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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: p3nd8s on November 07, 2012, 04:15 am
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Hi All,
I'm a new vendor and by popular demand my first offering is scopolamine sourced direct from S. America. It is the same drug used by the CIA for interrogations as a truth serum and for persuasion. At the same time it is also used for combatting sea sickness, among other medical uses (see listing).
Looking forward to serving you and if you have any questions I'll be happy to help.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/eaa2f1d4ba
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Interesting, I've never seen this offered on the SR. Might be buying some.
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Could you provide information on the dosages? I am interested in doing chem bondage with my boyfriend and this looks like the best stuff for it.
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i wana freakin teach my teacher a lesson with this stuff lol
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Could you provide information on the dosages? I am interested in doing chem bondage with my boyfriend and this looks like the best stuff for it.
Read experience reports on Erowid, seems like 10mg and under would get you going.
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I hesitate to give dosage recommendations as that would depend on body weight, age, metabolism, and other factors, especially since overdosing can result in death.
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I hesitate to give dosage recommendations as that would depend on body weight, age, metabolism, and other factors, especially since overdosing can result in death.
Could you give a rough idea of mg\kg dosage just for say a healthy middle aged male or female? And possibly a distinction between say a dose you would add to an ayahuasca brew and one to lul somebody into a false sense of hypnotic security? (Not expecting this from you p3nd8s, more of an open question to anybody who knows)
Edit: Scratch that, found something here...
"It is currently used by NASA for motion sickness. But the dosage use for legal uses is .33 milligrams. Used in high doses of 5-7 milligrams it can render a victim into a zombie state and at 10 milligrams produce coma then death.
The drug also known as Burundanga is nicknamed Devils Breath by those who use it to commit crimes or get high. But the overdose and death rate of those using the drug illegally is extremely high, as much as 50%."
So maybe clarification on a safe dose would be awesome.
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I don't think there is such a thing as a safe dosage with this drug.
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WATCH THESE CLEARNET VIDEO LINKS
http://www.vice.com/vice-news/colombian-devil-s-breath-1-of-2
http://www.vice.com/vice-news/colombian-devil-s-breath-2-of-2
WATCH THESE CLEARNET VIDEO LINKS
Honestly its a quite interesting watch. But after you will decide weather or not you actually want to do this drug.
Personally i would never do this drug. Why not just do a shit ton of acid? :D. But really guys, if you do this drug please approach with caution and do as much research as possible. Most importantly watch those videos
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WATCH THESE CLEARNET VIDEO LINKS
http://www.vice.com/vice-news/colombian-devil-s-breath-1-of-2
http://www.vice.com/vice-news/colombian-devil-s-breath-2-of-2
WATCH THESE CLEARNET VIDEO LINKS
Honestly its a quite interesting watch. But after you will decide weather or not you actually want to do this drug.
Personally i would never do this drug. Why not just do a shit ton of acid? :D. But really guys, if you do this drug please approach with caution and do as much research as possible. Most importantly watch those videos
I have seen these which is why I want to use Scop for chemical bondage. Since there isn't a lot of information out there, I think the dealer is obligated to post dosage info along side the ad.
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Who will be the first to dare to try this? I can't wait to see the feedback. Welcome to Silk Road.
What is scopalamine you ask? Ask Dementia Black. You can make anyone do anything you want. Be careful with this stuff.
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I have updated the listing to include dosage recommendations. The LD50 was obtained from the Duke database that is funded and used by the USDA (US Dept. of Agriculture), IMO the most reliable source.
Dosage Guidelines:
0.33mg orally for combatting sea sickness
5mg - 10mg for a zombifying effect, some people may have a higher tolerance, so if you don't see the desired effect in 30-45 minutes, increase by another 5mg. Even if administered 15mg, it is still way below the lethal dose.
The lethal dose is indicated by LD50 (the lethal dosage with a 50% chance of death). According to Dr. Duke's Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical Databases the LD50 for scopolamine in adult rats intravenously (250gram weight) is 17mg/kg.
Scopolamine can be taken orally, it can be insufflated, taken intravenously, subdermally, and transdermally. Readily passes through mucous membranes.
It is soluble in water and has no taste or smell.
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For chem bondage I'd recommend 7mg and working your way up from there. It can be dissolved in water and drank, sprinkled on food, etc. Practically every way you can think of.
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You are awesome!
I am bokmarking ya so when I buy more coins you will have an eager customer.
Also if this stuff kills me I am going to be pissed! ::)
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Also if this stuff kills me I am going to be pissed! ::)
hahahahha
well i dont know what your budget is but just get extra so you can start at like 5mg and work you way up for saftey sake.
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i would say start with 2.5ish mgs initially rather than 7 and don't go over 7. keep in mind also anything less than 10 mgs is pretty much fucking impossible to see and it's going to pretty much just look like residue.
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I really don't like the idea of this drug coming onto SR, what's next nerve gas? Most people buying this are going to use it to rob, torture and rape people, it's not a recreational drug. I think there is even less legit uses for this stuff than for cyanide and personally I think it's an even more sinister chemical because of what it can be so effectively used for. Just read up on the horrific shit that goes on Colombia with scopolamine or watch that VICE documentary, it's scary to think that scopolamine is making its way into other countries. I don't think things like anthrax, scopolamine, etc should be sold here. Don't mean to sound like a party pooper to all the rapist robbers out there but I don't approve.
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This stuff is pretty scary. Have you tried (on yourself or otherwise) p3nd8s?
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This stuff is pretty scary. Have you tried (on yourself or otherwise) p3nd8s?
All I will say is it works as described. There are many uses that can vary depending on the dosage as described in the listing.
It may take some experimentation with dosage to suit your purpose, there are many possibilities.
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arrived DAMN quick to EU!!!!
haven't tried it yet but I will let ya all know how it works / feels !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
only the best
quap
` don't drink and drive ;
don't smoke and fly ;
take LSD and TELEPORT! `
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anyone with a real account recieved? 300 + posts please these other accounts could be shill. rather be safe than sorry with this shit
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crazy ass drug.
no one in their right mind would do this voluntarily
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I have read a lot about this substance. Vice and all that.
My question is: Is there any recreational use for this?
simply a "no" would be fine.
but if "yes" could someone describe? ....curious here.
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I have updated the listing to include dosage recommendations. The LD50 was obtained from the Duke database that is funded and used by the USDA (US Dept. of Agriculture), IMO the most reliable source.
Dosage Guidelines:
0.33mg orally for combatting sea sickness
5mg - 10mg for a zombifying effect, some people may have a higher tolerance, so if you don't see the desired effect in 30-45 minutes, increase by another 5mg. Even if administered 15mg, it is still way below the lethal dose.
The lethal dose is indicated by LD50 (the lethal dosage with a 50% chance of death). According to Dr. Duke's Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical Databases the LD50 for scopolamine in adult rats intravenously (250gram weight) is 17mg/kg.
Scopolamine can be taken orally, it can be insufflated, taken intravenously, subdermally, and transdermally. Readily passes through mucous membranes.
It is soluble in water and has no taste or smell.
Ok, so taking the information of all the sources you've provided here and through our PM's, the oral dose is as follows for obtaining a zombified effect:
Base IV Dose Guide: 10mg
Lowest Oral BioA Dose: 20.01mg
Highest Oral BioA Dose: 82.64mg
Mean Oral BioA Dose: 41.13mg
Median Oral BioA Dose: 36.79mg
Spread: +/- (+)8.03mg
To keep it simple, if you're taking an oral dosage of this stuff for whatever reason to achieve the zombie effect (which I don't recommend doing on yourself unless you've got somebody ready to save your ass), start very very low. I'd say start at an oral dose of around 15mg and work up by 5mg per dose. If you're getting into the 80mg region, just stop and go no further unless you're willing to put your life on the line. Taking 50mg of this stuff to some people it can seem like child's play to some and completely debilitate others. There is some mysterious "Compound 9" too which I've been hunting down to no avail which can apparently reverse scopolamine in action, but I'm yet to find out what this compound is so any info/pointers would be lovely :).
Compound 9
5-{2-Fluoro-5-[3-(3-hydroxy-2-methoxycarbonyl-phenoxy)-propenyl]-phenyl}-isoxazole-3-carboxylic acid
Synonyms: CHEMBL117869, DB02014, AC1L9LH8, 1q1m, Isoxazole carboxylic acid analog 1
Clearnet warning:
https://www.wikigenes.org/e/chem/e/447994.html
Compound 9 (1mg/kg, i.p.) was fully efficacious in reverting scopolamine-induced amnesia in mice
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So keep taking more,, until you become zombies and then hope you can remember how much that was.
When you can not get up to measure and eat more...you have reached good doesages. haha
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I have orderd Scolopamine from P3nd8s and this is a pm i just send to him :
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I still have your product and not used it, but can you explain me why in the docu from Vice they say they hold a map and when the person comes close and smells it it kicks in very fast. So this is not the same or what??????? I read on forum long waiting times while real datura in the docu just from opening the package in the car they had to open the windows because the driver even felt a light buzz and it was shown after the driver his seat!!
So i want to know that map trick for asking the way on a person and max 2 min later it kicks in that is the real stuff. But i have to know how they do it on the map do they first use a little bit off gleu and sprinkel some dust on it, and how many?? Even when they interviewd that black girl who is a hooker that tells on camera that the first time she used it she and a friend went knocking on a older lady her door for asking food...and then the girl just whipped the paper with the Scolopamine in the lady her face and she drops in an instant.
So the real stuff should work as fast as they show in the vice docu. Or is this not washed with chemicals?? Because the man that they follow in the docu says that that it also needs the same chem wash as cocaine. And he also shows and tell that somebody passes by and then he does that blowing thing from his hand, but you have to do it like you sneeze or have a cold and cough. I know that you do not step to a person in full site and then blow something in the face or at least that the dust is airborne...i know you have to do it sneeky or in a drink.
Have you even watched the docu because i opend your order and it was wrapped in ............. and i had a CLOSE look at it and....i felt nothing and the powder layed open on my desk for 15min in my small bedroom and then i closed it because i was chatting and i didn't feel anything at all !??!!
I do not gone change my score or so but maybe you can point out the mistakes i have made.
Have a nice day!!
Greettzz
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So anybody an experience or a tip?
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Guess who's putting this shit his managers coffee?
Bitches love Scolopamine.
On a serious note, I'm definitely buying this thing. You never know when you need it :D
Option 1:
Get a very rich fuck to take you home and give you all the money, jewelery and allow you to get a blowjob from his wife.
Option 2:
Please, but PLEASE don't fuck your sister or mom! It's gorse!!!
Option 3:
Buy 1 kg and conquer the world. Please contact me for further details on conquering the world. OUT
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I have orderd Scolopamine from P3nd8s and this is a pm i just send to him :
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I still have your product and not used it, but can you explain me why in the docu from Vice they say they hold a map and when the person comes close and smells it it kicks in very fast. So this is not the same or what??????? I read on forum long waiting times while real datura in the docu just from opening the package in the car they had to open the windows because the driver even felt a light buzz and it was shown after the driver his seat!!
So i want to know that map trick for asking the way on a person and max 2 min later it kicks in that is the real stuff. But i have to know how they do it on the map do they first use a little bit off gleu and sprinkel some dust on it, and how many?? Even when they interviewd that black girl who is a hooker that tells on camera that the first time she used it she and a friend went knocking on a older lady her door for asking food...and then the girl just whipped the paper with the Scolopamine in the lady her face and she drops in an instant.
So the real stuff should work as fast as they show in the vice docu. Or is this not washed with chemicals?? Because the man that they follow in the docu says that that it also needs the same chem wash as cocaine. And he also shows and tell that somebody passes by and then he does that blowing thing from his hand, but you have to do it like you sneeze or have a cold and cough. I know that you do not step to a person in full site and then blow something in the face or at least that the dust is airborne...i know you have to do it sneeky or in a drink.
Have you even watched the docu because i opend your order and it was wrapped in ............. and i had a CLOSE look at it and....i felt nothing and the powder layed open on my desk for 15min in my small bedroom and then i closed it because i was chatting and i didn't feel anything at all !??!!
I do not gone change my score or so but maybe you can point out the mistakes i have made.
Have a nice day!!
Greettzz
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So anybody an experience or a tip?
We all saw the "docu" what they were doing was blowing it in "victims" faces. the same effect as snorting it.
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I have orderd Scolopamine from P3nd8s and this is a pm i just send to him :
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I still have your product and not used it, but can you explain me why in the docu from Vice they say they hold a map and when the person comes close and smells it it kicks in very fast. So this is not the same or what??????? I read on forum long waiting times while real datura in the docu just from opening the package in the car they had to open the windows because the driver even felt a light buzz and it was shown after the driver his seat!!
So i want to know that map trick for asking the way on a person and max 2 min later it kicks in that is the real stuff. But i have to know how they do it on the map do they first use a little bit off gleu and sprinkel some dust on it, and how many?? Even when they interviewd that black girl who is a hooker that tells on camera that the first time she used it she and a friend went knocking on a older lady her door for asking food...and then the girl just whipped the paper with the Scolopamine in the lady her face and she drops in an instant.
So the real stuff should work as fast as they show in the vice docu. Or is this not washed with chemicals?? Because the man that they follow in the docu says that that it also needs the same chem wash as cocaine. And he also shows and tell that somebody passes by and then he does that blowing thing from his hand, but you have to do it like you sneeze or have a cold and cough. I know that you do not step to a person in full site and then blow something in the face or at least that the dust is airborne...i know you have to do it sneeky or in a drink.
Have you even watched the docu because i opend your order and it was wrapped in ............. and i had a CLOSE look at it and....i felt nothing and the powder layed open on my desk for 15min in my small bedroom and then i closed it because i was chatting and i didn't feel anything at all !??!!
I do not gone change my score or so but maybe you can point out the mistakes i have made.
Have a nice day!!
Greettzz
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So anybody an experience or a tip?
We all saw the "docu" what they were doing was blowing it in "victims" faces. the same effect as snorting it.
???....Don't take this wrong but why do you give such an answer :D ? It has no value...i mean i saw this docu a while ago and of course i know that it is the same effect duh ;)
I have chatted with the seller so no more questions for this moment
greettzz
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Map trick=
Hold map open over victims drinks whilst they sit at table, release into drink whilst asking for directions. (Not powder, make up a liquid solution in dropper bottle otherwise it might just fall to the bottom of the glass)
I don't know what scopolamine taste like or how well it dissolves.
Insufflation would be the quickest onset so..
A better method would be to leave this around in a small ziplock
-Possibly combine with small amounts of ketamine to increase effect or flavor with cocaine/lidocaine so that it appears to be coke. only an idiot will sniff an unknown off-white/yellowish powder.
to plug your nose with cotton wool, put substance on your lip and walk up to someone (you'd have to be a chick to do this, ideally) sounds dangerous. i wouldn't attempt this.
maybe put the stuff in a ciggarette or bong, and offer someone a huge hit.
or E-cig, i don't know..
If youre going to try this recreationally (people say it can be a little demonic and scary (think gargoyle hallucinations, blood running down walls, phantom cigarettes etc, but you're sorta relaxed rather than anxious)
have a read of erowid on scopolamine experiences. make sure to set your webcam up to record because you'll forget most of what happened and it seems not being able to remember can be an absolute mindfuck.
Rather than giving it to someone and risk all the trouble, maybe try offering it to an experienced psychonaut with a little warning about it being "hardcore", then at least you can say "I told you so" afterwards.
I don't have any interest in this stuff, I read too many negative reports many years ago which deterred me from personal use with the herb.
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This is rather interesting I keep reading on deliriants and my curiosity grows stronger every day I my consider buy some of this in the near future :)
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Greetings!
Many keep asking this question so I will list the following updated dosages and activation times for the zombifying effect:
1. IV (intravenous - injection into vein): 15mg-30mg, should take effect in less than 4 minutes
2. Sniffing it (insufflation) will require higher dosage than IV: 20-50mg, should take effect in less than 15 minutes.
3. Oral (mixed in a drink or sprinkled on food) 15mg-80mg, will take effect in 30-45minutes.
4. Transdermal (through the skin) - you need about 50mg-100mg, advisable to mix it with DMSO cream (70%) at a 1:1 ratio.
You can apply the mixture directly on the persons skin, or put it on an object that the person will touch like a door knob, car door handle, keys,
brochure, flyer, business card, etc. Transdermal is the slowest to take effect, up to 1hr.
Don't blow it into somebody's face, it may result in a confrontation by the time it kicks in.
Mixing it with MDMA will also help. The empathogenic effect of MDMA + zombifying effect of scopolamine will definitely get the job done. But the mdma will have to be given orally (mixed in a drink or sprinkled on food). The other way is to powderize the mdma and mix it into DMSO cream along with the scopoalmine and apply it to the skin. A dash of ketamine will also have a synergistic effect.
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How is the anterograde amnesia on this drug? As in, what's the likelihood that someone is going to remember that they were completely fucking wrecked? Does the day that they're inebriated on scop just disappear from their memory?
Quite interested in this compound.
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How is the anterograde amnesia on this drug? As in, what's the likelihood that someone is going to remember that they were completely fucking wrecked? Does the day that they're inebriated on scop just disappear from their memory?
Quite interested in this compound.
The anterograde amnesia effects of the drug are very widely published/covered in medical literature. Likelihood is almost certain that they will not remember anything while they were under the influence of scopolamine. This of course would depend on the dosage, please refer to the previous post in the thread with the recommended dosage guidelines.
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still no experience reports from buyers. tisk tisk
:begins referring to erowid.org for more info:
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this substance occurs naturally in the Datura Stramonium plant.
from wiki:
All parts of Datura plants contain dangerous levels of the tropane alkaloids atropine, hyoscyamine and scopolamine which are classified as deliriants, or anticholinergics. There is a high risk of fatal overdose amongst uninformed users, and many hospitalizations occur amongst recreational users who ingest the plant for its psychoactive effects.
take care when using this drug!
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Greetings!
Many keep asking this question so I will list the following updated dosages and activation times for the zombifying effect:
1. IV (intravenous - injection into vein): 15mg-30mg, should take effect in less than 4 minutes
2. Sniffing it (insufflation) will require higher dosage than IV: 20-50mg, should take effect in less than 15 minutes.
3. Oral (mixed in a drink or sprinkled on food) 15mg-80mg, will take effect in 30-45minutes.
4. Transdermal (through the skin) - you need about 50mg-100mg, advisable to mix it with DMSO cream (70%) at a 1:1 ratio.
You can apply the mixture directly on the persons skin, or put it on an object that the person will touch like a door knob, car door handle, keys,
brochure, flyer, business card, etc. Transdermal is the slowest to take effect, up to 1hr.
Don't blow it into somebody's face, it may result in a confrontation by the time it kicks in.
Mixing it with MDMA will also help. The empathogenic effect of MDMA + zombifying effect of scopolamine will definitely get the job done. But the mdma will have to be given orally (mixed in a drink or sprinkled on food). The other way is to powderize the mdma and mix it into DMSO cream along with the scopoalmine and apply it to the skin. A dash of ketamine will also have a synergistic effect.
1.What are the effects when taken with alcohol?
2. How long does the zombie effect last on average? (I know it depends on the dosage ... lets say 25mg orally)
and when you say the LD50 is 17mg/kg does that mean for each kg you weigh it takes 17mg? Im asking just to make sureeee
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basically, if you weigh 75 kilogram and you take a gram or more - 50/50 chance that youll die
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I find it quite amusing there's people willing to take this drug recreationally, but hey different strokes for different folks. It would be cool to read some trip reports here from buyers for sure, not that I'd ever take it myself but it would be very interesting to know more about what it feels like from someone who's actually done it in a controlled setting. If anyone ever really pisses me off or does something to my loved ones, I'll be sure to buy this stuff and use it to get some payback, but other than that I can't see myself ordering it.
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posting for updates
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1.What are the effects when taken with alcohol?
2. How long does the zombie effect last on average? (I know it depends on the dosage ... lets say 25mg orally)
and when you say the LD50 is 17mg/kg does that mean for each kg you weigh it takes 17mg? Im asking just to make sureeee
When taken with alcohol the effects are synergistic, the alcohol helps the scopolamine do its job better, making the person more submissive and open to suggestions.
The average time it lasts is 4 hours.
The LD50 is just as Alicia explained, it is the dosage with a 50/50 chance of death, for example a 75kg subject has a 50/50 chance of dying if administered 1 gram of scopolamine.
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I remember the last time someone tried to sell tropane alkloid on here and I don't think it went over so well.
They are basically Deleriant Date-Rape Poisons. And they are therefore not in harmony with The Silk Roads Vision of Harm reduction and so forth. Sure there may be a few dumbasses that are will to try it on themselves but these are the same kind of people that will take rohypnol to find out what it feels like, or those kids you hear about that try trumpet trees and ago on a three day rampage and end up in the hospital.
Speaking of which, these substances are so prevalent throughout the world that there is no real reason for ANYONE to need to pay for them......
The Tropane Alkaloids: Atropine, Scopolamine, and Hyoscyamine are present in SHITLOADS of plants all around you. Some of the more popular ones include:
Datura, Jimsonweed(Jamsetown Weed), Brugmansia (Angel Trumpet tree), Brunfelsia, Belladonna (Deadly Nightshade), Henbane (Devils Eyes) etc....
You will notice that virtually every single one of these plants is typically listed as a highly poisonous plant (for good reason) and the only time you ever hear about them is when some child dies from eating one of them or a FOAF decides to try one (usually trumpet trees) because he heard that it would "make him trip balls" and they inevitably end up in the hospital for being massive dehydrated and chasing traffic while wearing nothing but his moms underwear around his head and sporting a massive erection....all the while screaming about how the government is in league with little green men to steal his toe clippings and sodomize his cat
And if you REALLY REALLY wanna go there, Then dont spend your precious Bitcoins on someone who care more about money then harm reduction. Chances are one of those plants grows in your area (or you can acquire it somewhere at a cheaper price. All you need to do is a simple CWE to get a a relative pure product. (that's what they do in south America) Or an A/B extract if you really wanna go all out but its really not needed.
And when your dealing with something as dangerous as this you REALLY should learn about the plant before you just buy something all willy-nilly and start dosing your-self and others with it in a purified form
And that's my 2 cents on the subject
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I remember the last time someone tried to sell tropane alkloid on here and I don't think it went over so well.
They are basically Deleriant Date-Rape Poisons. And they are therefore not in harmony with The Silk Roads Vision of Harm reduction and so forth. Sure there may be a few dumbasses that are will to try it on themselves but these are the same kind of people that will take rohypnol to find out what it feels like, or those kids you hear about that try trumpet trees and ago on a three day rampage and end up in the hospital.
Cocaine is also a tropane alkaloid and of course if anyone takes the same lethal dosage of 1 gram will have a 50/50 chance of dying.
Scopolamine also has a plethora of medical uses such as fighting sea sickness, fighting depression, addiction, etc. People buy it for different reasons.
Speaking of which, these substances are so prevalent throughout the world that there is no real reason for ANYONE to need to pay for them......
The Tropane Alkaloids: Atropine, Scopolamine, and Hyoscyamine are present in SHITLOADS of plants all around you. Some of the more popular ones include:
Datura, Jimsonweed(Jamsetown Weed), Brugmansia (Angel Trumpet tree), Brunfelsia, Belladonna (Deadly Nightshade), Henbane (Devils Eyes) etc....
You are right, scopolamine is prevalent in many plants. However isolating it, purifying, and standardizing the extract is beyond the ability of anyone outside of a laboratory environment.
You will notice that virtually every single one of these plants is typically listed as a highly poisonous plant (for good reason) and the only time you ever hear about them is when some child dies from eating one of them or a FOAF decides to try one (usually trumpet trees) because he heard that it would "make him trip balls" and they inevitably end up in the hospital for being massive dehydrated and chasing traffic while wearing nothing but his moms underwear around his head and sporting a massive erection....all the while screaming about how the government is in league with little green men to steal his toe clippings and sodomize his cat
The scopolamine I sell is highly purified and isolated resulting in 99% purity, unlike the tea or extracts done by amateurs that don't even know the purity of the substance they just extracted and therefore the safe dosage. Again, there are many uses for scopolamine published in medical journals.
And if you REALLY REALLY wanna go there, Then dont spend your precious Bitcoins on someone who care more about money then harm reduction. Chances are one of those plants grows in your area (or you can acquire it somewhere at a cheaper price. All you need to do is a simple CWE to get a a relative pure product. (that's what they do in south America) Or an A/B extract if you really wanna go all out but its really not needed.
And when your dealing with something as dangerous as this you REALLY should learn about the plant before you just buy something all willy-nilly and start dosing your-self and others with it in a purified form
Cocaine, heroin, metamphetamine, etc sold on this site are also harmful, but this is the point of the Silk Road, to provide an anonymous marketplace for drugs where people make their own decisions on what to do with their body, and not the government. Again, extracting, isolating, and purifying scopolamine needs a fully equipped laboratory and skilled technicians to achieve, which is beyond the ability of most people here. Scopolamine is a very useful substance to those who know what to do with it, and just as with any other drug, it has benefits and side effects.
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Although its true that cocaine is also a tropane alkaloid as well, the similarities end there. Much like Meth and MDMA they share a similar chemical but the effect profiles are worlds apart (only the difference in effect between cocaine and these delirious poisons is even greater)
And although there are some legit uses for these chemicals, the difference in dosage between those useful effects and what most people on here are going to be using it for is enormous. And nobody is likely to buy them on here for those medical purposes (its easy as hell to get this stuff from a doctor in the proper dosage if that was the case). And I don't think that I saw anyone mention using it for any of those purposes in this thread either (mostly people that are looking to use it for devious purposes like revenge and whatnot)
And since these devious purposes seem to be the primary purpose for which people are buying it on here they really don't need your extra purified version either (do you think the witch doctors use a lab to make their voodoo powder?.......Hell no)
AND although the other drugs sold on here CAN be harmful there is a big difference.....the average person is not interested in buying them to drug an unsuspecting person for devious purposes. They are buying them to use/sell in a semi-responsible manner. And regardless of what you may think about this website, harm reduction IS one its primary purposes (Go ask DPR if you don't believe me) Why do you think people selling date rape drugs don't last very long on here?
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I'm worried about your karma p3nd8s, not your SR karma, your real one.
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I saw somewhere this is used to rob people because they became zombies..
does this product does that or what?
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I saw somewhere this is used to rob people because they became zombies..
does this product does that or what?
YOU SEE!!!!
That is what people primarily think of when they think of these substances. And anything that is going to be used to harm others 9 times out 10 does not belong on the Road.
Why do you think all of the weapons were removed and put in the armory?
@ paxous: Learn to use a google or some other search engine.......but thanks for helping to prove my point
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Ugh.. zombie effect? no, it's delirium, for the true zombie effect you need that paralyzing chemical found in a fish.
Scopolamine actually is quite a useful drug, its the best anti-nausea drug in existence, it will potenate weed, any downers and even psychedelics.
For that you want just a small amount, dab your finger onto a small part of the foil which has little specks stuck, or just one of the larger specks and it should do the job.
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Harmful drugs are sold all over the road, its down to users to not harm themselves or others around them. The environment the documentary is shot in is war-torn and poverty stricken, of course its going to be used for exploitation. generally speaking i think people using the road arnt going to have the same motives
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AND although the other drugs sold on here CAN be harmful there is a big difference.....the average person is not interested in buying them to drug an unsuspecting person for devious purposes. They are buying them to use/sell in a semi-responsible manner. And regardless of what you may think about this website, harm reduction IS one its primary purposes (Go ask DPR if you don't believe me) Why do you think people selling date rape drugs don't last very long on here?
Well, regardless of what you or DPR may think, many users on SR don't give a damn about harm reduction and are here for money, drugs, and/or power.
I didn't come here to prevent X from taking Y, or to tell X to take Y a certain way, that's what Bluelight and Drug Forums (God that shit is fucking annoying, SWIM'S CAT'S DOG'S TURTLE'S BROTHER - yeah that sure will help protect your ass against LE) are for.
Personally, if I could stop some dumbass from dosing up someone else with this shit I would. What's stopping people here from dosing others tho? Same shit man. The same fucked up guy will prolly dose girls up with E without their consent. It's not about the drugs, it's about the people.
For now tho... I think this should be allowed.
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Try smoking a little with weed, I stress a little.
I do this with mandrake root and its the only way to take that because that stuff has mandragorine which is also a purgative taken orally.
It doesnt make you delerious this way, just alters your surroundings a little, sort of changes your awareness and allows you feel threshold effects.
It has a mildly relaxing effect and makes everything sorta off-color. Make sure your a little stoned first, otherwise theres no potentiation and no point.
It's also great when mixed with MDMA I hear, which I call Zombieflipping.
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There really is minimal recreational use for it.
We have a self-destructive friend who wanted to try it because "I heard it was intense."
We pretty much built a padded room for him and another friend, lined everything with wrestling mats and pillows.
He took ~7-8mg. The other friend took a little less.
Almost two days where they don't remember almost anything except feeling extreme thirst that drinking (water + powerade) wouldn't help much, nausea, diarrhea, cramps, delirium/hallucinations (less seeing God or colors, more like how movies depict bad trips),
crying and so on. We took shifts checking on them. The 2nd guy seemed to snap out of it in the first morning, but the first guy kept getting worse behaviorally, until we administered 1mg alprazolam, then another 0.5mg 2 hours later and he spent the last 8 hours just curled up on the cot we set up for him, sometimes coming to, sometimes talking to us when we weren't even in there with him, and when we were, he'd talk about shit we never said.
One of his girlfriends is a nurse and she'd check his BP, heart rate, etc. and it was elevated but not dangerous, same with temperature. He doesn't like to talk about it (like most situations where we pee or shit ourselves I guess),
but did say "it did the opposite of what DMT did for my life."
This is not about "SWIM" - if you want to try it even lightly, use EXTREME CAUTION.
It's a dumb thing to do, but we've all done dumb things and sometimes need to do dumb things.
If you dose someone without their full knowledge and consent, fuck you, really.
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No one's reported back on their experience because they forgot....guess that means it works? Hell, maybe I took some already.....
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The following are some user experiences as reported on the feedback of the listing:
"This is my second order ,
I used it one somebody and turned out that ......
THIS IS THE REAL DEAL , definitly does the job. need to learn how to handle well tho , can be very dangerous.
Please scope responsibly . ;)
(best seller on SR so far)"
"Nice quick delivery, and good packaging.
It's definitely the real stuff, and potent as hell. Careful with this stuff, after reading about it I felt safe trying a tiny bit of it just to for curiosity sake. I just used my finger to wipe up and lick some of the residue left after transferring it to a different container. A little while later I had the worst dry mouth of my life, lack of coordination, and very mild, but noticeable, short term memory loss.
Also, and this is the best part, I must have accidentally touched my eye or face before washing my hands because I woke the next day with blurred vision and a dilated pupil in my right eye. Basically I felt every side effect of Scopolamine other than hallucinations, a hypnotic state, or death. My vision is returning to normal over the past day and a half, btw.
Very polite and responsive seller. Highly recommended!"
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If you have made a purchase previously, please post your reviews and experiences in this thread.
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Also purchased from this vendor, absolutely no problems. I had/have low stats so I was asked to FE, which I obliged based on seller reputation and this review thread not containing any red flags.
Purchase came extremely quickly, very discreet and packaged well. Product appears to be real Burundanga, but I have not had an opportunity to test it as it was just recently received.
So far, this vendor is A-grade in my book, for service and communication.
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you people are hardcore lol
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there exists another kind of person who will buy this substance - collectors of rare compounds. I agree that there is no good use for this, the people purchasing this are invariably thinking of how they are going to slip it into an unsuspecting girl's drink in order to rape her.
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I'm really interested to hear more peoples experience with scopolamine so please continue posting yours. Wether you used it your self or on someone else.
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I'm worried about your karma p3nd8s, not your SR karma, your real one.
2nd that
dont like this, is not a recreational drug and should be banned from SR
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I'm worried about your karma p3nd8s, not your SR karma, your real one.
2nd that
dont like this, is not a recreational drug and should be banned from SR
I agree with you guys. The most dangerous drug in the world..... and p3nd8s is trying to promote it as something of research and something that has benefit. This fucking drug has hardly any benefits and is EASILY abused to rape woman, and to steal from other innocent people. Imagine it was your daughter, or your sister that got raped from some dude that spiked a drink with this devil shit. If you want to make money sell other drugs, this one is just going to ruin lives my friend....
This man chooses Greed/money>Human safety.
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So what if scopolamine can be used to knock people out? so can GHB, pure benzos, pure opiates, any of that stuff can be used.. wanna ban them too huh?
As i said before, scopolamine is a very useful drug, stops nausea, increases the effects of weed, downers and psychedelics with just a couple of grains, ive had 100mg last me months, its much cheaper then buying it in travel sickness tablets.
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So what if scopolamine can be used to knock people out? so can GHB, pure benzos, pure opiates, any of that stuff can be used.. wanna ban them too huh?
As i said before, scopolamine is a very useful drug, stops nausea, increases the effects of weed, downers and psychedelics with just a couple of grains, ive had 100mg last me months, its much cheaper then buying it in travel sickness tablets.
GHB, pure benzos, and pure opiates are not so easy to spike in a drink, like scopolamine. It only takes grains of scopolamine to knock some one out, and for them to be easily manipulated. but yeah i care only so much, its not like i can stop this from happening. Im just saying, its very dangerous compared to the other recreational drugs. This is not so recreational, unless you want to feel like a zombie i guess.
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So what if scopolamine can be used to knock people out? so can GHB, pure benzos, pure opiates, any of that stuff can be used.. wanna ban them too huh?
As i said before, scopolamine is a very useful drug, stops nausea, increases the effects of weed, downers and psychedelics with just a couple of grains, ive had 100mg last me months, its much cheaper then buying it in travel sickness tablets.
GHB, pure benzos, and pure opiates are not so easy to spike in a drink, like scopolamine. It only takes grains of scopolamine to knock some one out, and for them to be easily manipulated. but yeah i care only so much, its not like i can stop this from happening. Im just saying, its very dangerous compared to the other recreational drugs. This is not so recreational, unless you want to feel like a zombie i guess.
GHB, Benzos and opiates have recreational value. Scopolamine doesn't, unless you enjoy being delirious and doing stupid shit.
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So what if scopolamine can be used to knock people out? so can GHB, pure benzos, pure opiates, any of that stuff can be used.. wanna ban them too huh?
As i said before, scopolamine is a very useful drug, stops nausea, increases the effects of weed, downers and psychedelics with just a couple of grains, ive had 100mg last me months, its much cheaper then buying it in travel sickness tablets.
GHB, pure benzos, and pure opiates are not so easy to spike in a drink, like scopolamine. It only takes grains of scopolamine to knock some one out, and for them to be easily manipulated. but yeah i care only so much, its not like i can stop this from happening. Im just saying, its very dangerous compared to the other recreational drugs. This is not so recreational, unless you want to feel like a zombie i guess.
GHB, Benzos and opiates have recreational value. Scopolamine doesn't, unless you enjoy being delirious and doing stupid shit.
Exactly... And i tell you also that if you REALLY want to experiment with that kind of substances, there are lots of plants about everywhere in the world which, with the proper informations first, are probably safer to work with...
plus, i can tell you that even if i made a lot of researches with lots of different substances, i've always steer clear from any datura-like plant (which are very common were i live...) especially after i've seen several times the effects on my friends.
just my 2 cts...
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So what if scopolamine can be used to knock people out? so can GHB, pure benzos, pure opiates, any of that stuff can be used.. wanna ban them too huh?
As i said before, scopolamine is a very useful drug, stops nausea, increases the effects of weed, downers and psychedelics with just a couple of grains, ive had 100mg last me months, its much cheaper then buying it in travel sickness tablets.
GHB, pure benzos, and pure opiates are not so easy to spike in a drink, like scopolamine. It only takes grains of scopolamine to knock some one out, and for them to be easily manipulated. but yeah i care only so much, its not like i can stop this from happening. Im just saying, its very dangerous compared to the other recreational drugs. This is not so recreational, unless you want to feel like a zombie i guess.
GHB, Benzos and opiates have recreational value. Scopolamine doesn't, unless you enjoy being delirious and doing stupid shit.
Exactly... And i tell you also that if you REALLY want to experiment with that kind of substances, there are lots of plants about everywhere in the world which, with the proper informations first, are probably safer to work with...
plus, i can tell you that even if i made a lot of researches with lots of different substances, i've always steer clear from any datura-like plant (which are very common were i live...) especially after i've seen several times the effects on my friends.
just my 2 cts...
I know GHB, Benzos and opiates have recreational value.... i never said it didn't, if you read my post clearly, im just talking about scopolamine being non-recreational. I just mentioned GHB, Benzos and opiates because you made it seem like it has the same potency as scopolamine. Its like saying, alcohol can be used to knock people out, so ban that too... Scopolamine is in a waaaay different class of drugs then all mentioned.
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hey magic ceelo, we are actually agree on the subject.. my post wasnt addressed to you. :)
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i was referring to scopolamine when i said "if you want to experiment with those substances", and that there are a lot of datura-like plants more or less everywhere in the world which are probably safer to work with, after a proper research about their dosage etc...
sorry my writing was misunderstandeble..
ppfld
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So what if scopolamine can be used to knock people out? so can GHB, pure benzos, pure opiates, any of that stuff can be used.. wanna ban them too huh?
As i said before, scopolamine is a very useful drug, stops nausea, increases the effects of weed, downers and psychedelics with just a couple of grains, ive had 100mg last me months, its much cheaper then buying it in travel sickness tablets.
GHB, pure benzos, and pure opiates are not so easy to spike in a drink, like scopolamine. It only takes grains of scopolamine to knock some one out, and for them to be easily manipulated. but yeah i care only so much, its not like i can stop this from happening. Im just saying, its very dangerous compared to the other recreational drugs. This is not so recreational, unless you want to feel like a zombie i guess.
What the fuck are you talking about? GHB and benzos are the most used drugs to spike a drink, plus they require less then what scopolamine does, 2mls of GHB, 2mg xanax, 500ug fentanyl and you need at least 10mgs scopolamine to get delirium, so its not as dangerous as its thought to be, also it is recreational in small amounts with other drugs like weed because it increases the effect.
Exactly... And i tell you also that if you REALLY want to experiment with that kind of substances, there are lots of plants about everywhere in the world which, with the proper informations first, are probably safer to work with...
plus, i can tell you that even if i made a lot of researches with lots of different substances, i've always steer clear from any datura-like plant (which are very common were i live...) especially after i've seen several times the effects on my friends.
just my 2 cts...
Plants? what the fuck? what is being sold is pure scopolamine, its not the same as datura, datura has two additional alkaloids, even the plant itself is ok if used carefully, like trying a small amount and working up, but the alkaloids can vary from plant to plant which is why these drugs have a bad reputation.
They may not be seen as recreational to everyone, but there are people out there who like delirium, its the same thing with dissociatives, although they aren't as unpopular as deliriants, plenty of people still don't like them, just because you don't like something, doesn't mean its not recreational.
i was referring to scopolamine when i said "if you want to experiment with those substances", and that there are a lot of datura-like plants more or less everywhere in the world which are probably safer to work with, after a proper research about their dosage etc...
sorry my writing was misunderstandeble..
ppfld
So you actually think the plants are safer then pure scopolamine? bloody hell, if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, don't say anything because you clearly don't and there is nothing worse then posting misinformation about drugs.
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So what if scopolamine can be used to knock people out? so can GHB, pure benzos, pure opiates, any of that stuff can be used.. wanna ban them too huh?
As i said before, scopolamine is a very useful drug, stops nausea, increases the effects of weed, downers and psychedelics with just a couple of grains, ive had 100mg last me months, its much cheaper then buying it in travel sickness tablets.
GHB, pure benzos, and pure opiates are not so easy to spike in a drink, like scopolamine. It only takes grains of scopolamine to knock some one out, and for them to be easily manipulated. but yeah i care only so much, its not like i can stop this from happening. Im just saying, its very dangerous compared to the other recreational drugs. This is not so recreational, unless you want to feel like a zombie i guess.
What the fuck are you talking about? GHB and benzos are the most used drugs to spike a drink, plus they require less then what scopolamine does, 2mls of GHB, 2mg xanax, 500ug fentanyl and you need at least 10mgs scopolamine to get delirium, so its not as dangerous as its thought to be, also it is recreational in small amounts with other drugs like weed because it increases the effect.
2mg xanax?? your not going to get anybody to do anything with that amount. 2mg xanax aint shit, it'll make you tired and happy, but Not knock you out. Plus you need pure alprazolam powder to spike a drink, not everyone has access to that. What are you going to crush up a bar and spike it in a drink?? hahaha thats retarted. GHB, 2mls of GHB, are you serious? that shit only last like 1-2 hours, and the effect are similar to alcohol. Its not going to make you lose control, and lose free will like scopolamine. It wont make you just listen to anybody. Scopolamine will make you do anything anybody tells you if your on enough of the stuff..... You think 2mg xanax, and GHB 2mls is going to do that?? you can dose somebody with scopolamine by blowing a little in their face..
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So what if scopolamine can be used to knock people out? so can GHB, pure benzos, pure opiates, any of that stuff can be used.. wanna ban them too huh?
As i said before, scopolamine is a very useful drug, stops nausea, increases the effects of weed, downers and psychedelics with just a couple of grains, ive had 100mg last me months, its much cheaper then buying it in travel sickness tablets.
GHB, pure benzos, and pure opiates are not so easy to spike in a drink, like scopolamine. It only takes grains of scopolamine to knock some one out, and for them to be easily manipulated. but yeah i care only so much, its not like i can stop this from happening. Im just saying, its very dangerous compared to the other recreational drugs. This is not so recreational, unless you want to feel like a zombie i guess.
What the fuck are you talking about? GHB and benzos are the most used drugs to spike a drink, plus they require less then what scopolamine does, 2mls of GHB, 2mg xanax, 500ug fentanyl and you need at least 10mgs scopolamine to get delirium, so its not as dangerous as its thought to be, also it is recreational in small amounts with other drugs like weed because it increases the effect.
2mg xanax?? your not going to get anybody to do anything with that amount. 2mg xanax aint shit, it'll make you tired and happy, but Not knock you out. Plus you need pure alprazolam powder to spike a drink, not everyone has access to that. What are you going to crush up a bar and spike it in a drink?? hahaha thats retarted. GHB, 2mls of GHB, are you serious? that shit only last like 1-2 hours, and the effect are similar to alcohol. Its not going to make you lose control, and lose free will like scopolamine. It wont make you just listen to anybody. Scopolamine will make you do anything anybody tells you if your on enough of the stuff..... You think 2mg xanax, and GHB 2mls is going to do that?? you can dose somebody with scopolamine by blowing a little in their face..
actually a 2mg bar will knock someone out if they don't have a tolerance. I don't take benzos so a bar knocks my ass out.
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So this stuff is a prodcut made from datura the plant?
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Greetings!
Many keep asking this question so I will list the following updated dosages and activation times for the zombifying effect:
1. IV (intravenous - injection into vein): 15mg-30mg, should take effect in less than 4 minutes
2. Sniffing it (insufflation) will require higher dosage than IV: 20-50mg, should take effect in less than 15 minutes.
3. Oral (mixed in a drink or sprinkled on food) 15mg-80mg, will take effect in 30-45minutes.
4. Transdermal (through the skin) - you need about 50mg-100mg, advisable to mix it with DMSO cream (70%) at a 1:1 ratio.
You can apply the mixture directly on the persons skin, or put it on an object that the person will touch like a door knob, car door handle, keys,
brochure, flyer, business card, etc. Transdermal is the slowest to take effect, up to 1hr.
Don't blow it into somebody's face, it may result in a confrontation by the time it kicks in.
Mixing it with MDMA will also help. The empathogenic effect of MDMA + zombifying effect of scopolamine will definitely get the job done. But the mdma will have to be given orally (mixed in a drink or sprinkled on food). The other way is to powderize the mdma and mix it into DMSO cream along with the scopoalmine and apply it to the skin. A dash of ketamine will also have a synergistic effect.
numerous Google sources from a quick browse appear to put the lethal dose at 7mg so could any survivors please post on this thread lol
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I will share two scenarios applicable to the discussion.
First, I have pretty severe hyper-alertness due to PTSD which means I don't really sleep. I have been through just about every medication possible and nothing works sustainably. The only thing that lets me function is modafinil/armodafinil plus a homemade stimulant stack(caffeine, dmaa, hordenine, etc.). Not a single doctor would prescribe for me so I self medicate the Provigil via SR.
Second, I just completed a 14 day offshore passage on a large sailboat. I have past experience with dramamine, bonine, and scopolamine. Scopolamine is the only thing that works for me so I understandably asked my doc for an Rx before I left for the trip. Even after showing them all of my travel arrangements they still would not prescribe it because of the potential misuse and instead told me to take a double dose of dramamine. If I knew this listing existed I would have bought it and used my microgram scale to carefully prepare extended release doses. Since I didn't I and my crew spent quite a few days being horribly seasick in rough weather.
TL;DR, there is a very legitimate reason to buy any drug and that is the overly paternalistic medical system that think they know better than you what should go into your body.
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numerous Google sources from a quick browse appear to put the lethal dose at 7mg so could any survivors please post on this thread lol
At 7mg, that is the lethal dose for small lab animals (guinea pigs, rats, etc). For humans the LD50 is approximately 1g @ 75kg body weight.
And yes, it is extracted and purified from the Datura plant species.
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but that is what is stated for humans
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but that is what is stated for humans
Where? Can you reference a source?
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just do a google search
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just do a google search
I've done my research, you haven't. That's why you can't provide a reference!
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can i get you to cite me some references or can someone who has used it pleas post in this thread
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can i get you to cite me some references or can someone who has used it pleas post in this thread
According to Dr. Duke's Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical Databases the LD50 for scopolamine in adult rats intravenously (250gram weight) is 17mg/kg. If we take the same ratio, the LD50 for a 75kg human would be 1.125grams.
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can i get you to cite me some references or can someone who has used it pleas post in this thread
According to Dr. Duke's Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical Databases the LD50 for scopolamine in adult rats intravenously (250gram weight) is 17mg/kg. If we take the same ratio, the LD50 for a 75kg human would be 1.125grams.
Link?
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http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke/
Click on "Lethal dose (LD) information for a chemical"
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http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke/
Click on "Lethal dose (LD) information for a chemical"
that appears to be the plant not the concentrated powder
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No, a scientific study on a chemical substance would never consider the plant to publish results. They will always use the pure chemical to conduct the tests and to publish the results.
And if someone doesn't want to make the search, here is the link to the complete information, with the dosages needed to produce one effect or another, and the LD50 at the bottom :
--CLEARNET--
http://sun.ars-grin.gov:8080/npgspub/xsql/duke/chemdisp.xsql?chemical=SCOPOLAMINE
--CLEARNET--
For instance, for a sedative effect on a rat :
Sedative - Dosage: 13 mg/kg scu rat [BBE]
So I am not at all a professional in these kind of things, but I highly doubt for the LD50 for a human to be around 7mg.
My two cents.
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even on that documentary on it they said a gram is enough to kill 10-15 people not a LD50 of 7mg but still much lower than your stating
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I heard the Astronauts use a blend of Scopolamine and Amphetmaine, called Scopamfet or something to combat space-sickness and vertigo. It is dangerous stuff, I have read in Junkie not to mix with opiates, but I don't know what to make of that. It sound groovy if you know what you are doing, just like DOM or something else. With DOM you could be worse off than with Scop, because it is so much more stimulating and longer acting. I don't know what to think about it, but I'll definitely look into it.
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Seriously p3nd8s we need a Scopolamine lotto, just for fun :D
best regards!
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even on that documentary on it they said a gram is enough to kill 10-15 people not a LD50 of 7mg but still much lower than your stating
same. the dealer in columbia on that documentary said a gram was enough to kill 10 people if i remember correctly.
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we need a survivor to post in this thread
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I have first hand experience trying high oral dose of pure scopolamine on a willing test subject in a controlled setting. If you have experience with scopolamine PM me I'm interested to exchange informations.
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I have first hand experience trying high oral dose of pure scopolamine on a willing test subject in a controlled setting. If you have experience with scopolamine PM me I'm interested to exchange informations.
I have first hand experience trying high oral dose of pure scopolamine on a willing test subject in a controlled setting. If you have experience with scopolamine PM me I'm interested to exchange informations.
why not post the experience so others who are going to use it might be able to be better informed on proper doses ect. info should be public not private.
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the words "high dose" associated with "willing subject" make me think that one of these pairs is false.
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idk who would be willing to try any dose of this let alone a high dose lol. i just wanna know what an appropriate dose is for zombie like state. also curious if anyone knows, do people just do what you tell them when given scopolamine or do you have to really try to pursuade them. would be better if they would just do what you tell them, no questions asked.
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when solubing this in water, how much water does one need per 100 mg ? or is it better to use alcohol?
talking solubing it in water / alc for easier dosing.
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so nobody has posted any feedback on actually using this stuff? amazing
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ya i know im really hoping someone steps up and gives a review on their experiance of using the stuff on their own self or another person if anyone actually has done it......
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you can find trip reports on youtube. e.g. there is a girl living in south america (peru) i think and doing all kind of drugs. also nice to look at and well articulate. she said that it is a strong hallucinogen + while she was on it, she had no idea that the illusions were not real. compared to shrooms and more or less all other kinds of hallucinogens.
what i got out of it, what was said in the vice docu might be more or less true. just narrowed down on one effect and "over hyped"
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when solubing this in water, how much water does one need per 100 mg ? or is it better to use alcohol?
talking solubing it in water / alc for easier dosing.
10ml of water should be more than enough to dissolve 100mg of scopolamine.
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RIP SR. All scopolamine listings have been moved to the SheepMarket. Link in signature.
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RIP SR. All scopolamine listings have been moved to the SheepMarket. Link in signature.
not gonna go on black market reloaded?
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Grand opening grand closing.