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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: ScamWatcher on December 20, 2011, 05:52 pm
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Anybody else think this guy is suspicious?
He keeps trying to get everyone to finalize early and he has no reputation. All of his feedback is from early finalizers and out of escrow feedback.
He is making up excuses for shipping saying holidays this and that. By the time the holidays are over, this guy could make over 10 to 20 grand.
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I had a successful order from him for GHB. I finalized after receiving the package, but haven't left feedback yet. I had a slight issue with the way it was packaged, not the shipping time which was very fast to the "US", or the concept, but the execution. I PMed him to let him know, but I guess others felt the same way. He said he has changed his procedure.
My wife, who drinks like a fuckin' fish, calls GHB "the same buzz without the calories". Knocks her ass out. It is an enjoyable product and I anticipate purchasing more from this vendor.
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i do know that SYG scammed wumg00 for almost 5k last week
What exactly happened? 5k, ouch!
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I just ordered 1/2 g of Wumg00's H, so I will update this as the deal goes through. =)
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I had ordered some vials of GHB weeks ago, and they didn't arrive so we settled on a 50% refund. I had just been scammed by Cantfeelmyface, so was a bit disheartened, but Wumg00 had great communication and he didn't feel like a scammer, hence the 50% I proposed.
Fast forward to today, coming home from Christmas to find his interestingly packed shipment waiting in my mailbox. I guess it just got caught up in the fucked up holiday mail system, only to pop back out a month later. Though I haven't tried the product yet, I'm sure its good. Now I gotta get him that 50% back, keep shit fair.
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^^^ Good man.
I have yet to place an order with wumg00, seems like a good fellow. That review from oppyate in the H thread convinced that he is a good seller.
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Nothing but good experiences here with Wumg00
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I also read the double plus good review the other day.
eta: Fable, look forward to your review.
I need to make an order soon and was tossing up the pros and cons between Nucleo and Wumg00 (most likely would have placed an order with both at the same time today or tomorrow)
- Nucleo - his gear sounds fucking great, but no escrow and a very long shipping time to Midwest, but lower prices.
- Wumg00 - gear sounds good in the forum, closer to me equal less shipping hassles and time, but more expensive...
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he is an honest seller... i would go ahead and order from him. He is safe.
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I have never scammed ANYONE and i have had people send me a lot of money to buy 5 grams out of escrow by western union and paypal and they all got their product. I am thinking whoever started this thread is a competitor not liking my good service. but there is not a single person who has spoken or done biz with me that would say I am a scammer, I work hard to go out of my way to be fair to everyone and give the best service possible and would appreciate that you either delete this thread or at least make it fair and rename it as "wumg00 reviews" and then ppl can write whatever they want about me as long as its true but calling me a scammer with absolutely zero basis for doing so is very irresponsible!! anyways, make it write and edit this threads name cuz this isnt cool at all. I have been scammed so badly on this site for thousands of dollars and I am still honest and fair to everyone!!!
do the right thing!
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can I please get some love shown on here? its like no matter what i do or how hard i try to help everyone and do the right thing, people on here wanna fuck with me and bring me down! I am really starting to have enough of this, its not fair at all especially since I am more of a scammer victim than a scammer and when I see posts like this, honestly, it fuckin hurts man, cuz I really love this place and try really hard to help and be kool with everyone. can some people who know me and bought off of me plz help me out here and set this guy str8 whatever his agenda is??? thnx to my SR friends in advance!
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Wumg00 is cool and legit, pay no attention to this thread. This is just someone being silly. Move on everyone, nothing to see here lol
LY WUMZ! 8)
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Looks like pretty much everyone in here has your back man; who knows whats up with the OP, perhaps a competing vendor? His post isn't based on anything but speculation either.
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Wumg00, thanks for addressing this thread.
LR, SpaceChimp, Shock and MagicMan - thanks for the info.
Sometimes I am like a kid in a candy store and spend half the day drooling over all the fucking treats here and the other half the time trying to count my BTC and trying my hardest to make up my mind and finally make a fucking purchase.
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It is unfortunate, but because of a number of scams, both by buyers and sellers over the past couple of months, everybody is getting jumpy.
Buyers are getting jumpy, worrying more and more about not receiving what they pay for and Sellers are seeing a rise in first time buyers claiming the goods never arrived.
This atmosphere of distrust has led Sellers into refusing to deal with new buyers or buyers with less than a certain number of completed transactions. Buyers see the call for early finalization as a reminder of how some sellers made off with quite a bit of peoples BTC by finalizing early and then when they had scammed as much as they could, disappearing.
This has led many people, in my opinion, into panicking the minute a seller requests early finalization.
I have been on SR for 6 months and I have completed around 35-40 transactions, most of them within escrow, but some with early finalization and some direct transfers to a select few trusted vendors. I haven't been scammed yet.
One thing I find really annoying is to see a post hinting that someone is a scammer, from someone with only 1 post on the board. From my perspective, it would seem they are more interested in shit disturbing than actually helping out other members.
The key to continued happiness on SR is to do your research. Go through the forums, read the posts, check the feedback and finally, follow your feelings. If after everything you have read and seen you are still uncomfortable dealing with a specific vendor, then don't.
If you are not comfortable with a vendor, don't post a message asking if the vendor is a scammer. Instead, ask if anyone else has bought from them and get their opinions. It is the difference between looking for information and making an unfounded accusation.
If you have dealt with the vendor (or buyer), then by all means, let us know. But give us the facts, not emotion. I don't need to read how you think the guy is a scum bucket or a selective scammer. I can make up my own mind. Just give us the facts. When you ordered, how you ordered and what happened afterwards.
We have too many people starting rumors and not enough people giving the facts.
The minute I saw the listing from wumg00 and realized it was a local Canadian listing, I immediately started checking it out. I searched the forums for anything anybody was saying about him/her and made up my own mind about ordering the product. I kept the initial order to a size I was willing to lose should I be wrong, but once I made up my mind to order it, it made no difference to me if I went through escrow or not. Either way, if the vendor is out to screw you, being in escrow isn't the be all and end all. You still have to wait 18 days before you can start resolution and even then there is no guarantee you are going to get all your money back. The best you could hope for is 50% if you get SR involved, unless there is clear evidence of scamming on the vendors side, which is pretty hard to prove if the vendor has been even reasonably communicative.
So I placed my order, and even though wumg00 was swamped and had a family emergency, the product got to me the day before Christmas. To say I was a happy camper is putting it mildly. I was anticipating a dry Christmas by then, as several other orders I had made were still in transit.
I was happy enough with the product to make a second order for 5g's, which should tell you something about how I felt about the product.
So, lets try and be a little more thoughtful in the future before making posts hinting that a vendor is scamming people. If you aren't sure about ordering from them, ask around first.
Merry Xmas and Happy New Year everyone :)
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yes, I should have just left this thread die out, but it's also a good reminder (for those new here?) that all someone needs to do is create a new forum account and talk some shit.
and I have read that some competitors will do this, or place an order with a competing vender only to talk shit in the feedback and leave a 1/5 and fuck with their seller rating.
Bastards, they are.
Capt. jojo - thanks for the info re escrow - and informing me that the buyer would be lucky to see 50% given back, and that it's a process in which SR needs to get involved in - and harder if they are a stellar vender.
Capt. (or anyone) - just a quick question, I had placed an order from far, far away and knew ahead of time that shipping was going to be like two+ weeks because of the Holidays and the Post Office delays - well, enough time passed and I needed to finalize early (before it arrived) as to not have it go into auto-finalize and give me a black mark on my stats - I wasn't too worried as this vender had a 100% rating and nothing but great reviews and they all said long shipping time - my question is, would that have been the time to hit the Resolve (I think that's what it was called) in order to give me and vender more time for arrival before auto-finalize kicked in? Is that how it works?
Sorry for bringing this thread up to the top again. I promise I will let it die and ask my questions from now on in the right threads.
Cheers.
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It should be retitled:
Wumg00 = Legit?
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I'll try wumg00 when I get some more btc next year. Too many bills due now. :(
Maybe not quite as good as Nucleo's, but should get here quicker and probably has less chance of getting seized.
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toelessJoe: If you are waiting for a package and it hasn't arrived yet, yes, use the resolve link. You can extend the finalize date via resolve. So if it is due to finalize tomorrow you can add 5 days to that. I have used it a few times for packages from far away. The vendor gets the message and agrees. Or they could counter with a refund (unlikely on the first extension).
I will extend the finalize date whenever it reaches 2 days and I haven't received the package yet.
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Hey ScamWatcher..so are you a Competitor or just an Anonymous Asshole?
I've made a few Transactions with wumg00 and so far flawless. H is Ultra Legit and probably some of the better Top Shelf stuff that's been Reviewed on H Vendor Forum, could it be that his success is affecting competition in the H Market? I saw this same shit play out as more Weed Vendors started competing for Price and Quality.
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Capt. - thanks, exactly what I wanted to know.
I will be placing an order with wumg00 just as soon as by BTC come through.
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I am just on my lunch break at my "job" job and wanted to see if this was still going and i just wanted to say a big THANK YOU to all my friends and clients who have come on here to set the record straight and to SCAMWATCHER: GO EAT A DICK AND GET YOUR OWN HUSTLE INSTEAD OF FUCKING WITH MINE!! 8)
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This was my fault; the thread was on its way to death and, being the first wumg00 thread I saw, I posted my favorable review in it. But if anyone actually reads it, they would know that he isn't a scammer at all. On his GHB right now, and its good.
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Yes SpaceChimp..you're Right. For it is Written...Your Punishment is you have to surrender the last 3 SR Purchases, Voluntarily and over to my account, then Everyone who Posted here will be splitting the spoils.
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I can vouch for you Wumg00. You have provided me with great customer service. My order hasn't arrived yet but the DCN says it's in my post office. I don't have doubts that it will be delivered tomorrow. He even upgraded me to first class because f some issues on hs end which were beyond his control. So don't make false accusations until you actually buy from this vendor.
*Update*
Got my product from him yesterday. All i can say is god damn. His shit is primo. I don't IV so i snorted a small bump to test the waters. It was stronger than any full bag I've ever done. True, I haven't done much dope, but this shit blew me away. Nice and white. I would go as far to say it's pretty damn near pure. I don't have tests to back it up, but that's just my opinion from experience.
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Wumg00, thanks for addressing this thread.
LR, SpaceChimp, Shock and MagicMan - thanks for the info.
Sometimes I am like a kid in a candy store and spend half the day drooling over all the fucking treats here and the other half the time trying to count my BTC and trying my hardest to make up my mind and finally make a fucking purchase.
same fucking boat over here
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Wumg00 is 100% legit. I just received an order of H from him today and tried it out. It's definitely heroin and oodquality (I haven't had the opportunity to properly test it, but when I do you'll find my comparison of Nucleo vs wumg00's heroin in this other thread: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=2484.msg69952#msg69952
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Wumg00 is no scammer. I ordered some of his H and I guarantee that it is some of the best you will ever find. =)
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Wumg00 is no scammer. I ordered some of his H and I guarantee that it is some of the best you will ever find. =)
Agreed
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No way. Until now Wumg00 had proof me is a HONEST seller. II just did a transaction (bitcoins) with him. He was fair, his rate was good. t. And he was very helpfull ( i am very new in SR). Please lets not throw insults and words to ruin the reputation of the few honest seller that we got (we dont have that many). This easy trigger opinionated idiots are going to finish with S.R. About the childish opinion of ScamWatcher the seller offer you a shipping upgrade and you can say yes and choose it or not and choose the normal way. I my self order a second time from Wumg00 and i got offer a shipping upgrade. If you select that upgrade then you can not bitch about it and call Wumg00 a scammer. What happened you finish your bitcoins and you dont have more to buy candy?
When someone call scamer to a seller or to a buyer he should bring first the proof of it (it can be a problem, miscomunitation) to the mods of S.R. and them if they are not satisfy they can comment on the situation in the posts to the comunity. Not start flaming. If not we are sabotaging SR.
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The OP should come back and edit the title because it's a false accusation. Don't want to scare any new buyers away who just glance at the topic. All the evidence shows that wumg00 is not a scammer.
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Wung00 is not a scammer. He has great communication and when I bought bitcoins off of him I recieved them less then an hour after sending money through WU.
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So is Wumg00 a scammer or not? I would like to order some of his pure heroin. I already got scammed by Sugar Mama when she cashed my Money Pak but didn't send me any coin. So I am trying to be extra careful any advice would really be appreciated thanks guys!
Silk Road kicks ass!
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SUGAR MAMA scammed you?? Im sure its a mistake or something cuz I just did an exchange with her on monday for like 800$ and she was on point and she couldve kept my money no problem but she was honest and great to me! I think you should talk to her because i am 99% sure she doesnt scam!
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Someone needs to change this bullshit, I don't usually do forums but when I saw this it pissed me off. I dealt with WUMG00 before and recently made a large purchase from him out of escrow, everything went 100% smooth, he is one of the best sellers on SR, unlike some other clowns on here who won't respond for 6+ days after you make a purchase from them. Please don't accuse people without any kind of evidence what so ever.
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After finalizing early and being strung along with delayed ship dates for a week I was promised a tracking number no later than yesterday evening. I am now getting no replies (again) from wumg00. Is anyone else in the same situation?
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After finalizing early and being strung along with delayed ship dates for a week I was promised a tracking number no later than yesterday evening. I am now getting no replies (again) from wumg00. Is anyone else in the same situation?
Please relax. Wumg00 has a real job too and sometimes it takes time for him to respond. I really wish you hadn't stirred up this shit again. During the last few days of last week Wumg00 had the flu and he just got back to work on Monday. Please be patient, vendors have real lives too. I will be willing to bet you 100 bitcoins that he will respond to you soon...just be patient please.
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Yes, I too have a 'real' job and life. I have gotten responses from wumg00, however all are excuses. What I need is resolution. If your willing to bet a 100 bitcoins that I get that I'll take the bet.
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I just completed my first transaction with Wumg00, and NO HE IS NOT A SCAMMER!
Throughout the whole transaction process, his communication was good, and knowing that he was dealing with some
things at the time I placed my order, I know he worked hard to get it to me as quickly as possible. What I got was of extremely high quality, too.
Without specific details being provided, I have to seriously wonder how many of the people complaining about sellers in general are operating on "dope fiend time". When you're on dope fiend time and waiting for the guy who's holding, ten minutes becomes an hour.
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I placed an order over a week ago and while I've been promised shipment and tracking info many times I've got neither. Am I operating on 'dope fiend' time or is a week too short a time to expect someone that already has my money to ship my order? While communication has been pretty constant all I get is 'It'll ship tomorrow', 'Sorry, I've been too sick to take care of my business', 'Wife mailed out packages, I just forgot to send your tracking info'. I've asked for a refund and have been ignored. With no tracking info and no refund I come to one conclusion - I've been scammed.
wumg00 is a scammer and it seems that he has setup multiple accounts to 'have his back' when questions come up.
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And here we go again... More accusations...... *sigh*.....
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relax, i ordered on weekend and got tracking number last night, due for delivery today. I'm sure everyone elses packages went out yesterday too.
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I find it very strange that of all of us that have ordered from Wumg00, we received a tracking number, we have had great communication with him (give or take a day or two due to work or illness, received our product without any hassle whatsoever...but yet, still this ONE buyer...ONE FUCKING PERSON (with only 3 posts might I add) is having an issue. Doesn't anyone else find this odd? This really sounds to me like a buyer scam...Wumg00 if you read this can you please address this situation with this "fakir420" character who is a newbie with 3 posts, and straighten out all of this bullshit. This guy is being a real pain in the thread and probably scaring off some potential customers for you and potential money to be made by you. Also, it seems as though he left you a 1 of 5 on your feedback and has fucked up your feedback score...This issue needs to get straightened out asap...and my honest opinion is that this "fakir420" guy/gal is one of these 3 options------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
1. He/she is a legitimate buyer with very little to no patience and there has been an issue with communication. <-----/
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2. He/she is a scamming buyer who is trying to get free dope, free bitcoins, or both free dope and free bitcoins.
OR
3. He/She is a jealous vendor trying to do what he/she can to get rid of competition or try to get their competition's feedback rating lowered in order to potentially steal away buyers or divert potential buyers and sway the consumer to their store by comparing the two feedback scores.
My response to options 1, 2 and 3.
1. Please be patient and relax. Wumg00 is a wonderful vendor. A truthful, polite, very friendly, and just an overall wonderful human being with great product. When you finally get this issue resolved, you will understand why we have been bragging on Wumg00 so much.
2. You are truly a scumbag piece of shit and I hope karma comes back to bite you in the dick and balls/tits and clit...however, it is my firm belief that you are a scammer and it is likely that you actually have no dick and balls/tits and clit for karma to bite. In that case, then I hope karma pulls out it's giant cock and fucks you in the ass with no lube and finishing off the act with a "Dirty Sanchez".
3. Please refer to the response for #2.
What does everyone think of my theory in this situation? Well, everyone except "fakir420", you have no voice whatsoever when it comes to my theory because it involves you.
To everyone else...DISCUSS!!!
~LezBot Out! 8) 8) 8)
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LR... I have mad respect for you as you are a senior member and you know almost all the vendors but Wumg00 has been unresponsive to me for the past 24 hours as well. When i was about to place my orders he responded within minutes. he's been giving me the same excuses other are claiming. Maybe he's sincere, maybe he's trying to get out of the game with as much money as possible. who knows???? If my International overnight delivery is received in the next 48 hours i will edit my post praising him. I just get uncomfortable with the excuses and lack of communication.
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I understand your concern. I messaged him and asked that he address the forums. I am sure there is a legitimate excuse and he will make things right. If I am wrong...well, hell I don't know lol My llast message from him was like 14 hrs ago. He usually doesn't get back to me before noon though so I'm not alarmed. Just stay confident bro.
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thanks bro. your words of wisdom are soothing. I'm still worried but i feel confident ill hear from him soon.
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just think how shitty it was for him and that whole ordeal with SumYunGai...Wumg00 got took for like $3000 by SYG back when all of that shit happened in early December...wow, I would have tracked the bastard down Rambo style and killed his ass lol
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At this rate wung00 will be leaving with Nucleo. >:( At least give him a couple days before jumping to conclusions.
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All I know is some jerk left him 1/5 feedback after 1 day because he didn't send a tracking number immediately. WTF? - 1/5 feedback makes sense when you've REALLY been ripped off, not when mommy doesn't pop her titty in your mouth at the first sound of you crying!
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Yeah, I dunno about that...if I paid the ridiculous rates for overnight shipping out of Canada, and I didn't get a DCN within 24 hours, and I early finalized, I'd certainly leave it at 1/5 until something was done to correct the situation. If nothing else, to get the vendor's attention.
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well, i dont believe there should be any scammers on SR so I am going to do my duty as a good member of SR and delist all my prods since I am such a terrrible scammer! see my full statement about why I am delisting in H vendors thread!
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^^^ dear wumg00, please do not leave SR... :(
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thnx mito!! You always been kool with me since day one and no one knew me and i appreciate that! I think i just need a few days to clear my head and calm down cuz i worked so hard for my 100 rating that it REALLY PISSED ME OFF to have it dropped to 94 for no good reason!! I think once everyone gets their pkgs and start seeing they over reacted and fix their feedbk and my score goes bk up, then i will be back! thnx again mito, your one of the good ppl that keeps me here!
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:( stupid whiners.... I wanted to order from WUMG today! >:(
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Yes, I too have a 'real' job and life. I have gotten responses from wumg00, however all are excuses. What I need is resolution. If your willing to bet a 100 bitcoins that I get that I'll take the bet.
Do you owe me bitcoins yet???
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:( stupid whiners.... I wanted to order from WUMG today! >:(
dude im in the same fucking boat. what the fuck. where am I going to good non-bullshit dope from now? who's going to break out the good tar for me? where is JD2012, Heisenburg?
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I want the good tar also!
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Yes, I too have a 'real' job and life. I have gotten responses from wumg00, however all are excuses. What I need is resolution. If your willing to bet a 100 bitcoins that I get that I'll take the bet.
Do you owe me bitcoins yet???
your gonna have to wait to collect LR, this guy is the ONE person whos tracking I cant find, I think my wifey might have fucked up and sent it normal airmail with no tracking so your gonna have to wait till he gets the pkg to collect your 100btc but I can tell you its money in the bank! and when he pays your 100 btc he can also fix my score that he trashed. I admit, its my fault that his shipping got fucked but cut me a lil slack and have some patience, the pkg is coming. I wouldnt send everyone elses and scam one person for 1/4 g, im not that fkin stupid!!!
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I missed the opportunity to grab some before it was too late.
Now with Aphex gone, and nucleo leaving, I have no other real options to buy my gear on SR. Where I live, decent H is just not an option - and I'll be damned if I'd go back to paying for those overpriced pharms in the mean time.
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I am waiting on an order from wumg00. I expect it to be here by Tuesday.... I'll let everyone know when it comes in. I have ordered from wumg00 before, and it was the most fire shit ever. Keep truckin', wumg00!
-fable(d)
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Whoever started this thread at the end of December must have felt a slap in the face by now... Because Wumg00 is now ranked #24 on Silk Road and is one of the most trustworthy sellers of H that this site has to offer.
I'm a new member, and after all Wumg has been through, I had low hopes that he would sell to me. But I sent him a very respectful PM **RESPECT is the KEY to SR, people** asking him if he would mind if I placed an order. He replied very quickly, and we had some very friendly exchange filled with kind words and :) 's.
My product was shipped Wednesday. I live near the great lakes USA. With good luck, I may have it by Monday. (edit: 9 days, no show. fucking customs :'( ) I'll be posting back next week though when I get it, also posting an extended review of product.
And people who think vendors are scamming because they request EF from newb buyers... Chill the fuck out guys! This place isn't McDonalds for drugs. A Vendor takes just as much of a chance choosing to sell to a new buyer (risking buyer scam, trashed feedback, etc) as a Buyer takes when he finalizes early (vendor scam, not receiving product, etc.). But with somebody as reputable and honest as Wumg00, Finalizing early should NOT be a problem at all--- you should feel honored and lucky that he chose to deal with you!
Thanks Wumg, I can't wait for your fire to get here! ;)
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This thread needs to be deleted... srsly... wumg00 is a model vendor and the title of this thread is just ridiculous.
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im sorry but just because a few buyers have had a bad xp with wumg doesn't automatically mean hes a scammer.....theres 2 sides to every story. From what ive read its clear whoever started this thread is either another vendor out to ruin wumgs reputation or is just a plain ass complaining coz he didnt get his own way and spit his dummy out of the pram......my 2 year old does the same thing!
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wasn't it digitalink who started this thread? and the other thread claiming to be an "Uncle" of a dead kid and it was from someone cutting their heroin with fentanyl? and then going back to his digitalink handle and shilling his dope? he would post constantly about his scramble dope. he'd start new posts and would remind everyone of his great scramble in other people's thread shilling his scramble. or do I have it wrong?
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wasn't it digitalink who started this thread? and the other thread claiming to be an "Uncle" of a dead kid and it was from someone cutting their heroin with fentanyl? and then going back to his digitalink handle and shilling his dope? he would post constantly about his scramble dope. he'd start new posts and would remind everyone of his great scramble in other people's thread shilling his scramble. or do I have it wrong?
im from the uk (england to be exact) but sorry i havent a clue what you just said lol.....transatlantic translation needed
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im sorry but just because a few buyers have had a bad xp with wumg doesn't automatically mean hes a scammer.....theres 2 sides to every story. From what ive read its clear whoever started this thread is either another vendor out to ruin wumgs reputation or is just a plain ass complaining coz he didnt get his own way and spit his dummy out of the pram......my 2 year old does the same thing!
If you ask me, whoever started this is another H vendor who's worried that Wumg00 will get more business. The guy who started it "ScamWatcher" still has a newbie status and only one post-- this one. It was started back in December, so obviously someone made the account just to post this thread and then took off. Looks like another vendor was trying to put the scare into people so they would all buy from him for the holidays instead of wumg. Sigh... People and their stupid jealousy :P
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wumg00 for as long as i've had his acquaintance has been nothing but a stellar seller..