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Title: Suicide drug
Post by: dss3i on October 09, 2012, 02:44 pm
I would like to find out about a drug, which it is possible to commit a successful and pain free suicide with. The only drugs I am aware of to serve this purpose is barbiturates. For whatever drug you recommend, please also tell me the needed dosage, how overdosing the drug feels, and how it kills the body.

(I am not planning a suicide. I am educating myself.)
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: microRNA on October 09, 2012, 03:09 pm
alcohol

if you wanted to educate yourself about these threads with questions you ask just to learn you could actually do some research yourself because the information is readily available online
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: dss3i on October 09, 2012, 03:12 pm
alcohol

if you wanted to educate yourself about these threads with questions you ask just to learn you could actually do some research yourself because the information is readily available online

I did look online. The only drug I've found with a good success rate is barbiturates. Alcohol isn't good because you might throw it up instead of dying, and at least in my opinion it makes you feel sick at such large doses.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: libertyseller on October 09, 2012, 03:26 pm
Because the return rate of suicide pill packages are low...I charge a fortune-


btc250 :)

But I will gladly send the cocktail to you, I will even include holy water from whichever church you prefer to wash it down with. (helps with the demons)
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: dss3i on October 09, 2012, 03:30 pm
Because the return rate of suicide pill packages are low...I charge a fortune-


btc250 :)

But I will gladly send the cocktail to you, I will even include holy water from whichever church you prefer to wash it down with. (helps with the demons)

LOL. xd
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: sbaxter on October 09, 2012, 03:37 pm
Hi,

I have read a posting here quite some time ago, and will quote it for you, maybe you can also find the context in a search:

Quote
Ah, I made a mistake in my earlier post. It's no longer possible to suck the gel out of a fentanyl patch. The gel is now, somehow, woven into the patch and can't be sucked out. Some people say you can cut pieces of the patch and chew on them or stick them on your gums to absorb the fentanyl and others say it doesn't work.

Your best bet is to get some immediate release (IR) oxycodone and use that in place of fentanyl. Here is my revised recipe:

Get the following:

Immediate Release (IR) Oxycodone - around 80mg should do you in if you don't have a tolerance to opaites: 90 BTC, 38 BTC (theOCguy@SR), ordered 20111228
Xanax (Alprazolam) - a few MG should do: 12 BTC, ordered 20111226 from PaythePiper@SR
Ambien (Stilnox, zolpidem) - you just need a couple: 4 BTC, ordered 20111226 from dd69dd@BMR
Promethazine - this is usually available on SR, it should help your body absorb as much of the opiod as possible and reduce the chance of nausea and vomitous. Somebody is selling an "Opiate potentiation pack" which includes promethazine, Chlorpromazine, and Naproxen, which might be a better option.
(bantihistaminicum): 25mg*60 geordert bei de.europestores24h.com am 25.12.
fuer 52$.

Instructions:

1. Take the xanax, ambien, and promethazine (or opiate potentiation pack).
2. Wait maybe 15-20 minutes (i'm not 100% sure about how long to wait).
3. Take about 80mg of IR oxycodone (these kick in FAST)
4. This should do you in.

Any additional notes or critiques are welcome.


Not a bad concept.

cheers,
sb
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: dss3i on October 09, 2012, 03:46 pm
Hi,

I have read a posting here quite some time ago, and will quote it for you, maybe you can also find the context in a search:

Quote
Ah, I made a mistake in my earlier post. It's no longer possible to suck the gel out of a fentanyl patch. The gel is now, somehow, woven into the patch and can't be sucked out. Some people say you can cut pieces of the patch and chew on them or stick them on your gums to absorb the fentanyl and others say it doesn't work.

Your best bet is to get some immediate release (IR) oxycodone and use that in place of fentanyl. Here is my revised recipe:

Get the following:

Immediate Release (IR) Oxycodone - around 80mg should do you in if you don't have a tolerance to opaites: 90 BTC, 38 BTC (theOCguy@SR), ordered 20111228
Xanax (Alprazolam) - a few MG should do: 12 BTC, ordered 20111226 from PaythePiper@SR
Ambien (Stilnox, zolpidem) - you just need a couple: 4 BTC, ordered 20111226 from dd69dd@BMR
Promethazine - this is usually available on SR, it should help your body absorb as much of the opiod as possible and reduce the chance of nausea and vomitous. Somebody is selling an "Opiate potentiation pack" which includes promethazine, Chlorpromazine, and Naproxen, which might be a better option.
(bantihistaminicum): 25mg*60 geordert bei de.europestores24h.com am 25.12.
fuer 52$.

Instructions:

1. Take the xanax, ambien, and promethazine (or opiate potentiation pack).
2. Wait maybe 15-20 minutes (i'm not 100% sure about how long to wait).
3. Take about 80mg of IR oxycodone (these kick in FAST)
4. This should do you in.

Any additional notes or critiques are welcome.


Not a bad concept.

cheers,
sb

Thank you! Best answer so far!
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: discotronics on October 09, 2012, 03:52 pm
if you really are thinking of suicide and even if you're not now but eventually do, keep my username handy, send me a message if you now or ever need someone to talk to. A life is a terrible thing to waste, and even if it sucks now it can be pretty alright sometimes... :D

:D :D



if we must persist with capital punishment/lethal injection, I've heard fentanyl suggested as a better alternative to the 3 part death cocktail forced on the condemned via state sanctioned killing for killing to 'teach' us not to kill./
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: dss3i on October 09, 2012, 04:01 pm
if you really are thinking of suicide and even if you're not now but eventually do, keep my username handy, send me a message if you now or ever need someone to talk to. A life is a terrible thing to waste, and even if it sucks now it can be pretty alright sometimes... :D

:D :D


Thank you.

if we must persist with capital punishment/lethal injection, I've heard fentanyl suggested as a better alternative to the 3 part death cocktail forced on the condemned via state sanctioned killing for killing to 'teach' us not to kill./

Ahhhokaayy, so that's how law enforcement kill law breakers in USA. I wonder exactly what the Dutch they put in those death injections elderly in pain may have there.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: microRNA on October 09, 2012, 04:05 pm
youre telling me you couldnt find info on the dangers of sharing needles??? lol

trust me you wont survive an EtOH enema... and of course you feel sick, youre fucking dying cause you poisoned yourself

alcohol is the drug that leads to more deaths than any other. any oral drug you could vomit back up resulting in organ damage but not death if your lucky

if you think killing yourself is an enjoyable experience i think you will unpleasantly surprised. killing yourself isnt going to be pain free no matter what method you use. unless you use a painkiller (sarcasm)  even if you shoot Heroin and pass out immediately and dont fell any physical pain during your death, you shouldnt forget all those youre fucking over and hurting by commiting such an act - even if you have no family someone still has to find you and that will forever change their life. its an incredibly selfish thing to do

even with barbituates you have to take the correct dose or you will survive. if your unlucky with opiates youll get sick as shit too before you die

search physician assisted suicide and there are a number of drugs they have used: most common in euthanasia device administering sodium thiopental, then pancuronium bromide, and potassium chloride  - others use carbon monoxide or nitrogen

barbs like pentobarbital - nembutal, opiates like fent, heroin, oxy, benzo/depressant cocktails, hypnotics, muscle relaxants anti-cholinergics (have fun with that one), methaqualone, nicotine, speedballs, stimulants including coke and meth, GHB - any drug basically can be used as long as you take a shit ton and ensure no one will find you 

and just taking 80 mg of oxy and some benzos isnt likely to kill you, youd more likely get sick as shit and just throw everything up
an anti-emetic would be necessary... people without a tolerance have taken the old OC 160s and not died somehow

be a man and use cyanide or ethylene glycol though. even better infect yourself with tetanus, that will be pain free

if you were really hardcore and wanted it to be absolutely pain-free youd use immolation

Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: johnmtl on October 09, 2012, 04:27 pm
youre telling me you couldnt find info on the dangers of sharing needles??? lol

trust me you wont survive an EtOH enema... and of course you feel sick, youre fucking dying cause you poisoned yourself

alcohol is the drug that leads to more deaths than any other. any oral drug you could vomit back up resulting in organ damage but not death if your lucky

if you think killing yourself is an enjoyable experience i think you will unpleasantly surprised. killing yourself isnt going to be pain free no matter what method you use. unless you use a painkiller (sarcasm)  even if you shoot Heroin and pass out immediately and dont fell any physical pain during your death, you shouldnt forget all those youre fucking over and hurting by commiting such an act - even if you have no family someone still has to find you and that will forever change their life. its an incredibly selfish thing to do

even with barbituates you have to take the correct dose or you will survive. if your unlucky with opiates youll get sick as shit too before you die

search physician assisted suicide and there are a number of drugs they have used: most common in euthanasia device administering sodium thiopental, then pancuronium bromide, and potassium chloride  - others use carbon monoxide or nitrogen

barbs like pentobarbital - nembutal, opiates like fent, heroin, oxy, benzo/depressant cocktails, hypnotics, muscle relaxants anti-cholinergics (have fun with that one), methaqualone, nicotine, speedballs, stimulants including coke and meth, GHB - any drug basically can be used as long as you take a shit ton and ensure no one will find you 

and just taking 80 mg of oxy and some benzos isnt likely to kill you, youd more likely get sick as shit and just throw everything up
an anti-emetic would be necessary... people without a tolerance have taken the old OC 160s and not died somehow

be a man and use cyanide or ethylene glycol though. even better infect yourself with tetanus, that will be pain free

if you were really hardcore and wanted it to be absolutely pain-free youd use immolation

.38 special! No pain guarantee and one shot does the trick!
 :)
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: microRNA on October 09, 2012, 04:45 pm
i actually agree, i think in many cases using a chemical would be a bad idea because theyres just too many variables unless youre actually having a barb administered during PAS... you run the risk of damaging organs but not dying because the body is surprisingly resilient

but a bullet to the brain stem, now thats  QUICK

of course then you could be one of the (un)lucky ones who just blows half their head off but doesnt die somehow and is just permanently brain damaged
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: Limetless on October 09, 2012, 04:51 pm
Fuck all this shit, if ya gunna do it do it in style and ride a car over a cliff while it's burning. If ya gunna do it, have the balls to do it so people remember.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: microRNA on October 09, 2012, 04:55 pm
thats why i suggested immolation

really makes people take notice
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: Limetless on October 09, 2012, 04:56 pm
Dunno what that is.
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Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: ZenAndTheArt on October 09, 2012, 06:31 pm
I'd go with the opiates. They seemed to work well for Dr Harrold Shipman (Britain's 'greatest' serial killer, who murdered around 200(??) elderly patients). You would first enter that warm cosy state and then your breathing would rapidly become shallower and shallower, as you respiratory system shuts down. You wouldn't feel any panic or fear, you'd just drift off into unconsciousness...

A while back I did a little research into the US's use of lethal injection for capital punishment. I believe it to be unnecessarily cruel. If I were to get executed and had a choice, I'd go for hanging or the guillotine.
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Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: dss3i on October 09, 2012, 07:53 pm
Thank you for all posts! I have a lot to read about :)
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: apples on October 09, 2012, 08:08 pm
inject like 2 grams of heroin

alternatively seppuku. obviously not pain free but it's the most hardcore.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: dieselpepper on October 09, 2012, 09:35 pm
Thank you for all posts! I have a lot to read about :)

Life will never be pain free. Except for those brief periods when before your latest package from Silk Road runs empty. There are teachers who can help. Adyashanti has much to say but he is only one of many teachers.

If the suffering person is dying from a painful disease, there is much information available about how to stop taking food, slowly at first, then when the person is tired and ready to pass, stop taking water. This is how the lucky animals do it. The ones not torn limb from limb by predators.

My housemate's ancient cats and dogs crawl under under a cool porch and pass on while we are on vaction. Their food and water bowls are full but they lie down in the shade in a beautiful yard and pass.

Not that being preyed upon is a total horror movie. I have heard of Zen masters whose sense of "the sacredness and connectedness of all that is" allowed them to offer their body to whatever predator or criminal might want it. It was of little consequence to them.

***Important note. If you yourself are feeling suicidal do not try any psychedelics. Not LSD or MDMA or 2-CB or DMT or Baby Hawaiian Woodrose or anything. You won't die but you could visit one of the many hell regions that the Buddhists speak of. Been there. Done that. You might try it if you have a friend, counselor, or shaman to guide you. I've heard they have Ibogaine clinics in Mexico and a woman in Romania who heals people with Ibogaine as her service to "all that is", Great Spirit, God, what-have-you.

</>psychedelic Dr. Phil
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: libertyseller on October 09, 2012, 10:53 pm

.38 special! No pain guarantee and one shot does the trick!
 :)

Have seen this tried and failed with everything from shotgun through .45 unless your putting the barrel in the right spot...
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: drugfather on October 09, 2012, 11:54 pm
inject like 2 grams of heroin

alternatively seppuku. obviously not pain free but it's the most hardcore.

2 kilos of heroin would go even harder
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Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: drugfather on October 10, 2012, 01:18 am
inject like 2 grams of heroin

alternatively seppuku. obviously not pain free but it's the most hardcore.

2 kilos of heroin would go even harder

Bit of a waste. Could leave the rest in his will, cover funeral costs at least.

*Impressed at the little amount of fucks given for taking the subject of suicide, mixing it with drugs and then saying to leave behind nearly 2kg of heroin for funeral costs. Not bad....*

Wasn't thinking this deep into it but hey it works
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: microRNA on October 10, 2012, 09:08 am
Lim, self-immolation is the act of sacrificing by lighting oneself on fire and burning to death

like you mentioned with the burning car

that would be painless im sure
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: silvertooth on October 10, 2012, 01:04 pm
My uncle got in his car, got up to around 110mph, and just before hitting the concrete overpass wall he was aiming for, ate a hollowpoint from his .45. Never found out why, but no one can argue that he wasnt serious about it.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: microRNA on October 10, 2012, 03:03 pm
thats sad, my condolences and may he rest in peace.

it sucks people are driven to such extremes in this world. i have an extreme respect for life in general and its a bummer to hear that.

the only reason i was so callous about this thread is of course that the OP doesnt want to, they just are curious and want to know about it... just like they wanted to know if they could share needles even though they werent going to ?
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: dss3i on October 10, 2012, 07:21 pm
thats sad, my condolences and may he rest in peace.

it sucks people are driven to such extremes in this world. i have an extreme respect for life in general and its a bummer to hear that.

the only reason i was so callous about this thread is of course that the OP doesnt want to, they just are curious and want to know about it... just like they wanted to know if they could share needles even though they werent going to ?

Just because I am not going to share a needle or commit suicide I know people who are going to do both, and I'm not going to tell them "don't share the needle" if I'm not sure there's a big consequence if they share the needle. I couldn't find a big consequence when I looked myself (as both are free from disease), but you know, there could have been something I overlooked when I searched, so it didn't hurt to ask. See, if someone died as a consequence of being injected with a shared needle, even though it would have been their own choice, I would have felt bad for the rest of my life if I had been the one injecting them. I hope nobody will ever ask me to inject them with a shared needle.

I'm not recommending or helping anyone to commit suicide, even though I think it is everybody's right to do so and I know somebody who wants to, because this person who wants to is too young to make such a fatal choice in my opinion. In spite of this suicide drug information having no practical use for me at the moment, I don't understand why you're so against me asking. Knowledge is like food. It's nice to digest even if you're not going to make use of it, just instead of belly fat it becomes brain stuffing. Besides, one day I might need my reserves. What if a asteroid hits the planet and I'm the only surviving person? Then it would be too late to ask someone how to kill myself :)
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: microRNA on October 11, 2012, 11:58 am
i dont really have a problem with you asking. except i do know with more time and effort you could have found the answers, many even on this forum

 i was actually suggesting with the question mark there is probably more of a reason you were asking - which there is, because you actually know people who do want to re-use needles or kill themselves.

also i was saying that if you had wanted to kill yourself i would have never responded with ways to actually do it

and you should absolutely never agree to shoot someone up especially not with a shared needle imo
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: gestaltassault2 on October 11, 2012, 12:39 pm
if you want to be economical about it just eat 2 boxes of Unisom (doxylamine) and chase it 700ml of your liquor of choice...
it worked for my friend...
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: mozoun on October 12, 2012, 07:52 am
Hello people!

Interesting how people react to this post. Appropriate answers and so on.

I think i would either smoke heroin untill i pass, not sure if it works like that tho, (would i just fall asleep before smoking too much? never tried heroin, but prolly going to, soon (; ) or get high in speed and some opiates, then take my car, wouldn't wear my seatbelt and accelerate to top speed, or atleast 180 km/h (~115mph maybe) and then turn the car off the road to the woods and crashhhh big time. Most probably that crash would kill me. Crashing the car would be better to my friends, overdosing heroin or any other drugs and dying would be really hard to my friends and family, so the car crash would be better =P Still tho, with heroin it would be more pleasant to myself. If the smoking wouldn't work then i would try injecting.

Suicide post made me join the forums and 1st post was about how to kill myself, should i be worried? ;P
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: pinkapples88 on October 12, 2012, 08:26 am

.38 special! No pain guarantee and one shot does the trick!
 :)

Have seen this tried and failed with everything from shotgun through .45 unless your putting the barrel in the right spot...

If you could seriously shoot yourself in the head with a .45 or a 12 gauge shotgun then you deserve to be a vegetable and spend your last days our hours as a brain dead pile of meat.I'm really not sure how one could suck at life so much that they could unsuccessfully shoot themselves in the head with a shotgun and not die.I can almost feel the dudes humiliation.That's pretty much the ultimate fail.I guess its somewhat plausible since you never said anything about a shot to the head.Since we are talking about suicide it would be point blank in the face because our arms don't reach much farther than that and it would be hard and inconvenient to shoot anywhere else.I don't believe anyone has EVER survived a shotgun blast point blank range to the head.Maybe from a distance while using buck shot instead of slugs.And again if you're really ignorant enough to use buckshot/birdshot instead of slugs then the dude deserved to be a vegetable.If you're going to commit suicide don't do a half ass job.The angle wouldn't even make that much of a difference with a shotgun slug your brain would be soup from the pressure and the slug itself and it would probably sever your spinal cord if you aimed a little to low.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: Novartis on October 12, 2012, 08:30 am
youre telling me you couldnt find info on the dangers of sharing needles??? lol

trust me you wont survive an EtOH enema... and of course you feel sick, youre fucking dying cause you poisoned yourself

alcohol is the drug that leads to more deaths than any other. any oral drug you could vomit back up resulting in organ damage but not death if your lucky

if you think killing yourself is an enjoyable experience i think you will unpleasantly surprised. killing yourself isnt going to be pain free no matter what method you use. unless you use a painkiller (sarcasm)  even if you shoot Heroin and pass out immediately and dont fell any physical pain during your death, you shouldnt forget all those youre fucking over and hurting by commiting such an act - even if you have no family someone still has to find you and that will forever change their life. its an incredibly selfish thing to do

even with barbituates you have to take the correct dose or you will survive. if your unlucky with opiates youll get sick as shit too before you die

search physician assisted suicide and there are a number of drugs they have used: most common in euthanasia device administering sodium thiopental, then pancuronium bromide, and potassium chloride  - others use carbon monoxide or nitrogen

barbs like pentobarbital - nembutal, opiates like fent, heroin, oxy, benzo/depressant cocktails, hypnotics, muscle relaxants anti-cholinergics (have fun with that one), methaqualone, nicotine, speedballs, stimulants including coke and meth, GHB - any drug basically can be used as long as you take a shit ton and ensure no one will find you 

and just taking 80 mg of oxy and some benzos isnt likely to kill you, youd more likely get sick as shit and just throw everything up
an anti-emetic would be necessary... people without a tolerance have taken the old OC 160s and not died somehow

be a man and use cyanide or ethylene glycol though. even better infect yourself with tetanus, that will be pain free

if you were really hardcore and wanted it to be absolutely pain-free youd use immolation


I agree about alcohol, there are days where literally EVERY PATIENT I see is dying from alcohol related diseases... and it isn't quick like inhaling your own vomit while you're passed out on the couch (seen that one a few times too).... No, the alcohol related deaths are all painfully slow, miserable deaths... not as bad as cancer, but not too far off in some cases. End stage liver disease were you're so full of fluid you legs literally weep fluid... liver function fails, blood passages returning to the liver overflow and create varicees (esophageal or bowel) so you vomit blood, shit blood, etc..... then you're so backed up with fluid (like CHF patients) the fluid kept in the legs, abdomen, etc begins to fill your lungs and literally drown in your own fluid..... or you turn yellow (jaundice) from liver failure which can even be seen in the whites (not yellow) of your eyes..... Oh and then there's the people who have been sober after being in very late stage liver failure (late stage is COMA... followed soon after by death) - - they get sober, fall off the wagon, go back into coma, we bring them back, they relapse, go into coma... eventually die. And of course there's always the one who starts drinking again while on oxycodone after their last drunk fall who spirals into liver failure but also has severe daily pancreatitus with causes 6-8/10 daily non stop pain, which in turn makes them want to drink more which causes even worse pain, vomiting, diarrhea...... Then there's the kidney failure in the late 30's early 40's on 3x a week dialysis (which means they'll be dead soon enough because no one who's a drunk gets a new kidney so they can destroy that one too)... and in the meantime they suffer all the shit that goes along with kidney failure. I can go on and on, I drink... but all in moderation... ya never know when all of a sudden you're doing it every day and your fucking stomach (yah, liver) hurts and you're too fucked up to stop.... alcohol's a real killer. I'm surprised it's legal and weed isn't. The most problem I see with weed is when some asshole who doesn't smoke decides to eat a couple pot brownies and has a panic attack but swears he's dying, annoying as shit.

I could go on for ages, sorry it's been a shit week at work watching people die over and over again.

do yourself a favor and don't try to kill yourself, it'll probably not work and then you'll be in and out of the ER with liver failure wishing you hadn't tried it. And yeah, that benzo dosage seems like a party to some of the people I run across.

The ones that survive the fall always wish they hadn't had jumped right after they step off. That being said, you'd be surprised how far an INTACT brain can pop out of someone's head after a fall from a tall building. I thought it was a fluke after the first one I saw, then I realized that sucker doesn't splat at all - it cracks and pops!
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: pinkapples88 on October 12, 2012, 08:44 am
Fuck all this shit, if ya gunna do it do it in style and ride a car over a cliff while it's burning. If ya gunna do it, have the balls to do it so people remember.

Immolation is what monks do.They commit suicide by lighting themselves on fire.In a country like England or America where they have fire departments and shit you would probably be extinguished and survive with 3rd degree burns,unable to move or walk,muscles burnt to fuck,basically like a brain dead person except your not brain dead.But like in Asia where monks do it no one really gives a shit they just sit back and watch,Ive seen it a million times on bestgore.And if I was going to commit suicide I wouldn't drive off a cliff I would turn on my webcam and have a live stream so people could watch,I would undress,call the police and paramedics and tell them I'm going to murder someone affluent in my basement so they would rush to my house,give them my address,give them a few minutes til they're close to being there,then I would asphyxiate/hang myself so I would have a an erection for awhile after death,I would leave a note on the wall before I kill myself saying "fuck pigs you can all suck my hard dick" lmao it would just be great for the cop to think hes going to be a hero only to arrive and find my hard cock and a message saying suck it bitch.That would be a great way to go out  ;D
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: microRNA on October 12, 2012, 09:07 am
Novartis, i completely agree about alcohol, its one reason i dont drink (boy am i glad i dont now after reading that) and am against alcohol but enjoy some bud especially when dealing with my nausea.  cant fucking believe i could easily go to jail for bud but its acceptable for people to drink till you have to deal with all their bullshit it causes.

thats what i was trying to convey too - dont try it cause you more than likely wont succeed and just fuck yourself up but still be glad you failed
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: Limetless on October 12, 2012, 09:27 am
Lim, self-immolation is the act of sacrificing by lighting oneself on fire and burning to death

like you mentioned with the burning car

that would be painless im sure

Yeah....you're a bit wrong there kiddo. You have to get 1000 degrees c before you can't feel the pain of being burned anymore.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: sup3rm4n on October 12, 2012, 10:05 am
Lim, self-immolation is the act of sacrificing by lighting oneself on fire and burning to death

like you mentioned with the burning car

that would be painless im sure

You have to get 1000 degrees c

Of course setting yourself on fire will hurt  :o

 Holy shit thats hot! I remember a weird fact that one of the roman emperors used to line his driveway with human torches, apparently depending on fat content they could burn for around 24hours. I may be misremembering this though  ???
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: microRNA on October 12, 2012, 10:30 am
i didnt realize there was a point before death that burns stopped hurting
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: Novartis on October 12, 2012, 07:21 pm
From what I've been taught, most people who die from fire die because they inhale the super heated gasses from combustion, their airway seals and they die from asphyxiation. I assumed the monks held their breath and inhaled shortly before they die.

They also tell us that 3rd degree burns do not hurt because the nerve endings have all been burned away. That sounds good in theory, but the people with full thickness burns seem like they're in agony... of course the 3rd degree burns I've seen have been surrounded by 2nd degree burns so maybe that's why they hurt so bad (supposedly 2nd degree burns hurt the most... the burns with white raised blisters). If someone were to be completely involved in flame at once, it would make sense that all endings would be burned away fairly quickly and no pain felt. I dunno tho, I'd say go to therapy.. or as much as people hate to hear it and it sucks balls... 5150 yourself at the local ER. That will suck some pretty hairy balls, but better than being dead.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: ultramarket on October 13, 2012, 12:27 am
I would like to find out about a drug, which it is possible to commit a successful and pain free suicide with. The only drugs I am aware of to serve this purpose is barbiturates. For whatever drug you recommend, please also tell me the needed dosage, how overdosing the drug feels, and how it kills the body.

(I am not planning a suicide. I am educating myself.)

The painless way is sealing your head inside a big plastic bag full of helium.  I don't think it's wrong to share this information.  That said, don't do it.  Life is awesome.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: dss3i on October 13, 2012, 02:02 pm
I believe some people are not seeing the other side of the story to suicide. I will never kill my self but maybe euthanasia if I am terminally ill in some country that allows it. I believe if a person wants to die then let them die in the least painful way possible. I believe its even more selfish for people or family's not supporting some person suffering of serious life issues or the terminally ill to not let them die when they want to. It's like "you must suffer so we don't miss you"... that right there is selfish and not respecting some ones own free will. Were all gonna die one day... its part of life and if some people or family want to exit sooner... let them go in peace and just remember the good times. I personally love my life but understand that some people seriously suffer and don't enjoy their lives as much. I dont think people should judge and say its bad if people want to take the exit just because they are not in their shoes and only seeing things from their own view point.

I agree with this. It annoys me each time my mother talks to me about how selfish suicide is.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: papples on October 13, 2012, 04:32 pm
If I was going to do it, I'd either shoot myself in the head or...
put 3.5g of H into a 5ml syringe and run among the poppy fields
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: weed4speednstuff on October 16, 2012, 09:17 pm
carban monoxide? in a garage, run a hose from your car's tailpipe to inside the car through a small opening in the window, turn on the car, fall asleep and die.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: jsmithy123 on October 17, 2012, 12:41 am
that doesn't work well with modern cars. Buy the oldest car you can find on craigslist, anything low tech 70s will be fine.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: dieselpepper on November 04, 2012, 02:04 am
Copied verbatim from another post 'casue I'm tired.
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Jumping in at the end. Haven't read the reast of the thread.

Wanting out of this life is normal, at times. for all humans. Work through it. If you can't work through it, nature shows a way. You stop taking food. Hunger hurts a little at first until you make friends with it. It tells you whether you're really ready or not. If you're not ready, you'll eat something. If you're really ready, you'll push through the hunger and have some insights. If you still don't change your mind and decide to continue with the difficult process of human life you will become weak from lack of food. When you are tired and ready, you can stop taking water. Soon after you stop taking water, you life process will end. It is nature's way we need to re-learn nature's way.

But yeah, don't do it a place where you'll get eaten by wolves or dogs. Of if you want, you can do that.

None of this requires illegal drugs. Please don't put this forum at risk by requesting suicide drugs that are totally unnecessary. This is natures way.

My guess is that is not your time to pass or you are law enforcement/entrapment trying to smear the life enhancing business that is going on here at Silk Road. If the former, my prayers go out to you. If the latter, see if you have some cousins, relatives someone, who can teach about plant medicine. Namaste.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: jpinkman on November 04, 2012, 01:50 pm
i didnt realize there was a point before death that burns stopped hurting


Dude really? I always thought it was common knowledge that burning to death is one of, if not THE, most painful ways to die.

To the OP:

I saw a BBC documentary that seemed to imply that huffing N2 (Nitrogen) was the way to go out because not only is it quick and painless, but it's got the added benefit of total euphoria. Think of that nitrous oxide hit you've taken, maybe at the dentist or rave, but without that binding oxygen compound you'd fall unconscious even sooner and death would follow in minutes. Course you'd want to ensure you're still breathing nitrogen after passing out, so an attached face mask or loosely secured garbage bag (loosely so the carbon dioxide you breathe out can escape) is a must.

It'd be easy to get a nitrogen tank too. Many times the welding shop or gas company will even deliver it if you find it's too heavy to transport yourself. In the unlikely event someone at the gas company asks say you need it for your air brush.

I think if I'm fortunate enough to live to a ripe old age where I get to choose by date and manner of death I'd definitely go the N2 route. :)
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: DoctorRX on November 04, 2012, 03:19 pm
Take my 10 back of 15mg midazolam, you'll fall into a peaceful sleep, and never ever wake up. and honestly if your not afraid syringes. shooting up anything over 100mg of an opioid is risk for overdose which is a pretty peaceful death. but the easiest and most peaceful way is to swallow some midazolam (2nd strongest benzo) and some opana (2nd strongest opioid), and you will fall asleep and go into respiratory failure.

Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: Itchy N Scratchy on November 04, 2012, 06:36 pm
10ml Lidocaine 2% IV

Stops heart

Dead
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: kitkat82 on November 05, 2012, 04:09 am
An overdose is the riskiest method you could choose.  Most overdose deaths show that the victim actually woke up in a frenzied delirious state vomiting and defecating all over them selves, struggling to crawl and get to a phone to call for help. 

Please don't do it.  Ask for help.  This sounds corny but it is true.  Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: saintgabriels on November 05, 2012, 07:29 am
An overdose is the riskiest method you could choose.  Most overdose deaths show that the victim actually woke up in a frenzied delirious state vomiting and defecating all over them selves, struggling to crawl and get to a phone to call for help. 

Oh damn, don't tell me that! My fiance died last year from a bath salt/roxy combo OD....
I like to live in my fantasy world that he just fell asleep and never woke up...I mean...*sniffle, threatens kitkat* THAT'S WHAT THE CORONER SAID!

Not quite sure of the best way to do it...but a gun sounds pretty dandy for me. Only thing: I'd really hate for anyone that I cared about to find me. Or not to be found at all. Or well just...I know how that goes. Obviously some planning needs to go into it when I get to that point (aka the world goes to shit and moving to Canada--american joke--no longer becomes an option)

((To the dude with the uncle...man, that sucks, but clearly the guy wanted to be remembered and wanted everyone's jaw to drop when you told them about him.
Kind of an epic guy he sounds like. Regardless, sorry man, hope there's some good memories.))
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: kitkat82 on November 06, 2012, 11:20 pm
An overdose is the riskiest method you could choose.  Most overdose deaths show that the victim actually woke up in a frenzied delirious state vomiting and defecating all over them selves, struggling to crawl and get to a phone to call for help. 

Oh damn, don't tell me that! My fiance died last year from a bath salt/roxy combo OD....
I like to live in my fantasy world that he just fell asleep and never woke up...I mean...*sniffle, threatens kitkat* THAT'S WHAT THE CORONER SAID!

Not quite sure of the best way to do it...but a gun sounds pretty dandy for me. Only thing: I'd really hate for anyone that I cared about to find me. Or not to be found at all. Or well just...I know how that goes. Obviously some planning needs to go into it when I get to that point (aka the world goes to shit and moving to Canada--american joke--no longer becomes an option)

((To the dude with the uncle...man, that sucks, but clearly the guy wanted to be remembered and wanted everyone's jaw to drop when you told them about him.
Kind of an epic guy he sounds like. Regardless, sorry man, hope there's some good memories.))

Oh, I am so sorry hon.  If the coroner said that then I am sure it is true.  I am only going by some readings I have done.  It is by no means the gospel truth.

I have ODed on purpose quite a few times and it was never fun, but I was coherent enough to scream for help or call 911 before I was immobilized.  The difference is  I probably didn't take enough to really kill me fast enough or make it comfortable.  I just wanted to warn people that it is not as simple and easy as it sounds. 
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: Caparino on November 16, 2012, 01:13 am
Good News Everyone! Apparently there's a vendor selling cyanide pills on SR, go get 'em!
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: Novartis on November 16, 2012, 01:42 am
hrmm, that seems excessive (there are plenty of things on here dangerous enough)... also seems like it might be against SR's TOS? I dunno, I should read those again
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: Caparino on November 16, 2012, 02:10 am
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/62806edf01 There's the link!

I don't think it's too excessive; more freedom to the populace to do whatever they want, I say.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: demonspeeder on November 16, 2012, 11:23 pm
There are some cases where I think suicide would be preferable. If I was looking at 25 years in prison then I would definitely want to kill myself or if I was suffering from unbearable physical pain that wouldn't go away.  Just saying... a suicide pill might not be such a bad thing to keep handy in case shit really hits the fan.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: iisthisisi on November 17, 2012, 09:22 am
Dunno if already said, but I think taking a MAOi with an SSRI and MDMA, will take you very far away. You probably die from serotonin syndrome, which I think can be pretty painful.

But the road to someones goal isn't always smooth.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: fuckingACE on November 17, 2012, 03:19 pm
You'd kill yourself over a 25 year sentence? I can only imagine that being preferable if you're old and would die in there anyway.

While it's here, prison is an experience to be had. An unpleasant one, for sure, but from a perspective outside the universe there's a reason it's here, and I personally feel if I end up there I'm meant to experience it then move back into the world.

Certainly not kill myself to get out of it.

Prison, depending on where you are in the world really isn´t that bad of an experience. Boring as fuck if you have no motivation to do anything but not that bad. You can go to the gym, learn things, educate yourself, read, meet some new interesting people. It really depends on how you act whilst your in, if your meek and walk in staring at the floor and stammering then you´re probably going to have a bad time. If you´re funny, confident, look people in the eye and hold your ground then you´ll be ok. It dosent matter if you lose a fight, what matters is that you had the bollocks to fight. You´ll get respect for that. Prison can serve as a good stop gap to bettering yourself, learning new things and positive change. you get a bed, food and unlimited learning for free. I can think of worse places/situations to be in on the out.
Title: Re: Suicide drug
Post by: fuckingACE on November 17, 2012, 03:38 pm
For all those suggesting opiods,  I saw a video of some guy convulsing from a heroin OD, he had gashed his head open from smacking it against the floor, his jaw was locked and foaming and I think he had bitten part of his tongue off and in his eyes he was aware of what was going on and shitting himself.... not pleasant.


Vets use phenobarbital for this purpose. [edit] sometimes I´d take a tiny bit to help sleep, this is peaceful and very quick however I think you would pass out before managing to get the whole thing in you´re arm so I think you would need to do an IV infusion with saline drip.

One poster mentioned Nitrogen, in truth any inert gas will do, your body will be tricked into thinking it´s air so you wont have many of the unpleasant symptoms associated with asphyxiation, the result is brain death due to lack of oxygen in the brain, should take around 3 minutes if inhaling 100% of the chosen gas. sysmple setup, gas mask bottle of nitrogen or whatever and your good to go.. the poster that mentioned this before should bear in mind that this is not nitrous oxide, the stuff you use in ballons or dentists, it wont be giggly and fun. You´ll just feel yourself lose consciousness and never wake up. Currently the most favored method for the assisted suicide labs. Be careful though, if you are interrupted half way though you´ll be a vegetable with severe brain damage

There are some cocktails you can make too, Anti Malaria tablets, I forget the name, are a very quick way to go but must be taken with an anti-emetic, the same with all cocktails really to prevent your body from throwing up.

And then there's the phase that was going on in Japan where they mixed two chemicals together that produced a hydrogen sulphide gas which killed within 3 - 15 seconds of inhalation. Very easy to obtain. However it is painful, aborted attempts leave the person with blindness, also it is incredibly selfish, Rescue workers and neighbours are at risk, the gas is heavier than air and can killl people days after.

I have spoken to a lot of people that have attempted it, and known a lot of people that were successful. The thing to remember is that it can´t rain forever. However shit your life seems now, one day you´ll look back and the dark times will just be a memory. And if you chose to kill youself you wont ever have a future great achievement, you wont hear another "I love you", every smile you could have put on a persons face won´t have ever existed. times change and the world changes with it. What seems like a big deal now wont always be. Prison is not worse than death, I would chose it for the rest of my life rather than just give up. Because in there you are still living, still making people happy and being happy yourself, and you still have hope of being free. With death you have nothing and can´t go back.

If this is just for research then cool, I believe in the free flow of information, If you are considering it all i would say is think carefully. some people with terminal illness chose to go out because all they have is a lot of pain before a certain death, I can understand this. I have difficulty understanding healthy people doing it. There is a future for all of us if we just chose to find it.