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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Notshadow on November 18, 2011, 11:22 pm
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Does anyone know what his shipping policy is for multiple items? Do I have to pay for each item or can i pay for just one First Class with DCN? Just wondering because I would like to order before I go to work tonite without a computer and he hasn't responded yet..
Thanx:)
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I made a purchase from him and it was all inclusive. I had the most basic shipping though. I don't recall if it was First Class but the package ended up having a DCN number when it arrived.
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Just made my purchase, he responded to me and cleared it all up. Definitely looking forward to whats coming in the mail:)st
Just for reference, I paid First Class on each item, and First Class with a DCN on one item and all items are going to be shipped in one envelope. Hopefully a small discreet one, I'm sure. :)
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I'm not sure they even ship items, if they do maybe they selective scam small orders they don't feel are worth shipping.
Ordered a small amount of some different 2c products on Nov. 12th, that were supposedly shipped from within the US to my address in the US on Nov. 14th. I'm thinking there is no way they really shipped on that date, as it would have been here by now even with the slowest USPS option. I have sent a guitar from coast to coast via slow ass FedEx ground and that took only 5 days to arrive. I somehow doubt FedEx ground going from the East coast to California would beat USPS air mail or the like.
Can anyone vouch for their shipping time/if they really ship when they say they do? They have been called out in the past for marking packages shipped before they actually ship them, but in their profile they claim to have stopped this practice before I placed my order.
Just my luck, I find a place that actually is semi-legit for drugs online and then get more raw deals than I would from a strange dealer in the real World. I'd stay away from Etizolam personally, even if they are legit the headache of the process isn't worth it and with their shipping time you will be better off ordering even from a source in the farthest reaches of the Globe instead.
EDIT: To anyone wondering why I'm not trying to contact Etizolam directly, check out this rudely worded and all caps excerpt from their profile:
"DO NOT WASTE MY TIME ASKING ME WHEN YOUR ORDER WILL SHIP. THE SITE WILL TELL YOU ONCE IT'S IN TRANSIT. NO PREDICTIONS OR GUARANTEES WILL BE MADE FOR SHIPPING TIME SO DON'T ASK. IF YOU ARE TOO IMPATIENT FOR THIS PROCESS GO AWAY NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE."
While I'm not wondering WHEN but IF my order will/did ship, you can see how contacting a vendor with such a statement in their profile would be useless. I'd assume many many people have had shipping issues with this vendor for them to need to add that into their profile. Is it wrong to assume someone with a history of marking unshipped items shipped would do it again, even after they've said they had discontinued such a practice? Note, this excerpt was not part of the profile when I had ordered, or I certainly would have stayed clear.
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Sal, I was concerned with my order from etizolam too. I sent a few messages and got no response and it still hadn't been marked as "in transit" (this was before he had his "don't pm me on shipments" message). He did deliver though and am content with my purchase.
You need to read his profile more thoroughly. His first status post from 9/27 explains his shipping process. It's pretty plainly written that he does not ship every day. Second, he wouldn't put that message at the top of profile in caps if he didn't have to say it, but apparently he does since he is a slow shipper (which has been apparent since 9/27). You don't need to take the message as a personal attack.
Since you say it hasn't shipped why don't you just cancel the order?
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I had an order with him sit for a week so i canceled.
I'm trying again but it's coming up on 4 days now so i don't know. I know there is a holiday this week but come on.
If he doesn't like to ship small items why does he have tiny increments of stuff you know?
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I had an order with him sit for a week so i canceled.
I'm trying again but it's coming up on 4 days now so i don't know. I know there is a holiday this week but come on.
If he doesn't like to ship small items why does he have tiny increments of stuff you know?
Thank you! I was wondering the same thing myself, if you are fickle about completing small purchases, why offer small orders? I intended to buy a large quantity in due time, but was wanting to test the waters first in case of a scam. No reason to lose lots of cash when you can lose a little instead.
4 days sitting from processing to being marked in transit? I'm guessing it'll be marked shipped whether or not it is before the 5th day to avoid a potential cancelled order.
It's bittersweet to see others have had similar shipping issues with Etizolam. I did send them a message yesterday asking if/when my order had been shipped (it said it was shipped the 14th of Nov) but no dice yet.
In case they have some kind of policy where they don't give a shit about how they handle small orders, they should know that because of how they handled this particular small order (which was a test precursor to a large order) they won't be receiving a large order.
Since you say it hasn't shipped why don't you just cancel the order?
It SAYS it has shipped so cancellation isn't an option at this point, and like an idiot I finalized early (NOTE: Etizolam did not request me to finalize early) since the transaction wasn't large and I'm a new face. I wanted there to be no suspicion that I intended to scam them. The fact that it IS marked in transit is actually what is worrying me. If they hadn't the ability to ship it, that's fine I can understand. What I CAN'T understand is why you would mark a shipment in transit after you explicitly claimed you halted such a practice in your profile.
The funny thing is the reason they gave for marking unshipped items shipped in their profile was that the late shipment messages from SR got annoying. You know you have an issue with shipping speed if you are starting to be annoyed by messages reminding you to hold your part of the bargain.
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So my experience...
I ordered up 2c-P, 2c-I, and DOC. All small amounts, just testing the chems. I throughly read through his page, forums, etc and made and INFORMED decision that I could wait his slow time. So I waited..and waited..and waited. And, 4 days in still its processing. Now, if I was a seller I would be on the ball in 24-48 hrs..not let the items sit for 4 days. So I send him a message..and I get a response to just 1 of the questions I asked. Why? Well Probably because I asked when he was going to ship, and that probably bothered him. I've been around SR since near infancy and I know how it all works here, so I'm not trying to bag on Etizolam but come on, at least an IDEA of when I can expect you to actually ship my shit? Is that so much to ask? Apparently.
I will add this though, at the time of my order my other friend who helps me fund our "buying adventures" might you call them, came back from his incarceration sentence and forgot that in his absence I was still ordering away...so he messaged Etizolam all about it and tried to divert the order to himself. Now I caught this right away as I check SR 5 times a day or more ( Like watching the seconds hand on a clock when your waiting for something) and let Etizolam know what was going on with it all and that all was well and to continue with the order. Instead of having any correspondence with me, he canceled my order after 4 or 5 days and left it at that. Now me? I can see myself doing something like that if I thought it was a sketch..so I see where he is coming from. But! after waiting for a shipped status that never came, a shitty correspondence with me, and canceling on me without a word, I can't say I would order from him personallay. Maybe some others have gotten lucky... Regardless, I would say if you can wait for him to get around to actually ship your order, and if you dont get "pesky" with him about shipping times, I'm sure you'll get it eventually.. Or maybe not.. On a side note, I got all my BTC back and found a WAY MORE legit seller for stuff, and it is working out quite dandy...so for those who are having bad luck, there are LOTS of good vendors to choose from.
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Yeah, I wouldn't pay for any special shipping service from him. I paid for Priority + DCN and of course I finalized early, thinking he probably needed the money to ship the item. It took 2+ weeks to get to me USA > USA and I never got refunded for the shipping method I purchased. He sent me quite a bit more of the product than I had ordered to make up for it, so he's not really a bad guy, but I wouldn't pay for special services.
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I gave him credit where credit was due. Obviously I am not the only one with the slow processing times. AND obviously after 4 days you would be asking "WTF is this guy doing?" too. I CLEARLY stated what was going on, and my account was no more nor less secure with a 2nd user. That particular user cant have contact with the outside world, and so the small mistake that it was, I informed him what was up. So yes, I AGREE 100% with what he did canceling, and I clearly said that too. ---->
Instead of having any correspondence with me, he canceled my order after 4 or 5 days and left it at that. Now me? I can see myself doing something like that if I thought it was a sketch..so I see where he is coming from. But! after waiting for a shipped status that never came, a shitty correspondence with me, and canceling on me without a word, I can't say I would order from him personallay. Maybe some others have gotten lucky... Regardless, I would say if you can wait for him to get around to actually ship your order, and if you dont get "pesky" with him about shipping times, I'm sure you'll get it eventually..
So, NO! Im not trolling, im giving Etizolam credit where credit is due and my OPINION of how he is running his operation and hopefully, a modest review that has both positive and negative in it can help others. And obviously so. This reason exactly is why Feedback is BULLSHIT. Cuz everyone is just "trolling"
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Yes, and after said 4 days I was thinking that, and inquired to when he would be shipping so I could be on the look out for said packrage in the mail. I even included the whole, I know its thanksgiving thing, because it is and I was trying to be reasonable and respectable. It was NOT less secure, there was an hour of confusion and in response to it I informed him all about it. He made the decision to cancel, and I AGREED. AND THEN, I told the 2nd user to make a 2nd account. The problem? We discovered this site together on 1 account, and when you have an established account with feedback its nice not to have to deal with all the new bull shit (I.E. Getting treated like a new buyer, when I've been with SR for 5 months).
The "doubletalk" you refer to, is more like unsure talk. How am I supposed to know how he is when he cancels on me, ignores me, etc? And the fact that you change my sentences to fit your shit talking makes me laugh. Learn to read everything else first before calling ME out because I wasn't the only one with problems and I WASN'T willing to SIT FOR 2 WEEKS FOR MY SHIT TO SHIP. Because I can go to another vendor who will answer my questions, and give me vague shipping dates. LIKE A RESPONSIBLE SELLER SHOULD!!
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It wasn't a thief...regardless of whether or not it ended up at his house and not mine, it would've ended up in my possession, we are friends. This was not a hacker. This is not the issue, it was merely a part of the story. You are making me out to be a horrible person, when I left what I intended to be a fair post. I was never angry with him, I understood why, I was just POSTING my experience for others to see as well. Which in SUMMARY: He is a slow communicator, very vague, and a slow processor. That is what my post said in 2 paragraphs.
The last part of your post makes no sense..and hooray for you. You called me out on re-stating my points "doubletalk" at 8am no sleep. Cool. Please go jump off a tall building. You annoy me. Or go pick on one of the 2 or 3 users who posted about there processing times.
P.S. I didn't put my account troubles on him, the entire first half of my post was entirely dedicated to my small complaint I had about him, and the 2nd paragraph was explaining the details AFTER I waited for 4 days.
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Irrelevant is a perfect way of describing it. It was never part of my complaint, it was part of the story..I didnt MEAN to be obnoxious, like I said the kid who also once had access was in lock up and didn't inform me he found a way to jump on SR. He thought he got hacked, and tried to make things right. Thats all..
In a sense I did add something, because it seems like some people have good luck with him and others don't. I was only adding my experience to those who were not so lucky. I never laid ANY blame on Etizolam for canceling. I've seen it all from the Vendors perspective from day 1, I've read so many posts with genuinely whiny people, and I dont feel like I am any where near as bad as some.. I can understand its a pain in the ass to get on, but I am not the only one who is responsible for the way things went. BUT, Yes I will learn from the experience, and I hoped that others would too, which was my intentions in posting. Not to wreck Etizolams rep, but to help...so sorry if I got all defensive and such, I felt like I was being attacked.
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I did receive a reply from Etizolam and it was NOT what I was expecting or wanting to hear. The messages are a bit long so the gist is here: they did not halt marking packages shipped when they weren't as they claimed they had, and they ALSO don't ship 3+ times a week as they claim in their profile. They told me they have not shipped a SR package in 8+ days. PM transcripts below.
My initial message to them:
"11/05/11 Just because I've marked your package as shipped doesn't mean it's shipped. i will stop doing this. The messages Silk Road automatically sends you for late orders get annoying though."
I'm curious as to if you still engage in this practice or what is going on. Bought on the 12th, supposedly shipped on the 14th and no trace yet. Have sent multiple packages out in the last week including one from coast to coast that arrived in only 5 days even with the slow ground freight option. I'm not asking "when is my order going to ship" or "when is it going to get here." I'm wondering if it had been actually shipped, and if so when? Is there some sort of DCN for the shipment?
At this point I'm kicking myself for finalizing early, I just wanted to try and relieve some of the doubt on your part dealing with new buyers. On the bright side, if you did selectively scam me at least I'm only out the small amount of money spent on the test purchase.
Due to the strongly worded and all caps "DO NOT WASTE MY TIME ASKING ME WHEN YOUR ORDER WILL SHIP. THE SITE WILL TELL YOU ONCE IT'S IN TRANSIT. NO PREDICTIONS OR GUARANTEES WILL BE MADE FOR SHIPPING TIME SO DON'T ASK. IF YOU ARE TOO IMPATIENT FOR THIS PROCESS GO AWAY NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." I am not expecting you to reply to me, so I've attempted to get feedback on the forums in the meantime.
Their first reply:
No I haven't shipped yours; I hadn't finished that poor practice just yet. I haven't been to the post office anonymously for Silk Road customers in 8+ days due to more pressing matters for trusted customers. Yours is literally next to be dropped off at USPS, but I haven't been. Yesterday I wasted time going to Western Union instead of the post office and their computer was down, completely wasting the bit of time I had before everything closed.
My very frustrated reply:
I hope you can see how this constitutes as flat out lying to customers. If you still continue a bad practice don't announce to everyone that you have halted it. This message saying you halted that practice was one of the only reasons I chose you for the test order. "More pressing matters for trusted customers" - It's never good business to let someone know your business is not pressing to them and that they are not trusted (not sure how much more trust I can display finalizing early without a request).
I'm just curious as to if you treat all small orders this way, and if so why? Do you not realize that my small order was a precursor test order to a large one? Had this been handled like a professional, you would have had a much larger order coming your way in a matter of days within receiving product.
I'll let the other people in the forum asking about your shipping (there were so many complaining I didn't even need to start the thread, it already existed) know that you haven't shipped in over 8+ days, which is another lie compared to the 3 times a week you state in your profile. You lied about halting marking shipments in transit before you even shipped them, and you've certainly lied about how often you ship.
How in the World are you going to rectify this situation, or is my small order too disposable for you to care if it is completed or not or whether I'm satisfied at all? You claim mine is literally the next to be dropped off, why should I not assume that is another lie in the sea of many? If time really is money, what compensation do I have to show for the 11 DAYS you sat on my package after marking shipped and had done nothing with it, not even sent a message saying there had been a delay.
If you are going to rudely tell people in your profile not to ask about shipping, you should damn well think about keeping them updated when you fuck up like this. From the forum posts, you have fucked up like this multiple times.
TL;DR: When somebody fucks up, they usually make things right. How do you intend to make this right?
Did I handle things very well? Not really, but it's kind of hard to practice decorum when somebody has lied to you at every turn and exhibits no sign of letting up any time soon. I hope this will explain to some people waiting on orders from Etizolam currently why they haven't received them. More importantly, I hope that this helps people in the future avoid the web of lies. Remember next time they've said they finally DID stop marking unshipped items in transit, that the last time they've made such a statement they personally admitted they were lying.
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If he said he wouldn't mark an unshipped package as shipped, then that is a fair complaint. He did not say that he would ship packages every 3 days though. He said he would ship them every 3-7 days, and 8 days is only 1 day over. That could have been a valid complaint, but you decided to call him a liar for not shipping it by day 3, which was actually pretty dishonest of you. That's my $0.02
You cherry pick what people say to conform with what you want them to mean don't you? I didn't call them a liar for not shipping by day 3, just that if you state you ship 3 times a week (even a week at the latest since they claim orders "INFREQUENTLY" (their term, not mine) take up to 7 days ) and then don't ship for 11 days, you lied.
Also, look at my numbers again. I didn't wait only 8 days when I said they lied about shipping practices, I had waited 11. Even the most inexperienced user of arithmetic can conclude that 11 days is much longer than an "infrequent" wait of up to a week.
You think I'm out of line calling somebody a liar when they can't even hit their own upper limit for time between shipments? When is it appropriate to claim someone lied about their shipping speed, when it reaches a full 14 days (or twice the UPPER LIMIT given for shipping times)?
Also note that none of this would have at all been an issue had they been honest and told me, "Hey, not going to be able to post your package because of X and Y, I'll let you know when it has shipped." Marking something shipped and then sitting on it for at least 11 days without at all communicating a delay is the epitome of dishonesty to me. Add insult to injury and place an excerpt in your profile telling people not to PM you, knowing they will have no choice seeing as the seller lacks any communications skills of a good business person.
An example: I sell a bulky and awkward item on ebay. I have an advertised handling time of 1 day, but a problem arises with finding a box that will work for the awkward package. At this point I could ship the package in an unfitting box and risk damage, or wait until I can acquire the proper box. Once I choose option 2, I now have two more options. I can send the buyer a message letting them know the situation and why the handling time I quoted them will take longer, apologizing and making sure to keep them posted on updates. Or, I can do what a bad seller would do, what Etizolam has done, and choose to sit on the package as long as I need to, tell the buyer it has been shipped when it hasn't and tell them nothing of delays or when to expect resolution.
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My experience with etizolam: took about 3 weeks to get my order, when I messaged him about 10 days after my order (which was put 'in transit' after 1 or 2 days) to ask about it, he said he hadn't shipped my order because he was waiting on a product to be in stock... a product I didn't order ::) So I corrected him and waited. I was in no rush, so it wasn't a huge deal, but it's pretty clear that this seller could really use some work on processing time and communication. Personally I'm not going to give more of my business to a vendor whose made it clear that it isn't valued.
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My experience with etizolam: took about 3 weeks to get my order, when I messaged him about 10 days after my order (which was put 'in transit' after 1 or 2 days) to ask about it, he said he hadn't shipped my order because he was waiting on a product to be in stock... a product I didn't order ::) So I corrected him and waited. I was in no rush, so it wasn't a huge deal, but it's pretty clear that this seller could really use some work on processing time and communication. Personally I'm not going to give more of my business to a vendor whose made it clear that it isn't valued.
My experience thus far is similar to yours.
I agree with you that late shipping is a problem. Also that I missed the 11 days thing (it said 8 at the top of the post), but I still disagree on how you are interpreting what it says on his profile.
You claimed above that he says he ships 3+ times a week. He really ships 3- times a week. 3 or less. He also doesn't say that he infrequently does it once a week. He says that he ships infrequently AS once a week. Another way of putting that is that his frequency of shipping is frequently once a week. Not very readable, but we get both uses of frequency in there. Just a misreading of his shipping policy I guess.
It seems pretty clear to me that he is a slow shipper, and 11 days is too much if 7 is the upper limit he specified. Even 8 would have been too long.
Perhaps I was hinging too much on the 3+ thing, it was mostly for demonstration of a hyperbole of a lower limit. The 7 day upper limit was understood as a worst case scenario. Even 11 days would have been fine with one iota of communication without me having to inquire about a supposedly marked shipment. An inquiry, I actually made in the profile of Etizolam. They claimed they no longer marked as shipped unless it was truly, and they also asked to not ask when your package would arrive. I followed both and figured in transit would put me in the "don't ask when it will arrive" category. After the upper limit and a few, I got curious. With no word from the seller that they had a delay, I had no reason to assume any foul play at the time. My only suspicions of false in transit was from knowledge of shipping estimates based on personal experience with many domestic carriers. I've never seen 11 days even during the blackout this past January so I'd smelled something fishy.
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2 days since the last message I sent and still no reply. This brings it to a total of 13 days of processing, while the shipment was marked shipped before it actually was. Yes that was not typo, I have been waiting 13 days since the item was marked shipped (it hasn't been shipped) and about 16 days since my order was placed.
How can ANYONE justify a processing time of 16 days, 13 of which passed while you falsely claimed the package was in the mail? Etizolam is not making any effort to right this situation, and has not contacted me at all regarding any delay or such without me inquiring first. My last message was inquiring how they intended to rectify the situation but this has gone 2 days now with no response.
Whatever you do, don't order from this joker until they can get their shit together. My speculation is they are a middle man and are selling more product than they have access to, leaving customers out in the cold with a package that is "shipped." While the bogus in transit gives them enough time to acquire a bit more product, they avoid any communication with the buyer lest they be tipped off to the scam.
It would actually be faster to literally walk to Etizolam's location to retrieve the package myself (assuming they even have what they are selling) than to wait around for Etizolam to decide they will actually ship something they told you they shipped 2 weeks ago.
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Here's my take on it. Etizolam is super fucking slow. Slow as hell, and hard to get a hold of. He marks stuff as sent, when he hasn't sent it, and it's going to take a loooooong while for it to reach you.
But he doubles orders and he seems like a nice guy. He's got the best prices for RCs on SR so I give him cred for that.
Only buy if you have a month to burn.
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Here's my take on it. Etizolam is super fucking slow. Slow as hell, and hard to get a hold of. He marks stuff as sent, when he hasn't sent it, and it's going to take a loooooong while for it to reach you.
But he doubles orders and he seems like a nice guy. He's got the best prices for RCs on SR so I give him cred for that.
Only buy if you have a month to burn.
Agree with most of that. Here's my updated experience:
I ordered 60mg 2c-e and 20mg 2c-p. Package was marked as sent after 3 days or so, but was actually not sent for about two and a half weeks after purchase. No seller communication of the delay whatsoever. When I actually got my package it was not what I had ordered. The 2c-p came in 20% overweight at 24mg, but the 60mg 2c-e was not there. Instead, I had been sent 42mg of 2c-i. I was bummed, but decided not to request any reship, as 2c-i would have to do and I didn't want any more headaches.
Literally, order a month ahead and don't expect a reply. When in a bind seller will apparently send out other RCs that they have in stock as replacement without notifying the buyer. Either that or they just really are careless with shipping orders.
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This is on his page today.
<12/05/2011 -
There are 71 people ahead of you in line on Silk Road; and 12 people ahead of you who ordered elsewhere. There's one order that's been marked as shipped for a couple weeks that hasn't shipped yet and is going out tomorrow.
Please, I beg of you, stop wasting my time PMing me about how long things are going to take. As far as I'm concerned, you are a law enforcement officer, so I'm not going to give you any clues as to how or when the shipment is going to arrive.>
Let's see, 184 completed transactions in two months averages about three a day. Must be absolutely in the weeds here on SR. And WTF is up with the attitude? If you do not want people asking when they are going to get their stuff, send it in a timely fashion.
I tried ordering from this guy twice. Both times I waited 7 days and then canceled. IMO if you can't ship in 7 days you probably shouldn't be in the business of shipping stuff. Either that or get some help ffs.
Rant over.
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I ordered a simple 2c research chemical from this guy, maybe 30mg, and I let the order sit at processing for TWENTY DAYS before I canceled it. Not sure how the hell he had a 100 rating. I don't understand how difficult it could be to put 30mg of 2c-x in a bag, then put the bag in an envelope, then put the addressed envelope in the mail. I don't see how that takes over 20 days. That's my 2 cents.
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My theory is they would have shipped it if they had it. It's pretty clear they've been selling more than they have on hand or have access to. My order wasn't filled, I waited about 3 weeks and when I did receive my order apparently Etizolam had no 2c-e because they replaced the 2c-e I ordered with 2c-i without consulting me. Either a really dick seller move or incredible carelessness that could get somebody hurt if the same carelessness went in to labeling doses. If they "accidentally" sent the wrong RC can you imagine what would happen if they "accidentally" labeled a large quantity of 2c-p as Methylone or something?
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I agree with Sal.
During the time that I was waiting on my order, he kept updating his page saying "I'm 50 orders behind" but then in the same sentence saying "But all orders have been shipped" which doesn't make any sense. I sent him 1 polite message after the order had gone to resolution center & extending the due date, and it still took him days to reply with a message that I honestly don't think was written personally to me. It was written as if he wrote 1 message and sent it out to alot of people, because it was very non-specific & didn't answer my question, he just told me he was backed up like his page already said.
I think he's got loads and loads of drugs listed on SR that he isn't in possession of.
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I ordered paraphernalia from Etizolam
ordered: December 3, 2011, 2:38 pm UTC
shipped: December 5, 2011, 12:14 pm UTC
received: December 8th, 2011
Packaging was fine, object was as described. It was a good buy.
Peace
KB
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http://memegenerator.net/instance/12016155
Just sayin'.
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http://memegenerator.net/instance/12016155
Just sayin'.
I love whoever made that.
I feel sorry for them if they started out too fast and got fucked all on backlogs, but you have to deal with that.
I used to accidentally get a queue of orders for specific fenced goods; but instead of sitting on my ass I made sure the ordering system was temporarily suspended from accepting new orders, and I immediately acquired enough of the product to fulfill my backlog. Only then did I accept new orders, you know?
Know your limits or hire a friend. Or at least toss a PM to a buyer, communication can diffuse a rage bomb.
Etizolam has potential to be a good seller with good wares, but then again SumYunGai used to be amongst the elite sellers so anything is possible. Risks, always these tiny little risks. Still less risky than meeting up in parking lots with drug addicts and shit, though.
A few vendors around SR I think I'd trust enough to let babysit for me, at twice the rate I give that little bitch Sheena. Though shipping could be a concern; I've only ever tried to conceal a child once and it was at a drive-in movie.
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http://memegenerator.net/instance/12016155
Just sayin'.
I love whoever made that.
I feel sorry for them if they started out too fast and got fucked all on backlogs, but you have to deal with that.
I used to accidentally get a queue of orders for specific fenced goods; but instead of sitting on my ass I made sure the ordering system was temporarily suspended from accepting new orders, and I immediately acquired enough of the product to fulfill my backlog. Only then did I accept new orders, you know?
Know your limits or hire a friend. Or at least toss a PM to a buyer, communication can diffuse a rage bomb.
Etizolam has potential to be a good seller with good wares, but then again SumYunGai used to be amongst the elite sellers so anything is possible. Risks, always these tiny little risks. Still less risky than meeting up in parking lots with drug addicts and shit, though.
A few vendors around SR I think I'd trust enough to let babysit for me, at twice the rate I give that little bitch Sheena. Though shipping could be a concern; I've only ever tried to conceal a child once and it was at a drive-in movie.
Thanks. =]
After I ordered, I waited around for about a week or so for him to ship it and it didn't happen. I ended up just cancelling the order. I was afraid/discouraged from PM'ing him due to his caps-locked message on his user page. I wish he came threw, he offers a great deal on his products.
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When I ordered 2 items from Etizolam, it took a little longer for it to be shipped rather than the shipping time, and I only paid shipping for the full order, not for each item. If I were you, I would wait for the order to ship no matter how long it takes, the product is great! I don't recall if it was First Class or not. I just bought from them again due to a great product last time!
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So I'd just like to weigh in here a little bit....
Does etizolam take quite a bit longer to ship out his product then other sellers? Yes, honestly.
HOWEVER, is etizolam's shipping the single most discreet shipping and is the product always exactly what you want? YES.
In the south east US, it took ~ 2 1/2 weeks from when the order was "en route" to when it arrived at my house. However, he threw in a little bit extra for the wait, and there's no way my parents/room mates/anyone ever would begin to get suspicious about the packaging. It was, honestly, absolutely genius.
I don't think etizolam is trying to make a full time commitment out of this "job", and honestly, the man DOES have a personal and/or other professional life that he DOES have to abide by and keep up to date with...also, he is probably the single most reasonable vendor, as well as the ONLY vendor on SR (that I've seen) who has such a large library of 2C-x compounds. As such, I'm sure he is constantly swamped with orders, and because of these facts I really honestly don't blame him for taking as long as he does.
In the end, in my experience I can honestly say the wait is well worth the reward. If you're in an absolute rush and need the produce in a week, then you should know that etizolam might not be your best choice to do business with. However, if (like me) you're just happy to have the god-given opportunity to be able to try so many different compounds, then etizolam is the single best bet you've got.
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So I'd just like to weigh in here a little bit....
Does etizolam take quite a bit longer to ship out his product then other sellers? Yes, honestly.
HOWEVER, is etizolam's shipping the single most discreet shipping and is the product always exactly what you want? YES.
In the south east US, it took ~ 2 1/2 weeks from when the order was "en route" to when it arrived at my house. However, he threw in a little bit extra for the wait, and there's no way my parents/room mates/anyone ever would begin to get suspicious about the packaging. It was, honestly, absolutely genius.
I don't think etizolam is trying to make a full time commitment out of this "job", and honestly, the man DOES have a personal and/or other professional life that he DOES have to abide by and keep up to date with...also, he is probably the single most reasonable vendor, as well as the ONLY vendor on SR (that I've seen) who has such a large library of 2C-x compounds. As such, I'm sure he is constantly swamped with orders, and because of these facts I really honestly don't blame him for taking as long as he does.
In the end, in my experience I can honestly say the wait is well worth the reward. If you're in an absolute rush and need the produce in a week, then you should know that etizolam might not be your best choice to do business with. However, if (like me) you're just happy to have the god-given opportunity to be able to try so many different compounds, then etizolam is the single best bet you've got.
I could deal with all of the delays and such, what I will never accept from a vendor is a total lack of communication. If it is going to take you 2 and a half weeks to ship to me, send me a message saying that and don't mark the product in transit when it clearly isn't; especially when your profile clearly states that you stopped marking non-shipped items shipped, that qualifies as a lie plain and simple.
The packaging was ok, but definitely not as elaborate or well done as some of the other packaging I've seen (PuffBuddy has the best imo). Packaging was a non-issue for my transaction, mostly.
It's not as if when I finally got my order it was even correct. Half of what I ordered was correct but the 60mg 2c-e was replaced with 42mg 2c-i without my approval. Not even a message saying, "Hey I was out of 2c-e, want some 2c-i instead?" What I got was a package shipped with the decision made for me that I would be getting 2c-i whether or not I wanted it.
Imagine if instead of simply sending a labeled but incorrect item to a buyer, they incorrectly label an item they send? Some 2c-p mislabeled MXE could easily land you in the ER with the vast dosage differentials between the two RCs. There is a certain OG poster around here that I believe has told a story about taking an accidental heroic dose of a 2c in a similar manner.
I will add, I would LOVE to be able to do future business with Etizolam because they have some good prices and a nice selection. However, you can only have so many strikes against you during a transaction before you are discarded from the list of future vendors. You can get most of the 2c family elsewhere on SR anyway, and at a 3 week turnaround time per order you may be better off synthesizing it yourself.
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I'v ordered a couple times form Etizolam and I can say they've both been positive transactions. Shipped securely and timely and even got a free sample with one order :D For those saying he's been real slow, the seller page explains that he's been behind for some legitimate personal stuff.
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Etiz now requiring scans of mail to verify address before shipping to first time buyers?
sketchy or not sketchy?