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Discussion => Philosophy, Economics and Justice => Topic started by: bynter on November 12, 2012, 06:48 am
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Now I know this is a bit heavy, even for SR. I'm also aware that this board is for more conceptual stuff, and not really specifics. That aside, I feel it's heavy enough to justify it. If I'm breaking any rules, or simply just posting in the wrong board, mods, please inform me. I'm embraced for the negative Karma I'm about to recieve
A while back, i was doing some kinda-stupid-but-not-really stuff and got reprimanded by this cop. The consequences weren't even particularly serious, but I can't get it out of my head how much I came to hate the guy for the assholish,ignorant, ultra-conservative, and hypocritical manner in which he conducted himself. It came to where I began to want to kill him, and then began to take that idea seriously after deciding I don't follow through on enough things in my life.
As far as the moral standpoint goes, I'd say I identify with nihilism quite a bit, and even if I didn't, the world would be a better place without this guy.
So what I'm wondering is would this even be feasible to pull off and get away with?
My plan that I've concocted would be something along the lines of kidnap from his house through a combination of means of tazer, threatening at gunpoint, mace/pepperspray, and a high dose of flunitrazepam so he's unconscience. Then, take a bunch of his money and personal info so it looks like he overdrew a credit card and fled, and plant some trace cocaine powder for investigators, so his memory has a whole lot less reverence to it. Meanwhile, I drive him into the woods, torture(I'm genuinely convinced that wouldn't be unethical), and dispose with his body with hydroflouric acid.
Again, would that be feasible? What about the listed method?
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Are you mad at one cop or are you mad at the institution which he represents? Although I cannot blame you for wanting to kill a cop, I encourage you to think about being as effective as possible at doing damage to those who oppress you.
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That said your plan is horribly flawed. If you really wanted to kill someone and get away with it you would use a remote controlled UAV with an explosive charge, and control it anonymously. Lock onto the targets car, and bombs away. UAVs are proven as effective at killing terrorists! Or even an anonymously controlled UAV armed with an automatic pistol! You could control it and get video feedback from it via anonymized cellular communications , lock it onto target, blast, fly off. Unless they can trace the person who controls it, the controller is pretty solid. If they take it down, it has no fingerprints on it right? Launch another. They don't need to be fancy like the military has, just capable of flight for a decent distance and carrying a weapon. You could setup low latency anonymous control channels that would be anon enough (especially with some tactics thrown in) and low latency enough to allow for sufficient control.
It sure is awesome being anonymous in a world filled with evil people who paint targets on themselves.
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That would sort of miss the point though. If I wanted to do it in that sort of manner, I'd just brush abrin somewhere where his hands/lungs get a lot of traffic. But the whole idea is that he needs to know it's me.
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If you're truly serious about this, pm me using my pgp key.
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If he was truly serious he would not post his intentions.
Maybe some reality and anger management is what you need. You are angry with the system, as any critically thinking human would be. Cops are not critical thinkers, they are for the most part good people who have been brainwashed since birth, just trying to make their min wage to put food on the table and a roof over their head. Do you hit a small child when they do something stupid? Best thing you can do is stay out of their sights, imo some of the best entertainment you could experience is a cop or seco with an IQ of ~70 on a powertrip, as long as it's not being directed at yourself of course some of their logic and stern expressions are hilarious.
Went to a gig a couple nights back and the security guards, all ugly as sin of course, were jumping up in front of the band with torches every 2 minutes to warn people not to sit on each others shoulders, as that could block the view of other people. This level of stupidity had half the crowd seething, but I was laughing that hard I was in tears half the night. Don't feel angry, feel pity, and lighten up.
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Now I know this is a bit heavy, even for SR. I'm also aware that this board is for more conceptual stuff, and not really specifics. That aside, I feel it's heavy enough to justify it. If I'm breaking any rules, or simply just posting in the wrong board, mods, please inform me. I'm embraced for the negative Karma I'm about to recieve
A while back, i was doing some kinda-stupid-but-not-really stuff and got reprimanded by this cop. The consequences weren't even particularly serious, but I can't get it out of my head how much I came to hate the guy for the assholish,ignorant, ultra-conservative, and hypocritical manner in which he conducted himself. It came to where I began to want to kill him, and then began to take that idea seriously after deciding I don't follow through on enough things in my life.
As far as the moral standpoint goes, I'd say I identify with nihilism quite a bit, and even if I didn't, the world would be a better place without this guy.
So what I'm wondering is would this even be feasible to pull off and get away with?
My plan that I've concocted would be something along the lines of kidnap from his house through a combination of means of tazer, threatening at gunpoint, mace/pepperspray, and a high dose of flunitrazepam so he's unconscience. Then, take a bunch of his money and personal info so it looks like he overdrew a credit card and fled, and plant some trace cocaine powder for investigators, so his memory has a whole lot less reverence to it. Meanwhile, I drive him into the woods, torture(I'm genuinely convinced that wouldn't be unethical), and dispose with his body with hydroflouric acid.
Again, would that be feasible? What about the listed method?
I am not a cop fan but This guy is doing a job that would make most people sour. So if I get this right this one time he pissed you off so he must die....You must do this because you are never following thru on your goals :)
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Come on people please don't encourage the OP, he is obviously young, immature and possibly has some screws loose.
We all hate cops but who are you to judge whether or not the world would be better off without him? It's your own fault you got busted for doing stupid shit in the first place. Committing the act of murder over something so petty will only bring a large amount of bad karma unto yourself and into your life. Let the pig learn on his own, there's still a chance he could change and be a good person. If you kill him another one will only take his place, probably an angry one since his buddy died.
It's not that easy to get away with murder. If you do try to go through with this then there are only a handful of likely outcomes.
1. OP murders cop thinking his plan was foolproof, leaves behind evidence anyway and goes to jail. Ends up on an episode of Snapped, life in prison without parole.
2. Cop resists or something else goes wrong during procedure, even if he still manages to kill the cop he still goes to fucking jail and ends up on an episode of Snapped.
3. OP somehow manages to get away with it (less than 1% chance of this happening), great now his ego is all blown up, he thinks he's somehow smarter/better than others and will probably try to kill someone again or do something else fucked up like rob somebody. Who in his mind thinks he deserves it, of course.
Obviously the best outcome is OP does nothing, sits at home and smokes a joint.
TLDR; stop being a moron and grow up OP
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This world is full of persons that equals shit. Sure you can kill this specific individual, guess what, there are 100,000,000 more like him. Don't let them get to you, let go of all the negative feelings this people make you embrace, don't let them affect you and keep moving.
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If he was truly serious he would not post his intentions.
Well that was sort of to avoid the tone of, "Im an ice cold blooded killa!"
Now I know this is a bit heavy, even for SR. I'm also aware that this board is for more conceptual stuff, and not really specifics. That aside, I feel it's heavy enough to justify it. If I'm breaking any rules, or simply just posting in the wrong board, mods, please inform me. I'm embraced for the negative Karma I'm about to recieve
A while back, i was doing some kinda-stupid-but-not-really stuff and got reprimanded by this cop. The consequences weren't even particularly serious, but I can't get it out of my head how much I came to hate the guy for the assholish,ignorant, ultra-conservative, and hypocritical manner in which he conducted himself. It came to where I began to want to kill him, and then began to take that idea seriously after deciding I don't follow through on enough things in my life.
As far as the moral standpoint goes, I'd say I identify with nihilism quite a bit, and even if I didn't, the world would be a better place without this guy.
So what I'm wondering is would this even be feasible to pull off and get away with?
My plan that I've concocted would be something along the lines of kidnap from his house through a combination of means of tazer, threatening at gunpoint, mace/pepperspray, and a high dose of flunitrazepam so he's unconscience. Then, take a bunch of his money and personal info so it looks like he overdrew a credit card and fled, and plant some trace cocaine powder for investigators, so his memory has a whole lot less reverence to it. Meanwhile, I drive him into the woods, torture(I'm genuinely convinced that wouldn't be unethical), and dispose with his body with hydroflouric acid.
Again, would that be feasible? What about the listed method?
I am not a cop fan but This guy is doing a job that would make most people sour. So if I get this right this one time he pissed you off so he must die....You must do this because you are never following thru on your goals :)
That is one way to put it. My sort of reasoning going into this is that for a while, I haven't been able to be at ease because this is at the back of my mind. I think it's because throughout the interaction, he treated me like less of a human being and I can't help but feel like I should prove him wrong. It really angers me knowing that his brand of hypocrisy and ignorance is allowed to thrive in our world. It makes more sense when you approach it from a more nihilistic point of view.
and I never did say my plan was foolproof, I put it up for scrutiny and the like
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Are you seriously considering killing a cop because of his manners? I hope you try and I hope you fail - the world is a much better place without people like you. Disgusting.
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Yeah this is pretty extreme. I don't think that one person is able to be judge, jury and executioner. You're always going to encounter people that you disagree with or who you think are terrible people. Don't get me wrong, there are definitely some people that deserve it (rapists, murderers). If you've ever worked in retail, you'd see that usually you'd want to kill every 50th customer that comes in the door.
This guy could have just been having a bad day. His mother could have died a couple days ago, his daughter raped etc... Also remember that you were doing the wrong thing in the first place... you might have been the 10th person this week that he's busted doing what you were doing and he was sick of it. What you need to remember is that you don't know what is going on in his life, which might explain his behavior. I know people shouldn't take out their anger on other people, but if you could honestly say that you've never done this, then I'd say you are a liar.
I'd think long and hard as to whether you think this is a good course of action and at the end of the day, this guy hurt your feelings... I personally think that there are very few reasons why people should lose their lives and hurt feelings definitely would be on the bottom of the list.
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... . If you've ever worked in retail, you'd see that usually you'd want to kill every 50th customer that comes in the door.
LMAO - And that - is why I will NEVER work directly with the public again.
Seriously though OP, you should think long and hard about this course of action though. Apart from it being morally wrong (nihilism aside) if you were to get caught, (and don't think they wouldn't have every cop in Keystone after you) you would face the death penalty. There is no more serious a crime than killing anyone in the judicial system.
I kind of identify with you though. I remember a particularly arrogant fuck-wad of a cop from my youth. He seemed to get off humiliating kids and treating them as less than human. I'm sure the only reason he didn't tie us up and piss on us was because there would be too many witnesses. Just know that a guy like that has let poison seep into his soul. He probably lives in fear of ... a lot of things. Those are the kind of people that beat their wives, have shitty relationships with anyone who is not exactly like them and live in a small pathetic world of negativity.
I say let him hang himself.
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I still vote in favor of gunning him down with a remote controlled helicopter.
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I still vote in favor of gunning him down with a remote controlled helicopter.
lol. it's good to have you around man
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I still vote in favor of gunning him down with a remote controlled helicopter.
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I would like to know what he did. Murder can be justified, but it doesn't seem that it is in this instance. You admitted it was minor yourself. And even police don't deserve torture. They are our enemies, and we should kill them when we the circumstances necessitate it, but they are also human and killing and torturing one police officer over nothing seems cruel and pointless. This is the same thing I dislike about the US Army; they are taught their enemies are not human.
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OP might want to consider taking responsibility for how they eventually came into contact with this dick officer of the law, instead of blaming someone else for their own personal experience.
It's very simple. Either you are aware and conscious of being in control of your own experience, or you are a fucking victim, helpless, unaware, and seek to commit or talk about committing, entertain actually. disgusting acts that OP knows is entirely twisted. That would be "hell" to me. To see the OP has been hurt so badly by some random event with "authority" that is actually somewhat considered as "normal" in today's day and age. I'm truly sorry to see you so hurt or shamed. I had an instance once where the cop pulled me over for a ticket I didn't even realize I did anything. He was such a fucking asshole about the whole thing. Condescending and all.... And you know what? Sure, I was seething... that someone could treat me with such disrespect. But, I actually saw that he was somewhat of a peer age to me, and probably hated his fucking job, because of what a joke it was.
I fought the ticket and the fucker didn't even show up! DISMISSED.
But hey, no one can stop anyone from doing anything OP. Just like no one can stop you from killing someone. It's a shit society, but if you can assume responsibility for your own experience, your own feelings, deal with them from however they've come to be... cause we all have fucked up ass upbringings n shit.... then maybe you wouldn't be so compelled to entertain thoughts of such an atrocious act.
And hopefully this OP is just bullshittin... and you know this... MAN!
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@paraiso- Judge Dredd homeslice.
@utensildude- you forgot one, OP gets his shot tossed and brains blown out by a professionally trained killer who sleeps with his glock underneath his pillow.
@kmfkewn- probably the most practical reply on this thread
and finally, for the OP -- why don't you give it a little bit of thought, or a lot, read crime & punishment by dostoevsky in the meantime, and then reconsider what you are about to do.... when it comes to heinous acts that are premeditated such as this one, from the moment you step out the door to commit the murder, there will be major deviations from your original plan, sometimes fatal (in more ways than one).
i, however, can relate to having murder fantasies -- was always someone random tho
HTH,
chicken fingers.
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threads like these really get to me. this is not the place to get advice on how to murder someone. you honestly believe this cop treated you inhumanely enough to warrant his death? if so, you are delusional and in need of some serious mental help. if being an asshole was grounds for getting murdered, most of this country would be dead. think about this some more. not only will you end his life, but your own as well. you can't possibly think there's any chance of you getting away with killing a cop. relax, smoke a bowl, eat some mushrooms, and reflect on the interconnectivity of all life. resolve all the hatred you have in your heart, for it is misplaced and only exists to burden you.
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The fact that you're typing this right now means whatever you got in trouble for didn't really cause you to lose your freedom. You've put a decent bit of thought into murdering him, but not a whole lot into getting away with it scott free. I've had an asshole cop who decided to take me to jail from my driveway because I "fled" instead of pulling over a block or two earlier. Despite being totally sober he had the nerve to say I "looked like I was on drugs", probably bias because of my long hair and beard. Even going so far as to say "I think you're lying! We'll draw blood if we have to!". During searching me, my cell phone got stolen by one of the crooked pigs who came in as backup, and I'd totally love both of them dead, but not over my own freedom getting taken away. He didn't bother buckling me in when I was put in the back of his squad car, and the entire 20 min. ride I kept praying he'd get involved in a serious accident so I could sue him for every fucking cent he was worth. He had the nerve to try and have a polite conversation on the drive. If I ever have the kind of money to hire a hitman he's definitely at the top of my list. Just break in one day and hide a few gasoline canisters around the house, then set it on fire when he's in there alone. He might escape, but now he's at least homeless. If he dies in the raging inferno, even better, either way I'd call it even. Abducting him from his house leaves all kinds of possibilities for someone to witness you doing it and leave a trail right back to you.
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You want to kill someone who was doing his job. You were doing something wrong, and you got caught. Deal with it. Would you kill everyone who stepped on your toes? Are you going to kill me for disagreeing with you? That's stupid, and immature.
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All Cops Are Bastards.
Wait a year after your case is resolved. If you still want to do it then forget about the satisfaction of him knowing it was you, he doesn't even remember you, he did that same shit to dozens of people that week. Walk up to him and put a bullet in his head in the best place you can based on his schedule. Get rid of the gun, make sure it is not registered, melt it down if possible. For added confusion buck up and stick 2K in his sock, make sure the money is clean and not linked to you. That will really throw the investigation off. His pigs firends won't know what he was into but it will be safe to assume the 2K had something to do with the hit, not your bullshit case from over a year earlier. Pull his pockets out. Wear gloves, burn the cloths. Oh yeah, and don't do any of this, it is just hypothetical. Sit back, start educating yourself politically, and figure out that all modes of hierarchical organization breed oppression. We need militants for what may come about in our lifetime.
P.S. sort of seems like you just figured out how fucked up the guard dogs for the ruling class are. A bunch of them need to be put down, not just the one that barked at you...
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Have to agree with the other people who have urged you to think twice. Besides the fact that "being an asshole" should not be a capital crime... another thing you should consider are the innocent others who will be effected by your actions. The wife, mother, daughter, son, brothers, friends etc.
The best revenge is living a good life.
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another thing you should consider are the innocent others who will be effected by your actions. The wife, mother, daughter, son, brothers, friends etc.
I'm obviously assuming here, but it's a pretty safe assumption to say that any friends of his would be like-minded fascists, as would be of the morals he's trying to instill on any kids he might have.
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All Cops Are Bastards.
Wait a year after your case is resolved. If you still want to do it then forget about the satisfaction of him knowing it was you, he doesn't even remember you, he did that same shit to dozens of people that week. Walk up to him and put a bullet in his head in the best place you can based on his schedule. Get rid of the gun, make sure it is not registered, melt it down if possible. For added confusion buck up and stick 2K in his sock, make sure the money is clean and not linked to you. That will really throw the investigation off. His pigs firends won't know what he was into but it will be safe to assume the 2K had something to do with the hit, not your bullshit case from over a year earlier. Pull his pockets out. Wear gloves, burn the cloths. Oh yeah, and don't do any of this, it is just hypothetical. Sit back, start educating yourself politically, and figure out that all modes of hierarchical organization breed oppression. We need militants for what may come about in our lifetime.
P.S. sort of seems like you just figured out how fucked up the guard dogs for the ruling class are. A bunch of them need to be put down, not just the one that barked at you...
THIS, go with this hypothetical if you ever decide this is something you HAVE to do, but maybe throw a small bit of drugs in the other sock just to add even further confusion. Maybe make a fake "hit list" with some of his co-worker's names on it for some added fun. Or just prep yourself for whatever political/social shitstorm is on the horizon and you can shoot him when they call in him and the other Stormtroopers.
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Now I know this is a bit heavy, even for SR. I'm also aware that this board is for more conceptual stuff, and not really specifics. That aside, I feel it's heavy enough to justify it. If I'm breaking any rules, or simply just posting in the wrong board, mods, please inform me. I'm embraced for the negative Karma I'm about to recieve
A while back, i was doing some kinda-stupid-but-not-really stuff and got reprimanded by this cop. The consequences weren't even particularly serious, but I can't get it out of my head how much I came to hate the guy for the assholish,ignorant, ultra-conservative, and hypocritical manner in which he conducted himself. It came to where I began to want to kill him, and then began to take that idea seriously after deciding I don't follow through on enough things in my life.
As far as the moral standpoint goes, I'd say I identify with nihilism quite a bit, and even if I didn't, the world would be a better place without this guy.
So what I'm wondering is would this even be feasible to pull off and get away with?
My plan that I've concocted would be something along the lines of kidnap from his house through a combination of means of tazer, threatening at gunpoint, mace/pepperspray, and a high dose of flunitrazepam so he's unconscience. Then, take a bunch of his money and personal info so it looks like he overdrew a credit card and fled, and plant some trace cocaine powder for investigators, so his memory has a whole lot less reverence to it. Meanwhile, I drive him into the woods, torture(I'm genuinely convinced that wouldn't be unethical), and dispose with his body with hydroflouric acid.
Again, would that be feasible? What about the listed method?
I am rather disappointed at the lack of imagination shown here in this thread. If you want revenge against someone badly enough to kill them, consider some alternatives.
You don't want them to die, you want them to live -- you want them to live in such a manner that they will know greater fear and terror than they have ever known in their lives. You want to strip away that which gives their life meaning.
For many cops, it's an ego trip and a power trip. Some of them, enjoy lording it over other people, revelling in their sense of power and entitlement. For some of them, it's what makes life worth living.
You want to strip them of all that. You want to reduce them to utter helplessness -- you want to reduce them to the point that they will put a gun in their own mouths just to end their own suffering.
Accomplishing all this is amazingly easy. All you have to do is to fry their retinas with a high-powered laser, inducing permanent blindness.
Some years back, an American polling firm conducted a nationwide poll of Americans, trying to ascertain which medical conditions were most feared. Blindness was the second-most feared medical condition, surpassed only by cancer.
Once blinded, they will no longer be able to keep their job as a cop. They will be vulnerable, helpless even. They will no longer be able to lord it over people -- other people will now have power over them. If they have made enemies, they will now live in fear of them, as they will no longer be able to protect themselves against them.
Rather than being respected, even feared, they will instead be reduced to objects of charity, even pity. This will slowly eat at their souls like acid, until they can take no more, and choose to end their own lives.
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Now I know this is a bit heavy, even for SR. I'm also aware that this board is for more conceptual stuff, and not really specifics. That aside, I feel it's heavy enough to justify it. If I'm breaking any rules, or simply just posting in the wrong board, mods, please inform me. I'm embraced for the negative Karma I'm about to recieve
A while back, i was doing some kinda-stupid-but-not-really stuff and got reprimanded by this cop. The consequences weren't even particularly serious, but I can't get it out of my head how much I came to hate the guy for the assholish,ignorant, ultra-conservative, and hypocritical manner in which he conducted himself. It came to where I began to want to kill him, and then began to take that idea seriously after deciding I don't follow through on enough things in my life.
As far as the moral standpoint goes, I'd say I identify with nihilism quite a bit, and even if I didn't, the world would be a better place without this guy.
So what I'm wondering is would this even be feasible to pull off and get away with?
My plan that I've concocted would be something along the lines of kidnap from his house through a combination of means of tazer, threatening at gunpoint, mace/pepperspray, and a high dose of flunitrazepam so he's unconscience. Then, take a bunch of his money and personal info so it looks like he overdrew a credit card and fled, and plant some trace cocaine powder for investigators, so his memory has a whole lot less reverence to it. Meanwhile, I drive him into the woods, torture(I'm genuinely convinced that wouldn't be unethical), and dispose with his body with hydroflouric acid.
Again, would that be feasible? What about the listed method?
I am rather disappointed at the lack of imagination shown here in this thread. If you want revenge against someone badly enough to kill them, consider some alternatives.
You don't want them to die, you want them to live -- you want them to live in such a manner that they will know greater fear and terror than they have ever known in their lives. You want to strip away that which gives their life meaning.
For many cops, it's an ego trip and a power trip. Some of them, enjoy lording it over other people, revelling in their sense of power and entitlement. For some of them, it's what makes life worth living.
You want to strip them of all that. You want to reduce them to utter helplessness -- you want to reduce them to the point that they will put a gun in their own mouths just to end their own suffering.
Accomplishing all this is amazingly easy. All you have to do is to fry their retinas with a high-powered laser, inducing permanent blindness.
Some years back, an American polling firm conducted a nationwide poll of Americans, trying to ascertain which medical conditions were most feared. Blindness was the second-most feared medical condition, surpassed only by cancer.
Once blinded, they will no longer be able to keep their job as a cop. They will be vulnerable, helpless even. They will no longer be able to lord it over people -- other people will now have power over them. If they have made enemies, they will now live in fear of them, as they will no longer be able to protect themselves against them.
Rather than being respected, even feared, they will instead be reduced to objects of charity, even pity. This will slowly eat at their souls like acid, until they can take no more, and choose to end their own lives.
The fucked up shit I find on the internet never ceases to amaze me.
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I am rather disappointed at the lack of imagination shown here in this thread. If you want revenge against someone badly enough to kill them, consider some alternatives.
You don't want them to die, you want them to live -- you want them to live in such a manner that they will know greater fear and terror than they have ever known in their lives. You want to strip away that which gives their life meaning.
For many cops, it's an ego trip and a power trip. Some of them, enjoy lording it over other people, revelling in their sense of power and entitlement. For some of them, it's what makes life worth living.
You want to strip them of all that. You want to reduce them to utter helplessness -- you want to reduce them to the point that they will put a gun in their own mouths just to end their own suffering.
Accomplishing all this is amazingly easy. All you have to do is to fry their retinas with a high-powered laser, inducing permanent blindness.
Some years back, an American polling firm conducted a nationwide poll of Americans, trying to ascertain which medical conditions were most feared. Blindness was the second-most feared medical condition, surpassed only by cancer.
Once blinded, they will no longer be able to keep their job as a cop. They will be vulnerable, helpless even. They will no longer be able to lord it over people -- other people will now have power over them. If they have made enemies, they will now live in fear of them, as they will no longer be able to protect themselves against them.
Rather than being respected, even feared, they will instead be reduced to objects of charity, even pity. This will slowly eat at their souls like acid, until they can take no more, and choose to end their own lives.
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This is the most genius post on here so far. I know I'd prefer being murdered to going blind any day of the week. I wouldn't do the laser though to blind him. Just break in one night and stab/cut his eyes out. The last image he'll ever see is the smirk on your face as you do the deed. As Inquisitor (+ Karma your way) said you've reduced him to begging to others for the mercy and leniency he refused to show due to his ego. Now he also has to decide whether or not he can even live in the house anymore, since it's where it all happened.
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i say NO, don't do it. because if this twat gets caught and runs his mouth about where he got the cocaine and vicodin, i'd rather not my lovely drug galleria where i can buy the old faithful eeeeeee and some crazy stuff i've never even heard of
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threads like these really get to me. this is not the place to get advice on how to murder someone. you honestly believe this cop treated you inhumanely enough to warrant his death? if so, you are delusional and in need of some serious mental help. if being an asshole was grounds for getting murdered, most of this country would be dead. think about this some more. not only will you end his life, but your own as well. you can't possibly think there's any chance of you getting away with killing a cop. relax, smoke a bowl, eat some mushrooms, and reflect on the interconnectivity of all life. resolve all the hatred you have in your heart, for it is misplaced and only exists to burden you.
If you think you can't get away with killing a cop, you're equally delusional ;)
Anyone can kill anyone and get away with it, there are literally affordable remote controlled helicopters that can be modified to carry weapons or explosive charges. Getting away with murder effectively becomes keeping yourself unlinkable to the control of the UAV, which can also be done if you have enough know how. Nothing stops you from controlling a mini helicopter half way around the world from the comfort of your home and behind a few low latency high bandwidth proxies. It becomes a game of not being traced to your helicopter, and not being identified as a target worthy of being gunned down. Of course there are defense mechanisms against such attacks as well, but only very rich and important individuals will have anti UAV security, and only an agency like the NSA would have much luck tracing the controllers.
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In fact big police agencies already have their own such mini UAVs, they are a way of doing surveillance on targets that look for traditional ground surveillance but are not sophisticated enough to counter covert aerial surveillance. Those same mini helicopters can be weaponized trivially.
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http://www.surveillance-safety.com/aerial-surveillance.htm
wiped down, modified to carry a low recoil gun (to escape after delivering the shot, alternatively packed with plastic explosives with great care taken to avoid any trace evidence), controlled via cellular network and via several high bandwidth low latency proxies
http://www.surveillance-safety.com/aerial-surveillance.htm
guided missiles that can travel fairly substantial distances are cheap.
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i say NO, don't do it. because if this twat gets caught and runs his mouth about where he got the cocaine and vicodin, i'd rather not my lovely drug galleria where i can buy the old faithful eeeeeee and some crazy stuff i've never even heard of
Who cares if he gets caught killing a cop and mentions Silk Road? That cat's been out the fucking bag for a year thanks to the Gawker article.
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Even if your "get away" with it, you'll pay for it with what little is left of your soul.
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http://www.surveillance-safety.com/aerial-surveillance.htm
wiped down, modified to carry a low recoil gun (to escape after delivering the shot, alternatively packed with plastic explosives with great care taken to avoid any trace evidence), controlled via cellular network and via several high bandwidth low latency proxies
http://www.surveillance-safety.com/aerial-surveillance.htm
guided missiles that can travel fairly substantial distances are cheap.
You really like your UAVs
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My thought are nobody is worth risking my life in jail unless I feel its in self defence. If someone is trying to cause physical harm to myself or loved ones, all bets are off. I carry my glock for those very instances.
Also rather than kill someone that is just more of an annoyance, just do things to fuck with them. Blow their car up, open credit cards in their name.. get creative.. I know of a guy who took mason jars of glow in the dark paint and covered a guys car in it, think he also got his house and buisness done up too..
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Good idea with the glow in the dark paint. Paint thinner would also do a number on a car and home. As far as blowing up a car, yet alone a cop's personal car or cruiser, any explosive detonation in the US is a federal crime. That means ATF and federal time with no parole. I'd just assume shoot the pig than blow his car up at that point. Now, dumping gas on the car and lighting it on fire might only get you a state arson charge which might only be a few years depending on your record or lack thereof. That is not well researched info, just my understanding of the law and how it is usually applied in certain situations. Keep in mind fucking with a pig is more likely to get you sentences towards the maximum allowed compared to fucking with a commoner.
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murder is not the right way out. if you really hate someone, you'd make them suffer their whole life rather than just killing them.
remember, its easy to die but hard to survive
^^This. Sometimes murder is harder on the killer than the killee (sometimes...). Think up a non-violent way to get back at him, it looks like your doing this to give yourself the pleasure of revenge, and usually the more creative methods are better. The guy who mentioned blindness is spot on, but you could do it one better and make him helel keller with his dicked chopped off. Although that is definitely not non-violent.
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I still vote in favor of gunning him down with a remote controlled helicopter.
+1 Hahahahaha.. This is obviously the best idea in this thread.
As for encouraging the OP to follow through with the "Murder!?" is the morally wrong decision. If you are trying to "post" legitimate ideas "anonymously"... This is the right place.. so to say.
Just go about it a different way... Obviously this thread is just going to get criticism.. instead of beneficial, structured ideas.
KMF has the most solid plan.. but he is a very intellectual forum member. He contributes to the community in more way than one from what we've seen.
His idea is ingenious.. but can you afford it.. and let alone pull it off?
Good luck and have a blessed day!
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I truly don't believe murder is ever the answer except in (extreme) cases of self defense. there's other ways to get back at this fuckhead than killing him. Ever considering drugging the ever living shit out of him? Pick up some liquid L, soak a letter in it and drop it in his mailbox. Follow him for the next 24 hours and watch him lose his mind before putting an anonymous tip into the police force that you have reason to believe a member of their unit is a drug user.
Also lmao @ the helicopter comment.
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c'mon murder isn't the way. That'll just shit stain your soul and you will think about that man that you killed and feel guilty about it until the day you die.
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Ever considering drugging the ever living shit out of him? Pick up some liquid L, soak a letter in it and drop it in his mailbox. Follow him for the next 24 hours and watch him lose his mind before putting an anonymous tip into the police force that you have reason to believe a member of their unit is a drug user.
Been thinking this the entire time.. lol
If you're already going to break into his house it should be easy enough. Forget death, forget blindness, forget call of duty style helicopter tactics (LMFAO) what is the worst thing in the entire world for a cop? Going to jail. Assuming this guy has fucked with as many people as you think he should have I'm sure he'll get passed around like a pin cushion. Seeing as this is a drug forum... why not buy every RC under the sun as well as a "stash" to leave in his house as evidence (cash, paraphernalia, hell throw in some CP) drug him with a ridiculous amount of acid/RCs's and wait. Doubt you'd have to call it in at all he'd probably go bonkers get himself arrested
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Yeah this is pretty extreme. I don't think that one person is able to be judge, jury and executioner. You're always going to encounter people that you disagree with or who you think are terrible people. Don't get me wrong, there are definitely some people that deserve it (rapists, murderers). If you've ever worked in retail, you'd see that usually you'd want to kill every 50th customer that comes in the door.
This guy could have just been having a bad day. His mother could have died a couple days ago, his daughter raped etc... Also remember that you were doing the wrong thing in the first place... you might have been the 10th person this week that he's busted doing what you were doing and he was sick of it. What you need to remember is that you don't know what is going on in his life, which might explain his behavior. I know people shouldn't take out their anger on other people, but if you could honestly say that you've never done this, then I'd say you are a liar.
I'd think long and hard as to whether you think this is a good course of action and at the end of the day, this guy hurt your feelings... I personally think that there are very few reasons why people should lose their lives and hurt feelings definitely would be on the bottom of the list.
couldn't have said it better myself
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deciding I don't follow through on enough things in my life.
Hey man, you know, we have this in common. You know what I'm going to do about it? I'm going to take some goddamn piano lessons.
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Haven't read through every post, so this has probably already been said, but:
You can't forget who else you could be hurting by killing this guy. Sure, he might a douche, but some of his family members who unconditionally love him may be the nicest people on the planet, and don't deserve the pain of losing a loved one.
I can imagine a film about it. Guy kills cop. Guy meets distressed girl. Guy falls in love with girl. Guy finds out girl is distressed due to having recently lost her father. Guy finds out her father is the cop he killed.
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Personal opinion as it maybe not what your looking for it maybe a look into a life you would never want.
As you may not care about the next mans life is apparent and the thought that one mans single poor judgement shouldn't be enough for corporal punishment I would like to share with you that for the last 5 years SWIM has been awaiting trial for numerous counts of homicide and no matter how much of a accident it was and how close SWIM was to losing SWIM's life SWIM's been confined to home in which every month SWIM has to pay $750 for bracelets, monitoring, UA test and so forth. There is no amount of medication or incarceration that can help when you are constantly in a life of paralysis. THIS IS HELL!
Do the right thing and assist in the efforts to take out big brother all the way down to the lower level servants.
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this fucking guy...
man u aint no killer.. if you were serious about killing him u would do it and not come on a form where 98% of people are as high as you all the time...
u want a guy dead.. just do it .. shit in mexico u get killed for saying the wrong thing all the time..
u know where he lives? cool
u know his day by day activities? even better
u havent killed him yet.. ? ur a pussy
ur plan is a joke.. dont ever make murder so complicated.. u dont want to leave a trail or anything god damn ... go read Hitman the book there is a free pdf on the interenet..
you simply need to stalk him for a day or two..
get a outfit together.. black everything.. get a gun from a gun show or somewhere it cant be traced back to u..
buy a wig and some cheap sunglasses
wait outside his house till he gets off work.. and blow his fucking head off u fuck..
get rid of the gun by taking it apart and throwing it into different bodies of water or just go to the ghetto and give it away to a young minority who sells drugs..
have a story of what u where doing that night ready.. maybe spend the night at a girls house and sneak out in the middle of the night..
figure it out dipshit.. i hate u
u wont do it.. and if you do .. send me the link to the news..
saw a story about a couple kids that walked up to a cop in the middle of the night when he was making a drop off of money for something
and the kids just walked right up to him and blew his head off..
stole the money and went on about there lives like nothign happenend
only one kid got caught because he bragged to a girlfriend
and the other moved and his still on the run this was 2 years ago..
when u do it .. u dont tell anyone fool..
and plan it out for a month maybe two..
u make me sick btw.. ur a disgusting human being and i hope u get cought and ass rapped for murdering a cop..
btw if u do get caught i suggest u kill yourself cuz the prison guards and LE are going to have a field day with ur ass
fuck u .. and die slow mother fucker
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Haven't read through every post, so this has probably already been said, but:
You can't forget who else you could be hurting by killing this guy. Sure, he might a douche, but some of his family members who unconditionally love him may be the nicest people on the planet, and don't deserve the pain of losing a loved one.
I can imagine a film about it. Guy kills cop. Guy meets distressed girl. Guy falls in love with girl. Guy finds out girl is distressed due to having recently lost her father. Guy finds out her father is the cop he killed.
Reality has even more of a twist than that, though it could include that.
Cut to years forward, where by carrying hate for assholes he has, as most do, become what he hates. He doesn't see it and in some twist ends up a cop in trying to punish these assholes.
Then and only then, while abusing some poor stoned kid he just pulled over, he catches a glimpse of the whole truth, the cycle that breeds all of suffering on this planet......just as a toy helicopter (long outlawed for their potential in this role) comes barreling in with bang. The end.
As far as ethics go you only have a right to intiate agression against your own property. Repelling agression by others would be the only justification for killing others.
Why don't you try the opposite, kill him, or rather the demon of assholery inside him, with kindness. And then watch THAT spread.
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Now I know this is a bit heavy, even for SR. I'm also aware that this board is for more conceptual stuff, and not really specifics. That aside, I feel it's heavy enough to justify it. If I'm breaking any rules, or simply just posting in the wrong board, mods, please inform me.
I wish a mod would inform him this is not at all what this site is about. At least i hope not!
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Haven't read through every post, so this has probably already been said, but:
You can't forget who else you could be hurting by killing this guy. Sure, he might a douche, but some of his family members who unconditionally love him may be the nicest people on the planet, and don't deserve the pain of losing a loved one.
I can imagine a film about it. Guy kills cop. Guy meets distressed girl. Guy falls in love with girl. Guy finds out girl is distressed due to having recently lost her father. Guy finds out her father is the cop he killed.
Reality has even more of a twist than that, though it could include that.
Cut to years forward, where by carrying hate for assholes he has, as most do, become what he hates. He doesn't see it and in some twist ends up a cop in trying to punish these assholes.
Then and only then, while abusing some poor stoned kid he just pulled over, he catches a glimpse of the whole truth, the cycle that breeds all of suffering on this planet......just as a toy helicopter (long outlawed for their potential in this role) comes barreling in with bang. The end.
As far as ethics go you only have a right to intiate agression against your own property. Repelling agression by others would be the only justification for killing others.
Why don't you try the opposite, kill him, or rather the demon of assholery inside him, with kindness. And then watch THAT spread.
This is brilliant.
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this fucking guy...
man u aint no killer.. if you were serious about killing him u would do it and not come on a form where 98% of people are as high as you all the time...
u want a guy dead.. just do it .. shit in mexico u get killed for saying the wrong thing all the time..
u know where he lives? cool
u know his day by day activities? even better
u havent killed him yet.. ? ur a pussy
ur plan is a joke.. dont ever make murder so complicated..
Well said thelorax - couldn't agree more with the above.
Murder can be as simple as you want it to be.
This guy is a deadset fuking idiot! - mods please fuk him off.
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Now I know this is a bit heavy, even for SR. I'm also aware that this board is for more conceptual stuff, and not really specifics. That aside, I feel it's heavy enough to justify it. If I'm breaking any rules, or simply just posting in the wrong board, mods, please inform me. I'm embraced for the negative Karma I'm about to recieve
A while back, i was doing some kinda-stupid-but-not-really stuff and got reprimanded by this cop. The consequences weren't even particularly serious, but I can't get it out of my head how much I came to hate the guy for the assholish,ignorant, ultra-conservative, and hypocritical manner in which he conducted himself. It came to where I began to want to kill him, and then began to take that idea seriously after deciding I don't follow through on enough things in my life.
As far as the moral standpoint goes, I'd say I identify with nihilism quite a bit, and even if I didn't, the world would be a better place without this guy.
So what I'm wondering is would this even be feasible to pull off and get away with?
My plan that I've concocted would be something along the lines of kidnap from his house through a combination of means of tazer, threatening at gunpoint, mace/pepperspray, and a high dose of flunitrazepam so he's unconscience. Then, take a bunch of his money and personal info so it looks like he overdrew a credit card and fled, and plant some trace cocaine powder for investigators, so his memory has a whole lot less reverence to it. Meanwhile, I drive him into the woods, torture(I'm genuinely convinced that wouldn't be unethical), and dispose with his body with hydroflouric acid.
Again, would that be feasible? What about the listed method?
In my country, we have a term for this kind of operation. We call it a "bad idea."
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I still vote in favor of gunning him down with a remote controlled helicopter.
looool nice ideia actually xD would pay to see this live