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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: tastylures on May 13, 2013, 10:32 pm
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New to the PGP thing. Used GPGTools to create my keys. Now I'm not exactly sure how to go about using them.
A couple questions:
-Should I encrypt messages to vendors on SR if they are just about product inquiry/special orders?
-How do I encrypt something appropriately? (How do I initiate the encryption, where do I put their/my public key)
I guess just a general quick shakedown on how to encrypt a short textual message, and how to put that in a message to vendor or in an email (I'd assume email would just upload the file as an attachement?)
Thanks!
Just wanting to keep security up and not be one of those ignorant folks.
-tastylures
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I'm certainly no expert on PGP, but the program I use is GPG4USB. I like it because you can run it on Linux or Windows off of a USB drive, so you can always have it with you. It's easy to create your own keys and to import keys so that you can encrypt messages for specific people/vendors, etc. Give ita shot and see if that doesn't work for you. A really easy and intuitive program to use.
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I use a mac :(
Also, I was able to create keys and import them all just fine.
I'm just not certain exactly how I encrypt a message using a key now that I have one and can (obviously) get the other person's public key.
How do I make an encrypted message?
Anyone willing to help me through some messaging or emailing?
Thanks!
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Just watch this man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SywCI91kfq0
Simple!
Its how I learned
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Thanks,
I'll take a look at it and hopefully learn this.
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Read the Newbie PGP Club thread above. Its full of instructions and people who will practice sending messages. Handy way to then pad your post count without spamming.
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Gpg4usb is a very good portable PGP solution (and it's free!) and is the one I use on my encrypted USB drive. You can get it at www.gpg4usb.cpunk.de
I can't really give information on your original question as I don't use that tool, but to encrypt something using gpg4usb, all you have to do is tick the box of the key you wish to encrypt in and hit "encrypt". If somebody has encrypted something to you, then paste it into the editor and press "decrypt" where it'll ask you to type in your password and it'll be decrypted should the password be correct. To generate a key, just go to Manage Keys > Keys > Generate Key and it'll take you through the process there, generally I just fill my SR username in, my tormail address and select the 4096 bit key strength with an expiry of 1 year. To find out what your public key is, right click it on the right hand side window and click "Append selected key(s) to text" and it'll paste your public key in the editor.
General messages shouldn't be encrypted, some vendors will be a little bit annoyed if you encrypt every single message to them, but there are some things you should always encrypt:
- Your delivery address in the shopping cart when placing an order
- Any sensitive messages containing specific information about their packaging(ie, if you mention that their "example electronics" logo was poorly printed then this should be encrypted as it is something authorities could use to watch certain packages)
- Tracking numbers
- Any information which may endanger their/your security such as mentioning where the package come from if there are stamps on it from a specific city for example
Personally I will not be bothered if people encrypt every message they send to me if it makes them feel more secure, I see it as a way for new users to get used to PGP and become more proficient at it. Here is my key if you wish to try sending me a sample message to decrypt, although Pine and Scout both run very good PGP club programs to get you started if you need help:
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Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (MingW32)
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=DbpW
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
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The PGP club post has a lot of good info.
As for your question on what you should or shouldn't encrypt, personally I encrypt & sign all messages that aren't simple small talk/simple questions that don't involve product specifically, otherwise I sign it. You can never be too careful. Signing at the minimum validates that you are who you say you are, and that you have attested that the message sent came from you. When you use the recipients public key in addition, it also acts as a validation that the message you intended to send, is also intended for the destination person.
Encryption should be done using the recipients public key - this is the reason that they give their public keys out. Doing so means that they are the only person that can decrypt the message (other than you, since you also use your key, though you can also choose to not allow this.), as they are the only one that has their own private key and passphrase that enables the usage of that key.
As for how to do all of this, the instructions and videos for all operating systems are very well written in the PGP Club thread :)
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Gpg4usb is a very good portable PGP solution (and it's free!) and is the one I use on my encrypted USB drive. You can get it at www.gpg4usb.cpunk.de
I can't really give information on your original question as I don't use that tool, but to encrypt something using gpg4usb, all you have to do is tick the box of the key you wish to encrypt in and hit "encrypt". and more.... on to mine.
StExo:
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=jxpa
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
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Just a shout out to PurpleBalloons54 and StExo:
Thank you for communicating with me so quickly and verifying my encryption.
You folks get props in my book for being so willing to help someone new to this whole situation.
Thanks again!
-tastylures
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Just a shout out to PurpleBalloons54 and StExo:
Thank you for communicating with me so quickly and verifying my encryption.
You folks get props in my book for being so willing to help someone new to this whole situation.
Thanks again!
-tastylures
+1 for saying thankyou :) All too many people these days undervalue simple manners :)
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Another question: say you encrypt your message to a vendor using his public key, how is he supposed to reply an encrypted message to you? There doesn't seem to be a 'profile page' or something for buyers where you can put your public key on. So the only way is to add your public key to the first message you send to someone?
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Bump.
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Good question moonsafari
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Another question: say you encrypt your message to a vendor using his public key, how is he supposed to reply an encrypted message to you? There doesn't seem to be a 'profile page' or something for buyers where you can put your public key on. So the only way is to add your public key to the first message you send to someone?
You have to send them YOUR public key too. What I usually do is encrypt a message like this and attach my public key below it too. Alternatively, post your public PGP key somewhere in the forum and leave it in your forum signature like in mind so anyone can get a hold of your key should they need to message you:
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (MingW32)
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=rQKu
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
And my public key is as follows:
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That's what I thought. Thanks for the help StExo. :) Will post my public key somewhere soon enough!
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Where's a good place to post my public key?
Also, StExo, when I put your message into a file and tried to decrypt it, an error was shown saying "no private key" although I shouldn't need one since I added your public key.
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You can post your public key here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg824#msg824
The reason you couldn't decrypt the message you encrypted for StExo is because you encrypted it using his public key....so you'd need his private key to decrypt it. ;)
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Hey,
I'd just like to thank all of you for helping me figure this stuff out. It has been going quite well since then!
If anyone reads this looking for help, feel free to PM me and I'll work with you! It's such a fantastic and easy system that can completely save your butt!
-tastylures