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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: putinwork62 on June 18, 2013, 11:56 pm
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What is the easiest drug to grow or make yourself other than cannabis ? This is something i have been wondering for a while, What do you guys think ?
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Depends what kind of chemical access you have. Mushrooms I've heard aren't too difficult but I don't have experience in that. The amphetamine classes are generally quite easy, as is DMT.
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GHB, amphetamines and DMT are all relatively easy:
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/ghb.html (look at the sodium GHB)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/29100750/Amphetamine-Sulphate-Synthesis
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/extraction_guide1/dmt_extraction_guide1.shtml
Thanks i will definitely check out those links and read about dmt extraction more...
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Depends what kind of chemical access you have. Mushrooms I've heard aren't too difficult but I don't have experience in that. The amphetamine classes are generally quite easy, as is DMT.
Mushrooms was one of them i had in mind...
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Psilocybe. Easier than cannabis and yields within a month's time. Happy growing, friend.
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Grow salvia or poppies...
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You could go for a run, and enjoy your natural endorphine high.
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Psilocybe. Easier than cannabis and yields within a month's time. Happy growing, friend.
Cool, i think i'm really about to start growing mushrooms, i just need to learn how to grow them.... Do you know of any sites ? Also is it safe to grow mushrooms indoors? also can you even grow them indoors?
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Grow salvia or poppies...
Never thought about that, i had forgot all about salvia. Thanks for the idea.
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Aside from shrooms, salvia and poppies, Morning Glories for LSA (Lysergic Acid Amide) probably easy.
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DMT the easiest I've come across. Takes a little over 30 minutes work and about 4 days of waiting to extract.
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Weed, mushrooms and poppies are all easy.
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DMT is extremely easy
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DMT is extremely easy
Importing the plant material like MHRB sucks though. They've been busting people and charging them for it for awhile now.
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i was gonna mention poppies like the guys above. i knew where a garden full of poppies was, last time i passed there the owner of the garden was nearly in tears as there was only stalks left - some cunt had come in during the night and nicked all of them
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GHB, amphetamines and DMT are all relatively easy:
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/ghb.html (look at the sodium GHB)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/29100750/Amphetamine-Sulphate-Synthesis
http://www.viewdocsonline.com/document/du0crt (Amphetamine)
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/extraction_guide1/dmt_extraction_guide1.shtml
Interesting post my friend thanks
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Surprised nobody has mentioned mescaline. You can really make it as easy as you like, but with less extraction comes more ingestion of raw cacti.
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DMT is extremely easy
Importing the plant material like MHRB sucks though. They've been busting people and charging them for it for awhile now.
Ordered twice from *CLEARNET*Gaiana.nl*CLEARNET* and first time it was to my house and I had to sign for it and thought it was a CD for a second, then I remembered it was just MHRB. Got my last kilo sent to a drop.
If I remember correctly though, MHRB is illegal because of some law that states anything that contains N,N-DMT in it is illegal, but the loophole was that just about ALL plants contain it. Not sure if this is just a myth or not.
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Smack from morphine only takes about 20 minutes. Not many steps in the process and pretty cheap to make. Then a 16 step process to convert codeine over.
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Mushrooms are your best bet. Way easier than weed (I've grown both) and can be close to as profitable if you can move large amounts. Start with PF tek and move on to casings. Make your own pf jars, dont buy them from a vendor or your profit margin will go way down. At most you will need a couple hundred bucks for tubs, spores, jars and other supplies. If you are going to do it long term or for profit then drop a couple hundred on a good pressure cooker, it will save you a lot of wasted materials by cutting down on contaminated jars. Use sporeworks and spores101 for your spores. Penis envy is a good "cash crop" strain, big fruits and people have a good time on them. For info on how to grow use shroomery.org and shroomtalk. A month of incubating your jars and you will have fruits a week after birthing your cakes into the fruiting chamber. Use the dunk and roll technique to get multiple flushes from every cake. Good luck, it is great fun. It's magical to see the little pins come off the cake during fruiting for the first time knowing those little things will turn into big, healthy mushrooms. Fresh air is a must so you will probably want to grow where you live or where you can hang out every day for a while.
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I agree with the poster two above.. San Pedro Cactus is really easy.. I grew a fair size one. My wife and I made a tea out of it and got pretty fucked up.
Think I paid 2 bucks for it
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Poppies (and from these Laudanum or Opium tea or similar), DMT and Shrooms are extremely easy to grow/extract by yourself.
Also nightshades are extremely easy to grow but you must be wary about them. The best way is to use them as an ointment (the famous witches salve) that is composed by belladonna/henbane/datura + guess what? the aforementioned poppies (it is scopolamine + morphine etc. that cause the effect; in an ointment tropanes are much less toxic because atropine and the other very toxic components in there don't pass the fat barrier, plus morphine removes the anxiety effect and increase the dream/visionary aspect).
EDIT: Yes, also San Pedro is very easy to grow, but I personally don't find it to my taste. I prefer much more an Ayahusca, DMT, or either a Shrooms trip than a Sand Pedro one; but naturally this is a thing having to do with what you have to do and personal tastes.
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Importing the plant material like MHRB sucks though. They've been busting people and charging them for it for awhile now.
Depends where you are. Where I live there are not problems (yet) on importing MHRB. Then for DMT you can also go on Acacia or similar other plants, you will just have to do a defat with an acid before, not so much of a trouble, if importing MHRB is a big problem in your country.
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Importing the plant material like MHRB sucks though. They've been busting people and charging them for it for awhile now.
Depends where you are. Where I live there are not problems (yet) on importing MHRB. Then for DMT you can also go on Acacia or similar other plants, you will just have to do a defat with an acid before, not so much of a trouble, if importing MHRB is a big problem in your country.
True. I was talking about in the US and specifically MHRB. Just google it on clearnet to see numerous cases of people in America being arrested for importing amounts as small as a kilogram.
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Shrooms, for sure.
1. Spore print/syringe (legal in the U.S.)
2. Pressure cooker or microwave
3. Mason jars
4. Vermiculite + BRF
5. Perlite
6. Patience and cleanlines
7. 30-45 days
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How about DMT from phalaris grass. You can get everything you need from home depot.
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Are poppies grown globally? I thought I had read somewhere about a year ago, that poppies only grow under certain altitudes or something of that sort
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Are poppies grown globally? I thought I had read somewhere about a year ago, that poppies only grow under certain altitudes or something of that sort
Poppies are grown in many places :)
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IMO it's the pyschedellics that are the most perspective inducing. With that being said, I think LSD and DMT have the greatest of these effects.
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Are poppies grown globally? I thought I had read somewhere about a year ago, that poppies only grow under certain altitudes or something of that sort
Nope. Poppies grows almost everywhere. They are considered a weed for how easy they are to grow. They just need sun and not too cold climates, that's it.
Only some kind of oriental poppies can be a litte difficult to raise (the perennial sorts), the rest are extremely easy and they self propagate (and if you have good alkaline soil they do so at an amount it's almost difficult to keep up; you will really have to take an eye elsewhere they will expand too much - considering naturally you are in an open field).
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How about DMT from phalaris grass. You can get everything you need from home depot.
Phalaris grass it is easily obtainable, yes, but the problem is that it has one of the lowest yields of all widely known plants containing DMT and it needs a strong defat.
Moreover in all the reports I've look upon about DMT that was extracted from Phalaris they seemed like much more akin to a 5-MeO-DMT than a pure N-N-DMT one (as in more body load, less visuals/less colors etc. etc.) as if like the DMT obtained is a mix of N-N and 5-Meo. Naturally it can just be coincidence or the report being done by an user with a faulty extraction or similar things, but it is a somewhat strange thing nonetheless. You can see the same in the book Psychedelics Shamanism by DeKorne in the section where he talks about DMT extraction from Phalaris; read the trip reports in there, they seem much more akin to a 5-Meo trip than a pure N-N one.
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Totally misread question, although dmt still falls in the answer. Pot, shrooms, k2 spice is extremely easy to make.
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Are poppies grown globally? I thought I had read somewhere about a year ago, that poppies only grow under certain altitudes or something of that sort
Nope. Poppies grows almost everywhere. They are considered a weed for how easy they are to grow. They just need sun and not too cold climates, that's it.
Only some kind of oriental poppies can be a litte difficult to raise (the perennial sorts), the rest are extremely easy and they self propagate (and if you have good alkaline soil they do so at an amount it's almost difficult to keep up; you will really have to take an eye elsewhere they will expand too much - considering naturally you are in an open field).
Thank you, quite informative.
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+1 to black iris, really good point about phalaris extractions.
Not to mention phalaris contains gramine which is toxic in large doses.
That being said a crude extract is very simple although not near as clean as other DMT extractions.
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>Shrooms. Definately, 'shrooms.
If you order the spore syringe right now and go buy some 1/2 pint wide-mouth jars, organic brown rice and vermiculite, you could be eatin' fresh 'shrooms in 6-8 weeks. Rinse and repeat.
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Well, time to order a spore print after reading this thread heh.
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Mescaline is a few steps easier then DMT 8). Also, poppies grow like weeds, and their tea is divine.
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Thanks for the info everybody i really appreciate the help and advice....