviews she received. There's nothing. Were the threads deleted?
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Their reputation is already shredded. What purpose does it serve for him/her to continue communication?
I'm confused. :o
Scammer turned troll?