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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Razorspyne on June 18, 2013, 07:46 pm
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Why did Libertas delete Jack's thread?
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Don't start this again RazorSpyne, those other threads you've/contributed in so far have just been a total shitpot of useless posts throwing allegations around. If Libertas wants to delete something, as an admin that is well within their right, let DPR handle it if you disagree with them.
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Don't start this again RazorSpyne, those other threads you've/contributed in so far have just been a total shitpot of useless posts throwing allegations around. If Libertas wants to delete something, as an admin that is well within their right, let DPR handle it if you disagree with them.
StExo, I don't know who you think you are, but you're no one important on the forums, stop trolling and talking about issues you have no clue about.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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StExo, I don't know who you think you are, but you're no one important on the forums, stop trolling and talking about issues you have no clue about.
I'm somebody who is pointing out the obvious, I am not trolling. I know that this is DPR & Co's forum and marketplace and certainly not yours or mine so making this topic again despite the fact you're the one in the minority of opinions is certainly another step of trying to cause some kind of trouble. If you were that bothered, you would message DPR as she actually responds to you if it is something serious. As no action is taken, I assume your complaints aren't being upheld so I just go along and stop caring for something I can't change.
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Funny how the idiots always manage to find my threads, it's aggravating there isn't more intelligence to respond to. Why is it that the trolls respond more than any other type of poster? If you have something to contribute then contribute, but if you're just stirring up dirt, which you obviously are StExo, piss off because we're beginning to get a little sick and tired of your 007 stories here on the forums and muckraking.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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Why did Libertas delete Jack's thread?
Don't start this again RazorSpyne, those other threads you've/contributed in so far have just been a total shitpot of useless posts throwing allegations around. If Libertas wants to delete something, as an admin that is well within their right, let DPR handle it if you disagree with them.
The only posts moderators were going to lock or delete were threads pertaining to CP or threads/posts pertaining to DOXing, Jack N Hoff's moderator thread was clearly nothing to do with either, and Raz has every right to address this. I agree with Raz, why was this thread deleted? It used to be the case that the moderator who was responsible for locking a thread used to give a reason as to why the decision was made, as Jack N Hoff's moderator thread was deleted without reason there seems to be no reason to the reasoning.
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Scout, wherever you may be now, I hope you find me again. Cheers my friend.
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Funny how the idiots always manage to find my threads, it's aggravating there isn't more intelligence to respond to. Why is it that the trolls respond more than any other type of poster? If you have something to contribute then contribute, but if you're just stirring up dirt, which you obviously are StExo, piss off because we're beginning to get a little sick and tired of your 007 stories here on the forums and muckraking.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Funny how you can label me as an idiot yet propose Libertas deleted the thread despite the fact the account was active at the time of deletion. That's why I called you out on this and didn't comment in the other thread because it was all subjective, this is pretty clear you didn't even check. Maybe Libertas has powers to not even appear active, but I have my doubts about that because why would he need them?
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The only posts moderators were going to lock or delete were threads pertaining to CP or threads/posts pertaining to DOXing, Jack N Hoff's moderator thread was clearly nothing to do with either, and Raz has every right to address this. I agree with Raz, why was this thread deleted? It used to be the case that the moderator who was responsible for locking a thread used to give a reason as to why the decision was made, as Jack N Hoff's moderator thread was deleted without reason there seems to be no reason to the reasoning.
I have no problems on the issue it was deleted without reason, but as per my previous post, Libertas isn't even online which is why I believe Raz hasn't blinked an eyelid to blame Lib and hasn't even got any proof unless he has some sort of log access. The other post I am not getting involved in for the reason that it doesn't concern me and it's wholly subjective, but the sudden accusation I find is just becoming a personal attack against Lib who I have great respect for.
Edit: To clarify, my comment on no problem with it being deleted means I am not arguing the fact it was suddenly deleted without reason, not whether I agree/disagree it was right.
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Not to contribute to the conspiracy/paranoia that is sure to come from this but I assume it was deleted because of parallax whose account and posts have now been deleted entirely.
I'm not saying we're owed an explanation or anything from the admins, but it does seem odd. Particularly considering the subject matter at the end of the thread.
No it wasn't deleted b/c of parrallax. He was not the OP. What the fuck? Parallax deleted? DPR needs to be informed, this shit has gone way too far. Every time I make a post it is locked or deleted. And I have a solid reputation as well, I am not a troll and have never trolled.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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No new mods will be added for the time being.
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No new mods will be added for the time being.
DPR HAS SPOKEN!
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St Exo, piss off mate, I never made any personal attack on anyone, you did when you came on my thread and trolled. Kindly fuck off as you don't know anything about this matter and are doing this in order to get attention. I am trying to find out what the fuck is going on here and how to proceed. Or to who.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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No new mods will be added for the time being.
Good decision. Trust and security should be paramount and trump all else. Weakest link in the security infrastructure of any org or system is the human element.
History has proven this time and time again.
my 2 cents, FWIW.
KM
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I deleted my previous posts in this thread at the request of someone who has this communities best interests at heart.
Let me state for the record though that I do not like the way this whole issue is being handled. It goes against the principles I thought were important here and that this community was built on.
I've lost some respect for some people today and I'm sure none of them give a shit because who am I right?
I just had to say it anyway.
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One more time. I have a right to fucking make a fucking post without a fucking Libertas locking my fucking posts the second I post it. So I am reposting it.
***Raz smiles at the posts on the thread, entertainment has never been this cheap in his town***
Lol. Silk Road forums doesn’t need more mods, it needs a re-assessment done by one person -- you know, the Pirate -- on the current effectiveness of the present ones, and new categories for members. This has been coming for a long time. Silk Road can’t continue like this indefinitely. No one who loves to name drop should ever become a mod. I have seen so much bullshitting here recently with certain members swapping wives’ tales I’m surprised we don’t have to go out and actually recruit from MIT or somewhere more mainstream to find someone who knows A) how to work productively, and B) how to keep their mouth shut. Someone wanting to be a mod for the glory of Rome should be the last person to be selected for the position -- lol, did I actually just say that word? -- even if their heart is in the right place. This forum already has seen way too many gossipers and shit-talkers given the mantle of moderator untested. We have seen how people with that set of skills handle it. If someone is drawing a [edit.] from DPR then they should pull their finger out and actually do the work instead of strutting around and preening over the fact that they have blue squares next to their name.
Along with PrincessHIGH, I believe new categories would go some of the way to fixing this. I believe that the SR Geek membership should be utilised, not just the SR Vendor membership, though the name should change to something like ‘Tech Support’ or something, and SR forums augment the already widely adapted SMF Friends category for people who consistently deliver top notch, senior drug support and/or SR forums support and can fulfil the role of Guidebots. This would take strain off the moderators and in turn reduce hours required to ‘moderate’. The spin-off from this is that new moderators could be screened, tested, acclimatised to the job, and eventually have the opportunity to become mods themselves. In order to do this however, DPR would have to go back to selecting mods, which IMAHO is how it should be done. Nothing garners support for a newly appointed moderator than the fact that they have been made mod by him personally as opposed to the recommendation of the previous mod, which is the way mods have been selected for a whole year now.
Thanks to Princess for her input, she is one of few who actually knows what she is talking about and doesn’t bullshit, also, thanks to Jack N Hoff for opening the debate. I don’t agree with everything the OP’s said, only 99%, but still that’s actually pretty good. I would like to agree with others who said that he is mod material, and disagree with others who said he wasn’t, he’s one of very few who has discipline in speech here on the forums, and doesn’t name-drop, and is here night and day answering not just questions confined to one sections, but EVERY section -- rather unnerving -- and is pretty much modding here anyway, but with no pay. Only problem is the multiple vending acc./ s and the impinging time required to do both. It’s impossible, it is not fiscally worth it.
This thread is one of the biggest can of worms opened all week. Nice one Jack. Hope it doesn’t get locked like every other thread around here. Still waiting to hear from other posters. I go by the “one good one is worth 20 bad ones” thing.
Piece, Love, Fuck Haters.
***Raz turns back to his chow mein***
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One more time. I have a right to fucking make a fucking post without a fucking Libertas locking my fucking posts the second I post it. So I am reposting it.
***Raz smiles at the posts on the thread, entertainment has never been this cheap in his town***
Lol. Silk Road forums doesn’t need more mods, it needs a re-assessment done by one person -- you know, the Pirate -- on the current effectiveness of the present ones, and new categories for members. This has been coming for a long time. Silk Road can’t continue like this indefinitely. No one who loves to name drop should ever become a mod. I have seen so much bullshitting here recently with certain members swapping wives’ tales I’m surprised we don’t have to go out and actually recruit from MIT or somewhere more mainstream to find someone who knows A) how to work productively, and B) how to keep their mouth shut. Someone wanting to be a mod for the glory of Rome should be the last person to be selected for the position -- lol, did I actually just say that word? -- even if their heart is in the right place. This forum already has seen way too many gossipers and shit-talkers given the mantle of moderator untested. We have seen how people with that set of skills handle it. If someone is drawing a [edit.] from DPR then they should pull their finger out and actually do the work instead of strutting around and preening over the fact that they have blue squares next to their name.
Along with PrincessHIGH, I believe new categories would go some of the way to fixing this. I believe that the SR Geek membership should be utilised, not just the SR Vendor membership, though the name should change to something like ‘Tech Support’ or something, and SR forums augment the already widely adapted SMF Friends category for people who consistently deliver top notch, senior drug support and/or SR forums support and can fulfil the role of Guidebots. This would take strain off the moderators and in turn reduce hours required to ‘moderate’. The spin-off from this is that new moderators could be screened, tested, acclimatised to the job, and eventually have the opportunity to become mods themselves. In order to do this however, DPR would have to go back to selecting mods, which IMAHO is how it should be done. Nothing garners support for a newly appointed moderator than the fact that they have been made mod by him personally as opposed to the recommendation of the previous mod, which is the way mods have been selected for a whole year now.
Thanks to Princess for her input, she is one of few who actually knows what she is talking about and doesn’t bullshit, also, thanks to Jack N Hoff for opening the debate. I don’t agree with everything the OP’s said, only 99%, but still that’s actually pretty good. I would like to agree with others who said that he is mod material, and disagree with others who said he wasn’t, he’s one of very few who has discipline in speech here on the forums, and doesn’t name-drop, and is here night and day answering not just questions confined to one sections, but EVERY section -- rather unnerving -- and is pretty much modding here anyway, but with no pay. Only problem is the multiple vending acc./ s and the impinging time required to do both. It’s impossible, it is not fiscally worth it.
This thread is one of the biggest can of worms opened all week. Nice one Jack. Hope it doesn’t get locked like every other thread around here. Still waiting to hear from other posters. I go by the “one good one is worth 20 bad ones” thing.
Piece, Love, Fuck Haters.
***Raz turns back to his chow mein***
I'm reposting as well.
In my honest opinion we only need one or two new 'Global Moderators' (blue squares) DPR needs to assign a team of specialised 'Local Moderators' (green squares) the only one I remember was 'DoctaFeelgood' when the 'Philosophy, Economics and Law' board came to be. The difference between 'Global Moderators' and 'Local Moderators' is the 'Local Moderators' are usually assigned to a specific discussion board rather than all of them, however they have the same function and permissions as the 'Global Moderators' for their particular board. Jack N Hoff would make a great 'Global Moderator' in my opinion as he has expansive general knowledge amongst all of the main boards, however there are some shining stars (without naming names, they know who they are) who would sparkle as 'Local Moderators' within 'SilkRoad Discussion', 'Security', 'Drug safety', 'Philosophy, Economics and Law', and 'Newbie discussion' boards. 'Local Moderators' would also be a great support to the 'Global Moderators' as they'll be specialised within their discussion board and will strengthen our commodity, please bring on the green squares! :)
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Let me state for the record though that I do not like the way this whole issue is being handled. It goes against the principles I thought were important here and that this community was built on.
I've lost some respect for some people today and I'm sure none of them give a shit because who am I right?
I just had to say it anyway.
+1! The amount of censorship and lack of communication on certain issues is appalling. The ideals of this place are much different from the reality of it.
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I need clarification on this thread. Does this thread need to be locked? Can you even understand why I might be pissed off when every post of mine gets the thread locked?
Only very few people can answer this. Not that they even need my permission anyway. I don't mind if my thread is locked, but deleted is just a bit fucking much at this point.
Raz
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I need clarification on this thread. Does this thread need to be locked? Can you even understand why I might be pissed off when every post of mine gets the thread locked?
Only very few people can answer this. Not that they even need my permission anyway. I don't mind if my thread is locked, but deleted is just a bit fucking much at this point.
Raz
Raz, I do see why you're annoyed at it, I would be too, but what I am trying to say is take it up with DPR because it wasn't Libertas that deleted your thread.
Edit: Yes I do agree with your point that it shouldn't be deleted like that just for the record.
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i kind of like the idea of local AND global mods
but who theyu are is first, i think a poll (among all hero members) would be a cool idea to see if its works out but i understand DPR has complete control over it.
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The only posts moderators were going to lock or delete were threads pertaining to CP or threads/posts pertaining to DOXing, Jack N Hoff's moderator thread was clearly nothing to do with either, and Raz has every right to address this. I agree with Raz, why was this thread deleted? It used to be the case that the moderator who was responsible for locking a thread used to give a reason as to why the decision was made, as Jack N Hoff's moderator thread was deleted without reason there seems to be no reason to the reasoning.
I have no problems on the issue it was deleted without reason, but as per my previous post, Libertas isn't even online which is why I believe Raz hasn't blinked an eyelid to blame Lib and hasn't even got any proof unless he has some sort of log access. The other post I am not getting involved in for the reason that it doesn't concern me and it's wholly subjective, but the sudden accusation I find is just becoming a personal attack against Lib who I have great respect for.
Edit: To clarify, my comment on no problem with it being deleted means I am not arguing the fact it was suddenly deleted without reason, not whether I agree/disagree it was right.
If you don't have an issue StExo that is your prerogative, however if you started a thread and it was mysteriously locked without reason wouldn't you want to know the reason? I believe most OP's would want to know why if this happened. I don't believe Raz was staging a personal attack on Libertas rather why Jack and Hoff's moderator thread is locked with no founded grounds.
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Fine. I was just peeved that so my post got deleted. I don't care about it anymore TBO.
Piece, Love, and Never Give in to Haters.
@ HEATFan: Lol, if that isn't a conspiracy theory I don't know what is. I don't respond to stupid comments.
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The thread was deleted because DPR is trying to conceal something. What he is trying to conceal we may never know but I wholeheartedly disagree with the way he is deciding to do it.
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Censorship isn't particularly libertarian.
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Along with PrincessHIGH, I believe new categories would go some of the way to fixing this. I believe that the SR Geek membership should be utilised, not just the SR Vendor membership, though the name should change to something like ‘Tech Support’ or something, and SR forums augment the already widely adapted SMF Friends category for people who consistently deliver top notch, senior drug support and/or SR forums support and can fulfil the role of Guidebots. This would take strain off the moderators and in turn reduce hours required to ‘moderate’. The spin-off from this is that new moderators could be screened, tested, acclimatised to the job, and eventually have the opportunity to become mods themselves. In order to do this however, DPR would have to go back to selecting mods, which IMAHO is how it should be done. Nothing garners support for a newly appointed moderator than the fact that they have been made mod by him personally as opposed to the recommendation of the previous mod, which is the way mods have been selected for a whole year now.
In my honest opinion we only need one or two new 'Global Moderators' (blue squares) DPR needs to assign a team of specialised 'Local Moderators' (green squares) the only one I remember was 'DoctaFeelgood' when the 'Philosophy, Economics and Law' board came to be. The difference between 'Global Moderators' and 'Local Moderators' is the 'Local Moderators' are usually assigned to a specific discussion board rather than all of them, however they have the same function and permissions as the 'Global Moderators' for their particular board. Jack N Hoff would make a great 'Global Moderator' in my opinion as he has expansive general knowledge amongst all of the main boards, however there are some shining stars (without naming names, they know who they are) who would sparkle as 'Local Moderators' within 'SilkRoad Discussion', 'Security', 'Drug safety', 'Philosophy, Economics and Law', and 'Newbie discussion' boards. 'Local Moderators' would also be a great support to the 'Global Moderators' as they'll be specialised within their discussion board and will strengthen our commodity, please bring on the green squares! :)
Sounds like a good idea to me :)
I actually thought princessHIGH was a moderator when i was new. i nominate prinny for green squares.
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we should make joolz a moderator. just kidding.
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I also want to know why my thread was deleted.
No new mods? I guess it's a lawless free for all around here.
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I nominate myself.
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I'm guessing it was because many people got all psyched up about who is going to become the new moderator when there wasn't going to be any new moderator for the time being the thread got deleted. So that people could calm down their expectations.
I do however think it was an easy solution and a bad way of going through with it since this is suppose to be a libertarian forum which it is for the most parts. So to go about and censor a thread in such an obvious way seems to have been a rash decision.
The post DPR had in this thread should rather have come in the deleted thread and maybe a lock on the thread.
I nominate myself.
lol ;D
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With the deletion of Jack's thread, also came the deletion of my libertarian inspiration that was so much the backbone behind my SR experience.
What the fuck guys...
This is the definition of SKETCH...
Get real guys, I can't believe out of ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the fucking idiotic threads, you delete the one that makes sense.
Fuck that noise...
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Did I miss something here somewhere?
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I just saw two more threads deleted (I posted in one) along with some really sketchy post I missed (it was deleted, then the thread was deleted, but was something about someone being busted - I honestly cant speculate at all because I didn't have a chance to read the message). WTF is going on? Seems like some of the Atlantis policies are being implemented over this way.
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Well there's a big ass list of Australian people's info so I'm a just keep on walking...
Jesus.
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Censorship isn't particularly libertarian.
Why? You can do what you want with your property, and what is more libertarian than property rights?
Free speech is a contract between the government and its citizens. In an anarcho-capitalist society there is no government, only property, and what people choose to do with their own property.
If someone doxed you, would you be ok if the mods refused to remove it because they didn't want to censor anyone?
There's all kinds of stuff that should be censored: spam, scams, doxing, people accidentally revealing too much info about themselves, and anything that threatens the site's security or our security -- as a start. Personally I would censor that hate speech that occasionally pops up on the forum, but whatever, it's not my property.
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90% of the time the mods have just moved these threads to an appropriate sub-forum, if not astor has summed it up perfectly.
In saying that though I am quite curious about all this cafuffle, if anyone can fill me in I'm all ears.
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oh boy, i really hope not the wrong guys taking over here...
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In my honest opinion we only need one or two new 'Global Moderators' (blue squares) DPR needs to assign a team of specialised 'Local Moderators' (green squares) the only one I remember was 'DoctaFeelgood' when the 'Philosophy, Economics and Law' board came to be. The difference between 'Global Moderators' and 'Local Moderators' is the 'Local Moderators' are usually assigned to a specific discussion board rather than all of them, however they have the same function and permissions as the 'Global Moderators' for their particular board. Jack N Hoff would make a great 'Global Moderator' in my opinion as he has expansive general knowledge amongst all of the main boards, however there are some shining stars (without naming names, they know who they are) who would sparkle as 'Local Moderators' within 'SilkRoad Discussion', 'Security', 'Drug safety', 'Philosophy, Economics and Law', and 'Newbie discussion' boards. 'Local Moderators' would also be a great support to the 'Global Moderators' as they'll be specialised within their discussion board and will strengthen our commodity, please bring on the green squares! :)
This is a very good proposition, I second it.
Local Moderators would be a really good addition to this forum, since they would be specialized in their own sections and this could also mitigate false information to be spread (I've seen this more times that I would have liked being done in the Drug Safety sub-forum, for example) along normal spam, uniting the community because newer members would have a point of reference in that sub-forum, and also considerably lightening the work of the Global Moderators.
It seems like DPR doesn't want to add new mods, but I hope s/he will at last consider this option in the future.
As for the why the original topic was removed I don't know but I seriously hope there was some real motive why this has been done (and not just baseless paranoia, personal diatribes or political bullshit) because elsewhere all the points about "freedom of expression" etc. are good only when you have to talk about them and that would be pathetic given the meaning of this community.
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Free speech is a contract between the government and its citizens. In an anarcho-capitalist society there is no government, only property, and what people choose to do with their own property.
True, as it is also true, however, that your propriety and what you can do with it has to consider also what other wants about their propriety and what they can do with it. Your capability of speech is a property itself and you can do with it (in the same way) as you please. The two have to take in consideration each other not causing one harm to the other on their personal right of doing with them what they want.
As a single example: your house is your property and you can do with it what you want, but there is also the house of the neighbor and what s/he wants to do with it. BOTH have to be taken in consideration. You cannot do what you want with your own property if what you want harms the liberty of another individual to do the same.
Consider Liber Oz of Crowley, for example:
1. Man has the right to live by his own law—
to live in the way that he wills to do:
to work as he will:
to play as he will:
to rest as he will:
to die when and how he will.
2. Man has the right to eat what he will:
to drink what he will:
to dwell where he will:
to move as he will on the face of the earth.
3. Man has the right to think what he will:
to speak what he will:
to write what he will:
to draw, paint, carve, etch, mould, build as he will:
to dress as he will.
The point is the word "MAN"; it is not "person A has the right" or "person B has the right" or "in this circumstance A has the right" or "in this other B has the right". ALL MEN have the same rights in the same exact measure, so *everyone* has the freedom to do as they will in everything until you don't impede other individuals to do exactly the same, since they have exactly the same rights as you have.
If someone doxed you, would you be ok if the mods refused to remove it because they didn't want to censor anyone?
In this case your freedom to do with your speech what you want will harm both the place where you provide it and both other people's freedoms. It is not the free speech that is unacceptable in this case, but it is the fact that you with your rights did harm other ones. If however your act doesn't harm anybody else's rights it is a totally arbitrary act (and harming another's individual freedom) to remove the right of doing with your property (i.e. your voice in this case) what you want with it.
Don't exchange the freedom of doing with your own property what you want with the freedom of doing what you want to the detriment of another just because you have that right. All have the same rights and no right is better than another or more important than another and no individual is better than another or "higher" than another.
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I think it is not an easy task to find somebody DPR can trust for a mod position. And now taking a rush because the community screams for it can lead into problems.
Im sure he already have an eye out for somebody, im not worry about that.
What i am worry about tho is somebody incompetent taking over.
This place amazed me when i first joined. The nice tone in the forum without much moderation impressed me. I am around black markets for about 10 years and never have i encountered a nice speech anywhere! even in forums where there are more mods than users...
What i always hated was the fact that moderators close topics, delete them and etc without any reason behind it. They always got me mad. Not so in SR! almost no moderation and if there was something moderated the moderator explained his action pretty well.
Where is the sense to not give a reason to it? The guy who made something wrong posting whatever, never knows what he did wrong and can not correct this failure in the future. Not only that but the most important thing to avoid here are the bad vibez coming from such actions. This is like a bad vibe seed which should be destroyed asap or sr will become just like any other forum out there...
Now all of the sudden a new mod pops up (libertas or something). Seemingly a good one. Very much distanced from the community.
All of the sudden has administrator status :O well whatever, probably someone DPR knows better than he knows scout or whoever.
But now this guy starting to act like all the other mods i met in the former blackmarkets and gets the same negative vibez around here, for me at least. That pretty much sucks balls. I really hope this one guy doesnt destroy all the positive vibez coming from here. Because deleting a thread without a given reason is the first step in the wrong direction.
u can see it in businesses all around the world. A new boss comes in and destroys all the good things the former boss has managed to accomplish.
Look at PKR. The first very good 3d poker room, so much potential, pretty much DEAD. Why? because the CEO sucks utter balls. I bet this guy has never had cards in his hands.... They dont listen to their community. Infact the community says make 1500 chips double ups and they go and make it 10.000 instead...
If they hire ME as their ceo the community would grow by 1000% in one year - guaranteed! Damn it, i think even 1 month!
But no, it seems like someone from the family or something took over and now thinks he is a marketing genius... ffs. I hate such revolution brakes.
Look at icq. Wonderful program. Now every update is a downdate. Try and search the function 'log out from this account' in the new icq client... go and SEARCH! u will have a hard time finding it.... why? without ANY sense AT ALL. It was where it was for 10 years... and now some super stupid faq thinks it should be somewhere else.... WHY???? Why make good and running things bad and confusing.... :/
I know in a supermarket they change the places where a specific product lays usually. That is because they want their customers to search harder and maybe find something else they could need on their way. I understand the sense behind it.
But What sense does it make for icq to change the function they had for over 10 years and just put it somewhere else where nobody would ever guess its there????? Why would this guy from PKR go ahead and do something completely against that what his community wants? I just cant see any sense behind that.... maybe its just me!?
Anyway i really hope this doesnt go on like that because then SR will lose its magic to me :(
I really hope who ever deleted that topic will give a good reason for that publicly. Just to save the good vibez in here....
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If someone doxed you, would you be ok if the mods refused to remove it because they didn't want to censor anyone?
In this case your freedom to do with your speech what you want will harm both the place where you provide it and both other people's freedoms. It is not the free speech that is unacceptable in this case, but it is the fact that you with your rights did harm other ones. If however your act doesn't harm anybody else's rights it is a totally arbitrary act (and harming another's individual freedom) to remove the right of doing with your property (i.e. your voice in this case) what you want with it.
It's still censorship. So we agree there are acceptable grounds for censorship.
Harming others is one of them. The thing is, "harm" is pretty broad concept.
Doxing may harm someone by getting them in legal trouble. But what about verbally abusing them? What about spreading lies to ruin their reputation? What about publishing racist ideas that alter people's behavior to whole groups of people? What about trolls who destroy a thriving online community?
Of course, the only acceptable definitions of harm are the ones you personally believe, and if others think other things are harmful they are wrong.
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I too have noticed a change in the way these forums are moderated and it is for the worse.
It bothers me that threads are locked and deleted so frequently now.
Are there rules which the mods must follow?
What are they?
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I too have noticed a change in the way these forums are moderated and it is for the worse.
It bothers me that threads are locked and deleted so frequently now.
Are there rules which the mods must follow?
What are they?
They get instructions from DPR, at least that's what they say.
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No new mods will be added for the time being.
A little white lie I guess. ;D
Thank you for the new mob though. We needed it badly!!!