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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: kontrol on October 24, 2012, 01:10 am
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Just wondering the reasoning for this. Unlike stolen goods weapons have voluntary purpose.
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because the vendors agree not to sell anything intended to harm or defraud. and weapons frequently are used to harm people, especially those obtained anonymously
it brings additional negative publicity as well.
see the thread in off topic about the article on the armory to get an idea about the shit it starts (which by the way is evidently not the tor market that was closed buy a legit licensed dealer in virginia beach according to the ATF lol)
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Well. Drugs are harmful. They are sold here.
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their main use is not to harm others... i tried to answer your question, dont give me a smart ass response please
why do you want weapons to be allowed
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If u want weapons just go to BMR man. Im warning u tho alot of the weapon listings are scams, I know from personal experience.
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If u want weapons just go to BMR man. Im warning u tho alot of the weapon listings are scams, I know from personal experience.
I don't think ANY of the weapons listed there are NOT scams... maybe a stun gun.. but I think it's very difficult to find legit weapon sellers, since their weight and measures exceed a couple of pills in a double sealed bag... that's my though.
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What is BMR? Having trouble finding it on google.
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What is BMR? Having trouble finding it on google.
It's another Market. Black Market Reloaded.
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finally something we agree upon :)
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I use weapons to feed my family, is that a less noble cause than getting high?
OP, they took down the weapons site mainly because there was only one vendor on it and no one used it. Their official answer was they didnt want bad press, yknow, cause selling black tar heroin is good press. Long story short weapons are largely legal and easy to acquire so there wasnt any reason to have a black market for it. If you ask around on the armory forum you might find people still selling, but theres no escrow system to regulate it.
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Most of the reasons given here are speculation or personal opinion.
DPR decided this and gave his reasoning. You can find it if you look through his old posts. I don't think it had anything to do with guns hurting people.
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Most of the reasons given here are speculation or personal opinion.
DPR decided this and gave his reasoning. You can find it if you look through his old posts. I don't think it had anything to do with guns hurting people.
Heres the thread: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=33758.0
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i was referring to the sellers guide. not speculating or giving my opinion.
quote from the sellers guide:
"Do not list anything who's purpose is to harm or defraud"
quote from my post:
"because the vendors agree not to sell anything intended to harm or defraud"
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MS that link doesnt work - it doesnt direct to any thread
MB, OP asked why weapons werent allowed on SR, not really why the armory was closed
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MS that link doesnt work - it doesnt direct to any thread
MB, OP asked why weapons werent allowed on SR, not really why the armory was closed
Thats odd it's working for me.... takes me right to DPR's closing the armory thread
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my bad, its not because the thread wasnt there - it was because i wasnt allowed to access it
when i am logged in i dont have access to the guest market parts of the forum, i guess because my spam buster powers dont apply there
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i was referring to the sellers guide. not speculating or giving my opinion.
quote from the sellers guide:
"Do not list anything who's purpose is to harm or defraud"
quote from my post:
"because the vendors agree not to sell anything intended to harm or defraud"
DPR did not mention these reasons when he explained 'why' he was closing the Armory. Guns themselves do not harm or defraud. They are just a tool and can be used to protect and defend just as well as harm and defraud. I believe the quoted lines were present in the Seller's Guide before the Armory was closed. They do not pertain to guns. The guns were excluded later and for a separate reason.
If people are wondering why no weapons are allowed I think it is correct to give them DPR's reason, since he is the one making the rules around here and made a point to be clear about the reason. It is an injustice to tell them that gun sales were banned for something that is not the correct reason. The link above to DPR's thread 'Closing the Armory' gives the info right from the source (link worked for me).
I highly recommend that everyone clicks on DPR's forum username, and then follow the link 'read all posts by this user'. The links in his signature are also very interesting.
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why do you keep referring to the armory when quoting me?? I never mentioned anything about the armory. The OP never mentioned anything about the armory either
i dont know why you are saying i am giving reasons for why DPR closed the armory - i never suggested that
why are weapons not allowed on SR? because the vendor guide says they arent - that is all i said. i disagree that weapons are not intended to harm. you say the sellers guide does not apply to guns and i am positive that it does
of course the link worked, its like you arent even reading my posts just trying to prove i am wrong.
you keep talking about the armory but i am not. i dont know anything about the armory and never used it. the armory was a completely different site than SR. i NEVER mentioned anything about the armory
and yet you claim i am doing an injustice to the community?? the only injustice was you wasting my time as i searched through the entire thread for DPR's reason guns arent allowed on SR - which he never mentions like you claim. he only says why the armory was closed. and then he says are guns allowed on SR? - and he says absolutely NO! but doesnt give a reason like you claim anyway
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why do you keep referring to the armory when quoting me?? I never mentioned anything about the armory. The OP never mentioned anything about the armory either
i dont know why you are saying i am giving reasons for why DPR closed the armory - i never suggested that
why are weapons not allowed on SR? because the vendor guide says they arent - that is all i said. i disagree that weapons are not intended to harm. you say the sellers guide does not apply to guns and i am positive that it does
of course the link worked, its like you arent even reading my posts just trying to prove i am wrong.
you keep talking about the armory but i am not. i dont know anything about the armory and never used it. the armory was a completely different site than SR. i NEVER mentioned anything about the armory
and yet you claim i am doing an injustice to the community?? the only injustice was you wasting my time as i searched through the entire thread for DPR's reason guns arent allowed on SR - which he never mentions like you claim. he only says why the armory was closed. and then he says are guns allowed on SR? - and he says absolutely NO! but doesnt give a reason like you claim anyway
Thank you for taking the time to educate me microRNA. I made some false assumptions that are cleared up now. You are not doing an injustice, but rather just the opposite. I should have guessed considering the blue boxes next to your name...
I guess I have a problem with how the seller's guide is worded. I think 'weapons' should be separate from things 'who's purpose is to harm or defraud'. Weapons can just as easily be used for protection and defense.
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Aren't drugs weapons?
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I cant tell if you are sarcastic. I will admit i was wrong in my wording saying why do you keep quoting me... cause you only quoted me once
But i just was trying to get my point across that i believe SR and the armory are different, and since the question was posted in the SR category, the question means why are weapons allowed on SR, not why was the armory closed...
you are definitely right that guns have many uses other than just to harm, but if they are intended for legit purposes like hunting, protection, or target shooting as mentioned - then you dont need to pay so much extra to get the gun anonymously. this greatly increases the likelihood they are being used for illegal purposes, like harming others.
i dont know why DPR said no guns on SR truly. but i do know they are not allowed - according to the seller guide and dpr's post... i am speculating that it is because it brings negative attention to SR they want to avoid
AB - explain why you feel drugs are weapons please
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I cant tell if you are sarcastic. I will admit i was wrong in my wording saying why do you keep quoting me... cause you only quoted me once
But i just was trying to get my point across that i believe SR and the armory are different, and since the question was posted in the SR category, the question means why are weapons allowed on SR, not why was the armory closed...
you are definitely right that guns have many uses other than just to harm, but if they are intended for legit purposes like hunting, protection, or target shooting as mentioned - then you dont need to pay so much extra to get the gun anonymously. this greatly increases the likelihood they are being used for illegal purposes, like harming others.
i dont know why DPR said no guns on SR truly. but i do know they are not allowed - according to the seller guide and dpr's post... i am speculating that it is because it brings negative attention to SR they want to avoid
AB - explain why you feel drugs are weapons please
Not being sarcastic, but re-reading my last post I can see how it came across like that. I am genuinely saying that I see your point and I made some wrong assumptions.
I strongly support the idea of something like the Armory. Like you, I speculate it was the negative attention that got that side of things shut down. I also speculate that DPR is a proponent of the right to bear arms, so the wording in the Seller's Guide shocks me to say the least.
You left out the most legitimate use: to remain, as a collective, stronger then the government. We should not sacrifice our liberties so that the government can better 'protect' us.
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S - I kinda read his statement as having the right to bear arms, and it being a symbolic "strength" against the gov to maintain the liberty and right rather than the gov telling its citizens they can not own guns. but given where I am from - this seems common to me
F1 - appreciate your respectful response. i agree i think it seems DPR is probably for the right but he wants it to remain separate from SR as to prevent the complications (like negative media attention, ATF investigation, potential violent consequences) associated with the armory from potentially bringing the Road down... if you notice DPR's post the reason the armory was closed however was simply because it was not getting enough traffic and sales to make it worth the effort and cost to maintain keeping it up. it wasnt negative publicity that closed it down - i think its negative publicity contributing to why DPR doesnt want weapons on SR
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I cant tell if you are sarcastic. I will admit i was wrong in my wording saying why do you keep quoting me... cause you only quoted me once
But i just was trying to get my point across that i believe SR and the armory are different, and since the question was posted in the SR category, the question means why are weapons allowed on SR, not why was the armory closed...
you are definitely right that guns have many uses other than just to harm, but if they are intended for legit purposes like hunting, protection, or target shooting as mentioned - then you dont need to pay so much extra to get the gun anonymously. this greatly increases the likelihood they are being used for illegal purposes, like harming others.
i dont know why DPR said no guns on SR truly. but i do know they are not allowed - according to the seller guide and dpr's post... i am speculating that it is because it brings negative attention to SR they want to avoid
AB - explain why you feel drugs are weapons please
Drugs are weapons because they can be used to harm oneself or others intentionally. They can also be used in self defense sometimes.
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Drugs are weapons because they can be used to harm oneself or others intentionally. They can also be used in self defense sometimes.
So can Baseball Bats, Balls, Plastic Bags, Paper Bags, Ink Pens, Pencils, Pillows, Candles, Chairs, Rugs, Dvd's, Computers, Computer Cables, Telephones, Telephone wire, Keys, Drinking Glasses, Bottles, Plates, Sinks, Bathtubs, Curling Irons, Fans, XBox Controllers, PS3 Controllers, Newspapers, Butter Knives, Steak Knives, Forks, Wooden Spoons, Toothbrushes and MUCH MUCH MORE...
asianboy, go find a different site to troll, it seems this aint your cup o' tea (which can also be a weapon) or maybe your just the most terrible LE plant ever