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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: HeatFireFlame on June 14, 2013, 07:39 pm
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So im wondering the startup costs required to become a Vendor. i know about the original $500 fee, But how much cash do you reckon you would need to spend on product to start off with, None of the money would be spent all would be doubled or whatever and put back into the business. do you reckon $1000 would manage it? On top of that i will have access to a Key of Weed in around 2 months or so that i wont need to pay for.
just looking for some advice from some experienced vendors.
thanks for all your help
Hff
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You need vac seal machinery, shipping materials, postage, baggies, gloves, sanitizing solution, and maybe labels too.
I don't know what you're selling, but 1000 dollars would be what I'd be prepared to spend BEFORE buying product to sell on here.
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You need vac seal machinery, shipping materials, postage, baggies, gloves, sanitizing solution, and maybe labels too.
I don't know what you're selling, but 1000 dollars would be what I'd be prepared to spend BEFORE buying product to sell on here.
Thank you, Dually noted. So how much in your opinion, go with around 2000 dollars.
any recommendations on sanitizing solution? gloves you can get 100 pairs for 2 dollars or so, Wear 2 pairs at a time, not really a problem. Shipping materials to start up i would say might cost me around 200 dollars, I could purchase more once i had made my first couple purchases. Save another $250 for postage, Start domestic, Then expand to international. just the vac seal machinery that would be the issue i suppose.
really though, thanks for reminding me of it all, makes me think of all the other things that would be required i forgot to consider.
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Thank you, Dually noted. So how much in your opinion, go with around 2000 dollars.
any recommendations on sanitizing solution? gloves you can get 100 pairs for 2 dollars or so, Wear 2 pairs at a time, not really a problem. Shipping materials to start up i would say might cost me around 200 dollars, I could purchase more once i had made my first couple purchases. Save another $250 for postage, Start domestic, Then expand to international. just the vac seal machinery that would be the issue i suppose.
really though, thanks for reminding me of it all, makes me think of all the other things that would be required i forgot to consider.
I wouldn't wear two pairs of gloves at a time, to be sure your fingerprints don't go through use nitrile gloves instead of latex gloves, they're a bit more expensive but it's worth it IMO. Also, you don't need a vacuum sealing machine, use a heat sealer and MBB (an iron and hair straightener will work).
I don't think you need more than $1000 if you already have the product, but it's better to have more just in case, although the worst that can happen is that you're not able to fill orders anymore and have to take a break which isn't too bad anyways. Keep in mind that you're gonna be able to cash out your bitcoins after the first week so that should be enough to pay for shiping supplies and stuff.
Baggies, gloves, rubbing alcohol and MBB are all extremely cheap and labels are free so I really think you're good with $1000...
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Don't forget the fees in cashing out bitcoin into euros or dollars. Aren't the moneypaks on SR selling for 115 dollars worth of bitcoin for 100 dollars of, dollars?
There are other ways, such as MtGox, to cash out your bitcoin into dollars cheaper, but not very anonymously. How are you going to launder you money? Don't put more than 5000 dollars into your bank every so often or it'll raise federal suspicion. You could ignore that, but pay taxes on your new income and give back to your government. The choice is yours.
And the final fee: inflation.
Use rubbing alcohol as your sanitizing solution.
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Thank you, Dually noted. So how much in your opinion, go with around 2000 dollars.
any recommendations on sanitizing solution? gloves you can get 100 pairs for 2 dollars or so, Wear 2 pairs at a time, not really a problem. Shipping materials to start up i would say might cost me around 200 dollars, I could purchase more once i had made my first couple purchases. Save another $250 for postage, Start domestic, Then expand to international. just the vac seal machinery that would be the issue i suppose.
really though, thanks for reminding me of it all, makes me think of all the other things that would be required i forgot to consider.
I wouldn't wear two pairs of gloves at a time, to be sure your fingerprints don't go through use nitrile gloves instead of latex gloves, they're a bit more expensive but it's worth it IMO. Also, you don't need a vacuum sealing machine, use a heat sealer and MBB (an iron and hair straightener will work).
I don't think you need more than $1000 if you already have the product, but it's better to have more just in case, although the worst that can happen is that you're not able to fill orders anymore and have to take a break which isn't too bad anyways. Keep in mind that you're gonna be able to cash out your bitcoins after the first week so that should be enough to pay for shiping supplies and stuff.
Baggies, gloves, rubbing alcohol and MBB are all extremely cheap and labels are free so I really think you're good with $1000...
Security is first priority cost second so spending some extra gloves is no biggie. yea the Myler shit would be what i went with. Yeah exactly worst case scenario il take a break for a week or so.labels are free... Might sound stupid but where from?
Obviously i would prefer to buy the MBB etc from a shop in cash, but i dont know anywhere that sells them, should i buy them from the road? or get some friend to purchase them from ebay for me?
Don't forget the fees in cashing out bitcoin into euros or dollars. Aren't the moneypaks on SR selling for 115 dollars worth of bitcoin for 100 dollars of, dollars?
There are other ways, such as MtGox, to cash out your bitcoin into dollars cheaper, but not very anonymously. How are you going to launder you money? Don't put more than 5000 dollars into your bank every so often or it'll raise federal suspicion. You could ignore that, but pay taxes on your new income and give back to your government. The choice is yours.
And the final fee: inflation.
Use rubbing alcohol as your sanitizing solution.
Well i would obviously have to do a lot of research beforehand , But i definetely would not be using Mtgox to cash out. are moneypaks seriously the best way to cash out ?
Id prefer to keep the ideas of how im going to launder the cash to myself, just to be safe.How would you recommend? However im still fairly new to it, but for the amount of sales il probably have in he first month it wont need to be extensive.
Fuck paying taxes on money earned from SR, it would have to be some laundering method where i ratted it out somehow.
ahh inflation, the killer.
Thanks for your advice all, this is the start of me looking into becoming a seller so i apologize if i dont seem very savvy yet.
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dont forget the postage costs!. ;D
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dont forget the postage costs!. ;D
Of course! Wouldn't that be a bastard if i forgot about the bloody postage and spent all the other cash on products and mylar only to not be able to send anything out. *facepalm*
any tips for someone just starting out? Once you become a vendor, they have the vendor forums am i correct? Just somewhere i could ask about things i would need advice with. basic things such as going over best ways of cashing out, help with best methods of packaging, of course i can find my own ways out, However it's always good to get some feedback before sending anything out, i would not want to compromise my customers security with shitty packaging.
Thanks
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MBB is sold on the silk road, and I think vac seal machines are sold on the road, but as someone else said earlier, they not a requirement due to MBB. Its a big plus though.
You need to exist as a vendor for 6 weeks, sell 1200 USD worth of product, have 30 transactions, and have had your vendor bond refunded before you can enter the vendor forums, and your silk road user name must be the same as your forums name.
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I would suggest if your serious and want to make an impact, make use of the forums and plan and launch at the same time.
Then I would as someone above suggested spend 1000$ for decent vac machine and and all the other postage appendage's required.
Then you might want to prepare for an influx of orders, I would suggest spending as little on stamp postage ect as you possibly can at first, and by any means of dont go out and buy a million stamps at A first buy.
I personally would at first spend less than 200$ in stamps or maybe even less, if you got ready cash to go buy them from postal shops.
Then start to practice on how to deal with customer support, if you want me to test your wits!.
I will haha. ;D
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MBB is sold on the silk road, and I think vac seal machines are sold on the road, but as someone else said earlier, they not a requirement due to MBB. Its a big plus though.
You need to exist as a vendor for 6 weeks, sell 1200 USD worth of product, have 30 transactions, and have had your vendor bond refunded before you can enter the vendor forums, and your silk road user name must be the same as your forums name.
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thanks il keep it in mind. Hopefully it wont take me too long to get that.
I would suggest if your serious and want to make an impact, make use of the forums and plan and launch at the same time.
Then I would as someone above suggested spend 1000$ for decent vac machine and and all the other postage appendage's required.
Then you might want to prepare for an influx of orders, I would suggest spending as little on stamp postage ect as you possibly can at first, by any means of dont go out and buy a million stamps at first buy, i would less than 200$ in stamps or maybe less, or make sure you got ready cash to go buy them from postal shops.
Then start to practice on how to deal with customer support, if you want me to test your wits i will haha. ;D
yeah i would plan a launch type thing, Set aside possibly $150-$200 worth of product for samples to trusted members in return for reviews to get the ball rolling.
I have witnessed how the forums can be a vendors best friend..
yes i was thinking of stocking up on stamps on separate occasions from different post offices before i became a vendor and some other basic products so i was all ready to go before i took the leap.
Someone mentioned free labels, might sound dumb but any idea where from?
Ok shoot ;D Some practice never hurt anyone. Although i reckon i'll be not half bad
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DO NOT GO FREE BY ANY MEANS!.
There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
And any free label site's out there is a cache for your info.
Go spend some decent money on a label printer but also make sure you source one cheap from eBay with a cheaper supply of labels.
I made the mistake of buying a high end label printer had it a month, paper jam episodes all the way.
So make sure you get a good cheap one there ain't no difference in one that cost 1000$ or one for 50$ they ALL print on the same thermal paper so don't get fooled, by the micro second speeds they promise you.
You wont be that busy.
So i recommend a Brother QL-500 cheap cheerful fast and reasonable label prices.
If anyone knows a better label solution I want to know it!. :).
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DO NOT GO FREE BY ANY MEANS!.
There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
And any free label site's out there is a cache for your info.
Go spend some decent money on a label printer but also make sure you source one cheap from eBay with a cheaper supply of labels.
I made the mistake of buying a high end label printer had it a month, paper jam episodes all the way.
So make sure you get a good cheap one there ain't no difference in one that cost 1000$ or one for 50$ they ALL print on the same thermal paper so don't get fooled, by the micro second speeds they promise you.
You wont be that busy.
So i recommend a Brother QL-500 cheap cheerful fast and reasonable label prices.
If anyone knows a better label solution I want to know it!. :).
Fair enough, labels cant be that expensive anyway. Seems fair enough. I'l look up that label printer definitely. Cheers mate, It's appreciated.
so you gunna test my wits or what :o
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Yer sure,
wtf is my order and what you doing about it. its been 2 days now, im not happy and i want a refund right now, or im gonna leave you feedback from hell!!!!!.
hows that for a maybe middle case scenario... )-ooooo
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Yer sure,
wtf is my order and what you doing about it. its been 2 days now, im not happy and i want a refund right now, or im gonna leave you feedback from hell!!!!!.
hows that for a maybe middle case scenario... )-ooooo
Yer sure,
wtf is my order and what you doing about it. its been 2 days now, im not happy and i want a refund right now, or im gonna leave you feedback from hell!!!!!.
hows that for a maybe middle case scenario... )-ooooo
would depend on the situation woulden't it. but here's my crack at it.
The order was sent out on "X" it should have arrived by now, however sometimes order's do get slowed down due to the mail, Please be patient and im sure it will turn up, My packaging methods are all up to scratch so i doubt very much there is an issue there.
2 days is not very long at all and there is no next day delivery guarantee on my page so as much as i want you to get your order so i can get paid, sometimes we both just have to wait.
Im sorry your order is not with you yet , And i hope you get it tomorrow.
all the best
hff
how was that? =P
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very good.
but fuck two days passed where is my order do i get a reship where is my refund?. confused here i sent and paid you btc, its not fuckin here?... my addy is fine never had issuse with it before. regards BLAH blah WITS.
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wtf where is my response?.. not happy. 8)
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very good.
but fuck two days passed where is my order do i get a reship where is my refund?. confused here i sent and paid you btc, its not fuckin here?... my addy is fine never had issuse with it before. regards BLAH blah WITS.
if you do not receive it within "X" days then we shall discuss where to take it from there in the resolution center. You did not pay me the BTC, they are in escrow so i cannot get my hands on them the same way you cant get your hands on them.
Personally i have no idea if your address is compromised or not so i cant comment on that, however as i previously stated my stealth is well beyond current standards and should have had no issues domestically, In fact i would put money on it making it through tougher borders.
I am sorry you dont have your order yet, and as i said i shall do my absolute best to sort things out with you should it not arrive.
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so how would you deal with it if it wasn't sent with tracking? how am i meant to know he isnt scamming me? I suppose that's why the 50% refund applies eh?
wtf where is my response?.. not happy. 8)
please allow me time to respond before you send me abusive messages 8)
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Thats the million dollar question all vendors want to answer and give an answer too, it basically boils down to this:
A good memory for user names, using the ROUNDTABLE area wehn you are granted access, DUE dilligence a Spark of GUT feeling in ur tummy, and above all patience and a wider understanding of scammers and there workings, so take note of there stats, a low losable order you can live with.
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Well I think $1000 is enough, that vendor fee sounds ridiculous. The biggest mistake newbie sellers make IMO is they think they can start small, offer limited services, and build up. However, this is a developed marketplace. You need to compete with the big boys right off the bat or you stand no chance. Why would someone buy weed from you when they can buy it from a well established reputable vendor who offers a bunch of product and methods to shipping? The answer is that you have to be bigger then them! You have to offer superior product, and we have legit MD farmers here on SR so there is a lot to live up to. Wait until you have the funds to allow shipping everywhere, with different options (ie. Stealth, tracking, etc.). Then sell cheap! Once you have established a good rep. and have a foot hold in SR then you raise prices, and add to you're business.
Hope this helps.
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Thats the million dollar question all vendors want to answer and give an answer too, it basically boils down to this:
A good memory for user names, using the ROUNDTABLE area wehn you are granted access, DUE dilligence a Spark of GUT feeling in ur tummy, and above all patience and a wider understanding of scammers and there workings, so take note of there stats, a low losable order you can live with.
Ahh so i stumbled on "the age old question".
What is the roundtable area? if your able to post it in here. Say you get a Gut feeling that some asshole has received the package, but is still arguing for a refund, What should you do? I mean you dont want the shit feedback, But there's no way your giving them a free package if you know what i mean. how do vendors keep such good ratings , there must be a mad amount of scammers everywhere?
Well I think $1000 is enough, that vendor fee sounds ridiculous. The biggest mistake newbie sellers make IMO is they think they can start small, offer limited services, and build up. However, this is a developed marketplace. You need to compete with the big boys right off the bat or you stand no chance. Why would someone buy weed from you when they can buy it from a well established reputable vendor who offers a bunch of product and methods to shipping? The answer is that you have to be bigger then them! You have to offer superior product, and we have legit MD farmers here on SR so there is a lot to live up to. Wait until you have the funds to allow shipping everywhere, with different options (ie. Stealth, tracking, etc.). Then sell cheap! Once you have established a good rep. and have a foot hold in SR then you raise prices, and add to you're business.
Hope this helps.
thanks for your advice mate. However the reason i wanted to start "small" i say small , however i mean relatively small as in domestic only to start until first couple of weeks are over etc.
as long as my product is superior, Shipped domestic, cheaper which there is a lack of where im from, I reckon i'll be fine.
if you think about it, There's no way to compete with bigger vendors until you are bigger yourself, they have feedback , you dont until you make some sales. they have been selling for a while therefore have experience you dont, And they have more money because they have been selling longer.
nyways thanks for your advice mate.
Il speak soon, probably tomorrow.
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spend 30 or less on ebay on label printer go buy 50 stamps and some sorta air/bubble envelopes type size. cheap 70-80 bucks home food vac machine, your products. some extra layers ov printing paper in your package flatten it out as small as possible make sure it can bend 45 degrees or more in a 40-50 mile an hour speed sorting machine and your good to go...
Dont forget the extra bit of Common sense.
and well thats about it?.
total cost proly under 2-300$ if you are desperate enough.
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Well i would obviously have to do a lot of research beforehand , But i definetely would not be using Mtgox to cash out. are moneypaks seriously the best way to cash out ?
Id prefer to keep the ideas of how im going to launder the cash to myself, just to be safe.How would you recommend? However im still fairly new to it, but for the amount of sales il probably have in he first month it wont need to be extensive.
Fuck paying taxes on money earned from SR, it would have to be some laundering method where i ratted it out somehow.
:)
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spend 30 or less on ebay on label printer go buy 50 stamps and some sorta air/bubble envelopes type size. cheap 70-80 bucks home food vac machine, your products. some extra layers ov printing paper in your package flatten it out as small as possible make sure it can bend 45 degrees or more in a 40-50 mile an hour speed sorting machine and your good to go...
Dont forget the extra bit of Common sense.
and well thats about it?.
total cost proly under 2-300$ if you are desperate enough.
some dent advice, Appreciated Uk . You'll be receiving a free sample wen i first start if you so wish one. :)
what about MBB, recommended? And should i not get some sort of thing to black out a shape from any kind of X-ray machine?
mate you have been a great help. thanks for taking the time out to give me some advice.
Well i would obviously have to do a lot of research beforehand , But i definetely would not be using Mtgox to cash out. are moneypaks seriously the best way to cash out ?
Id prefer to keep the ideas of how im going to launder the cash to myself, just to be safe.How would you recommend? However im still fairly new to it, but for the amount of sales il probably have in he first month it wont need to be extensive.
Fuck paying taxes on money earned from SR, it would have to be some laundering method where i ratted it out somehow.
:)
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This.
My good man Stexo will always be on hand to give me some help in the long run should i require it.
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To answer your question, you can get free shipping labels at any post office, I don't know what country you're in though so it may be different. Labels shouldn't be expensive anyways.
I also recommend MBB, especially for weed and vacuum sealing is a bit useless unless you want it to be compressed or if it can rot. Vacuum sealing or not, if it's sealed, the odor doesn't get out.
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Expect an average of 2-3 weeks worth of sales in escrow, expect buyers lying about not getting their orders. Expect it to take a long time to turn bitcoins into cash and that it will cost you.
You will need to be able to afford about a month's shipping before the money starts coming back.
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Thats the million dollar question all vendors want to answer and give an answer too, it basically boils down to this:
A good memory for user names, using the ROUNDTABLE area wehn you are granted access, DUE dilligence a Spark of GUT feeling in ur tummy, and above all patience and a wider understanding of scammers and there workings, so take note of there stats, a low losable order you can live with.
I just asked about this in the newbie forum. So is there some kind of answer to this? How can a vendor prove 100% that he shipped a package and it was delivered? prepaid envelopes have tracking but you can't print a label. they come with pre-attached labels that you have to fill out by hand. this demands time, has possible errors, and most buyers seem to think it's a bad thing (the hand written label)
So apart from examining every buyer who posts and order (more time consuming behavior) you still might be scammed.
Is this why prices are so high? So many scams that vendors price so high that 50% refund, or a reship is still a profitable sale? Does this in turn lead to vendors offering private sales (custom etc) for repeat / good buyers at a reduced cost?
Any ideas on how to get around this problem? As a potential (hopefully soon) vendor I find this to be troubling. There is a lot of focus on buyer protection. But I'm more concerned about my protection. I do honest business, my group does honest business. We aren't "yo" kids. We believe in professionalism and good business. If someone makes a buy they get what was offered at the price quoted. Dealing with 2 week holds on funds, resolution, proof of shipping, "i didn't get nothing" and all that. I mean shit, it's all adding to the cost. I can see why coke, weed, meth, MDMA, and roids are so damn expensive here.
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Yer sure,
wtf is my order and what you doing about it. its been 2 days now, im not happy and i want a refund right now, or im gonna leave you feedback from hell!!!!!.
hows that for a maybe middle case scenario... )-ooooo
Yer sure,
wtf is my order and what you doing about it. its been 2 days now, im not happy and i want a refund right now, or im gonna leave you feedback from hell!!!!!.
hows that for a maybe middle case scenario... )-ooooo
would depend on the situation woulden't it. but here's my crack at it.
The order was sent out on "X" it should have arrived by now, however sometimes order's do get slowed down due to the mail, Please be patient and im sure it will turn up, My packaging methods are all up to scratch so i doubt very much there is an issue there.
2 days is not very long at all and there is no next day delivery guarantee on my page so as much as i want you to get your order so i can get paid, sometimes we both just have to wait.
Im sorry your order is not with you yet , And i hope you get it tomorrow.
all the best
hff
how was that? =P
I know you probably aren't stupid enough to do so.. But don't open a vendor account with the buying account you've been using or the forum account.
Just a heads up! Because you wouldn't believe how many people don't do it. :)
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I'd say you should plan for more than that. As other people mentioned why are people going to go with you instead of someone more established? What I did to remedy that was give out samples and it worked very well. So if you do something like that, I gave away a little over 2oz so factor in your cost for something like that if you wish to do so. The other costs people already covered so I won't. O, but a printer can be better than a label maker, it will print many more at a time and it's just as easy to use. So maybe find a decent printer.
I believe it cost me around $1300 but you can make it back fast if you have the right stuff.
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I know you probably aren't stupid enough to do so.. But don't open a vendor account with the buying account you've been using or the forum account.
Just a heads up! Because you wouldn't believe how many people don't do it. :)
What's your reasoning behind that?
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I know you probably aren't stupid enough to do so.. But don't open a vendor account with the buying account you've been using or the forum account.
Just a heads up! Because you wouldn't believe how many people don't do it. :)
What's your reasoning behind that?
Easy : the vendors you used may have your address saved and could blackmail you easily, or even turn you over.
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I know you probably aren't stupid enough to do so.. But don't open a vendor account with the buying account you've been using or the forum account.
Just a heads up! Because you wouldn't believe how many people don't do it. :)
No i wouldn't lol, but thanks for your concern anyway. ;)
Expect an average of 2-3 weeks worth of sales in escrow, expect buyers lying about not getting their orders. Expect it to take a long time to turn bitcoins into cash and that it will cost you.
You will need to be able to afford about a month's shipping before the money starts coming back.
Hi tessellated, Great to see you on here, I have ordered from you before,You are a well established vendor, Do you have any advice on the whole, buyers pretending their orders didn't turn up scene ? When are you able to basically say fuck off , I mean sometimes fair enough, But let's say it's obvious a buyer is trying to scam some more free shit out of you, But at the same time, You dont want him to leave shitty feedback because feedback on here is just as good as having premium product,You Need it. Any advice at all mate?
thanks for your input as well.
You seem pretty stressed about the whole thing, Which i understand due to the amount of work you must be putting in. does it really start to get on top of you? especially if you are a one person operation.
thanks for helping everyone, your input is valued and appreciated. I shall remember everyone who helped me here today . :)
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I know you probably aren't stupid enough to do so.. But don't open a vendor account with the buying account you've been using or the forum account.
Just a heads up! Because you wouldn't believe how many people don't do it. :)
What's your reasoning behind that?
Easy : the vendors you used may have your address saved and could blackmail you easily, or even turn you over.
Great point! I feel like this can be very easily overlooked.
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Yer forgot that bit dont keep any customer info, EVER EVER.
Not only crazy stupid but just say you got caught doing something.
You or maybe a close/near/family/member/friend/neighbor get into trouble.
The LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY'S will take what ever they deem fit, for there purpose.
My Daughter was a murder victim and they took about 40 pc's god knows how many mobile phones ect. involved with the case. and did eventually find the bastards. from the evidence on the electronic gear.
Point being they can do what ever the fuck they want once you oblige them with permission.
Sounds far fetched i know but !!!!.... TRUE :-\
USE TAILS or go search the road for this chap i use his 32gb sticks worth the btc...
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/155f2f06c0
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still waiting on me order 8)
haha
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I started vending rc's on clearnet I had 200 dollars and no lab connections.
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USE TAILS or go search the road for this chap i use his 32gb sticks worth the btc...
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/155f2f06c0
I wouldn't buy electronic devices on SR, how do you know there's not a keylogger or other spyware in it? Doing it yourself is really not hard and you can buy a 32GB flash drive on amazon. But do you really need that much space? whatever you need to store won't take much space.. Keys and maybe a list of crap buyers won't use 32GB, probably more like 32kB
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Yer forgot that bit dont keep any customer info, EVER EVER.
Not only crazy stupid but just say you got caught doing something.
You or maybe a close/near/family/member/friend/neighbor get into trouble.
The LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY'S will take what ever they deem fit, for there purpose.
My Daughter was a murder victim and they took about 40 pc's god knows how many mobile phones ect. involved with the case. and did eventually find the bastards. from the evidence on the electronic gear.
Point being they can do what ever the fuck they want once you oblige them with permission.
Sounds far fetched i know but !!!!.... TRUE :-\
USE TAILS or go search the road for this chap i use his 32gb sticks worth the btc...
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/155f2f06c0
wow im really sorry to hear that.
No i would NEVER store any details of customers longer than need be, read them once package parcel, Destroy them. I have read that a million times.
yup im going to have tails without a bloody doubt. That way all i need to do is take out and destroy should the need arise, 8Gb USB should do it i reckon.
Oh trust me i know, they even take every phone, PC ,laptop, Tablet anything that can connect online, for a drug raid minimum.
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still waiting on me order 8)
haha
Im sorry to hear that, However I know i sent it, If you want to take it to resolution go ahead and i shall issue you a 50% refund.
Im sorry you never received your order and all the best.
Please feel free to order again here --> silkroadvb5piz3r.onionbhekjewfhjfhl :)
USE TAILS or go search the road for this chap i use his 32gb sticks worth the btc...
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/155f2f06c0
I wouldn't buy electronic devices on SR, how do you know there's not a keylogger or other spyware in it? Doing it yourself is really not hard and you can buy a 32GB flash drive on amazon. But do you really need that much space? whatever you need to store won't take much space.. Keys and maybe a list of crap buyers won't use 32GB, probably more like 32kB
ahh that could always be a possibility, Fuck being a vendor and buying a device with a bloody keylogger on it, You may as well donate all your coins to a random BTc address and try and get them back lol.
Thanks everyone :)
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Hi tessellated, Great to see you on here, I have ordered from you before,You are a well established vendor, Do you have any advice on the whole, buyers pretending their orders didn't turn up scene ? When are you able to basically say fuck off , I mean sometimes fair enough, But let's say it's obvious a buyer is trying to scam some more free shit out of you, But at the same time, You dont want him to leave shitty feedback because feedback on here is just as good as having premium product,You Need it. Any advice at all mate?
thanks for your input as well.
You seem pretty stressed about the whole thing, Which i understand due to the amount of work you must be putting in. does it really start to get on top of you? especially if you are a one person operation.
thanks for helping everyone, your input is valued and appreciated. I shall remember everyone who helped me here today . :)
No stress, we just work it into the cost of business. We rarely deny a refund even to an obvious scammer. What we do is start requiring FE from the city. We had to do this with Austing TX before, but the scammers gave up once we put the policy in place and have not really had to enforce it.
For every scammer that you never deal with again there are 2 or 3 good repeat customers.
My point was that you need to be pessimistic about how much profit you will make, add wiggle room into your business model.
Be prepared for bitcoins to change in value while you are waiting to turn it into cash. The drop from $200 would have really hurt us if we were not cost averaging our bitcoins.
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If you believe 1000$ is enough, you better get 2000$. Vac seal, bags,gloves,different envolopes,a printer, anony prepaid credit card, shipping materials and most of all you need knowledge. You need to read these forums inside-out to develop knowledge on current/recent scam attempts and shipping techniques. If you get less then top shelf product be prepared to go broke, real quick. Scammers will claim short count or no delivery if its bad stuff. If you dont comply theres a 1/5 brother. Good luck, its time consuming but worth while.
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I know you probably aren't stupid enough to do so.. But don't open a vendor account with the buying account you've been using or the forum account.
Just a heads up! Because you wouldn't believe how many people don't do it. :)
What's your reasoning behind that?
Some vendors might store details from previous orders - lets say you are vendor B and this said vendor is vendor A.
You B at one point were only a buyer, and your purchased from A (and you used your own name/address/or one that can be linked to you) and vednro A decides to store that..
6 months later.. Vendor A notices that you B are now a vendor - well he has your address and name and whatever else. He could exploit that in many ways. Maybe vendor A gets arressted and decided to say 'I can give you another vendors name and address if you are easier on me', he could blackmail and so on.
Basic knowledge is - ALWAYS have a clean account for vending. NEVER EVER order from your vendor account.
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I'd say you should plan for more than that. As other people mentioned why are people going to go with you instead of someone more established? What I did to remedy that was give out samples and it worked very well. So if you do something like that, I gave away a little over 2oz so factor in your cost for something like that if you wish to do so. The other costs people already covered so I won't. O, but a printer can be better than a label maker, it will print many more at a time and it's just as easy to use. So maybe find a decent printer.
I believe it cost me around $1300 but you can make it back fast if you have the right stuff.
This may not be a good idea https://w2.eff.org/Privacy/printers/docucolor/
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I'd say you should plan for more than that. As other people mentioned why are people going to go with you instead of someone more established? What I did to remedy that was give out samples and it worked very well. So if you do something like that, I gave away a little over 2oz so factor in your cost for something like that if you wish to do so. The other costs people already covered so I won't. O, but a printer can be better than a label maker, it will print many more at a time and it's just as easy to use. So maybe find a decent printer.
I believe it cost me around $1300 but you can make it back fast if you have the right stuff.
This may not be a good idea https://w2.eff.org/Privacy/printers/docucolor/
I would have a label printer anyway mate :)
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I have spent 3-4k so far, its really been a learning process. I smoked a lot of my product the first few months when business was non-existent.
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I have spent 3-4k so far, its really been a learning process. I smoked a lot of my product the first few months when business was non-existent.
Yeah i can guarantee it will be a learning process. But i would never touch product that was for sales. The old never get high on your own supply would always apply.
If i had to take something i would put the money in for it. Im not exactly an addict so doing this would not pose much of a problem to me.
Waiting on your BC bubble Hash Sample, Cant wait to try it leaf.
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No body wants stale buds..right? I am just chopping it up to quality control expenses ;D. We have some new storage methods that should reduce this expense ;)
Even then:
20btc on a vendor account(counting it as 500)
500 on packaging
3k on product
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No body wants stale buds..right? I am just chopping it up to quality control expenses ;D. We have some new storage methods that should reduce this expense ;)
Even then:
20btc on a vendor account(counting it as 500)
500 on packaging
3k on product
haha quality control, i like it. Surely you could have made some hash with the buds though? well thats always a bonus.
3k. on product? Maybe start growing some outdoor plants or indoors if you can spare the rent for a cheap private let per month, save yourself a fuckload of cash.
If you dont mind me asking, would you say you had made your cash back yet?
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A little tip:
There are many hospitality auctions where closing down restaurants sell their equipment etc to recover funds.
Especially the top end fine dining restaurants use vac pac machines a lot, so not uncommon to see a ~$5000 professional grade vac pack machine go for under $1000.
Gotta keep an eye out! :)
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**Slaps a High 5 to HFF**
;)
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**Slaps a High 5 to HFF**
;)
*Gives chemcat a High5 back and a sly wink at the same time*
Hows things chemcat bro? Having a good one?
p.s. congratz on vendor status, glad to see you took the plunge, Im sure you'l be one of the good guys :DNo im certain:D
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@ HFF
I'll try to do my best :)
oh not having a good one at all, back is keeping me down today all fubar on damn morphine...
gonna be a bed day today HFF
how've you been?
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well i would hope to pray that i'd be one of the good guys :)
got some things to work out and i'll be listing public soon :)
ok this is gonna take me a bit, i have to use the bathroom...be right back ...
Hugs to ya HFF :)
i'm Glad to see you stuck around :)
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@ HFF
I'll try to do my best :)
oh not having a good one at all, back is keeping me down today all fubar on damn morphine...
gonna be a bed day today HFF
how've you been?
thats a shame mate, my knee is bloody killing me as well, Can hardly walk on it at the moment.
Yeah apart from that not to bad, Still alive :)
well i would hope to pray that i'd be one of the good guys :)
got some things to work out and i'll be listing public soon :)
ok this is gonna take me a bit, i have to use the bathroom...be right back ...
Hugs to ya HFF :)
i'm Glad to see you stuck around :)
Well we all know you'l be one of the good guys, I remember when i first came accross silk road, you were even helpfull way back then , I remember sending my first PGP message to you ! And that was a while back now...
Great sounds good im sure it'sbetter to reserach first before jumping in, it woud work out better that way, I have been looking into becoming a vendor myself. As you can probably see by my thread here :P
No problem c you in a minute.. .
*hugs back like a madman on Mdma:D*
Of course i stuck around... :D where else would i go
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oh man, HFF :o
i'm in and out..tryin to keep up with posts LOL
WOW it has been that long :)
pretty long we've been here son :)
###REMOVED### ;)
ok HFF i have to try to get up , man this sux, i gotta move around before i nod again :(
Love ya HeatFireFlame :)
WOW we have been here for a good bit huh?
Love,
Chem
O0
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Pffff, paid the $500 fee, in 4 weeks I met the criteria to get it back (other than being a vendor for 6 weeks) plus a total profit of about $1000.
Cannabis is too tricky ;)
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You can buy zip lock mbb bags if you want and won't even need to use a vac seal. I would first put product in a baggie then the baggie in a mbb/mylar baggie and that plus good stealth would be enough.
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haha quality control, i like it. Surely you could have made some hash with the buds though? well thats always a bonus.
3k. on product? Maybe start growing some outdoor plants or indoors if you can spare the rent for a cheap private let per month, save yourself a fuckload of cash.
If you dont mind me asking, would you say you had made your cash back yet?
Most of the product was pre-rolls, and most of these were given away on the road. We ended up smoking some of them and trading them with friends and family locally. We have some longer term storage techniques down now ;). Haven't made our money back or even gotten our deposit back. But interest has been steady and our feedback has been really positive. Cannabis is a little competitive here on the road, so we are expecting it to take some time, we are in no rush... our sights are on the stars.
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You can buy zip lock mbb bags if you want and won't even need to use a vac seal. I would first put product in a baggie then the baggie in a mbb/mylar baggie and that plus good stealth would be enough.
You don't need to vacuum seal MBB, you can just seal them with an iron or hair straightener. Vacuum sealing is useless when trying to conceal odor, it's just got to be sealed.
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tree dont even try.....
fuck it...we try and they dont listen....
oh i'm sorry......i'm having a bad night and shouldnt be in this thread...
(Rolls Eyes)
good night!
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oh man, HFF :o
i'm in and out..tryin to keep up with posts LOL
WOW it has been that long :)
pretty long we've been here son :)
###REMOVED### ;)
ok HFF i have to try to get up , man this sux, i gotta move around before i nod again :(
Love ya HeatFireFlame :)
WOW we have been here for a good bit huh?
Love,
Chem
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Damn chemcat it has been some time now bro yeah. You over swamped with posts eh?
best of luck with your back etc mate hope all is well :)
Yeah a pretty wee while now mate :P
Peace.
Hffhaha quality control, i like it. Surely you could have made some hash with the buds though? well thats always a bonus.
3k. on product? Maybe start growing some outdoor plants or indoors if you can spare the rent for a cheap private let per month, save yourself a fuckload of cash.
If you dont mind me asking, would you say you had made your cash back yet?
Most of the product was pre-rolls, and most of these were given away on the road. We ended up smoking some of them and trading them with friends and family locally. We have some longer term storage techniques down now ;). Haven't made our money back or even gotten our deposit back. But interest has been steady and our feedback has been really positive. Cannabis is a little competitive here on the road, so we are expecting it to take some time, we are in no rush... our sights are on the stars.
Glad to hear it, Hope your storage methods last .;)
Great to hear, hope you do well leaf. all the best bro. tree dont even try.....
fuck it...we try and they dont listen....
oh i'm sorry......i'm having a bad night and shouldnt be in this thread...
(Rolls Eyes)
good night!
Chemcat Lmao . .. What a guy. Always polite.
Night bro .
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Hey still waiting il take a 100% refund haha.
So hows the vending going?, you should put your link in signature to your vending page you will need to do that when you claim your vendor bond back, if you decide to.
I missed that opportunity as i bought my vending account a few weeks before it was implemented.
So i hope your doing good my friend!.
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Hey still waiting il take a 100% refund haha.
So hows the vending going?, you should put your link in signature to your vending page you will need to do that when you claim your vendor bond back, if you decide to.
I missed that opportunity as i bought my vending account a few weeks before it was implemented.
So i hope your doing good my friend!.
Hey mate, Well i actually havent startet vending yet, im doing some research and im waiting on some product "growing". It is unfortunate i have to wait however its the most cost effective way, im going to need every penny when im just starting. Yea i will link to my vendor page below my name when I do become a vendor. Definetely, makes it easier for people to find my page .
What do you mean il need to do it when iclaim my bond back mate? is it neccesary to link it or something?
Thanks for everything Ukstealth, Appreciated.It really is.
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tree dont even try.....
fuck it...we try and they dont listen....
oh i'm sorry......i'm having a bad night and shouldnt be in this thread...
(Rolls Eyes)
good night!
Oh well at least maybe HFF will listen :P Good night!
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tree dont even try.....
fuck it...we try and they dont listen....
oh i'm sorry......i'm having a bad night and shouldnt be in this thread...
(Rolls Eyes)
good night!
I always listen tree.. To everyone. :)
Oh well at least maybe HFF will listen :P Good night!
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You can claim your vendor bond back, once you have fulfilled the certain requirements, dont worry about that as you are not set up yet, but go scroll down to end of your silkroad page select support then click the link to FAQ.
Its up to date and i recommend you should spend some time there reading it.
As all should do. !
Buyers or vendors alike, its subject to change at any time!.
Regards UK Stealth.
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You can claim your vendor bond back, once you have fulfilled the certain requirements, dont worry about that as you are not set up yet, but go scroll down to end of your silkroad page select support then click the link to FAQ.
Its up to date and i recommend you should spend some time there reading it.
As all should do. !
Buyers or vendors alike, its subject to change at any time!.
Regards UK Stealth.
what they said...
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You can buy zip lock mbb bags if you want and won't even need to use a vac seal. I would first put product in a baggie then the baggie in a mbb/mylar baggie and that plus good stealth would be enough.
You don't need to vacuum seal MBB, you can just seal them with an iron or hair straightener. Vacuum sealing is useless when trying to conceal odor, it's just got to be sealed.
I was referring to putting the mbb in a plastic bag and vac sealing as that is what vendors are doing but there is no need.
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You can buy zip lock mbb bags if you want and won't even need to use a vac seal. I would first put product in a baggie then the baggie in a mbb/mylar baggie and that plus good stealth would be enough.
You don't need to vacuum seal MBB, you can just seal them with an iron or hair straightener. Vacuum sealing is useless when trying to conceal odor, it's just got to be sealed.
I was referring to putting the mbb in a plastic bag and vac sealing as that is what vendors are doing but there is no need.
That's a weird thing to do, I've never seen that O.o But yeah you were right about not needing a vacuum seal.
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You can claim your vendor bond back, once you have fulfilled the certain requirements, dont worry about that as you are not set up yet, but go scroll down to end of your silkroad page select support then click the link to FAQ.
Its up to date and i recommend you should spend some time there reading it.
As all should do. !
Buyers or vendors alike, its subject to change at any time!.
Regards UK Stealth.
Hi mate, Yes i have read it before, none the less im sure i will go through it a few more times before officialy making the jump.
I was meaning , Is there some rule about having to link to your page in order to get it back. (i would be anyway)
Cheers Uk :) Helpfull as always.
Cheers all, Brilliant thread, so glad i started it.