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Title: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: TheIllusiveDeus on June 01, 2013, 11:14 pm
Every time I surf through these forums I giggle a little bit at the irony of life. 95% of all people think that we are hardened criminals, using what ever we can to get drugs. The general population would speak out against us buying acid and heroin, because it "ruins peoples lives". But every time I go through these forums I just see the nicest people saying the nicest things to each other. Everyone is trying to help everyone else out and its just kinda beautiful. Nobody cares if your 90 or even if you 16, nobody cares that you are black or white, nobody cares that you do drugs, nobody cares... and its kinda fuckin nice. I love how this site is just a big fuck you to the government, it just screams I can live my own life and I can do what I want.  I've only been around for a little while (just made my second order) but i'm in love with this place. Thank you guys so much for going through all these hoops to make me a happier person. stay safe and if anyone needs help with anything PM me and I'll help you to my fullest extent.   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: gtgeorgz on June 01, 2013, 11:19 pm
Love this, +1
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Limetless on June 01, 2013, 11:22 pm
I thought a hardened criminal was a thief with a boner.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: ChemCat on June 01, 2013, 11:31 pm
The Love in this Room ~~~>http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=65125.0 right here amazes me  :)
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Hazey on June 01, 2013, 11:38 pm
awww,im feeeeling the luuuurrrv 8)
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: boosties on June 01, 2013, 11:45 pm
yep and usually the people preaching about how bad certain drugs like lsd etc.. are,
are the same ones all hopped on prescription meds that are fine because some asshole
doctor told you to take them for the rest of your life. and that makes sense!!
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: StExo on June 02, 2013, 03:40 am
I thought a hardened criminal was a thief with a boner.

You go to some weird clubs Lim.


Every time I surf through these forums I giggle a little bit at the irony of life. 95% of all people think that we are hardened criminals, using what ever we can to get drugs. The general population would speak out against us buying acid and heroin, because it "ruins peoples lives". But every time I go through these forums I just see the nicest people saying the nicest things to each other. Everyone is trying to help everyone else out and its just kinda beautiful. Nobody cares if your 90 or even if you 16, nobody cares that you are black or white, nobody cares that you do drugs, nobody cares... and its kinda fuckin nice. I love how this site is just a big fuck you to the government, it just screams I can live my own life and I can do what I want.  I've only been around for a little while (just made my second order) but i'm in love with this place. Thank you guys so much for going through all these hoops to make me a happier person. stay safe and if anyone needs help with anything PM me and I'll help you to my fullest extent.   :D :D :D

I think we need to distinguish between the type of people here. Many here are drug users who have a higher IQ than most street guys so generally we can be civil, no paranoia that the police are staring at you, it could be a setup meeting a dealer or crap like that. Vendors want to also be nice to their customer. This place just seems nice because we are all more relaxed in the community and indeed it does show a different face to the trade.

But this doesn't mean hardened criminals aren't here, but even that definition in itself would be difficult to put into words. I launder dirty cash for several drug groups, I'm in the MDMA wholesale market locally, I'm moving into mephedrone from Limetless once we've tested his sample out and I have 20-30 people working under me, although most of them don't know me, they just know a name and they know to fear that name and not to question it because fear is the only way to ensure people don't talk to police or screw around. Would that make me a hardened criminal? I'm not a violent person, but if somebody tried to endanger my operation, I do what all the bosses do, and just give an order. It's not personal, it's business. Until people stop screwing around and being thieving bastards, the streets will always be violent to ensure order is maintained.

Here. I have no reason to be violent, provocative, make people try to fear me etc because there is no need and it wouldn't work so what would be the point when instead I can sit down with a nice cup of tea and have a friendly chat with some like-minded people :)?
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: boosties on June 02, 2013, 03:47 am
^^^^amen to that!
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: streetelitist on June 02, 2013, 03:59 am


I think we need to distinguish between the type of people here. Many here are drug users who have a higher IQ than most street guys so generally we can be civil, no paranoia that the police are staring at you, it could be a setup meeting a dealer or crap like that. Vendors want to also be nice to their customer. This place just seems nice because we are all more relaxed in the community and indeed it does show a different face to the trade.

But this doesn't mean hardened criminals aren't here, but even that definition in itself would be difficult to put into words. I launder dirty cash for several drug groups, I'm in the MDMA wholesale market locally, I'm moving into mephedrone from Limetless once we've tested his sample out and I have 20-30 people working under me, although most of them don't know me, they just know a name and they know to fear that name and not to question it because fear is the only way to ensure people don't talk to police or screw around. Would that make me a hardened criminal? I'm not a violent person, but if somebody tried to endanger my operation, I do what all the bosses do, and just give an order. It's not personal, it's business. Until people stop screwing around and being thieving bastards, the streets will always be violent to ensure order is maintained.

Here. I have no reason to be violent, provocative, make people try to fear me etc because there is no need and it wouldn't work so what would be the point when instead I can sit down with a nice cup of tea and have a friendly chat with some like-minded people :)?

I love the fact that I can communicate with big time drug dealers and say things like "YOU'RE GAY StExo!!!" without the fear of having my head chopped off. Haha, just kidding, but it is pretty crazy.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Rastaman Vibration on June 02, 2013, 04:33 am
But this doesn't mean hardened criminals aren't here, but even that definition in itself would be difficult to put into words. I launder dirty cash for several drug groups, I'm in the MDMA wholesale market locally, I'm moving into mephedrone from Limetless once we've tested his sample out and I have 20-30 people working under me, although most of them don't know me, they just know a name and they know to fear that name and not to question it because fear is the only way to ensure people don't talk to police or screw around. Would that make me a hardened criminal? I'm not a violent person, but if somebody tried to endanger my operation, I do what all the bosses do, and just give an order. It's not personal, it's business. Until people stop screwing around and being thieving bastards, the streets will always be violent to ensure order is maintained.

Here. I have no reason to be violent, provocative, make people try to fear me etc because there is no need and it wouldn't work so what would be the point when instead I can sit down with a nice cup of tea and have a friendly chat with some like-minded people :)?

Love it! +1
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: oldtoby on June 02, 2013, 05:38 am
Yup. It's a shame we're all outlaws - I'd enjoy grabbing a stout with some forum folk sometime. Interesting people.

I've said before and will say again: if for some reason I stop using the Road itself, I'll probably still be here for the conversation.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Fours222 on June 02, 2013, 07:12 am
+1 karma, nice thoughts  :-*
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: QuarterBaked on June 02, 2013, 09:45 am
I thought a hardened criminal was a thief with a boner.

hahahahahaha, made me spit out my drink through my nose!!
+1
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: ShamelessHarvey on June 02, 2013, 12:53 pm
Proud to be hanging out with all of you filthy fucking scumbags. Each one a peach.

Silk road. The Mos Eisley of the Deepweb.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 02, 2013, 01:56 pm
Spread the love!
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: StExo on June 02, 2013, 02:12 pm
I love the fact that I can communicate with big time drug dealers and say things like "YOU'RE GAY StExo!!!" without the fear of having my head chopped off. Haha, just kidding, but it is pretty crazy.

Chopping a head isn't how to scare people, you've got to sound a bit more psychotic if you need to send a message. Using a small knife to do the job slowly means it really sticks in the mind of your enemies.

But as I said, I'm not bothered :) Some of the best parts of the forum are the disagreements too, it's quite enlightening to listen and argue to others.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: ChemCat on June 02, 2013, 02:50 pm
Nooooo....   ::)

ya scare someone by hanging them upside down in your basement...sparay them with sugar water and then lower them onto a fire ant mound (which you should have in your basement)

Now while the fire ants are munching on them....ya just sit down and watch ...the whole while you're smirking....
you slowly lift them from the fire ant mound ..spray them off with a hose...then smile and tell the person next time you will just feed the fire ants into their orafice openings  :)

at least that's what we used to do in 1952   :o
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: PsychedelicSphere on June 02, 2013, 09:59 pm
In a country where we make everything illegal, the average US citizen does 3 felonies a day, aren't we all hardened criminals?

But yes, I love how the government can't do shit about this place.

Hi my names *****, I do drugs and yes, if you come close enough I will stab you and rape your dead body. Ummmm, no I'm actually a well educated person who holds a steady job and provides for myself. (no family to provide for yet :D )

~PsychedelicSphere
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Deutsche Bank on June 02, 2013, 10:12 pm
I think the Silk Road forums are proof that we aren't that bad as the mass media wants us to be.

I love you guys  :-*
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: QuarterBaked on June 02, 2013, 10:15 pm
hahahahha my mate just got a ticket today for jay-walking and almost cried. he's 25 fucking years old xD first misdemeanor he was caught red handed for :') he's not on SR, but that's what I suppose the average "hardened criminal" on here is like ;D
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: PsychedelicSphere on June 02, 2013, 10:15 pm
I think the Silk Road forums are proof that we aren't that bad as the mass media wants us to be.

I love you guys  :-*

+1 for showing the love  8)

~PsychedelicSphere
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Hazey on June 02, 2013, 11:15 pm
I thought a hardened criminal was a thief with a boner.

You go to some weird clubs Lim.


Every time I surf through these forums I giggle a little bit at the irony of life. 95% of all people think that we are hardened criminals, using what ever we can to get drugs. The general population would speak out against us buying acid and heroin, because it "ruins peoples lives". But every time I go through these forums I just see the nicest people saying the nicest things to each other. Everyone is trying to help everyone else out and its just kinda beautiful. Nobody cares if your 90 or even if you 16, nobody cares that you are black or white, nobody cares that you do drugs, nobody cares... and its kinda fuckin nice. I love how this site is just a big fuck you to the government, it just screams I can live my own life and I can do what I want.  I've only been around for a little while (just made my second order) but i'm in love with this place. Thank you guys so much for going through all these hoops to make me a happier person. stay safe and if anyone needs help with anything PM me and I'll help you to my fullest extent.   :D :D :D

I think we need to distinguish between the type of people here. Many here are drug users who have a higher IQ than most street guys so generally we can be civil, no paranoia that the police are staring at you, it could be a setup meeting a dealer or crap like that. Vendors want to also be nice to their customer. This place just seems nice because we are all more relaxed in the community and indeed it does show a different face to the trade.

But this doesn't mean hardened criminals aren't here, but even that definition in itself would be difficult to put into words. I launder dirty cash for several drug groups, I'm in the MDMA wholesale market locally, I'm moving into mephedrone from Limetless once we've tested his sample out and I have 20-30 people working under me, although most of them don't know me, they just know a name and they know to fear that name and not to question it because fear is the only way to ensure people don't talk to police or screw around. Would that make me a hardened criminal? I'm not a violent person, but if somebody tried to endanger my operation, I do what all the bosses do, and just give an order. It's not personal, it's business. Until people stop screwing around and being thieving bastards, the streets will always be violent to ensure order is maintained.

Here. I have no reason to be violent, provocative, make people try to fear me etc because there is no need and it wouldn't work so what would be the point when instead I can sit down with a nice cup of tea and have a friendly chat with some like-minded people :)?

hah str8 up,buisness is buisness,dont judge a person by it ;)
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Hazey on June 03, 2013, 10:30 pm
Proud to be hanging out with all of you filthy fucking scumbags. Each one a peach.

Silk road. The Mos Eisley of the Deepweb.

hear ye hear ye!
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Revolutionista on June 03, 2013, 11:22 pm
Call me an arrogant prick for saying this but the slight intelligence required to run tor and further to purchase bitcoins does seem to get rid of the riff raff. Its quite clear theres a strong underlying intelligentsia in the chemical ingesting nation
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: touchthesky on June 04, 2013, 12:38 am
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Nooooo....   ::)

ya scare someone by hanging them upside down in your basement...sparay them with sugar water and then lower them onto a fire ant mound (which you should have in your basement)

Now while the fire ants are munching on them....ya just sit down and watch ...the whole while you're smirking....
you slowly lift them from the fire ant mound ..spray them off with a hose...then smile and tell the person next time you will just feed the fire ants into their orafice openings  :)

at least that's what we used to do in 1952   :o

gonna take a leaf out of your book on that one ChemCat! sounds ingenious!

and I think at the end of the day when ANYONE fucks with ANYONE else's business they should know that there will be consequences.

The guberment can say we kill for the money. What do they do? Oh you haven't paid your taxes. JAIL. Oh you didn't pay a speeding fine. JAIL. Get raped, get into drugs, learn to use your Butt to hide things, then when you come out we're going to label you a "hardened" criminal

I mean the Italian Mob was called a MOB. They are WISE GUYS. I met a few when I was very young. You could meet these guys and not for one second think they were "hardened criminals". They were the nicest, most educated, refined men and women I've met in my life. To the point where women would still bow and courtesy for the men and men would take off their hats and courtesy for women. It felt like living in an old movie

Society makes "hardened criminals". I'll be honest, I used to think every guy who did heroin was a lost cunt, beyond help and just ruined their lives. Then I came here and saw reviews for proper clean heroin from regular users and they seem no different to you and I.

Fucking guberment cuts shit up, supplies drugs, makes it about the money, breeds criminals but then conveniently shifts the blame and no one asks questions.

Australia has an "ice epidemic" you should see the ads they put out for Ice. Go to the Australian gov site and read what they say about Marijuana. People accepting their word like it's the Bible. Ridiculous

Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 04, 2013, 01:00 am
You scare someone by simply implementing fear into their minds and then letting it fester and breed more fear!
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Tyrion Lannister on June 04, 2013, 01:04 am
StExo, do you mind an interview with me someday? i would love to hear your stories..
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: QuarterBaked on June 04, 2013, 06:06 am
Call me an arrogant prick for saying this but the slight intelligence required to run tor and further to purchase bitcoins does seem to get rid of the riff raff. Its quite clear theres a strong underlying intelligentsia in the chemical ingesting nation

honestly I think that just stops old people from getting on the road... pretty sure anyone who's aware of the existence of a little thing called google would have no trouble whatsoever getting here and buying stuff. hell, some of the first btc I acquired were from ebay xD
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: StExo on June 04, 2013, 10:48 pm
StExo, do you mind an interview with me someday? i would love to hear your stories..

You'll be in a queue, I've been asked for interviews by a few people in recent days given my project and the attention it raised.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Tyrion Lannister on June 05, 2013, 12:17 am
StExo, do you mind an interview with me someday? i would love to hear your stories..

You'll be in a queue, I've been asked for interviews by a few people in recent days given my project and the attention it raised.

Oh, ok. I'm just a curious guy, live a normal life and have a normal job, but can't stop thinking in enter the drug scene in my country ( actually you can't find good drugs here, just expensive shit, even having almost useless LE)

anyway, i'll talk to you other day.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: StExo on June 05, 2013, 03:19 am
Oh, ok. I'm just a curious guy, live a normal life and have a normal job, but can't stop thinking in enter the drug scene in my country ( actually you can't find good drugs here, just expensive shit, even having almost useless LE)

anyway, i'll talk to you other day.

If you want to reach my level, you need to have balls, wit, a good poker face and dinner manners. I shit you not, the last of those is rather important.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: touchthesky on June 05, 2013, 05:32 am
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If you want to reach my level, you need to have balls, wit, a good poker face and dinner manners. I shit you not, the last of those is rather important.

Dinner manners. hahahah good laugh. I was about to log off but just wanted to ask

May I be excused?
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: dabigboss on June 05, 2013, 05:44 am
Big time drug dealer supplier or college pothead, it makes no difference.  Life's a titty, and we're all just trying to cop a feel.  8)
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: acidicmonkey on June 09, 2013, 04:42 am
This community embraces all of its members. I was drawn to SR from the moment I created my account. I cant wait to get back to my computer to discuss my favorite pastime. The love is what makes SR so successful. We make SR what it is.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Herbalizer47 on June 09, 2013, 08:28 pm
It's not personal, it's business. Until people stop screwing around and being thieving bastards, the streets will always be violent to ensure order is maintained.

Here. I have no reason to be violent, provocative, make people try to fear me etc because there is no need and it wouldn't work so what would be the point when instead I can sit down with a nice cup of tea and have a friendly chat with some like-minded people :)?

Wow, I think you quite succinctly summed up one of the biggest reasons that the war on drugs is such a counterproductive clusterfuck. If drugs were legal, they wouldn't have to be associated with "real" crime like street violence, theft, and other unpleasantness. These things actually affect others' lives; an individual responsibly enjoying some mind-altering substances does not.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: StExo on June 13, 2013, 01:23 pm
It's not personal, it's business. Until people stop screwing around and being thieving bastards, the streets will always be violent to ensure order is maintained.

Here. I have no reason to be violent, provocative, make people try to fear me etc because there is no need and it wouldn't work so what would be the point when instead I can sit down with a nice cup of tea and have a friendly chat with some like-minded people :)?

Wow, I think you quite succinctly summed up one of the biggest reasons that the war on drugs is such a counterproductive clusterfuck. If drugs were legal, they wouldn't have to be associated with "real" crime like street violence, theft, and other unpleasantness. These things actually affect others' lives; an individual responsibly enjoying some mind-altering substances does not.

I actually in some way want them to remain illegal. Decriminalised would be a great go-between for me as it will still make the sale illegal buy won't prosecute buyers so will bring me more business - decriminalisation would put me out of business. I actually discussed that on the WeirderWeb article:
http://weirderweb.com/2013/06/10/ambition-has-no-rest-the-long-education-of-a-silk-road-money-launderer/#more-2603
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Oldschool on June 13, 2013, 03:57 pm
Being the boss or high up in a drug syndicate does makes you a dangerous person but to be a truly hard criminal you need to do your own dirty work. Far too much risk to have someone else know your secrets, what you have ordered people do, who you are, etc. For self preservation and longevity in the criminal world you will need to take it upon yourself to "fix" problems without another soul ever knowing you are connected. It can be quite easy if the problem is a junky, especially if they are a full junky who will inject drugs they found in their driveway in a bag on the floor. Or if you only want to talk to someone (in a firearm controlled country) who is screening calls and owes money etc what you do i wait until night time, turn of the power to the house in the meter box and wait. They will always come out, sometimes strait away, sometimes 15 minutes, but you will get to talk to them.

Thankfully most true hardened criminals are inconspicuous, hold regular jobs and blend in with normal society. Most would never know they passed an old school killer in the shopping center the other day as he purchased his bread and milk. Only those that have been there will notice small "tells" like the faded swallow tattoo, worn out knuckles, or the constant heightened situational awareness.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: StExo on June 14, 2013, 01:48 am
Being the boss or high up in a drug syndicate does makes you a dangerous person but to be a truly hard criminal you need to do your own dirty work. Far too much risk to have someone else know your secrets, what you have ordered people do, who you are, etc. For self preservation and longevity in the criminal world you will need to take it upon yourself to "fix" problems without another soul ever knowing you are connected. It can be quite easy if the problem is a junky, especially if they are a full junky who will inject drugs they found in their driveway in a bag on the floor. Or if you only want to talk to someone (in a firearm controlled country) who is screening calls and owes money etc what you do i wait until night time, turn of the power to the house in the meter box and wait. They will always come out, sometimes strait away, sometimes 15 minutes, but you will get to talk to them.

Thankfully most true hardened criminals are inconspicuous, hold regular jobs and blend in with normal society. Most would never know they passed an old school killer in the shopping center the other day as he purchased his bread and milk. Only those that have been there will notice small "tells" like the faded swallow tattoo, work out knuckles, or the constant heightened situational awareness.

The ability to do your own dirty work is a necessary skill - the leader of any group must be able to do any job he assigns or delegates to another person so he is not entirely reliant upon them to do it but rather sees it as a better way to do it if time is stretched. You definitely hit the nail on the head for the heightened sense of awareness though and is something I've seen these past few years. I can stand within inches watching a drug deal go by and they'd never notice I was onto them - now what if I was a cop? I think the awareness is part and parcel of being a higher ranking member or the boss as it isn't just the guy with the money or anything like that, but a whole spectrum  of skills to help you get by; awareness, mental calculations, trend spotting, understanding of human nature, self discipline, decisiveness, in-check ego etc. Not many are cut out to reach the higher echelons and the ones caught and on TV are often the ones who didn't have those skills and caught a lucky break or became greedy, a big violation of the self-discipline principle. Anyone who can't haul their ass out of bed 7 days a week at 5am and work the whole day straight with no slacking simply isn't cut out to lead.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: pitbully2000 on June 14, 2013, 01:50 am
yep and usually the people preaching about how bad certain drugs like lsd etc.. are,
are the same ones all hopped on prescription meds that are fine because some asshole
doctor told you to take them for the rest of your life. and that makes sense!!
I second that!!!
truer words have never been spoken..medical community fukked me out of 6 years of my LIFE!
nothin like that gettin some herbs :)
~PB2k
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: IamMulva on June 14, 2013, 11:40 am
Love it Thanks OP
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Razorspyne on June 14, 2013, 05:03 pm
Every time I surf through these forums I giggle a little bit at the irony of life. 95% of all people think that we are hardened criminals, using what ever we can to get drugs. The general population would speak out against us buying acid and heroin, because it "ruins peoples lives". But every time I go through these forums I just see the nicest people saying the nicest things to each other. Everyone is trying to help everyone else out and its just kinda beautiful. Nobody cares if your 90 or even if you 16, nobody cares that you are black or white, nobody cares that you do drugs, nobody cares... and its kinda fuckin nice. I love how this site is just a big fuck you to the government, it just screams I can live my own life and I can do what I want.  I've only been around for a little while (just made my second order) but i'm in love with this place. Thank you guys so much for going through all these hoops to make me a happier person. stay safe and if anyone needs help with anything PM me and I'll help you to my fullest extent.   :D :D :D

The irony is that is someone really were a hard as nails crim, they would not be on Silk Road forums, or at least not all day. We're not hardened criminals for knowing about Tor, just normal people with resourceful ways of obtaining drugs. Nothing hardcore about that at all, in fact, I am not even punching someone as I type this. I will disagree on the "nicest people saying nicest things" though, I have seen some pretty immature and derogatory material on the forums in the last several weeks that is suggestive of a lack of connections in crime and youth to boot from the posters, some of us are teens, some of us are junkies, and some of us are highly functioning people with carefully hidden addictions that certain circles of friends would not understand due to a narrow-minded media-imposed doctrine of intolerance. My advice is to avoid the shit-talkers and stick with the genuines. Great message OP, I find it quite encouraging! :) Happy trails with your future ordering on The Road, and remember that good, expert advice is always readily available to the right people.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: PrincessHIGH on June 14, 2013, 11:56 pm
Every time I surf through these forums I giggle a little bit at the irony of life. 95% of all people think that we are hardened criminals, using what ever we can to get drugs. The general population would speak out against us buying acid and heroin, because it "ruins peoples lives". But every time I go through these forums I just see the nicest people saying the nicest things to each other. Everyone is trying to help everyone else out and its just kinda beautiful. Nobody cares if your 90 or even if you 16, nobody cares that you are black or white, nobody cares that you do drugs, nobody cares... and its kinda fuckin nice. I love how this site is just a big fuck you to the government, it just screams I can live my own life and I can do what I want.  I've only been around for a little while (just made my second order) but i'm in love with this place. Thank you guys so much for going through all these hoops to make me a happier person. stay safe and if anyone needs help with anything PM me and I'll help you to my fullest extent.   :D :D :D

The irony is that is someone really were a hard as nails crim, they would not be on Silk Road forums, or at least not all day. We're not hardened criminals for knowing about Tor, just normal people with resourceful ways of obtaining drugs. Nothing hardcore about that at all, in fact, I am not even punching someone as I type this. I will disagree on the "nicest people saying nicest things" though, I have seen some pretty immature and derogatory material on the forums in the last several weeks that is suggestive of a lack of connections in crime and youth to boot from the posters, some of us are teens, some of us are junkies, and some of us are highly functioning people with carefully hidden addictions that certain circles of friends would not understand due to a narrow-minded media-imposed doctrine of intolerance. My advice is to avoid the shit-talkers and stick with the genuines. Great message OP, I find it quite encouraging! :) Happy trails with your future ordering on The Road, and remember that good, expert advice is always readily available to the right people.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Perfect post Raz, you took the words out of my mind. Fantastic post OP, I wish you happy travels ahead :)
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Razorspyne on June 16, 2013, 02:22 pm
Every time I surf through these forums I giggle a little bit at the irony of life. 95% of all people think that we are hardened criminals, using what ever we can to get drugs. The general population would speak out against us buying acid and heroin, because it "ruins peoples lives". But every time I go through these forums I just see the nicest people saying the nicest things to each other. Everyone is trying to help everyone else out and its just kinda beautiful. Nobody cares if your 90 or even if you 16, nobody cares that you are black or white, nobody cares that you do drugs, nobody cares... and its kinda fuckin nice. I love how this site is just a big fuck you to the government, it just screams I can live my own life and I can do what I want.  I've only been around for a little while (just made my second order) but i'm in love with this place. Thank you guys so much for going through all these hoops to make me a happier person. stay safe and if anyone needs help with anything PM me and I'll help you to my fullest extent.   :D :D :D

The irony is that is someone really were a hard as nails crim, they would not be on Silk Road forums, or at least not all day. We're not hardened criminals for knowing about Tor, just normal people with resourceful ways of obtaining drugs. Nothing hardcore about that at all, in fact, I am not even punching someone as I type this. I will disagree on the "nicest people saying nicest things" though, I have seen some pretty immature and derogatory material on the forums in the last several weeks that is suggestive of a lack of connections in crime and youth to boot from the posters, some of us are teens, some of us are junkies, and some of us are highly functioning people with carefully hidden addictions that certain circles of friends would not understand due to a narrow-minded media-imposed doctrine of intolerance. My advice is to avoid the shit-talkers and stick with the genuines. Great message OP, I find it quite encouraging! :) Happy trails with your future ordering on The Road, and remember that good, expert advice is always readily available to the right people.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Perfect post Raz, you took the words out of my mind. Fantastic post OP, I wish you happy travels ahead :)

Thank you Princess. :) Lol @ expression. ::) I'll swap you happy travels with happy trails.

Where did the OP go....

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on June 16, 2013, 02:37 pm
I think the Silk Road forums are proof that we aren't that bad as the mass media wants us to be.

I love you guys  :-*
But they don't report the good parts of Silk Road. You only ever heard about it when someone dies because they are retarded and eat 20 tabs of NBOMe and do crazy things, etc.
it's so negative. Silk Road would have to be the safest way to buy drugs in the present time. It just sucks how we have to live our lives as "criminals" because the Government says so. yet I can drink 1L of vodka a day and be on welfare and I'd have no legal problems.  :-X
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on June 16, 2013, 02:41 pm
Call me an arrogant prick for saying this but the slight intelligence required to run tor and further to purchase bitcoins does seem to get rid of the riff raff. Its quite clear theres a strong underlying intelligentsia in the chemical ingesting nation
Tor is pretty easy to figure out now though. If you saw some of the messages I got, you certainly wouldn't agree that all SR users are intelligent / educated.
The majority of people on here are, but there is still those who stand out from the crowd.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Razorspyne on June 16, 2013, 04:25 pm
Call me an arrogant prick for saying this but the slight intelligence required to run tor and further to purchase bitcoins does seem to get rid of the riff raff. Its quite clear theres a strong underlying intelligentsia in the chemical ingesting nation

Lol.... Erm.... no.... I see no evidence of that. I think I've proved that pretty damn convincingly just these last 2 weeks alone.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: RFTS on June 17, 2013, 04:46 am
Agreed so much, it's not what you would expect of an illicit drug market at all! The good vendors run like a business which is exactly what I think of this place as.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: astor on June 17, 2013, 04:59 am
The irony is that is someone really were a hard as nails crim, they would not be on Silk Road forums, or at least not all day. We're not hardened criminals for knowing about Tor, just normal people with resourceful ways of obtaining drugs. Nothing hardcore about that at all, in fact, I am not even punching someone as I type this. I will disagree on the "nicest people saying nicest things" though, I have seen some pretty immature and derogatory material on the forums in the last several weeks that is suggestive of a lack of connections in crime and youth to boot from the posters, some of us are teens, some of us are junkies, and some of us are highly functioning people with carefully hidden addictions that certain circles of friends would not understand due to a narrow-minded media-imposed doctrine of intolerance. My advice is to avoid the shit-talkers and stick with the genuines. Great message OP, I find it quite encouraging! :) Happy trails with your future ordering on The Road, and remember that good, expert advice is always readily available to the right people.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Perfect post Raz, you took the words out of my mind. Fantastic post OP, I wish you happy travels ahead :)

Do you two follow each other around the forum and cheerlead every comment the other person makes?

It is true though that the community has a dark side. There are the scammers, of course, but I've also seen a bunch of people post that they are suicidal. It seems that suicidal ideation, and probably other mental health issues, are overrepresented here.

Not surprising, really. Mental health issues increase the chances that someone takes drugs.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Razorspyne on June 19, 2013, 12:38 am
The irony is that is someone really were a hard as nails crim, they would not be on Silk Road forums, or at least not all day. We're not hardened criminals for knowing about Tor, just normal people with resourceful ways of obtaining drugs. Nothing hardcore about that at all, in fact, I am not even punching someone as I type this. I will disagree on the "nicest people saying nicest things" though, I have seen some pretty immature and derogatory material on the forums in the last several weeks that is suggestive of a lack of connections in crime and youth to boot from the posters, some of us are teens, some of us are junkies, and some of us are highly functioning people with carefully hidden addictions that certain circles of friends would not understand due to a narrow-minded media-imposed doctrine of intolerance. My advice is to avoid the shit-talkers and stick with the genuines. Great message OP, I find it quite encouraging! :) Happy trails with your future ordering on The Road, and remember that good, expert advice is always readily available to the right people.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Perfect post Raz, you took the words out of my mind. Fantastic post OP, I wish you happy travels ahead :)

Do you two follow each other around the forum and cheerlead every comment the other person makes?

It is true though that the community has a dark side. There are the scammers, of course, but I've also seen a bunch of people post that they are suicidal. It seems that suicidal ideation, and probably other mental health issues, are overrepresented here.

Not surprising, really. Mental health issues increase the chances that someone takes drugs.

Well, you seem to have some mental issues yourself, astor. Are you really following Princess and I around trying to find out if we are responding to each other's posts? You seem to be a bit starved for compliments astor, it is pretty depressing to watch you puppy-dog around on our heels astor. Find a hobby or get some help. You obviously need it pal.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: l33tn355 on June 19, 2013, 12:44 am
I've come to realize that the stereotypical "hardened criminal" are either too stupid to use SR or they think it's a giant scam/stupid concept that "you would have to be an idiot to order drugs on the internet" kind of deal. Most don't even think it's real.

I feel like SR is more of the home for the new age of internet people, for lack of a better term, and not your criminals and stereotypical bad guys.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: PrincessHIGH on June 19, 2013, 12:57 am
The irony is that is someone really were a hard as nails crim, they would not be on Silk Road forums, or at least not all day. We're not hardened criminals for knowing about Tor, just normal people with resourceful ways of obtaining drugs. Nothing hardcore about that at all, in fact, I am not even punching someone as I type this. I will disagree on the "nicest people saying nicest things" though, I have seen some pretty immature and derogatory material on the forums in the last several weeks that is suggestive of a lack of connections in crime and youth to boot from the posters, some of us are teens, some of us are junkies, and some of us are highly functioning people with carefully hidden addictions that certain circles of friends would not understand due to a narrow-minded media-imposed doctrine of intolerance. My advice is to avoid the shit-talkers and stick with the genuines. Great message OP, I find it quite encouraging! :) Happy trails with your future ordering on The Road, and remember that good, expert advice is always readily available to the right people.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Perfect post Raz, you took the words out of my mind. Fantastic post OP, I wish you happy travels ahead :)

Do you two follow each other around the forum and cheerlead every comment the other person makes?

It is true though that the community has a dark side. There are the scammers, of course, but I've also seen a bunch of people post that they are suicidal. It seems that suicidal ideation, and probably other mental health issues, are overrepresented here.

Not surprising, really. Mental health issues increase the chances that someone takes drugs.
What point you're trying to raise astor? What relevance does it bear to the subject of this thread? I do not 'cheerlead' every post Raz makes, however if he posts something I agree with I'll voice my support, I'll do the same with any member I concur with. When you agree with someone does it make you their cheerleader? I believe showing your support for someone or something you believe in is healthy and not 'mental', this is a wide and varied forum where we should respect the differentials of opinion than discrediting them.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Razorspyne on June 19, 2013, 01:05 am
I can't respond that post by PrincessHIGH b/c according to astor that is "cheerleading", as opposed to having a debate, but, on Silk Road forums astor there is a button called "Quote" that you can click to respond to someone. On this forum, if someone uses that function, they usually refer to what the other person quoted. This is called "responding", not "cheerleading".

This has been a Raz tutorial for SMF forums. I hope you will always come to me with your future FAQ questions. Are we done here? I don't need your permission to quote and respond astor.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: TheIllusiveDeus on June 19, 2013, 04:59 am
Every time I surf through these forums I giggle a little bit at the irony of life. 95% of all people think that we are hardened criminals, using what ever we can to get drugs. The general population would speak out against us buying acid and heroin, because it "ruins peoples lives". But every time I go through these forums I just see the nicest people saying the nicest things to each other. Everyone is trying to help everyone else out and its just kinda beautiful. Nobody cares if your 90 or even if you 16, nobody cares that you are black or white, nobody cares that you do drugs, nobody cares... and its kinda fuckin nice. I love how this site is just a big fuck you to the government, it just screams I can live my own life and I can do what I want.  I've only been around for a little while (just made my second order) but i'm in love with this place. Thank you guys so much for going through all these hoops to make me a happier person. stay safe and if anyone needs help with anything PM me and I'll help you to my fullest extent.   :D :D :D

The irony is that is someone really were a hard as nails crim, they would not be on Silk Road forums, or at least not all day. We're not hardened criminals for knowing about Tor, just normal people with resourceful ways of obtaining drugs. Nothing hardcore about that at all, in fact, I am not even punching someone as I type this. I will disagree on the "nicest people saying nicest things" though, I have seen some pretty immature and derogatory material on the forums in the last several weeks that is suggestive of a lack of connections in crime and youth to boot from the posters, some of us are teens, some of us are junkies, and some of us are highly functioning people with carefully hidden addictions that certain circles of friends would not understand due to a narrow-minded media-imposed doctrine of intolerance. My advice is to avoid the shit-talkers and stick with the genuines. Great message OP, I find it quite encouraging! :) Happy trails with your future ordering on The Road, and remember that good, expert advice is always readily available to the right people.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Perfect post Raz, you took the words out of my mind. Fantastic post OP, I wish you happy travels ahead :)

Thank you Princess. :) Lol @ expression. ::) I'll swap you happy travels with happy trails.

Where did the OP go....

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

I'm here, I'm here! I didn't expect this thread to blow up the way it did and so i stopped following it until i saw it again just a few minutes ago. I promise I haven't abandoned you guys!
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: TheIllusiveDeus on June 19, 2013, 05:07 am
The irony is that is someone really were a hard as nails crim, they would not be on Silk Road forums, or at least not all day. We're not hardened criminals for knowing about Tor, just normal people with resourceful ways of obtaining drugs. Nothing hardcore about that at all, in fact, I am not even punching someone as I type this. I will disagree on the "nicest people saying nicest things" though, I have seen some pretty immature and derogatory material on the forums in the last several weeks that is suggestive of a lack of connections in crime and youth to boot from the posters, some of us are teens, some of us are junkies, and some of us are highly functioning people with carefully hidden addictions that certain circles of friends would not understand due to a narrow-minded media-imposed doctrine of intolerance. My advice is to avoid the shit-talkers and stick with the genuines. Great message OP, I find it quite encouraging! :) Happy trails with your future ordering on The Road, and remember that good, expert advice is always readily available to the right people.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Perfect post Raz, you took the words out of my mind. Fantastic post OP, I wish you happy travels ahead :)

Do you two follow each other around the forum and cheerlead every comment the other person makes?

It is true though that the community has a dark side. There are the scammers, of course, but I've also seen a bunch of people post that they are suicidal. It seems that suicidal ideation, and probably other mental health issues, are overrepresented here.

Not surprising, really. Mental health issues increase the chances that someone takes drugs.

Everything has a darkside or what would the point be of the light side? And I agree that I have seen a lot of people post about how they are suicidal but I think that stems from the fact that you can buy things such as potassium cyanide on here and that's just what some people need to tap out so to speak. Also I think because it's so anonymous here that people just have no problem at all speaking from the bottoms of there hearts and pouring out what usually staying in.   
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: astor on June 19, 2013, 06:01 am
Well, you seem to have some mental issues yourself, astor.  Are you really following Princess and I around trying to find out if we are responding to each other's posts? You seem to be a bit starved for compliments astor, it is pretty depressing to watch you puppy-dog around on our heels astor. Find a hobby or get some help. You obviously need it pal.

I'm not getting into a bullshit drama trash talking session with you.

And of course I'm not following you around. I've randomly encountered it enough times to notice.

What point you're trying to raise astor? What relevance does it bear to the subject of this thread? I do not 'cheerlead' every post Raz makes, however if he posts something I agree with I'll voice my support, I'll do the same with any member I concur with. When you agree with someone does it make you their cheerleader? I believe showing your support for someone or something you believe in is healthy and not 'mental', this is a wide and varied forum where we should respect the differentials of opinion than discrediting them.

And there's Princess, proving my point...

Neither one of you saw this thread for 2 days, but you showed up and posted within 20 minutes of each other.

Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: PrincessHIGH on June 19, 2013, 11:21 am
Well, you seem to have some mental issues yourself, astor.  Are you really following Princess and I around trying to find out if we are responding to each other's posts? You seem to be a bit starved for compliments astor, it is pretty depressing to watch you puppy-dog around on our heels astor. Find a hobby or get some help. You obviously need it pal.

I'm not getting into a bullshit drama trash talking session with you.

And of course I'm not following you around. I've randomly encountered it enough times to notice.

What point you're trying to raise astor? What relevance does it bear to the subject of this thread? I do not 'cheerlead' every post Raz makes, however if he posts something I agree with I'll voice my support, I'll do the same with any member I concur with. When you agree with someone does it make you their cheerleader? I believe showing your support for someone or something you believe in is healthy and not 'mental', this is a wide and varied forum where we should respect the differentials of opinion than discrediting them.

And there's Princess, proving my point...

Neither one of you saw this thread for 2 days, but you showed up and posted within 20 minutes of each other.
Funnily enough astor I wasn't on the forum for a couple of days, I clicked on the 'Show new replies to your posts' link, saw your post, saw Raz's post, then I chimed in, we were obviously all online at the same time, that's what you call, you know, having a conversation, and in case you haven't realised that's what forum members do, they have conversations, without conversations there would be no threads and posts, and without these the forum wouldn't exist. What does it matter if the responses are two hours or two days apart? Does the timestamp make a post more valid than the next because of its timestamp alone ::)

I have the right as a forum member to defend myself and those I agree with, I have the right to debate, and post whatever I feel is helpful, fitting, or relevant. Raz and I are established members who have given a lot of our time to helping and supporting this community. It's clear as day you've got a problem with us showing support for one another, or even quote and respond anything. Unfortunately for you astor, that's your problem and not ours.
Title: Re: Hardened Criminals -- spell corrected ;)
Post by: Razorspyne on June 19, 2013, 01:44 pm
Well, you seem to have some mental issues yourself, astor.  Are you really following Princess and I around trying to find out if we are responding to each other's posts? You seem to be a bit starved for compliments astor, it is pretty depressing to watch you puppy-dog around on our heels astor. Find a hobby or get some help. You obviously need it pal.

I'm not getting into a bullshit drama trash talking session with you.

And of course I'm not following you around. I've randomly encountered it enough times to notice.

What point you're trying to raise astor? What relevance does it bear to the subject of this thread? I do not 'cheerlead' every post Raz makes, however if he posts something I agree with I'll voice my support, I'll do the same with any member I concur with. When you agree with someone does it make you their cheerleader? I believe showing your support for someone or something you believe in is healthy and not 'mental', this is a wide and varied forum where we should respect the differentials of opinion than discrediting them.

And there's Princess, proving my point...

Neither one of you saw this thread for 2 days, but you showed up and posted within 20 minutes of each other.

astor, no one had a problem with anyone until you followed us here and started trash-talking US, so that bullshit isn't going to fly here. If you don't want a trash-talking session then don't start one. Also I see it took you 5 hours to come up with a response to this, weird how some people are too scared to respond until the other person is safely offline.

You've lost a chunk of your former good reputation astor in the last month or so to when you first came here. People used to respect you on this forum, and when I say that, EVERYBODY, including people who matter, now you have turned into making snide, derogatory comments and subtly trolling people. Shame to see you turn. Not sure what point you are  trying to prove, or why  you have followed us around on multiple threads -- this is the third time you've posted after us to leave a smart aleck and derogatory remark -- but you need to get a life and find your own topics to post about. It is not up to you to follow people around trying to figure out who is responding to who -- what business is it of yours to tell me who I can and can't talk to? You obviously have a lot of free time on your hands and have run out of material to post recently. My advice is to stop subtly attacking people on the forum and if you don't have something to contribute to this thread -- and we see you don't as you didn;t even mention the topic -- then you shouldn't be here trolling.

You're nothing like you used to be astor. You've lost your respect here, at least with more than a few people. As to the topic, I have already answered the OP q. in sufficient depth. I would like this thread to be returned to a discussion on hardened criminals, which is what everyone was discussing before astor showed up and derailed this thread to troll here.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Hardened Crimnals
Post by: Razorspyne on June 19, 2013, 02:43 pm
I've come to realize that the stereotypical "hardened criminal" are either too stupid to use SR or they think it's a giant scam/stupid concept that "you would have to be an idiot to order drugs on the internet" kind of deal. Most don't even think it's real.

I feel like SR is more of the home for the new age of internet people, for lack of a better term, and not your criminals and stereotypical bad guys.

Possibly that, or possibly well entrenched into a pattern that scarce time or 'changing tracks' won't allow them to change. People are often skeptical of things that are new or 'tech', so continue the well-trodden path. This isn't the internet, it's the undernet, or darkweb as a lot like to call it, not ebay.

So I would have to agree on this. Whether or not Silk Road is better gear than street gear depends on how good your IRL contacts are, and which vendor you buy from. But overall it higher purity on Silk Road, just buy from the top vendors. It is kind of a wasted opportunity to not check something out b/c they think something might be a scam or a 'stupid concept'.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.