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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: StExo on May 30, 2013, 10:48 am

Title: Modafinil
Post by: StExo on May 30, 2013, 10:48 am
So, I'm a regular modafinil user to get me through my marathon days and through the week I can sometimes do 20-21 hours a day flat out for 5 days straight and then the weekend I'm effectively unconscious throughout. Last night I was sorting my pharmaceutical cabinet out and repackaging all my stuff as I like to make "day bags" so I can open 1 bag in the morning and swallow everything in it and not screw around remembering doses or times etc. I'm sure a lot of you do it like me.

Anyway, I got an order from a vendor I do proxy shipping for yesterday and I received a fresh stock of modafinil. Being tired yesterday, I left it out. This morning having woken up, not fully alert, I have taken x14 200mg modafinil pills for a lovely total of 2.8g.

I don't think I'm sleeping tonight, right now I can only describe the feeling as I can see every detail on the screen and hypersensitive to the tiniest imperfection or distraction. I doubt this is dangerous (reassurances anyone?) but still, anyone know if the danger has past if I'm not feeling any hugely negative side effects (ie tachycardia/brachycardia/superfical vasodilation) by the 4 hour mark? Can't find much reliable info.
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: Septimus W Smith on May 30, 2013, 12:46 pm
Holy cow! 2.8g? I've never had more than 400mg in one day. Anyway, a quick search turned up this:

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In clinical trials, a total of 151 protocol-specified doses ranging from 1000 to 1600 mg/day (5 to 8 times the recommended daily dose of 200 mg) have been administered to 32 subjects, including 13 subjects who received doses of 1000 or 1200 mg/day for 7 to 21 consecutive days. In addition, several intentional acute overdoses occurred; the two largest being 4500 mg and 4000 mg taken by two subjects participating in foreign depression studies. None of these study subjects experienced any unexpected or life-threatening effects. Adverse experiences that were reported at these doses included excitation or agitation, insomnia, and slight or moderate elevations in hemodynamic parameters. Other observed high-dose effects in clinical studies have included anxiety, irritability, aggressiveness, confusion, nervousness, tremor, palpitations, sleep disturbances, nausea, diarrhea and decreased prothrombin time.

It doesn't look like you're in any real danger. Come back and let us know how it goes.
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: tango on May 30, 2013, 01:23 pm
Surely alarm bells would of gone off in your head.

I'd say a normal reaction would be something like this...

Oh shit!.... I've just taken 14 modafinils instead of my usual 4 (exaggerated) ... I'll go and stick my fingers down my throat to throw them up... Problem solvered.

Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: StExo on May 30, 2013, 03:25 pm
Surely alarm bells would of gone off in your head.

I'd say a normal reaction would be something like this...

Oh shit!.... I've just taken 14 modafinils instead of my usual 4 (exaggerated) ... I'll go and stick my fingers down my throat to throw them up... Problem solvered.

If it's been in your stomach for more than 20 minutes, then throwing up won't do jack shit unfortunately as it has already passed into the intestines which won't come back up unless there is something seriously wrong as it's not a normal bodily reaction.

But yes, I usually take 200mg in the morning and 100mg at lunch. The rest of the pills are multivitamins, two prescriptions, piracetam, aspirin, a herbal mix and some prescription strength probiotics since my sleep cycle screws around with my digestive cycle.

I don't panic at things like that. I mean, I've had guns pointed at me, people have tried to stab me several times, been threatened to be killed in public, had police raid a place covered in my prints with thousands worth of drugs, cash and encrypted radio sets. I think even this dose modafinil isn't going to unsettle me these days.

So far the heart rate is a bit faster than usual, 82bpm, my usual resting is 57bpm. No signs of sweating, dizziness or the like and feel fine essentially except I'm over-stimulated so every imperfection and detail are demanding my attention so my eyes are all over the place. Definitely coming down off it though, modafinil in my experience peaks from 60-180 mins and sustains high levels until maybe 8 hours and then slowly starts to creep off. My extra 100mg at lunch is to fight off the mid-day instinct to go to sleep (it's not your lunch that makes people sleep, it's called biphasic sleep).

One thing that has stuck out today though is when people hand you wads of notes and they're not all in the right orientation, facing the same way and grouped by note value. That usually bugs me but today especially given the cash notes stacked near me. Probably my OCD kicking in there.
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: Raoul Duke on May 30, 2013, 03:29 pm
One thing that has stuck out today though is when people hand you wads of notes and they're not all in the right orientation, facing the same way and grouped by note value. That usually bugs me but today especially given the cash notes stacked near me. Probably my OCD kicking in there.

that did my fucking nut in when i was dealing - people must understand it goes 5s to 50s in order, and the queens head MUST be facing up. think its a dealer thing, as a few dealers i know still do that
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: StExo on May 30, 2013, 06:01 pm
that did my fucking nut in when i was dealing - people must understand it goes 5s to 50s in order, and the queens head MUST be facing up. think its a dealer thing, as a few dealers i know still do that

What fucking dealing is giving you £50's? Not once in my entire life have one of my dealers given me a £50 note. Who carries one of them around?

But yes, front design to the front, Queen's head in the correct vertical position and no folded notes or corners and do not ever give me it as a loose bundle or messed up orientations so you need both hands so it doesn't fall to pieces. Wet notes I seriously do not appreciate, or sweaty ones or one which looks like they've just done a line off seconds ago. As much as I enjoy counting my money, that just annoys me.
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: Septimus W Smith on May 31, 2013, 08:00 am
How are you doing a day on from your big dose?
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: goochihuh on May 31, 2013, 08:02 am
Expensive drug , OP do you feel it has any recreational value? Opinion seems divided in related to that..... I think if it did it would be a lot more popular then what it is.
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: Raoul Duke on May 31, 2013, 08:27 am
What fucking dealing is giving you £50's? Not once in my entire life have one of my dealers given me a £50 note. Who carries one of them around?
a lot of builders get paid cash, i got a lot of fifties from them
But yes, front design to the front, Queen's head in the correct vertical position and no folded notes or corners and do not ever give me it as a loose bundle or messed up orientations so you need both hands so it doesn't fall to pieces. Wet notes I seriously do not appreciate, or sweaty ones or one which looks like they've just done a line off seconds ago. As much as I enjoy counting my money, that just annoys me.
i used to get notes with fresh blood on where some muppet was so keen to get a line up his hooter he must have rammed the note up there too quick. pretty rank. i've got my own little titanium tooter so i don't use notes. any notes that were stuck together with sellotape i wouldn't accept - don't care if it's real or not, i'm not putting that in my wad, it'll upset the balance of things. some fucker tried to palm me off with fake 20s before as well. he get struck off the customer list. and people coming up to me jangling pound coins? get the fuck out of my face, i don't take pocket money!
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: StExo on May 31, 2013, 03:15 pm
How are you doing a day on from your big dose?

Baseline I'd say, nothing unusual, took my usual dose this morning and functioning fine. Took a bit longer to get to sleep but ah well, to be expected. Was an interesting result.


Expensive drug , OP do you feel it has any recreational value? Opinion seems divided in related to that..... I think if it did it would be a lot more popular then what it is.

I'd say no recreational value simply because I don't know how it could be, it just wakes you up. Maybe in combination with other drugs but I've never tried that. It can be expensive if you get it from some places, but use a vendor such as medsforbitcoin and they're pretty cheap and he offers free reship if it's seized, he's a top bloke to work with and my supplier of choice.


What fucking dealing is giving you £50's? Not once in my entire life have one of my dealers given me a £50 note. Who carries one of them around?
a lot of builders get paid cash, i got a lot of fifties from them
But yes, front design to the front, Queen's head in the correct vertical position and no folded notes or corners and do not ever give me it as a loose bundle or messed up orientations so you need both hands so it doesn't fall to pieces. Wet notes I seriously do not appreciate, or sweaty ones or one which looks like they've just done a line off seconds ago. As much as I enjoy counting my money, that just annoys me.
i used to get notes with fresh blood on where some muppet was so keen to get a line up his hooter he must have rammed the note up there too quick. pretty rank. i've got my own little titanium tooter so i don't use notes. any notes that were stuck together with sellotape i wouldn't accept - don't care if it's real or not, i'm not putting that in my wad, it'll upset the balance of things. some fucker tried to palm me off with fake 20s before as well. he get struck off the customer list. and people coming up to me jangling pound coins? get the fuck out of my face, i don't take pocket money!

Fair enough. Yeah, somebody pulled out the coins to cover a lost £5 note once and I just said don't bother, hate carrying coins around which is why I love the visa card I use. No name, no limits, fully international and contactless payments.
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: Septimus W Smith on May 31, 2013, 03:52 pm
That's fascinating. Id have thought that at 2.8g you'd be awake for at least a couple of days. Perhaps there's some kind of saturation point after which, the effects don't escalate. Thanks for recommending medsforbitcoin by the way. I'm currently getting my mod off the road. No waiting but it's considerably more expensive. If I plan ahead, using medsforbitcoin should be much better.
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: StExo on June 01, 2013, 05:48 am
That's fascinating. Id have thought that at 2.8g you'd be awake for at least a couple of days. Perhaps there's some kind of saturation point after which, the effects don't escalate. Thanks for recommending medsforbitcoin by the way. I'm currently getting my mod off the road. No waiting but it's considerably more expensive. If I plan ahead, using medsforbitcoin should be much better.

After 400mg I see no noticeable increase in the effect or duration as my little difficulty sleeping on the big dosage may simply by a chance occurance. May spend some more time looking into this as it was a strange result.
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: dontek on June 07, 2013, 12:55 pm
Probably going to order some modafinil to try it out. Prob get a small pack from SR.
Looked at medsforbitcoins that was mentioned above,  but fairly skeptical...have to send bitcoin first, then send order to a gmail account and then have to sign for delivery? Not sure about that though. Once I try and if I decide to buy more, would probably stick with SR. Prices maybe higher, but more safety procedures on SR imo vs buying from a gmail account.  That's just me though.
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: StExo on June 07, 2013, 02:00 pm
Probably going to order some modafinil to try it out. Prob get a small pack from SR.
Looked at medsforbitcoins that was mentioned above,  but fairly skeptical...have to send bitcoin first, then send order to a gmail account and then have to sign for delivery? Not sure about that though. Once I try and if I decide to buy more, would probably stick with SR. Prices maybe higher, but more safety procedures on SR imo vs buying from a gmail account.  That's just me though.

Huh? I buy through the marketplace, he's never mentioned a gmail account to me and we always stay in escrow.
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: dontek on June 07, 2013, 03:48 pm
Probably going to order some modafinil to try it out. Prob get a small pack from SR.
Looked at medsforbitcoins that was mentioned above,  but fairly skeptical...have to send bitcoin first, then send order to a gmail account and then have to sign for delivery? Not sure about that though. Once I try and if I decide to buy more, would probably stick with SR. Prices maybe higher, but more safety procedures on SR imo vs buying from a gmail account.  That's just me though.

Huh? I buy through the marketplace, he's never mentioned a gmail account to me and we always stay in escrow.

Sorry. Totally my mistake. I mis-read and thought you were referring to a website, not the vendor. My apologies.
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: smogmonster13 on June 08, 2013, 11:30 am
I'm glad you seem to be alright, OP.

And now that you've become in one fell swoop one of the most experienced users of Moda on the Road, tell me what you think of it. Are you at your best on it, or just able to power through large amounts of work? Is it worth the expense? I'm always in search of that thing you could take when you absolutely had to be at your best.
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: StExo on June 09, 2013, 08:07 pm
I'm glad you seem to be alright, OP.

And now that you've become in one fell swoop one of the most experienced users of Moda on the Road, tell me what you think of it. Are you at your best on it, or just able to power through large amounts of work? Is it worth the expense? I'm always in search of that thing you could take when you absolutely had to be at your best.

It's not any kind of amphetamine as it doesn't stimulate you, it just prevents or takes the edge of groggy feelings. It's used by students for exams/revision I think but my purpose is to get me through my long days of working since most days I am up for 20 hours a day so it staves off the tiredness until the weekend when I bomb a good 12-16 hour sleep to make up for the week.

I can't honestly say I consider it that expensive. I've started taking one just as I go to bed and fall asleep before it kicks in so in the morning, gives you a little more boost of motivation and wakefullness to get yourself out of bed then take another one, seems to improve the quality of sleep too.
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: Septimus W Smith on June 09, 2013, 08:33 pm
Are you taking some kind of delayed release version StExo? I'm on 200mg sun pharma modalerts. I take one a day at around 8am and they've usually kicked in by 8:30. No way I could take one and fall asleep right after.
Title: Re: Modafinil
Post by: StExo on June 09, 2013, 08:54 pm
Are you taking some kind of delayed release version StExo? I'm on 200mg sun pharma modalerts. I take one a day at around 8am and they've usually kicked in by 8:30. No way I could take one and fall asleep right after.

No, I just take it when I am literally laying in bed and have a nice cold bottle of water to take it with and once it is down, lid back on the bottle, light out head down and I'm usually out in 30 mins. Takes about 45-60 mins to kick in for me. I have made the error of not being too tired, taking one and being unable to fall asleep and then it kicks in so I sit there like a zombie for 4-5 hours until my alarm goes off and I think to myself "Well I've made a right cock-up there". Of course then another 200-400mg in the morning when I wake up depending how I feel, usually 200mg or 300mg does however and another 100mg at lunch to keep away the mid-day crash.