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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: StExo on June 06, 2013, 04:30 pm

Title: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: StExo on June 06, 2013, 04:30 pm
Is you do not talk about Silk Road - especially when you're at work or in public.

For the two absolute idiots I overheard talking about SilkRoad, let this be your only warning. I was on the other side of the counter away from you, you work in Subway as one of you served my lunch and I could clearly hear you discussing what you bought and browsed recently including some tabs from jesusofrave and a gram of something from FrankMatthews, you also said that you can say to the vendors here it hasn't arrived when it does, do not be the idiots who bring this place down from honest, hard working vendors who spend inordinate amounts of time and money making sure your packages arrive safely for your protection, not just theirs.

This taken place in the last few days (I didn't want to immediately post but I had to get this off my chest) and can't lead back to me for anyone concerned, I'm not that careless :) and I'm hoping this isn't what most of you guys do. But after my sticky in this sub-forum, I would have thought people would be more cautious from now on.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 06, 2013, 04:50 pm
Is you do not talk about Silk Road - especially when you're at work or in public.

For the two absolute idiots I overheard talking about SilkRoad, let this be your only warning. I was on the other side of the counter away from you, you work in Subway as one of you served my lunch and I could clearly hear you discussing what you bought and browsed recently including some tabs from jesusofrave and a gram of something from FrankMatthews, you also said that you can say to the vendors here it hasn't arrived when it does, do not be the idiots who bring this place down from honest, hard working vendors who spend inordinate amounts of time and money making sure your packages arrive safely for your protection, not just theirs.

This taken place in the last few days (I didn't want to immediately post but I had to get this off my chest) and can't lead back to me for anyone concerned, I'm not that careless :) and I'm hoping this isn't what most of you guys do. But after my sticky in this sub-forum, I would have thought people would be more cautious from now on.


Loose lips sink ships everytime.  I ran into some fools discussing SR on instagram, I quickly shut them up with a simple, "this is not the place to discuss this".  I think I would get really pissed if I ran into your type of situation, or maybe I would just do my best to hush their foolish talk!

P.S. To all of you loose lips, please tighten it up before u sink us all.  Thanks
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: Dutch81 on June 06, 2013, 04:55 pm
+1 for the things said above me.
Not cool at speaking in public about scamming a vendor.
Especially one who is a Dutchie to.  >:(
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: ronswanson77 on June 06, 2013, 05:02 pm
In my time on the road I've never heard anyone speak about it in public.  In fact anytime I've ever mentioned it to anyone (which is rare and I never actually speak of using the site) it's always been a complete shock.  It must be the part of the world I live in.  People are a bit more sheltered here I guess.

Just to reiterate, I never speak to anyone about actually using or buying anything off of SR.  Doing so in a public place where numerous people can hear you is ridiculous.  And bragging about how you can spam vendors is just wrong.

People are idiots.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: StExo on June 06, 2013, 05:05 pm
Unfortunately I can't take the risk of being associated with SilkRoad otherwise the plausible risk goes up ten fold.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: theonlygemgem on June 06, 2013, 05:12 pm
People take SR for granted. In the real world if I were to talk about a RL dealer and spread his name around, I'd have my legs broken.

In the UK it is reported on in the news fairly regularly, and a certain British musician was tweeting about the road recently to his quarter of a million followers.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: StExo on June 06, 2013, 05:59 pm
People take SR for granted. In the real world if I were to talk about a RL dealer and spread his name around, I'd have my legs broken.

You must have a friendly dealer.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: hemolyzer on June 06, 2013, 06:34 pm
Out of curiosity the other day I searched #mdma on Tumblr and there are all these teenage idiots posting pictures of the molly they just bought on Silk Road. Like with IRL pictures of themselves holding tabs or posting vendor pictures. Fucking idiots.

Edit: Wow, I know it's Tumblr so the bar is set pretty low but look at this dumbass:

***CLEARNET***
http://myladyheroineee.tumblr.com/post/52107529214/holy-fucking-yes
http://myladyheroineee.tumblr.com/post/52002287588/our-order-listttttttt-d
***CLEARNET***

Posting pics of her order history with vendor names and everything. Fucking unbelievable.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: theonlygemgem on June 06, 2013, 06:38 pm
You must have a friendly dealer.

He's alright really, just a little stabby  ;D
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: Duckman on June 06, 2013, 06:44 pm
If no one ever spoke about silk road, none of us would be here now.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: StExo on June 06, 2013, 08:12 pm
Out of curiosity the other day I searched #mdma on Tumblr and there are all these teenage idiots posting pictures of the molly they just bought on Silk Road. Like with IRL pictures of themselves holding tabs or posting vendor pictures. Fucking idiots.

Edit: Wow, I know it's Tumblr so the bar is set pretty low but look at this dumbass:

***CLEARNET***
http://myladyheroineee.tumblr.com/post/52107529214/holy-fucking-yes
http://myladyheroineee.tumblr.com/post/52002287588/our-order-listttttttt-d
***CLEARNET***

Posting pics of her order history with vendor names and everything. Fucking unbelievable.

Might send her something myself to give her a wake up call for her stupidity.


If no one ever spoke about silk road, none of us would be here now.

That's not the point, this was in a public place, whilst at work. Maybe in an anonymous internet forum or to a trustworthy friend, but at work in front of people is just plain stupidity.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 06, 2013, 08:48 pm
You should have ordered a dozen subs at that point and said "yeah, these subs are free today buddy, unless you want me to head on over to the sheriff's office and let them know about your little presents coming in the mail you scamming motherfucker" before he rang it up.  Then left with your dozen subs.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: Duckman on June 06, 2013, 09:56 pm

That's not the point, this was in a public place, whilst at work. Maybe in an anonymous internet forum or to a trustworthy friend, but at work in front of people is just plain stupidity.

Obviously I don't like the fact that they were trying to scam vendors, but I honestly don't see why it matters if they talk about SR in public.  SR has thousands of members, it has appeared in many newspaper articles, it has appeared on the news on the TV, it cannot possibly be considered to be a secret anymore.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 06, 2013, 09:59 pm

That's not the point, this was in a public place, whilst at work. Maybe in an anonymous internet forum or to a trustworthy friend, but at work in front of people is just plain stupidity.

Obviously I don't like the fact that they were trying to scam vendors, but I honestly don't see why it matters if they talk about SR in public.  SR has thousands of members, it has appeared in many newspaper articles, it has appeared on the news on the TV, it cannot possibly be considered to be a secret anymore.

Yeah, I don't see what's wrong with confessing to multiple federal felonies in public either, especially when you still have orders on the way. ::)
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: Duckman on June 06, 2013, 10:03 pm

That's not the point, this was in a public place, whilst at work. Maybe in an anonymous internet forum or to a trustworthy friend, but at work in front of people is just plain stupidity.

Obviously I don't like the fact that they were trying to scam vendors, but I honestly don't see why it matters if they talk about SR in public.  SR has thousands of members, it has appeared in many newspaper articles, it has appeared on the news on the TV, it cannot possibly be considered to be a secret anymore.

Yeah, I don't see what's wrong with confessing to multiple federal felonies in public either, especially when you still have orders on the way. ::)

I don't see how this effects you, or me, or the OP?  If they want to take that chance then why is it any of our business?
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 06, 2013, 10:21 pm

That's not the point, this was in a public place, whilst at work. Maybe in an anonymous internet forum or to a trustworthy friend, but at work in front of people is just plain stupidity.

Obviously I don't like the fact that they were trying to scam vendors, but I honestly don't see why it matters if they talk about SR in public.  SR has thousands of members, it has appeared in many newspaper articles, it has appeared on the news on the TV, it cannot possibly be considered to be a secret anymore.

Yeah, I don't see what's wrong with confessing to multiple federal felonies in public either, especially when you still have orders on the way. ::)

I don't see how this effects you, or me, or the OP?  If they want to take that chance then why is it any of our business?

Cause it all effects the rest of the community dude!
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: Duckman on June 06, 2013, 10:34 pm

That's not the point, this was in a public place, whilst at work. Maybe in an anonymous internet forum or to a trustworthy friend, but at work in front of people is just plain stupidity.

Obviously I don't like the fact that they were trying to scam vendors, but I honestly don't see why it matters if they talk about SR in public.  SR has thousands of members, it has appeared in many newspaper articles, it has appeared on the news on the TV, it cannot possibly be considered to be a secret anymore.

Yeah, I don't see what's wrong with confessing to multiple federal felonies in public either, especially when you still have orders on the way. ::)

I don't see how this effects you, or me, or the OP?  If they want to take that chance then why is it any of our business?

Cause it all effects the rest of the community dude!

How does it effect us?

The governments already know about SR and they know that right now there isnt much they can do.. but I know for a fact that the UK government is planning a crackdown in the next 5 years or so.  The reason they can't do anything right now is its difficult to check every single thing sent in the mail but they are working on that.  The Royal Mail is being sold off in the next couple of years and one of the key targets they will be setting for its new buyer is the detection of drugs being sent in via the postal service.  The wheels are in motion, the necessary equipment is being designed but it will take a few years before its rolled out.  SR and SR like sites have been identified as a problem and it is being dealt with.  If the UK manages to scan all of their mail then the US will almost certainly follow suit.

The issue for governments isn't a lack of funding its also the the equipment doesn't really exist right now.. its being developed.  The UK government has taken out contracts with several manufacturers to design this stuff. 

SR is not a secret so people talking about it dosent effect us.  It will come to an end but that's not likely to happen for at least 5 years.. maybe 10 but beyond that its over I'm afraid.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: frankmacca on June 06, 2013, 10:56 pm
I honestly doubt that drugs being shipped via mail will come to an end within 5-10 years.

It has, and always will be a balance between high profile seizures and expense.

The war on drugs is a PR war. As long as it LOOKS as if LE is doing something, they are.

Online shopping is increasing exponentially at a higher rate all around. Are federal postal services going to spend countless $$ and at the same time hamper a lucrative income stream?

Maybe I'm just idealistic, but either way, I'm not worried
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: Duckman on June 06, 2013, 11:04 pm
I honestly doubt that drugs being shipped via mail will come to an end within 5-10 years.

It has, and always will be a balance between high profile seizures and expense.

The war on drugs is a PR war. As long as it LOOKS as if LE is doing something, they are.

Online shopping is increasing exponentially at a higher rate all around. Are federal postal services going to spend countless $$ and at the same time hamper a lucrative income stream?

Maybe I'm just idealistic, but either way, I'm not worried

This is why the equipment will take years to develop.  Its not going to be like in the airport where some guy sits in a chair as the envelopes go past on a conveyer belt.  We are looking at some kind of automated computer type thing, along the lines of the new facial recognition software that's actually just starting to come out. 

The key thing in the UK is the selling off of the Royal Mail.  As soon as its out of government control, the government can then jump all over it.  Right now if they set unrealistic targets and they don't achieve them then the government just looks silly, but if it moves into private hands they can set unrealistic targets and then fine them if they don't meet them.  I that is going to be the turning point, when the RM gets sold off.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 06, 2013, 11:06 pm

That's not the point, this was in a public place, whilst at work. Maybe in an anonymous internet forum or to a trustworthy friend, but at work in front of people is just plain stupidity.

Obviously I don't like the fact that they were trying to scam vendors, but I honestly don't see why it matters if they talk about SR in public.  SR has thousands of members, it has appeared in many newspaper articles, it has appeared on the news on the TV, it cannot possibly be considered to be a secret anymore.

Yeah, I don't see what's wrong with confessing to multiple federal felonies in public either, especially when you still have orders on the way. ::)

I don't see how this effects you, or me, or the OP?  If they want to take that chance then why is it any of our business?

Cause it all effects the rest of the community dude!

How does it effect us?

The governments already know about SR and they know that right now there isnt much they can do.. but I know for a fact that the UK government is planning a crackdown in the next 5 years or so.  The reason they can't do anything right now is its difficult to check every single thing sent in the mail but they are working on that.  The Royal Mail is being sold off in the next couple of years and one of the key targets they will be setting for its new buyer is the detection of drugs being sent in via the postal service.  The wheels are in motion, the necessary equipment is being designed but it will take a few years before its rolled out.  SR and SR like sites have been identified as a problem and it is being dealt with.  If the UK manages to scan all of their mail then the US will almost certainly follow suit.

The issue for governments isn't a lack of funding its also the the equipment doesn't really exist right now.. its being developed.  The UK government has taken out contracts with several manufacturers to design this stuff. 

SR is not a secret so people talking about it dosent effect us.  It will come to an end but that's not likely to happen for at least 5 years.. maybe 10 but beyond that its over I'm afraid.

SR has been I.D.'d because people are talking too much, how do you not recognize this?  Word of mouth is a very powerful tool, it's how all great secrets get exposed.  As all of the talk gets more and more SR will have to get better and better at updating its overall security.

I want to add that it's a good thing to eventually spread SR to as many people as possible, because that is how it will stay safe, but first people need to be educated and the years of brainwashing about drugs needs to be wiped away.  This takes time!  It makes no sense sharing SR with people in the public who aren't ready for it.  Like all great revolutions it takes time to change the minds and hearts of the people.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: Duckman on June 06, 2013, 11:10 pm

That's not the point, this was in a public place, whilst at work. Maybe in an anonymous internet forum or to a trustworthy friend, but at work in front of people is just plain stupidity.

Obviously I don't like the fact that they were trying to scam vendors, but I honestly don't see why it matters if they talk about SR in public.  SR has thousands of members, it has appeared in many newspaper articles, it has appeared on the news on the TV, it cannot possibly be considered to be a secret anymore.

Yeah, I don't see what's wrong with confessing to multiple federal felonies in public either, especially when you still have orders on the way. ::)

I don't see how this effects you, or me, or the OP?  If they want to take that chance then why is it any of our business?

Cause it all effects the rest of the community dude!

How does it effect us?

The governments already know about SR and they know that right now there isnt much they can do.. but I know for a fact that the UK government is planning a crackdown in the next 5 years or so.  The reason they can't do anything right now is its difficult to check every single thing sent in the mail but they are working on that.  The Royal Mail is being sold off in the next couple of years and one of the key targets they will be setting for its new buyer is the detection of drugs being sent in via the postal service.  The wheels are in motion, the necessary equipment is being designed but it will take a few years before its rolled out.  SR and SR like sites have been identified as a problem and it is being dealt with.  If the UK manages to scan all of their mail then the US will almost certainly follow suit.

The issue for governments isn't a lack of funding its also the the equipment doesn't really exist right now.. its being developed.  The UK government has taken out contracts with several manufacturers to design this stuff. 

SR is not a secret so people talking about it dosent effect us.  It will come to an end but that's not likely to happen for at least 5 years.. maybe 10 but beyond that its over I'm afraid.

SR has been I.D.'d because people are talking too much, how do you not recognize this?  Word of mouth is a very powerful tool, it's how all great secrets get exposed.  As all of the talk gets more and more SR will have to get better and better at updating its overall security.

I want to add that it's a good thing to eventually spread SR to as many people as possible, because that is how it will stay safe, but first people need to be educated and the years of brainwashing about drugs needs to be wiped away.  This takes time!  It makes no sense sharing SR with people in the public who aren't ready for it.  Like all great revolutions it takes time to change the mind and hearts of the people.

Its already been ID'd and targets have been set.  Talk, dont talk, it no longer matters.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 06, 2013, 11:18 pm
You think it doesn't matter, It absolutely does!  You don't surrender to LE just because they are on your tail.  You fight for what you believe in till you can't fight anymore!
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: Convalescent on June 07, 2013, 01:36 am
Haha, well put Smashmouth.

Although the gov is well aware the biggest problem is what's mentioned above.

Right now SR is a known factor in the giant war on drugs. It's not as big as the cartels, it isn't violent but it still raises reason for concern. All it takes is a few exaggerated news stories and LE will be forced to act. Like another member said, the war on drugs is more publicity than anything.

The less SR is spread around the longer you glean the benefits from all its services. It's a selfish and perfectly sensible way to handle it.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: The-Truth on June 07, 2013, 01:47 am
Go old school every is to quick to reveal info - I would prefer to act stupid regarding SR
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: Parabolic45 on June 07, 2013, 03:33 am
Just my two cents here; SR may be very well known to LE. Regardless, we are here and we are doing what we are doing right now as they know about it, and thats powerful. This is a game of cat and mouse. They catch up, we run away, etc etc. I think that someday they may have enough knowledge/money/power to take out SR but then we (the mice) will come up with something new...thats how its been throughout history. thats how we all gathered here on SR.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: Baraka on June 07, 2013, 08:55 am
Exactly. As long as people want it, they'll be able to get it. The same goes for people selling. If they can make money at it, they'll keep on doing it. Prohibition has made prices many times higher than they would be if everything were legal. If anything this is what guarantees that drugs will continue to be sent through the mail. Well that and the fact that so many politician fucks are on the take and either receive drug money directly, or indirectly through money laundering. SR will come under attack countless more times and people will be busted on the rare occasion. But it'll go on while most of the people conducting business here will continue to do the same. Sorry for my optimism  ;)

I honestly doubt that drugs being shipped via mail will come to an end within 5-10 years.

It has, and always will be a balance between high profile seizures and expense.

The war on drugs is a PR war. As long as it LOOKS as if LE is doing something, they are.

Online shopping is increasing exponentially at a higher rate all around. Are federal postal services going to spend countless $$ and at the same time hamper a lucrative income stream?

Maybe I'm just idealistic, but either way, I'm not worried
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: BlackIris on June 07, 2013, 11:26 am
For the two absolute idiots I overheard talking about SilkRoad, let this be your only warning. I was on the other side of the counter away from you, you work in Subway as one of you served my lunch and I could clearly hear you discussing what you bought and browsed recently including some tabs from jesusofrave and a gram of something from FrankMatthews, you also said that you can say to the vendors here it hasn't arrived when it does, do not be the idiots who bring this place down from honest, hard working vendors who spend inordinate amounts of time and money making sure your packages arrive safely for your protection, not just theirs.

What a bunch of assholes without dignity (that's even worse than being assholes).

Assholes because you never should talk about SR in public, and without dignity because they even wanted to scam the vendor.
Absolute scumbags, you really don't deserve to be here (and now give -karma, there's no problem; bad karma for the likes of you it's a compliment).

Go somewhere else, you are really not welcomed in a place where people want to buy and sell in an honest manner without being greedy and scam people. If you want to brag about your silliness you can without problems create the usual fables on how much you can bang in a single night, it's not that anybody does believe it anyway.
Title: Re: The First Rule of Silk Road
Post by: CaptainSnowFlakes on June 07, 2013, 11:57 am
It is stupid for the individual to speak about it in public as it could potentially draw unwanted attention on that person. But, as long as the vendors that they buy from are safe and all of us are I welcome everyone to talk about it if they want to get caught. It brings more people here, helps to make it even harder for LE to come after me when there are blatantly retarded people that they will get first. More people make me more anonymous I feel.