brodie - I can't be bothered to read that whole post, I have a shit storm to deal with now but I got the idea of your post. Vendors own their business, if you don't like their terms, just like in the real world, you don't have to buy from them and vendors are well aware they lose business when they ask people to FE too, that is the tradeoff they make for security. And yes, a lot of people are "scammed", how many of these are actually scams would probably significantly cut down that number because buyers try to use their power of rating a vendor to coerce them and come to the forum to flare it up hoping the vendor will give in and send them their money back, I've seen it a lot and had people attempt it with me. Also, if there have been a few scams recently, think of how many packages are being sent out every day, my guess is over 5,000 or even 10,000 per day.