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Discussion => Philosophy, Economics and Justice => Topic started by: Adasel on October 03, 2012, 06:22 pm
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Controlling the masses is as old an idea as time itself.
Given that fact into the equation im guessing pretty much anything is possible.
I would love to hear what thoughts anyone has on this subject, be it funny, bizarre or just out right out there.
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Bilderberg , Zionists, Rothschilds.
Any other group who is thought to control is indirectly controlled by one of the above groups.
Well as far as my limited research into this goes, that's what I'm going by.
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Being in europe i an very aware of the name Rothschilds, they are practically burned into our historic memory.
As for the other two, i have heard of them but am not entirely sure as to what they are about.
Going to look into it though now.
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That's a good question you ask Adasel. Of course, there is no easy answer to it.
I realise an opinion is only an opinion, so I am not claiming that my thoughts here are fact. In my humble opinion, there are an elite bunch of people in the World and they control what really goes on in the World. Between them, they own more than half of the World's wealth. They are silent, but primary shareholders in most of the major industries in the World, such as the pharmaceutical, oil, food industry etc. Families in this elite group include the likes of the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Kennedys, Russells etc. They control most of the banks in the World and this global recession is orchestrated by them. They are more powerful than the US Government, and I think they actually control the US President. The US Government are in serious debt to the Federal Reserve. Guess what, the Rothschilds own the Federal Reserve. The name is rather misleading eh?!! One would be forgiven for thinking it was a Government bank. If you become indebted to someone, you become their servant. This is how the US Government is controlled, and in essence, that is how the masses are controlled.
Between the bloodlines I mentioned earlier, they own all the mainstream media sources and they dictate what is fed to us in the news. That, is in itself, a way of controlling the masses. You'd have to do some outside research to find out what is really going on in the World. Take for example, the 9/11 atrocity in the U.S. There is more and more evidence stacking up to show that the attack on the World Trade Center was actually carried out by the Americans themselves. Have you ever heard of what happened to WTC building 7? This building collapsed/exploded at 5.20pm on the day of the attack, but no one ever heard about that in the mainstream news. This building landed in its own footprint when the explosion happened, which experts claim, could only happen if a controlled demolition was carried out. This was purposefully left out of the news because it would have had people asking questions. This is a control measure.
The internet has provided a huge platform for people to find information for themselves. This has led people to become enlightened as to what is really going in the World and it has also highlighted what mainstream media had been keeping from us all this time.
People are becoming more and more enlightened every day. Eventually, they will get fed up of the control they are under and I think there will be a huge revolution. People are fed up of the bull shit that they are being fed on a day to day basis. Global politics is all an act and money is the only concern of most politicians.
My ramblings here are brief, but look into it yourself and the stuff you will read about is frightening. I'm going to end my post here or else i'll be here for the night talking about this stuff.
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Occam's Razor offers the answer:
The individuals within the masses.
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The Illuminati mixed with willful ignorance of the masses.
Once you research enough and do enough mind altering substances, its pretty easy to see the reasons behind all major influences on humanity. Its all to get us to a specific point.
Most people wont leave the comfort of assumption that nothing is wrong and everything bad happens because of stupidty, poor people and accident, and thats fine. Knowing the future has become a bit of a burden for us paying attention.
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PGP Club!
On a serious note, I would say it depends on what time frame you're referring to.
If you're talking about right now this minute. The army, the police, the government. If you're talking over a few days/weeks/months, then it is memes. If you mean over years and decades, then it is the business cycle, interest rates, particularly investment allocations, and if you mean over many decades or centuries it is economics writ large with demographics/, and if you mean over thousands of years then it is biology, and if you're talking millions, billions of years, then it must be ultimately pgp club.
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One word: Fear.
I believe that fear is what controls the masses. Fear that something they do may harm them-fear they may get in trouble-fear they may suffer consequences that are unrealistic. For example, one of my best friend's who really only drinks and very rarely smokes has been very depressed lately-she's been through a lot and as her friend I am trying to be there for her, so I told her about MDMA and how it may benefit her in ways she can't even wrap her head around. After a long (and kinda aggravating) conversation, I could not get her to change her mind. Why? Fear. MDMA is an "Illegal drug" and she has the mentality that all illegal drugs will land you homeless on the street sucking dick for crack rocks.
Strange example, but just one that I thought of on the top of my head. Her fear of becoming a drug addict is holding her back from taking a shot at responsible drug use which WOULD lead her to move on from what's been troubling her...if not move on, than at least be in peace with it.
Now, there are different types of fear. I'm putting my whole life on the line to do the business I conduct on SR and IRL-Do I live in fear everyday? YES! But, its a different kind of fear. I still do what I do very carefully, but there's always that thought in the back of my mind that the feds are going to come in and destroy my life and future, but I am willing to continue because I have full faith in the SR system and the people I fuck with-but then there are those who would never, ever embark on a venture as mine because that fear overwhelms them to the point that they are scared.
tl;dr point is, if people weren't afraid to stand up for what they truly believe in their hearts, then this world would be a much different reality for all of us, but we are bounded by laws and injustice that keep us all just moving right along in the world, living day by day.
Just my opinion, ever since I started doing the MDMA I've gotten on SR I view this world in a totally different light. It's hard to explain, but I just don't understand how people just get born into this world, go to school, get a job, get married, start a family and then die-that just seems so pointless to me...sure, I may be doing the same thing but behind the scenes its a whole nether life I live, and I couldn't be happier.
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+1 for your you StExo, nice read :)
I'm not sure if the question is really the right one.
Just in case there is an instance to be named, who really is controlling us, why we let do this with us? I think the question is just a feeling, that there is something we don't control or just something we don't understand. Most conspiracys are just a 'simple' way to explain something very complex (e.g. finance system, politics, etc.). It's easy to spot on someone/something and make it the reason for everything what's wrong in our life/world.
Based on my experience, there is one power which you can't break down or even control. It's love. As StExo gave as example, the love a mother has in her and shares with her kids and family, can't be described with words and most of the males will never be able to feel something similar 'extreme'. I wouldn't agree on the point, that such mother will never think about such questions like, 'why am i here' or similar 'deeper' questions, because for many the love they're feeling is the possible answer. Besides the love of a mother, there are many kind of 'love', i think we all can reach the level of love we need for life, just by getting aware of our own. In current times, we're loosing the connection to ourselves and rushing after money, honor, boy/girlfriend or whatever (mostly materialistic) status symbols we're after. Imo, as soon we find the connections to ourselves again, it wouldn't even matter, if some rothschilds, illuminati, rosenkreuzer, free mansons, or whatever organizations really 'have the control', because it wouldn't affect us in a 'negative' way.
We should just build stable social groups, which can't be broken or shut down by anyone outstanding. Helping and loving each other.... that's it imo.... sounds so simple, but it's hard to make real. I'm not sure why it's hard to behave that natural.
Yes it's true, we're egoistic. But why not changing the point of view and realizing, that helping others, is helping ourselves, even if you're getting disappointed, it's just another experience in your life. It's up to us to rate it 'negative or 'positive' OR to see it as it really is, just another event in the space-time continuum, we are allowed to watch.
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the bbc actual reported wtc 7 they just managed to do it early while it was still standing in the background which is even stranger,
on that program (which was just fuckin stupid)last night about 7/7 they had a clip of some security nob saying on tv after 7/7 that they were practising for a terror attack on the exact tube stations on the same day as the actual attack happened just like 9/11 then on thing last nite he was backtracking saying yes we was but only in a single room
money controls everything so who controls money controls the world just like rothschield himself said he dosnt care whos in gov as long as he controls money he can do what he likes,or something like that
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The capitalist class has the most control over your daily life. They decide how many workers are needed, in what industries, who is worthy of housing and food, and where the violence of the military's of nation states is needed. It is really not that complicated. For instance, if you are unemployed, there is no reason for you to be. There are enough resources to compensate you for work, and there are plenty of things that can be done that are beneficial to human comfort and survival. You are unemployed because nobody in the capitalist class currently needs your labor to obtain all the things they want to obtain. Everything else is secondary to the power of controlling the world's resources and the means of production. And to fend off any criticism of "socialist" states, I am not a state socialist. In fact there are no socialist nations, by the true definition of the word. I am a proponent of libertarian socialism, otherwise known as anarchist communism. If nobody can own the resources we all depend on then nobody can rise to a level of power that we all suffer underneath. To think we need sadistic bosses and politicians to force us to get off our lazy asses to do the jobs necessary for human survival is so pessimistic that if it were true, humans do not deserve to exist. Of course that is not true, we do all the things we need to do to survive outside of work,when we get home, such as gardening and building things, simply because we desire to. We will have more time to do the truly important tasks if we are not wasting time at jobs that are not necessary for bettering our lives, AND we will have more time to do the things that each of us desires, including enjoying more time with our friends and family. This world belongs to us all, we should all take it.
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I think mostly that planet Earth is just chaos.
Some people have lots of money. Some people have lots of power. There are many companies, millions of them, with special interests, backhanders, bribes and corruption. There are many companies competing for market share, trying to manipulate people into buying their products or use their services. The same companies compete for government contracts. This is all in a constant state of flux as technology advances, nations change, ideologies change.. demand changes.. people die and new ones born. There are evil people that get into power and affect the world's economy and zeitgeist in many ways, and there are many people doing their best to stop that. There are career politicians who like to drink wine with Russian oligarchs and sit in the House of Lords. There are businesses that pander to this lifestyle and image, in exchange for reciprocal favour. There are countless ideologies interwoven into this massive construct of consumerism/trade/industry/military.
And then you've got the billions of us who live in different levels of class, from the very poor to the quite well-off, all trying to get by and survive, doing different things to earn money in this "capital class" system. I see what you mean redfun, but its very easy to say "the capital class" as if thats a definitive thing. I think that it's just a system we've been born into, and it's composed of billions of people who wake up everyday and carry on on their way, in the world that we live in. I don't think they're conscious of it being malevolent, I just think they do what they will in this world. We were bred for it, remember. Is there a conspiracy in that, or did we just evolve this way? Do you think there is a guiding finger in all of this, a puppet master behind the curtain, or are we just a fucked up mammalian species who belong to a realm of abstract illusion?
So basically I think it's just a massive confluence of events, of people of all different levels of greed and want, doing what they want and going for their own self interests.
I don't think there is a conspiracy as such. No doubt there are very smart people in positions of vast wealth who use that power to create more wealth, to affect favourable policy, to keep the public from removing them from said position. But the ENTIRE WORLD, including ALL government policy EVERYWHERE, run by a single group? I doubt that. There are too many smaller business interests involved for that to be the case.
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There are a real interesting mix of responses to the initial question, very interesting.
Some people have approached this from a Totally different perspective to others, but all the points raised have exhibited a high level of thought and contemplation
And questions like this should be asked;
The truth is from my perspective (Highly Relative I know..haha)
Is that we control ourselves, we are in ourselves free beings capable of living independently, but equally we thrive when living interdependently.
We are, as individuals. Capable of completely free thought, brilliant imagination and spectacular creativity.
BUT, we're tied down to a network of Systems, Old Traditions and Rules, The majority of which prohibit growth and excellence and instead promote greed and selfishness in all aspects of life..
Such is the price of living in the "civilized" world being a "person" accepted by the relevant system in your country...
And to be fair, if had to describe the system using only one word, it would be difficult to decide between Power and Money...
But, People CAN and DO live without control (I try to resist as much as possible, but still wish I was freer!).
It's Just:
With the massive influx of information we are constantly bombarded with every day, most people are Heavily Influenced from an early age.
This allows for commonalities and Certain Mindsets to form which shape behavior not just in individuals but in groups, and once instilled these "ways of thinking" will cross generations..
We start to receive "messages" about our environment from an very early age and this persists throughout life; face to face, word of mouth, Mum, Dad, Family, Friends, hearsay, news, legend, advertisements, politicians, legislators etc etc.
Whatever the Route Of Administration of all this data, we consume, assess (some more so than others) and then combine or discard.
and then for the most we just try and fit in.
We try to be like our fellow man, albeit with the influences which have stuck, always in the background shaping our behavior and choices.
Why?
Because of a weird (yet understandable) notion of conformity, we want to belong. and even though the people around us judge us, even though we are lied to and abused by our supposed guardians and regularly extorted for a small slice of what is rightfully ours (The planet BTW. :)) on the whole we still maintain.
Carrying on with society and thus this thinly veiled illusion of "freedom" is maintained.
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B/F
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To answer the question....I DO...muahahahahaha
I just needed to get a post in to come back and read this thread when Im not fried!
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Religion controls the masses.
That and the super rich corporations and media companies which are in the hands of a few very rich families.
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I agree that religion has a pretty big hand in it, although i dont think its the be all and end all of the illuminati.
The illuminati basically means, the enlightened ones. Its all to do with collection of knowledge and what not.
Which kind of makes the masons et all look a bit daft, considering that believing in a higher power is a per-requeset in joining.
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Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws.
-Amschel Rothchild
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One word: Fear.
I believe that fear is what controls the masses. Fear that something they do may harm them-fear they may get in trouble-fear they may suffer consequences that are unrealistic. For example, one of my best friend's who really only drinks and very rarely smokes has been very depressed lately-she's been through a lot and as her friend I am trying to be there for her, so I told her about MDMA and how it may benefit her in ways she can't even wrap her head around. After a long (and kinda aggravating) conversation, I could not get her to change her mind. Why? Fear. MDMA is an "Illegal drug" and she has the mentality that all illegal drugs will land you homeless on the street sucking dick for crack rocks.
Strange example, but just one that I thought of on the top of my head. Her fear of becoming a drug addict is holding her back from taking a shot at responsible drug use which WOULD lead her to move on from what's been troubling her...if not move on, than at least be in peace with it.
Now, there are different types of fear. I'm putting my whole life on the line to do the business I conduct on SR and IRL-Do I live in fear everyday? YES! But, its a different kind of fear. I still do what I do very carefully, but there's always that thought in the back of my mind that the feds are going to come in and destroy my life and future, but I am willing to continue because I have full faith in the SR system and the people I fuck with-but then there are those who would never, ever embark on a venture as mine because that fear overwhelms them to the point that they are scared.
tl;dr point is, if people weren't afraid to stand up for what they truly believe in their hearts, then this world would be a much different reality for all of us, but we are bounded by laws and injustice that keep us all just moving right along in the world, living day by day.
Just my opinion, ever since I started doing the MDMA I've gotten on SR I view this world in a totally different light. It's hard to explain, but I just don't understand how people just get born into this world, go to school, get a job, get married, start a family and then die-that just seems so pointless to me...sure, I may be doing the same thing but behind the scenes its a whole nether life I live, and I couldn't be happier.
I am usually one who only reads post and absorbs the views and intellect of many of my fellow SR members but I had to comment on this post seeing as this particular philosophy has been incorporated in my view of life for a long time now. I could not agree with you more. I feel as if we, as humans, are somewhat brainwashed into believing our life cycle should replicate the "norm" but what truly is the norm? Work 40 years in hopes of a retirement that most likely will not be there for your comfort in the near future? Most people are miserable living this way but since it is a widely recognized as a "norm" in our society most are not willing to alter their thought process and change their lives in nontraditional ways for the better. It is refreshing to know that there are others whose views are similar to yours.
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I think mostly that planet Earth is just chaos..
I'm with Kappacino all the way. I've looked at various conspiracy theories (mainly for my own amusement) and their refutations over the years, and while there ARE most likely government and industry cover ups here and there throughout history (on a relatively small scale), I find the concept of "The BIG conspiracy" harder to believe than whatever the official story is.
The best quote I've ever read that explains the state of the world was something like (paraphrasing):
"Everyone is just playing a game of follow the leader; without realising there is no real leader."
=> basically saying that at every level people put trust into a "guiding" authority whom they give to much credit for in their effectiveness to actually produce meaningful consequences in the world, since the system is actually chaotic at every level (civillians, military, politicians, economics, scientific progress etc.) and constantly feeds back on itself at every level
=> so there is no real, exhaustive power hierarchy and no one is REALLY in control on an ultimate level - it's just a big complex web of intertwined interactions running its course - as the universe always has been, but with increasing complexity (or increasing Novelty if you like McKenna's theory)
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I believe what controls the masses is our inert individualistic survival mindset. This programming of our brain makes us crave food, shelter, goods, women, drugs, you name it. Think about it. Any act you commit is, in essence, completely due to the fact that you want to satisfy some desire, some craving, that you need. You go get food to fill your belly. You work out to make yourself feel better. You volunteer to give yourself that so called "peace of mind". You work so you can have money.
I implore you to think of a realistic scenario where you are acting entirely for someone else's interest. Even taking a bullet for a loved one is for your immortality in the eyes of another, which is really what we all strive for.
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I also need to come back to this thread when im not fried.
For usually when i read about stuff like this when im fried, i don't remember specific things but other than the fear i felt !
Ultimately it seems the masses control themselves, but the masses are born into or choose to live through such mass produced filters of consciousness, that are set up by za bilderbergs, zionists, rothchilds.
The point being the masses truly hold the power in their hands, either to continue being slaves in a larger system, or to be free themselves, among eachother.
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Take a look around: do you really think anyone is in charge? It's like apocolypse now " who's your commanding officer? I thought YOU were, sir!"
The bilderbergers? The zionists? The illuminati? Bullshit. The bilderbergers are a fucking think tank. The zionists don't even have full control of Israel. And the illuminati are a fairy tale. I guess that's what they want me to think though isn't it?
If 9/11 was a put up job....why did they need to take both towers? Would not one tower be sufficient excuse to do what they needed. No doubt the US government were happy to use it to move forward on their plans to gain a foothold in the middle east and caspian region. That's how they do. And I'm prepared to accept that the fourth
plane was shot down. And rightly so.
No doubt the US government has its fingers in some dirty pies. But they have a pretty poor record at keeping their shit secret.
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The bilderbergers? The zionists? The illuminati? Bullshit. The bilderbergers are a fucking think tank. The zionists don't even have full control of Israel. And the illuminati are a fairy tale. I guess that's what they want me to think though isn't it?
If 9/11 was a put up job....why did they need to take both towers? Would not one tower be sufficient excuse to do what they needed. No doubt the US government were happy to use it to move forward on their plans to gain a foothold in the middle east and caspian region. That's how they do. And I'm prepared to accept that the fourth
plane was shot down. And rightly so.
No doubt the US government has its fingers in some dirty pies. But they have a pretty poor record at keeping their shit secret.
Whether the illuminati is a myth or not, the fact that some organization that hides behind the curtain is an age old legend.
Now take into account the billions of people on this planet, and the billions of possibilities that could have been tried and tested.
Somewhere along the lines, it stands to reason that a group of people with this kind of hidden power could indeed have existed, or infact, still do.
A secret power is not an old idea. Just look at the masons, whos to say there is not something more secret and elite out there?.
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One word: Fear.
This. People fear the unknown, and in a society without a power structure, the unknown will constantly berate your life as you know it. The majority of people are only to happy (even if it's subconscious) to hand the power over to a select few in exchange for security. Strong willed and truly independent individuals are a small minority in today's world, and as such you have most people that are willing to turn the cheek to the fact that their way of life is structured off the foundations of tyranny.
In the end, there is no harmonious way for humans to live. No utopia can exist among such a destructive race, and thus the argument of which form of government will continue on for the remainder of mankind's time on this earth. All you can do is accept the reality of the situation, do what little you can to mend it, and spend your time focusing on bettering yourself the the lives of those around you...for the only thing that a wise man can't truly contemplate is what happens when this life ends. If you must look back on your time here, will you be able to face yourself knowing you spent so much time beating the dead horse that is human politics? You won't, so be able to look back at your life and know that for all the folly of it all, you improved the lives of the people around you that you cared for the most.
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Surprised not seeing here versions about chemical substances
which form states of mind and thought patterns.. It's silkroad after all!...
Suppose alcohol, nicotine, coffee, sugar and red meat control the masses..
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It's not who but what. What control the world is money and peoples interests, money = profit = power = self interest and retaining status. Who is at the top of the chain and influences this shifts all the time but fundamentally it's not the people but the chain itself that controls the world. :)
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It's not who but what. What control the world is money and peoples interests, money = profit = power = self interest and retaining status. Who is at the top of the chain and influences this shifts all the time but fundamentally it's not the people but the chain itself that controls the world.
Lims right. And i think that this has been taken advantage of since we learned how to form a discussion on matters of politics, law and philosophy.
The balance of power has been used and abused since the beginning of time.
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It's not who but what. What control the world is money and peoples interests, money = profit = power = self interest and retaining status. Who is at the top of the chain and influences this shifts all the time but fundamentally it's not the people but the chain itself that controls the world.
Lims right. And i think that this has been taken advantage of since we learned how to form a discussion on matters of politics, law and philosophy.
The balance of power has been used and abused since the beginning of time.
Exactly, human needs have always been the same - Food, water, fuel, shelter, privacy, liberty, expression etc but they come in different forms that shift and develop over the ages. It's always those who control them and influence who they go to that run the show and the most ambitious of us scramble to get as big a slice of the pie as possible.
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I remember a scene from the Avengers movie where Loki basically says we were made for subjugation.
In a way he was right. All it takes is for someone who has a great deal of wealth to have control over not just electricity, power, food sources or whatever, but people too.
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The easy answer is - those with money and their relationship with those who govern.
In the future power will shift slowly towards those who own land, those who control the distribution and sale of what remains of the world's natural resources and those who produce and sell food.
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I was going to agree with you there, but dont forget this advent of global warming, people who are in a position to freely give any kind of power will use this as an excuse to not gibe it to this in these kind of areas.
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I was going to agree with you there, but dont forget this advent of global warming, people who are in a position to freely give any kind of power will use this as an excuse to not gibe it to this in these kind of areas.
That's naive man, nobody gives power, at most they extend it for a short time.
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Lim, i am starting to think you are a mason or part of the illuminati. Once again i am forced to agree with you god dammit.
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Lim, i am starting to think you are a mason or part of the illuminati. Once again i am forced to agree with you god dammit.
Lol I don't believe in the Illuminati mate, I would probably join the Masons though if I was offered a place.
And it's not hard to understand the dynamics of power you know, you just have to watch people because once you see it then it's just a matter of scale.
For example, Compare a mugging on the street to say the Iraq invasion and twocking their oil
Apply force - overcome - take the spoils - leave the scene - cover tracks
See any difference when it comes down to the bare bones?
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"The masses" are composed of individuals, each of whom ultimately chooses for himself whether to be controlled by anything or anyone but himself, and if so, by what.
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"The masses" are composed of individuals, each of whom ultimately chooses for himself whether to be controlled by anything or anyone but himself, and if so, by what.
Do you really seriously believe that?
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Of course. Wouldn't have said it if I didn't.
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Of course. Wouldn't have said it if I didn't.
May I ask you to explain why you came to this conclusion?
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Which part? The methodological individualism, or meaningful choice? Or both?
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What makes you think you have any choice at all?
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In the future power will shift slowly towards those who own land, those who control the distribution and sale of what remains of the world's natural resources and those who produce and sell food.
I appreciate this is counterintuitive, but there are several reasons why that is unlikely to happen. Pine is trying to put WoT on a diet, but I will point out two observable facts that contradict this view.
1. It is usually the case that the poorest countries also have the most abundant resources. This is called the resource curse in economics. The idea is that there is no positive correlation at all between natural resources and overall wealth, with oil being an extreme outlier, but it is not representative at all. Look at Japan. It has no natural resources whatsoever, but it's the world's 3rd largest economy, and was the world's 2nd largest economy for decades until very recently. Conversely, with the exception of South Africa, the whole of Africa is abundantly stacked with resources of all kinds, but it's the poorest place on earth. Similarly Russia has vast mineral wealth, but exploitation of that wealth has not made it into a rich country. Hong Kong, Singapore, Ireland, Luxembourg, these places are some of the wealthiest on earth, yet they have almost no access to natural resources to speak of! Almost every natural resource is imported to such places.
Wealth and power then, don't have much to do with geography directly. You can tell me that Africa/Russia et al have been manipulated by external interests, but this is beside the point, even if we accept such an idea it still doesn't explain why those external interests were so much more powerful than the ones right on top of the resources, who had 'first dibs' as it were.
2. Power and wealth, over the last 300 years, has not drifted to those with the most productive land. That was the case certainly, a long time ago. Once the Landlords were the most powerful people there were. But... The entire paradigm of Capitalism itself has shifted power away from the Landlords to the Factory owners, to those who hold ownership of things far more abstract than physical land. In fact history shows that the Landlords nearly all went completely bankrupt as a result.
In order for your prediction to come true, you need reasons why that shift would reverse. While food is obviously an important sector of the economy, the power and wealth of that sector is negligible. Farming represents a tiny tiny part of the overall economy. It used to be close to 100% >200-300 years ago, now it is so tiny you'll be hard pressed to locate it in a pie chart of the economy. It's not that obtaining food to eat is unimportant. It's just that every other sector of the economy has grown much faster. The only way for the Landlords to get back into power is through massive monopolization. But given we live in an age of container ships and cargo planes, anybody trying to corner the market on food is going to go utterly bust (or literally busted by angry mobs). See, let's imagine that water becomes a lot more scarce and this generates the world you envisage where control over food production becomes hugely more important. What happens then is that there is enormous pressure on developing effective desalination equipment. In fact there is so much current research into desalination and the cost of doing it is dropping so fast it is really a non-issue. I know some people think differently, but countries like the UAE, Singapore and Australia have already put a ton of pressure on scientists to obtain decent ways of extracting fresh water from seawater, to the extent I think they'll eventually be able to do it for almost nothing.
In fact the only ways I see that coming true, is if there is a sudden shift, not a slow one, where the world becomes a whole lot more dystopian for some reason e.g. like the Fallout videogames! Either that or world governments seriously cock it up. That seems feasible! (nearly all famines in the 20th century were man made ones, not natural Malthusian ones e.g. where governments prevented food moving, or people from moving around).
tldr; it doesn't seem likely, but it's easy to collect bottlecaps just in case :)
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What makes you think you have any choice at all?
Either the basic laws of reality itself make me think I have choice, or I chose to think I have choice. Yeah, I can't know for sure. But since if I'm wrong everything ultimately has pretty much the same meaning as a turd splashing in a toilet bowl, I choose to believe I'm right. Or again, I'm wrong and the Universe makes me believe I choose to believe I'm right.
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If 10 people want to sell pies and only 2 of them have to pay tax, the government filters out the other 8 because they get nothing by allowing them into the market, hence you have 2 choices which no matter who you pick, you are still only choosing from the choices you've been given.
Right, because that's totally how things work. Nothing like Silk Road or any other black market exists.
But sarcasm aside, even if that's the way things worked it would still be my choice. A shitty choice, but a choice nonetheless. Or, you can completely disempower yourself and believe that you're a victim with no power to decide your future. Your choice. Unless you deny meaningful choice at all, as limetless appears to. But whether by my own choice or because it is simply what would always have happened in this place at this time and at this particular temperature, I refuse to be a victim, either of the Universe or of other people.
Or at least, I choose to believe I'm not a victim. Or maybe the Universe makes me think I choose to believe I'm not a victim. You always get into this kind of pointless recursion once you call meaningful choice into question...
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Actually for the most part yes it does. The Black Market cannot survive without the White Market and visa versa so actually they are two branches of the same tree. If this were not the case why do criminals launder money?
I am not saying that one has to disempower oneself on the contrary I am just saying I don't necessarily agree with what you seem to see as empowerment. I do believe though that not everyone can be empowered, not everyone has it in them to get to the top and win the race, there has to be loser for there to be winners. Natural selection didn't just end because we can think abstractly that natural selection is pretty harsh.
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The loser/winner dichotomy only applies in sports and politics. There is such a thing as mutual advantage. Unless your premise is that everyone should, in an ontological sense, get whatever they want. But of course that's impossible. Human beings have unlimited desires, and limited resources. You can't make yourself free of desire, and you can't get rid of scarcity - but you CAN decide what to value among what is available so that you will be content with what you have. Or you can just be angry all the time. I've done both, and found the former to be MUCH more satisfying.
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The loser/winner dichotomy only applies in sports and politics. There is such a thing as mutual advantage. Unless your premise is that everyone should, in an ontological sense, get whatever they want. But of course that's impossible. Human beings have unlimited desires, and limited resources. You can't make yourself free of desire, and you can't get rid of scarcity - but you CAN decide what to value among what is available so that you will be content with what you have. Or you can just be angry all the time. I've done both, and found the former to be MUCH more satisfying.
Oh no I am not saying we should get whatever we want, in fact quite the reverse. People naturally have their place, it's just a shit fact of life and it occurs in every community, society or whatever. Look at SR for example, you can separate the ones that push to the front (the vendors and DPR who created SR) then lower down you have the enterprising people that buy from SR to resell and then you have those that buy for percy. Ultimately the bottom two are the vendors cash-cow and then in turn the vendors are DPR's cash-cow. So even within something like SR there is always a pecking order which is just the same as life and an inherent and needed part of human society. This is why I am not particularly "Revolutionary" with my politics because no matter what system or society we live in there are always the Gods and the Clods however much they may want to convince you otherwise. I don't really feel the need to change the system because it benefits me how it is. Drugs are illegal = drug dealers taking a slice of the action. We pay taxes to the government = I get paid to help avoid those taxes. I mean why would I wana change something that feeds me? Then when I retire from all this and can go fully legit I'll have enough spends to make sure I can carve myself out a comfortable niche and put my kids ahead and give them the shit I didn't have. Easy.
Oh and I'm not angry dude, in fact quite the reverse. :)
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Also I don't agree that you have to be content with what you have, why should I be? There are just those with drive and those that are as you say "content".
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Also I don't agree that you have to be content with what you have, why should I be? There are just those with drive and those that are as you say "content".
My drive is to be content. I know roughly where that will be in terms of financial arrangements and comfortable living, but it will take great drive to reach it of course.
Yeah but will you settle for anything? Settle for what you want? Or, settle for nothing?
You can divide those with drive into one of them and people generally know what they are. I settle for nothing because as soon as I have done something I find something new I want to do. Generally this means you are never satisfied.
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Religion controls the masses.
That and the super rich corporations and media companies which are in the hands of a few very rich families.
Religeon is mind control for the masses.
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Also I don't agree that you have to be content with what you have, why should I be? There are just those with drive and those that are as you say "content".
Point taken, but I don't think "content" means apathetic. More like, happy regardless of want. Chara, not phimos.
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I think all this media things or governments measures does not control much. Prohibition has opposite effect, stimulation just absorbed.
if taken country wise, time frame like 15 years is nothing, lets take 50 years. Most important factor is COST of FOOD. in any country with costly food no population growth. In any country with heavily subsidized food or free food for poor, population is growing. COST of FOOD is single and most important indicator. that phenomenon was discovered by J Forrester father is System Dynamics in 80s.
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Yeah but my version of content and yours are very different things. Your gut reaction when interpreting the word says everything.
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Nothing controls the masses. Every peer group has its share of conspiracy, subjugation, and infighting. It's called human nature. There is no "one group" of man that controls us all.
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Nothing controls the masses. Every peer group has its share of conspiracy, subjugation, and infighting. It's called human nature. There is no "one group" of man that controls us all.
I dont believe that for a minute. To quote the movie inception somewhat, an idea is a powerful thing, its like planting a seed and watching it grow. The idea that one person or group of persons controlling everything is likened to the idea of god.
If a man can think of a thing, he can make it possible. And take into account the billions of people and possibilities that exist out there, i dont see why its so hard to accept the fact that one group of people, or infact one man controls it all. The trouble really, is that with the advent of the 20th century, freedom of speech and media, growth in technology, we are now just fully realising that we are but mere puppets.
Remember the speech in Fight Club where he says we all thought that one day wed all be millionaires and rock stars?.
I know these are just movies, but the concept stays the same. Its basically that since the 20th century the human race is just starting to wake up.
But, in my mind, thats actually a great thing to happen.
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I'd like to believe that the masses control themselves, just lack the desire and determination to fight for our beliefs. We are all made docile by the lies the media feeds us. Change will not come peacefully. Those with the power are not going to freely just give it away.
But the biggest problems lie within man himself, not the government.
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Nothing controls the masses. Every peer group has its share of conspiracy, subjugation, and infighting. It's called human nature. There is no "one group" of man that controls us all.
This guy has hit the nail on the head. +1
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It's not human nature it is social construct.
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As a man who has had some insight into the nature of existence I give you this. Life is suffering for one who has not figured it all out (become enlightened). If you break the law, who comes to arrest you and drag you away? Not Mr Bilderberg or whoever you are talking about, just sleepwalking men going through the motions. Drugs are fun as far as mundane life goes, but it is just intoxicant. Meditate- look at your own existence. What are you behind your age, date of birth, nationality, favourite band and all this. It is all illusory, and the business of some big dogs controlling your life is simply a mind game.
I come on this website for medicine for physical ailments. Once I would have fought to the death for the greatness of LSD, but once is is seen through for what it is, that is it, you cannot buy back into it. It is not a democratic debate, the more you see first hand existence, with less and less smoke and mirrors, you become a man made of gold, whether in a palace or a beggar.
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You are describing you ideal situation for living your life, and if its working for you, thats great.
For me, the general idea is that our western society is a democracy. But its not. If you read the original greek translation of the word, we are FAR from it. My point is this:-
We are infact living in a capitalist society, where us mere working class are told we should live in that house, under those conditions and pay those outrageous taxes, while the rich few have their money paid into off shore accounts so that they can legally avoid paying taxes.
Groups out there such as the masons learn knowledge that we are not priveleged to.
And why does all this go on?, because its by design.
We are a species of explorers, always searching for something, be it using drugs or looking for answers.
The fact is we were not meant to be enslaved, which is why there is that niggling feeling in the back of your mind that we are all under someone elses influence.
The question remains once more, who, or what.
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while the rich few have their money paid into off shore accounts so that they can legally avoid paying taxes.
And long may it continue so I can cash in on this in the process! 8)
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while the rich few have their money paid into off shore accounts so that they can legally avoid paying taxes.
And long may it continue so I can cash in on this in the process! 8)
If you can get away with it mate, then kudos and +1.
Partly my point was that everyone should have the opportunity, should it present itself, to do the same thing as the man next to them. True freedom is all about having the choice. Sadly that doesnt exist for everyone and thats the thing with our modern world today.
Although, the ones that really piss me off are the bankers. They wallow in greed and gluttony, make huge fuck ups with other peoples money they are supposed to be looking after AND get a fucking big pay rise out of it.
Im sure you can understand that, lim.
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I don't really have any issues with bankers. As I have said before I am not one for socialistic views on things and I just the bankers as a necessary part of the system because they create wealth as well as fuck it up.
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Listening this.
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I don't really have any issues with bankers. As I have said before I am not one for socialistic views on things and I just the bankers as a necessary part of the system because they create wealth as well as fuck it up.
I understand you lim, but I urge you to view bankers differently. They may have started out that way, being part of the system, but now its all coming to light that they make a personal choice to screw others over to make their own gains. People like this, in my own personal view, and it is just my view, are no better than urban terrorists.
Remember the rate fixing scandal a month or so ago??
Who do you think lost out in all of that, its people like you and me mate.
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I don't really have any issues with bankers. As I have said before I am not one for socialistic views on things and I just the bankers as a necessary part of the system because they create wealth as well as fuck it up.
I understand you lim, but I urge you to view bankers differently. They may have started out that way, being part of the system, but now its all coming to light that they make a personal choice to screw others over to make their own gains. People like this, in my own personal view, and it is just my view, are no better than urban terrorists.
Remember the rate fixing scandal a month or so ago??
Who do you think lost out in all of that, its people like you and me mate.
Haha, I didn't lose anything mate but I see both sides of the spectrum. I know people who work in the banking industry so I see both sides of the spectrum. I don't really dwell on it, prefer just to take advantage of the situation if I can. :)
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Haha, I didn't lose anything mate but I see both sides of the spectrum. I know people who work in the banking industry so I see both sides of the spectrum. I don't really dwell on it, prefer just to take advantage of the situation if I can. :)
Good for you bro. I am currently looking into ways to make extra money. My meager salary allows me just enough to live, but not enough to live life to the full. I tried practicing on the stock market exhange games and what not but everything was fail. I have heard people make money on ebay, literally they live that shit.
Any ideas mate lol.
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The tide is turning on the capitalist class, that is why you see a heightened level of police brutality and nation state war mongering. The capitalist class knows they have plundered more than they can repay the working class, and have made the decision to ask the world's working class to pay for their lavish lifestyle's via austerity and war. The working class will rise up, and take it all back.
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The tide is turning on the capitalist class, that is why you see a heightened level of police brutality and nation state war mongering. The capitalist class knows they have plundered more than they can repay the working class, and have made the decision to ask the world's working class to pay for their lavish lifestyle's via austerity and war. The working class will rise up, and take it all back.
Yeah alright then, calm down Marx.... ::)
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The tide is turning on the capitalist class, that is why you see a heightened level of police brutality and nation state war mongering. The capitalist class knows they have plundered more than they can repay the working class, and have made the decision to ask the world's working class to pay for their lavish lifestyle's via austerity and war. The working class will rise up, and take it all back.
You sound like a guy who talks, prophesies and protests. And as usual, do fuck all.
Those motivational speakers get me, or the one's who are giving seminars on how to get rich, despite them never having been rich, lived with anyone rich or even know useful trades to get rich. Complete load of shit and the people doing the real work are out there busting their asses rather than rewording quotes all the time.
What more do you have in mind? Do you see a resistance army around you? I don't.
Also, out of curiosity, what kind of Tor site would be worth you paying someone $45,000USD? Sounds a bit iffy....
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All we can do at the moment is come here, discuss and share our disdain for those in charge.
If some kind of army were to form they would immediately brand us as terrorists.
Thats the problem with countries like mine, the uk. Because of the fact it is illegal to buy firearms, unless your a farmer, we cannot even begin to protect ourselves, or defend our homes as we would really like.
That, is certainly what id call control of the masses.
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All we can do at the moment is come here, discuss and share our disdain for those in charge.
If some kind of army were to form they would immediately brand us as terrorists.
Thats the problem with countries like mine, the uk. Because of the fact it is illegal to buy firearms, unless your a farmer, we cannot even begin to protect ourselves, or defend our homes as we would really like.
That, is certainly what id call control of the masses.
From what I hear, that's suddenly going to stop being a problem within the next five years max. Very soon anybody with enough determination will be able to obtain a firearm due to 3D printing technology.
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All we can do at the moment is come here, discuss and share our disdain for those in charge.
If some kind of army were to form they would immediately brand us as terrorists.
Thats the problem with countries like mine, the uk. Because of the fact it is illegal to buy firearms, unless your a farmer, we cannot even begin to protect ourselves, or defend our homes as we would really like.
That, is certainly what id call control of the masses.
From what I hear, that's suddenly going to stop being a problem within the next five years max. Very soon anybody with enough determination will be able to obtain a firearm due to 3D printing technology.
It's not quite as simple as that, the plastics used in 3D printers can't withstand the pressure created from firing a gunpowder cartridge at this time so yeah, maybe one day but not for a long while I doubt.
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All we can do at the moment is come here, discuss and share our disdain for those in charge.
If some kind of army were to form they would immediately brand us as terrorists.
Thats the problem with countries like mine, the uk. Because of the fact it is illegal to buy firearms, unless your a farmer, we cannot even begin to protect ourselves, or defend our homes as we would really like.
That, is certainly what id call control of the masses.
From what I hear, that's suddenly going to stop being a problem within the next five years max. Very soon anybody with enough determination will be able to obtain a firearm due to 3D printing technology.
It's not quite as simple as that, the plastics used in 3D printers can't withstand the pressure created from firing a gunpowder cartridge at this time so yeah, maybe one day but not for a long while I doubt.
I don't know about that. I know what you mean about the traditional 3D printers, yes. But I'm seeing printers that print metal nowadays. I don't know enough about the principals of metallurgy for what makes a good gun barrel/stock with sufficient tensile strength etc to contain a controlled explosion, but I don't think we're that far away.
This particular attempt is intended to use mostly plastic. Plastic/ceramic guns are a reality or at least I have the impression that intelligence agencies have had them for decades now, it's a workable concept (but super secret, they're not publicly available lol), it's just a matter of obtaining enough geek power rather than money being the main barrier, and I don't think that's going to be a problem somehow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Distributed
Initially people didn't think the Glock would work either (it was the first firearm with a polymer frame), and they were certainly incorrect. We'll see.
Note: If you wish to defend yourself against LE agents, probably the most lethal weapon is a good lawyer on retainer. Cough up a couple of thousand dollars and shuffle it into the appropriate fellow's account.
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If 10 people want to sell pies and only 2 of them have to pay tax, the government filters out the other 8 because they get nothing by allowing them into the market, hence you have 2 choices which no matter who you pick, you are still only choosing from the choices you've been given.
Right, because that's totally how things work. Nothing like Silk Road or any other black market exists.
But sarcasm aside, even if that's the way things worked it would still be my choice. A shitty choice, but a choice nonetheless. Or, you can completely disempower yourself and believe that you're a victim with no power to decide your future. Your choice. Unless you deny meaningful choice at all, as limetless appears to. But whether by my own choice or because it is simply what would always have happened in this place at this time and at this particular temperature, I refuse to be a victim, either of the Universe or of other people.
Or at least, I choose to believe I'm not a victim. Or maybe the Universe makes me think I choose to believe I'm not a victim. You always get into this kind of pointless recursion once you call meaningful choice into question...
If you're talking about free-will vs. determinism, its obvious nobody has free will.
Everyone is a victim (or beneficiary) of how the cards fell at the beginning of the universe.
Think about it, your genetics, your ideas, the place of your birth, all of these things have a causal link that can be traced back to the big bang and how the matter settled at the beginning of the universe.
Life is one big lottery and everyone loses in the end.
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Currency.
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If you're talking about free-will vs. determinism, its obvious nobody has free will.
Everyone is a victim (or beneficiary) of how the cards fell at the beginning of the universe.
Think about it, your genetics, your ideas, the place of your birth, all of these things have a causal link that can be traced back to the big bang and how the matter settled at the beginning of the universe.
Life is one big lottery and everyone loses in the end.
That last comment is exactly the kind of way those who rule want you to think. You are in your own little bubble and are happy with whatever luck brings you.
You might as well take away all hope, freedom of speech and the right to choose, and think.
We can do exactly what we want in life, if we so choose. Its those little ideas that lurk in the back of your mind that stop you from progressing in ways you want. Be it either the accumulation of wealth, learning or getting a high position in a job.
Those choices are there for you. If you decide to sit back and let life pass you by, then thats all down to you.
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If you're talking about free-will vs. determinism, its obvious nobody has free will.
Everyone is a victim (or beneficiary) of how the cards fell at the beginning of the universe.
Think about it, your genetics, your ideas, the place of your birth, all of these things have a causal link that can be traced back to the big bang and how the matter settled at the beginning of the universe.
Life is one big lottery and everyone loses in the end.
That last comment is exactly the kind of way those who rule want you to think. You are in your own little bubble and are happy with whatever luck brings you.
You might as well take away all hope, freedom of speech and the right to choose, and think.
We can do exactly what we want in life, if we so choose. Its those little ideas that lurk in the back of your mind that stop you from progressing in ways you want. Be it either the accumulation of wealth, learning or getting a high position in a job.
Those choices are there for you. If you decide to sit back and let life pass you by, then thats all down to you.
No, what I meant by "everyone loses in the end" is that everyone has to die. Death is the great equalizer, whether rich or poor, beautiful or not, religious or not, everyone dies.
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The answer is so obvious what controls the masses:
Stupidity and greed.
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The answer is so obvious what controls the masses:
Stupidity and greed.
Those are both ideas that have been implanted into our subconsciousness over a great period of history.
Its like going into a supermarket and the shelf stackers deliberately putting the most expensive items within an eyes view.
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In my opinion, culture controls the masses.
But that leads to, what shapes, and molds culture? Which one also must be reminded, that, especially in these times, culture changes at a faster rate, and can spread across vaster regions.
This is why (I believe) a lot of the corruption now is behind media outlets, religion, government. By controlling these things, you have a hand in what people know, and can limit certain aspects of their cognitive expansions.
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This is why (I believe) a lot of the corruption now is behind media outlets, religion, government. By controlling these things, you have a hand in what people know, and can limit certain aspects of their cognitive expansions.
Thats why i despise people like Rupert Murdoch. Not only must he have been aware of all the phone hacking going on at the news of the world, after all hes the one who signs all the paychecks, but people like him are also responsible for any kind of subluminal messaging that goes out through these media outlets.
You are right about our culture. We are now a culture of shoppers. We are told to like this item, buy said item and told we are in need of said item.
And, unfortunately we blindly follow. This is partly why i said about becoming enslaved.
Its like in Fight Club. He felt sorry for guys going to the gym because Kalvin Klein says they should look like that. And who ever wrote the script was practically spot on.
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LOL i hope you got an oscar good sir!!
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At the risk of being lazy, did anyone mention Adam Curtis' "The Century of Self"?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_of_the_Self
Pretty insightful as far as how the masses came to be controlled/manipulated in America
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+They put flouride into the water.
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Thats some scary shit bro.
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That's an easy one, it's the international bankers and globalist elites.
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No one person or group. Humans are social animals that live in groups or packs and are driven by the need to fit into their group or pack, this happens on the big and micro level. Even those people who say 'i'm not a conformist' form their own little cliques with other non conformists. The random nature of group dynamics creates trends which are picked up by innate need to follow the herd. Sure there are stronger animals at the front who lead and have more influence on the group but no one individual or group can radically control or change the direction without the assistance of chance through natural/geological/world/environmental changes.
I'm sure there are groups like the Bilderburgs etc out there and they have agendas but they aren't as powerful as the tinfoil hat brigade make out.
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fear and the idea of peace
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I'm sure there are groups like the Bilderburgs etc out there and they have agendas but they aren't as powerful as the tinfoil hat brigade make out.
LOL
I am NOT that paranoid but i do feel where these ideas come from. People like the Rothschield family and the Bilderburgs or however you spell it, have more money than most of the western worlds population combined.
If they wanted to, they could end poverty in the third world countries, they could rebuild New Orleans in a day.
But they dont. They already have their castles and their mansions, so whats the rest of the money for really?.
Retirement funds, college or university degrees??.
Seems a bit unrealistic.
Its like the age old question, what do you buy for the person who already has everything??
The answer, possibly the option for living in a new age utopia where only a few are invited.
Oh, and just to add, its not a party the likes of us are invited to.
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Its fucking illuminati that controls every single shit, from music industry, food, clothes, CHURCHES, to your toilet paper.
Illuminati has existed from ages ago and they exist until now.
You may work your entire life to make money or sell drugs and kill people or go and rob the bank, and then go buy stuffs and the money goes back to owners hand(bank).
In before time there was no money, we traded things and was happy with what we had and did, but then a group of elites came togheter to take control of everything.
What they always trying to do is to make you think money is everything and forget the love we have for each other.
I dont care who you are i only care for money i need money, no one really cares for each other but so did we in before.
90% of world with access to TV and systems media is brainwashed, one of them is me and thanks to internet so people can share there knowledge with each others.
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Its fucking illuminati that controls every single shit, from music industry, food, clothes, CHURCHES, to your toilet paper.
Illuminati has existed from ages ago and they exist until now.
You may work your entire life to make money or sell drugs and kill people or go and rob the bank, and then go buy stuffs and the money goes back to owners hand(bank).
In before time there was no money, we traded things and was happy with what we had and did, but then a group of elites came togheter to take control of everything.
What they always trying to do is to make you think money is everything and forget the love we have for each other.
I dont care who you are i only care for money i need money, no one really cares for each other but so did we in before.
90% of world with access to TV and systems media is brainwashed, one of them is me and thanks to internet so people can share there knowledge with each others.
Not to take quotes from Battlestar Galactica, BUT, this has all happened before and will happen again.
I think thats the secret that the illuminati know.
Just imagine that, if history didnt mean anything, if all we learned from science about the earth didnt really exist, meaning that we only know things because we are told them to be true.
The old saying goes here, that history is written by the winners.
Imagine that people knew the truth that all life is just meaningless perception and that nothing really mattered at all.
There would be anarchy, chaos.
I remember a documentary about some line of metal being discovered toward the bottom of the Grand Canyon. No one could explain it because it was of the same metal that modern day aircraft are composed of.
Explain that one!!!
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theres a lot of talk about money in this post... but the powers that be that control the world do u really think money means anything to them? they control the whole concept of money and what it is. even if they needed money they have so much that for them it must get to the point they dont need it anymore.. i mean the powers that be are bigger then the ppl that lend countries money....
so my question is if they dont need money... then what do they need/want? power? control of ppl? psychic energy?
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This video is very helpful and i recommend yall to watch if your intresteed to know whom controls the masses :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO24XmP1c5E
theres a lot of talk about money in this post... but the powers that be that control the world do u really think money means anything to them? they control the whole concept of money and what it is. even if they needed money they have so much that for them it must get to the point they dont need it anymore.. i mean the powers that be are bigger then the ppl that lend countries money....
so my question is if they dont need money... then what do they need/want? power? control of ppl? psychic energy?
They want to bring a new world order which mean there will be one government , one police force and they will control the people and its only them that will have control of everything on everywhere.
If the new world order success then we are just banged very hard and cant do a shit against them.
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They want to bring a new world order which mean there will be one government , one police force and they will control the people and its only them that will have control of everything on everywhere.
If the new world order success then we are just banged very hard and cant do a shit against them.
I agree that the goal is for one "centralized" government, one currency, which was practiced with the euro, and one form of police/military force. It will kick off, probably within the next decade.
However there will always be a resistance, ESPECIALLY from the middle east.
Right now there is too much of a threat from "freedom fighters" or people willing to strap on a bomb and walk into a building.
That comment was NOT meant as a racist remark, but there are people willing to end their own lives to prove a point or for a belief.
The fact of the matter is, those who want a NWO have still got a lot to do and it wont be easy for them.
People like us wont let it be easy, at least.
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They want to bring a new world order which mean there will be one government , one police force and they will control the people and its only them that will have control of everything on everywhere.
If the new world order success then we are just banged very hard and cant do a shit against them.
I agree that the goal is for one "centralized" government, one currency, which was practiced with the euro, and one form of police/military force. It will kick off, probably within the next decade.
However there will always be a resistance, ESPECIALLY from the middle east.
Right now there is too much of a threat from "freedom fighters" or people willing to strap on a bomb and walk into a building.
That comment was NOT meant as a racist remark, but there are people willing to end their own lives to prove a point or for a belief.
The fact of the matter is, those who want a NWO have still got a lot to do and it wont be easy for them.
People like us wont let it be easy, at least.
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And so i agree with you but these cunts have very long term plans and have always used relegion and people on people and not everyone know the truth.
As example in Afghanistan they created the taliban and then sent the American army there and told people that America is there to help people from taliban.
Taliban is a group of people which have lived on mountin for years and dont have knowledgy at all and they are told that American army is non-muslim and they are trying to take our country and we as muslim talibs need to fight back and there is preists for total brainwashing them to go and explode themselvs.
And what really American army does is shooting on inocent people and exporting drug and allot of other things from Afghanistan.
And oh its not only that, America want Afghanistan cause Afghanistan is between his 2 enemys Russia and Iran and if Iran or Russia try to do anything they can easy take em down.
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Taliban is a group of people which have lived on mountin for years and dont have knowledgy at all and they are told that American army is non-muslim and they are trying to take our country and we as muslim talibs need to fight back and there is preists for total brainwashing them to go and explode themselvs.
And what really American army does is shooting on inocent people and exporting drug and allot of other things from Afghanistan.
And oh its not only that, America want Afghanistan cause Afghanistan is between his 2 enemys Russia and Iran and if Iran or Russia try to do anything they can easy take em down.
Thanks for the plus 1 bro.
I understand where you are coming from.
But its not just the fact that the american army shoot innocents, its the fact that, as even most civilian americans will agree too, is that the american army has been trained to kill BEFORE anything else.
There have been more recorded incidents involving friendly fire in the last two gulf wars, than ANY OTHER wars put together, of american troops killing each other.
I am waiting for the day that freedom of information produces the REAL horrors of the vietnam war.
LSD testing on troops, you name it it probably happened.
The fact is, no offense to any westerners, because i myself am a westerner, is that those who are like the taliban are for the most part fighting for their land.
It was only when the taliban decided to turn their weapons on america after russia that they were branded as terrorists.
My final point being, there will ALWAYS be war. But all it takes is for some dickhead to strap on a bomb and praise Allah to turn the entire thing into a religious war.
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This video is very helpful and i recommend yall to watch if your intresteed to know whom controls the masses :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO24XmP1c5E
theres a lot of talk about money in this post... but the powers that be that control the world do u really think money means anything to them? they control the whole concept of money and what it is. even if they needed money they have so much that for them it must get to the point they dont need it anymore.. i mean the powers that be are bigger then the ppl that lend countries money....
so my question is if they dont need money... then what do they need/want? power? control of ppl? psychic energy?
They want to bring a new world order which mean there will be one government , one police force and they will control the people and its only them that will have control of everything on everywhere.
If the new world order success then we are just banged very hard and cant do a shit against them.
yeh i see that they want a society that is no religion. but i believe religion were the original mass controller of people... i see that at the moment w them trying to centralise the banking system and how a lot of the laws passed in uk are from brussles which a diff part of eu...
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They want to bring a new world order which mean there will be one government , one police force and they will control the people and its only them that will have control of everything on everywhere.
If the new world order success then we are just banged very hard and cant do a shit against them.
I agree that the goal is for one "centralized" government, one currency, which was practiced with the euro, and one form of police/military force. It will kick off, probably within the next decade.
However there will always be a resistance, ESPECIALLY from the middle east.
Right now there is too much of a threat from "freedom fighters" or people willing to strap on a bomb and walk into a building.
That comment was NOT meant as a racist remark, but there are people willing to end their own lives to prove a point or for a belief.
The fact of the matter is, those who want a NWO have still got a lot to do and it wont be easy for them.
People like us wont let it be easy, at least.
+1
And so i agree with you but these cunts have very long term plans and have always used relegion and people on people and not everyone know the truth.
As example in Afghanistan they created the taliban and then sent the American army there and told people that America is there to help people from taliban.
Taliban is a group of people which have lived on mountin for years and dont have knowledgy at all and they are told that American army is non-muslim and they are trying to take our country and we as muslim talibs need to fight back and there is preists for total brainwashing them to go and explode themselvs.
And what really American army does is shooting on inocent people and exporting drug and allot of other things from Afghanistan.
And oh its not only that, America want Afghanistan cause Afghanistan is between his 2 enemys Russia and Iran and if Iran or Russia try to do anything they can easy take em down.
i mean the whole iraq and afghanistan thing if u think about it theyve jus gone in there to impose "democracy" and done so by bombing the fuck out of the country do u think these ppl r then gonna bend over n be like come to my country and take my poppy seeds, my oil and ill bend over take this gayginity too? they r simple folk having the war brought to them they dont need brainwashing its simple common sense... its often us that have to worry about brainwashing n misinformation...
having said that they turned iraq over good tho... its all about the old order out of chaos theory and divide and conquer techniques theyve used thru out the ages. cos whoever the powers that be are ( and no matter how knowledgeable u think u r ull never know more 3% of the truth) have done this thru generation passing control techniques and skills thru their heritage blood
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Anyone who doesn't know the US government is run by the illuminati and the lizard people has been living in a cave!
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If it was the war on drugs, police state, elitist controlled (though won't there always be some sort of elite running any society as its sort of what the word means!) state we see in a lot of the west today then in some ways it would be a shit thing. But there's a lot of good in one world government - surely it ought to be the overall aim of humanity as it would end all war? Yeah there should still be some regional control and the last thing we need is an all powerful central government with no power at local level.
However, I'd rather live in a world where there's not likely to be anymore war and all the citizens of earth's right s and freedoms are respected. And from that POV as shitty as it can be living the 'illuminati' controlled west I'd sure as fuck rather live here than North korea or Somalia or any number of other states i can think of! It ain't perfect and especially being a heroin addict my life is made pretty tough at times by the system we live under but i'm sure i'm a lot better off than i would be elsewhere in the world.
Perhaps its those same elites that flood the streets with gear and keep it illegal to keep people like me down though, after all us brits did it to the chinese and to our own people - reason why britain was one of the only european powers not to have a revolution while the french et al were storming the bastile - but at least i don't get machine gunned or lynched for it like i could do elsewhere!
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If it was the war on drugs, police state, elitist controlled (though won't there always be some sort of elite running any society as its sort of what the word means!) state we see in a lot of the west today then in some ways it would be a shit thing. But there's a lot of good in one world government - surely it ought to be the overall aim of humanity as it would end all war? Yeah there should still be some regional control and the last thing we need is an all powerful central government with no power at local level.
However, I'd rather live in a world where there's not likely to be anymore war and all the citizens of earth's right s and freedoms are respected. And from that POV as shitty as it can be living the 'illuminati' controlled west I'd sure as fuck rather live here than North korea or Somalia or any number of other states i can think of! It ain't perfect and especially being a heroin addict my life is made pretty tough at times by the system we live under but i'm sure i'm a lot better off than i would be elsewhere in the world.
Perhaps its those same elites that flood the streets with gear and keep it illegal to keep people like me down though, after all us brits did it to the chinese and to our own people - reason why britain was one of the only european powers not to have a revolution while the french et al were storming the bastile - but at least i don't get machine gunned or lynched for it like i could do elsewhere!
So i guess you prefer living as a slave and do what government says?
If so then let me make you happy by saying that when elites win, the heroin will be legal but you only have to pay what price they prefer, maybe much less then now or maybe much more then you could imagine.
They want to bring a new world order which mean there will be one government , one police force and they will control the people and its only them that will have control of everything on everywhere.
If the new world order success then we are just banged very hard and cant do a shit against them.
I agree that the goal is for one "centralized" government, one currency, which was practiced with the euro, and one form of police/military force. It will kick off, probably within the next decade.
However there will always be a resistance, ESPECIALLY from the middle east.
Right now there is too much of a threat from "freedom fighters" or people willing to strap on a bomb and walk into a building.
That comment was NOT meant as a racist remark, but there are people willing to end their own lives to prove a point or for a belief.
The fact of the matter is, those who want a NWO have still got a lot to do and it wont be easy for them.
People like us wont let it be easy, at least.
+1
And so i agree with you but these cunts have very long term plans and have always used relegion and people on people and not everyone know the truth.
As example in Afghanistan they created the taliban and then sent the American army there and told people that America is there to help people from taliban.
Taliban is a group of people which have lived on mountin for years and dont have knowledgy at all and they are told that American army is non-muslim and they are trying to take our country and we as muslim talibs need to fight back and there is preists for total brainwashing them to go and explode themselvs.
And what really American army does is shooting on inocent people and exporting drug and allot of other things from Afghanistan.
And oh its not only that, America want Afghanistan cause Afghanistan is between his 2 enemys Russia and Iran and if Iran or Russia try to do anything they can easy take em down.
i mean the whole iraq and afghanistan thing if u think about it theyve jus gone in there to impose "democracy" and done so by bombing the fuck out of the country do u think these ppl r then gonna bend over n be like come to my country and take my poppy seeds, my oil and ill bend over take this gayginity too? they r simple folk having the war brought to them they dont need brainwashing its simple common sense... its often us that have to worry about brainwashing n misinformation...
having said that they turned iraq over good tho... its all about the old order out of chaos theory and divide and conquer techniques theyve used thru out the ages. cos whoever the powers that be are ( and no matter how knowledgeable u think u r ull never know more 3% of the truth) have done this thru generation passing control techniques and skills thru their heritage blood
I agree with what you say and thats what iam trying to say, i guess Someone has miss-underestandng me here.
Im an Afghan which have lived half of my life there and seen allot of things from mujahiden to talib to American army and so on.
There is 2 kind of people,
1: simple people that live there life and war is brought to them and they do not like talib or mujahiden, they belive that americans are there to help them.
2: taliban, talibans are divided into 2 parts, leaders and simple taliban
Simple talib dont know much then what they are told (help the country and kill the american).
Leaders of taliban, they know that CIA is supporting them and the leader job is to brainwash simple talib to do what leaders tell them, such as exploding themselvs and so on and for brainwashing them they use the relegion.
The war will never end and thats becuse USA is in game and control everything.
As far as USA is there, talib will be there and fight will be there and people want USA to stay there becuse they think USA is doing good by taking away talib.
and for the game sake USA is commanding talibs to go out on public and do some explosion or roadkill some innocent people so that USA army come there and help then at the night in TV says wow once again USA helpd us from talibs and people will be more happy with having American army.
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not much related to what we are talking about but but might be useful -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmRjUzjwWvk
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Anyone who doesn't know the US government is run by the illuminati and the lizard people has been living in a cave!
Hahahahaha! ;D
I love seeing people go on about the Illuminati and the Masons etc. I can't believe people buy that shit.
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Anyone who doesn't know the US government is run by the illuminati and the lizard people has been living in a cave!
Hahahahaha! ;D
I love seeing people go on about the Illuminati and the Masons etc. I can't believe people buy that shit.
beware people lim is also a member of Illuminati!!!
browsing sr from a military underground and playing like hes a dealer.
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Anyone who doesn't know the US government is run by the illuminati and the lizard people has been living in a cave!
Hahahahaha! ;D
I love seeing people go on about the Illuminati and the Masons etc. I can't believe people buy that shit.
I wouldnt be so sure Lim. The masons are surely not the ones running the show. The masons are just a bunch of guys who hand out at lodges for meetings every now and then to "discuss". What they infact discuss is who can help whos relatives out in any situation and they may learn some kind of knowledge they feel they are especially privy too.
However the illuminati, did infact exist. The question still remains what their particular role is. No one REALLY knows. As for Dan Brown he can fuck off and die as he seems to think he knows everything but doesnt i reckon.
The Illuminati has signs all over the world of their presence, a quick youtube or google will point that out.
People nowadays are not as stupid as they hoped. People notice signs. I agree that some people see what they want to see, but there are signs out there i believe.
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We are fed information to sway our opinions of how things really work.
In the beginning our parents did, then teachers, books and television..
First hand experience is key. Reliable second hand experience as well. Especially if you are experiencing with an open mind..
We are powerful individuals. Each and everyone of us. We just don't believe we are extraordinary individuals that can do amazing things. We are controlled by fear. We have the power to create. This in itself is amazing.
We can create lies, misery, happiness, health, sickness and the list goes on forever.
Anything you believe will effect your future judgements. As well as anything you experience.
Our ego's are also powerful tools. Or destructive weapons..
Collective consciousness and "the norm" definitely play on peoples ego and fears.
In essence, each and everyone of us together control the masses, but this could also be caused by external factors.
If we all decided that the greed and harm from certain corporations was no longer tolerable and decided to ignore them and not support them well perhaps we would see them change to our wants. But this is difficult, not everyone will get on board at the same time, we all live on different levels of reality...
And there are enough motivational factors in this reality that those with wealth can control each and everyone of them, this in itself could be what is manipulating collective consciousness..
As monkey see, monkey want, monkey do...
If we were to give up all our traditions, all our wants, our needs and just decide to live off the land and play; growing useful plants and fruit trees everywhere... setting up community facilities and programs around the globe... then no one would control us... but then evil would come play.. planting poisonous foods and killing off people... so perhaps...
Evil really controls the masses...
It seems those at the UN are doing it now...
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That is the most interesting piece of thought provoking information i have ever read.
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We are fed information to sway our opinions of how things really work.
In the beginning our parents did, then teachers, books and television..
First hand experience is key. Reliable second hand experience as well. Especially if you are experiencing with an open mind..
We are powerful individuals. Each and everyone of us. We just don't believe we are extraordinary individuals that can do amazing things. We are controlled by fear. We have the power to create. This in itself is amazing.
We can create lies, misery, happiness, health, sickness and the list goes on forever.
Anything you believe will effect your future judgements. As well as anything you experience.
Our ego's are also powerful tools. Or destructive weapons..
Collective consciousness and "the norm" definitely play on peoples ego and fears.
In essence, each and everyone of us together control the masses, but this could also be caused by external factors.
If we all decided that the greed and harm from certain corporations was no longer tolerable and decided to ignore them and not support them well perhaps we would see them change to our wants. But this is difficult, not everyone will get on board at the same time, we all live on different levels of reality...
And there are enough motivational factors in this reality that those with wealth can control each and everyone of them, this in itself could be what is manipulating collective consciousness..
As monkey see, monkey want, monkey do...
If we were to give up all our traditions, all our wants, our needs and just decide to live off the land and play; growing useful plants and fruit trees everywhere... setting up community facilities and programs around the globe... then no one would control us... but then evil would come play.. planting poisonous foods and killing off people... so perhaps...
Evil really controls the masses...
It seems those at the UN are doing it now...
so true and very intelligent.
way to throw karma in there, subliminally.
it is true, all of it, as far as "conspiracies" could and should go.
and for the NWO and Masons.. i believe they're groups, but do they really control it all?
more than likely, no. they're just puppets as well.
the universe is the real puppeteer, mother nature, higher power, god almighty, etc, etc.
fear is how you control the masses, easily.
war, famine, depression, economic failure, THINKING, etc, etc.
our brains have been numbed, dumbed, and basically slowed to a complete stop.
that is why we are told not to take drugs, not to experience things for "ourselves", and to work a 9-5.
be the typical everyday robot-worker ant-drone.
SSN? or barcode? who knows, who cares. all we can do is do what we do.
who is going to put together a rebel regime and take down the government?
that's all we can do.. is over throw them and take back what is rightfully ours, but who?
who is going to lead this army? no one.
the government will always reign supreme and we will always lurk in the shadows like
ugly, inbred mutants. sanctioned to live in the sewers rotting with the forgotten mice for the rest of our lives.
sewage waste.
/thumbs
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who is going to put together a rebel regime and take down the government?
that's all we can do.. is over throw them and take back what is rightfully ours, but who?
who is going to lead this army? no one.
the government will always reign supreme and we will always lurk in the shadows like
ugly, inbred mutants. sanctioned to live in the sewers rotting with the forgotten mice for the rest of our lives.
sewage waste.
/thumbs
I think deep down, those who know what is there to be taught, would gladly lead this army you speak of. However, we also have deep down the knowledge of what happens to those that rise up and lead the pack.
If we all slowly rise up at a community level, spreading knowledge and awareness... how to be self sufficient at a community level is what we need to learn, than there will be too many of us.. self teaching yourself how to be independent from the system should be priority number 1. As well as teaching others, helping them wake up... it is a difficult experience, to let go of MANY values and false truths that you have held on to for decades..
The system IS truly bad. It is trying to make us want to kill each other.. we think there is scarcity and that we need diseases and illnesses to wipe us out or otherwise.. we all end up dying.. but this is utter nonsense. We just use our resources like fools. And outlaw the most beneficial things for humanity.
What the government and the UN are really trying to make us forget is CANNABIS.
This plant can set us free. Go research hempcrete and hemp ethanol fuel... at the same time that we grow this crop for our energy demands and building demands (petroleum and lumber will slowly be replaces - put on the back burner) we can also harvest VERY nutritious seed..
Not only this, but if we grew strains of cannabis that had higher levels of THC and other cannabinoids instead of the extremely non potent strains of hemp the government is trying to force on us (as to legally grow hemp you can only buy their seeds...) we could be using these cannabinoids to cure hundreds of illnesses.. extremely efficiently.. with very low costs.
The biggest lie we have been fed is that marijuana (cannabis) is a drug. There are SOOOOOOO many movies, shows, jokes, propaganda etc etc about this plant.. to the point that most people just dont give a fuck anymore because the truth is too hard to find... what truth? right?
Well the truth is.. cannabis and the cannabinoids found within it can cure cancer. Not just in humans but any animal with an endocannabinoid system [We have CB1 and CB2 cannabinoid receptors in our brain, whose role is to understand this compound.. as we have evolved with this plant over millions of years...we even create our own cannabinoid; anandamide]
You must EAT cannabis for it to kill your cancer cells (leaving normal cells unaffected of course.. not like chemo..).
The best way is to make it into oil (hash oil)... --- Go look up a guy, Rick Simpson, he's been making hash oil and telling people to eat it to get rid of their cancer for the last decade.. He cured his own skin cancer with the oil and has been spreading the word ever since... Phoenixtears.ca
--[We can legally only do cannabis research on animals and in culture.. but the results are still amazing.. and they carry over for humans as Rick has shown]--
Tell this to someone. That they could have saved a life of a loved one if it were not for the UN and these evil beings that have outlawed cannabis, a plant, and labelled it as a drug..
This is proof right here that the UN and our governments are not looking out for our best interests (if that wasn't already obvious...)
Anyways... this is how I see us moving forward ... realizing that this plant IS beneficial and needed for us to evolve.
It is what we have all been waiting for isn't it?
- Cancer cure.. as well as a cure and treatment for 100's of other illnesses
- An amazing energy crop that can stop our petroleum use and halt the destruction of the rain forest
- Amazing building material that can basically end our need of concrete/cement as hempcrete can replace it.
- Replacement for cotton.. which uses SOOO much fresh water and pesticides.. hemp does not require herbicides/pesticides.
- Perfect food.. you can even blend hemp seeds with water to make milk...same color and all...
- The cellulose within the cannabis stalk can be made into biodegradable plastics...
This would allow for the cost of living to drop dramatically...
I know a lot of you are not ready to unplug from the system.. it gives you a false sense of comfort I suppose? The truth is, things could be so much better. And they are for those that have found solutions.
When humanity has had enough of this bullshit we will turn to the cannabis plant for solutions...
I don't see any other feasible answers that can be done tomorrow besides embracing cannabis and allowing it to increase the standard of living for humans world wide.
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Those things are never going to happen. There is no pointing even hoping for it.
Since the dawn of time man has been of the capitalist mindset, so far as only those "in the know", those with money and power, can have access to things the average human cannot, and never will.
As long as the western world sleeps peacefully at night, knowing what kind of disease and poverty exists in the third world, we will never progress with that kind of self sustaining humanity.
I still think to myself today, how most of america can sleep at night knowing what Katrina did to New Orleans and just left it as a wreck. Even Top Gear proved that on their famous trip to america.
As for places like Las Vegas where humans can wallow in any number of self destructive activities, dont get me started.
Dont get me wrong, im not some new-age hippie or anything, but there are things that i think are just stopping us from evolving altogether, as a collective race i mean, not as an individual.
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What: earth, water and fire.
Who: The Alchemy masters that control those things and the self appointed Gods that print the money that you need to acquire these things.
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I like to think that perhaps people will wake up to reality ... but I guess its true, that it probably will never happen... some major event will have to take place to shock people into thinking.. or who knows...
But there is always hope.. and if you spread it to one or two people and they do the same, you can change collective consciousness and awareness...
I think cannabis would be the easiest way, although it has had a lot of propaganda and jokes spun around it..
The fact that Tommy Chong, a celebrity known by millions, can say publicly that he cured his cancer with the essential oils of cannabis, and no one really notices... kinda speaks for itself..
So much outside influence; entertainment, fluoride, processed food, ignorance and what have you... its a true shame that we can't collectively take a break from it all and spend a week as a species and think about how to fix it all, looking within...
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I think cannabis would be the easiest way, although it has had a lot of propaganda and jokes spun around it..
Enjoyment of drugs, whatever kind, is one thing. But to say it is the be all and end alll of existence, is making yourself a slave to those who are really in power.
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Control of mass numbers of people, an entire population. Alot of people just go along blindly, believing that everything on the news channel is true, that all the products advertised are good for someone, that the government is there to help, that le are just doing their job, on and on it goes. A brainwashed public. Who was it that said if you tell a lie long enough and often enough, the people will believe it? The guy that said that had control of at least one nation. Who or what is controlling? The elite power brokers who set up this system.
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However, I'd rather live in a world where there's not likely to be anymore war and all the citizens of earth's right s and freedoms are respected.
So i guess you prefer living as a slave and do what government says?
Right now there is too much of a threat from "freedom fighters" or people willing to strap on a bomb and walk into a building.
That comment was NOT meant as a racist remark, but there are people willing to end their own lives to prove a point or for a belief.
And what really American army does is shooting on inocent people and exporting drug and allot of other things from Afghanistan.
i mean the whole iraq and afghanistan thing if u think about it theyve jus gone in there to impose "democracy" and done so by bombing the fuck out of the country do u think these ppl r then gonna bend over n be like come to my country and take my poppy seeds, my oil and ill bend over take this gayginity too?
cos whoever the powers that be are ( and no matter how knowledgeable u think u r ull never know more 3% of the truth) have done this thru generation passing control techniques and skills thru their heritage blood
and for the game sake USA is commanding talibs to go out on public and do some explosion or roadkill some innocent people so that USA army come there and help then at the night in TV says wow once again USA helpd us from talibs and people will be more happy with having American army.
Interesting. Understand that, as a mere Citizen of America, I know absolutely nothing about any of this.
It angers me that our government does this crap in our name, however.
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The masons are surely not the ones running the show.
The Masons are a bunch of nerds.
I don't think the Illuminati still exist.
Wasn't that a cult of early scientists during the dark ages or something?
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I promise you that the USA and UN fund all the Taliban with HEROIN money shipped in here! I promise you! We also send Al Queda into Lybia and Syria then use that for an excuse to invade.lol Got to love it. A little reading and you will be enlightened that the banks finance both sides of the war. He who controls the Opium control the world! Perpetual war i the health of the state If you understand this then you realize we live under a criminal illegitimate government that wants total control and a one world empire with disarmed slaves so people like Hitler, Mao and Stalin can kill you off at will.
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Fear...that's it.
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Perpetual war i the health of the state If you understand this then you realize we live under a criminal illegitimate government that wants total control and a one world empire with disarmed slaves so people like Hitler, Mao and Stalin can kill you off at will.
You think the Hitlers of the world can't kill you off at will now?
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Perpetual war i the health of the state If you understand this then you realize we live under a criminal illegitimate government that wants total control and a one world empire with disarmed slaves so people like Hitler, Mao and Stalin can kill you off at will.
You think the Hitlers of the world can't kill you off at will now?
They can try and I will take many of them with me before they do! Let them try. Thats why they want our guns now! They are trying to make it easy for themselves. I really dont see your point?
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Perpetual war i the health of the state If you understand this then you realize we live under a criminal illegitimate government that wants total control and a one world empire with disarmed slaves so people like Hitler, Mao and Stalin can kill you off at will.
You think the Hitlers of the world can't kill you off at will now?
They can try and I will take many of them with me before they do! Let them try. Thats why they want our guns now! They are trying to make it easy for themselves. I really dont see your point?
My point is that the disarmament of the people might be fairly recent, but the Hitlers of the world already have the planet in their fists. If they really wanted to kill someone, they can.
They are only really fighting amongst themselves, now. One day, someday somewhat soon, a winner will emerge. This day we must prevent at all costs, however, I don't really see any way to prolong the wars between tyrants.
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PGP Club!
On a serious note, I would say it depends on what time frame you're referring to.
If you're talking about right now this minute. The army, the police, the government. If you're talking over a few days/weeks/months, then it is memes. If you mean over years and decades, then it is the business cycle, interest rates, particularly investment allocations, and if you mean over many decades or centuries it is economics writ large with demographics/, and if you mean over thousands of years then it is biology, and if you're talking millions, billions of years, then it must be ultimately pgp club.
zomg this
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God.
God is the hidden puppet master controlling everything that happens, both good and evil.
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THE MEDIA. television! Who controls the light that hits your eyeballs controls and programs your mind. power to the pupil. Stop watching the screens.
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Wealthy Jewish families. They own the banks and they almost all of American Media. Not being anti-Semitic, it's just the truth
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I haven't read through the entire thread, so I'm not sure if this man, or his book was mentioned, but he has some very interesting conspiracy theories. Below is a link to a PDF of his most popular book. The chapter titled "The Secret Government" is especially interesting! The audio version can be found quite easily too. Just Google it.
William Cooper
"Behold a Pale Horse"
!!Clearnet warning!!: http://media.pastorbutch.tv/docs/behold_a_pale_horse.pdf
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debt/money. money is debt and debt is money. they have full control
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Well, I havent read this entire thread, so excuse me if im putting out parrallel ideas.
Please read through this whole post before ripping my rediculous ideas apart, lol.
IMO what it really comes down to, is does free will really exist in the way most people typically think it does, and as a result whether human conciousness really indicates some kind of higher infinite self.
When I think about whether free will is a real thing, or an illusion of our complex minds, I think........does our self-awareness/human-conciousness really "seperate" us from all the other species we know of. I know this sounds like reading WAY to deeply into the matter, but if you think about it its really not. If you observe any other forms of life, such as birds, ants, bees etc etc. Most people would agree that they are carrying out the tasks that the mysterious force we call "nature" has in essence programmed them to do, or that their genetic line has progressed to do. But either way, an ant or a bee doesnt decide to take off and go on an adventure around the world to see exciting new places and meet new ants.....they all just do the same fucking thing, and either along the way they coincidentally participate in, or are being driven by nature with some form of purpose, to move the "machine" of existence along (Cross polination, birds spreading seeds etc etc etc).
Now, why I think this relates to this argument, is in relativity. If you look at ants or bees as we did above, and then compare that relatively to their level of "technology" (IMO, an anthill, beehive, birds nest etc etc etc are primitive examples of technology that exist in nature), their level of our observed concious complexity, the complexity of their "lives" etc etc etc etc We can see that its all very simple, straight forward, across the board, but thats only RELATIVE to the complexity of the human race. I personally look at language, thoughts, society, culture, way of life, patterns in human behaviour, as merely a HIGHLY progressed/evolved version of the lives of ants, bees, birds etc etc. Now if thats truely the case across the board, and our ability to "choose", have complex thoughts, create complex creations using the elements within existance, then the masses are not being controlled by anyone/thing other than nature itself on an extremely complex level. Nature/Existence, and Im not refferring to some spiritual idea, Im talking about the machine of existance we are experiencing, whatever it is, is unfolding thoughts, ideas, philosophies and in turn actions, events and technology through the minds/bodies of the humans.
In essence what im saying is that if free will doesnt exist in the way we think it does (that our thoughts are the result of some kind of "ME"), and instead were merely a highly complex/evolved version of every other type of organism, then something like the monetary system, debt, culture, the police, drug use is not the product of humanity and humans free will, it is merely a highly complex result of the force of nature exerting itself through the things it has produced in existance.
Is this what I believe? Im not sure, its possible we really are like ants and bees, only way more complex, which gives this illusion we somehow have a self/me which results in the illusion that other individuals are somehow responsible for controlling the masses. Now if you believe that there is free will, and you are seperate in some way from the machine of nature when it comes to thoughts/perceptions/ideas, then its anyones guess. Heard a million different conspiracies, jesuits, shapeshifting lizard, zionistz, NWO, the banksters etc etc etc etc. Again, all comes down to whether our species has this different element of free will to it. Beause if free will is an illusion of the complexity of the human mind, then none of those arguments are valid because none of those people were individually, seperately responsible for those thoughts and subsequent actions that lead to where we are today. They were merely another expression of nature on an awe-inspiring complex level.
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the fourth post is pretty spot on with the whole rothchild/nwo, but it's also possible they exaggerate themselves and just want you to think that so you resign and don't use your own power for the good. but don't trust media/government they don't have your own best interests at heart. they just want $ and are willing to false flag american civilians to get into war to get $, look up the northwood documents
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Well, I havent read this entire thread, so excuse me if im putting out parrallel ideas.
Please read through this whole post before ripping my rediculous ideas apart, lol.
IMO what it really comes down to, is does free will really exist in the way most people typically think it does, and as a result whether human conciousness really indicates some kind of higher infinite self.
When I think about whether free will is a real thing, or an illusion of our complex minds, I think........does our self-awareness/human-conciousness really "seperate" us from all the other species we know of. I know this sounds like reading WAY to deeply into the matter, but if you think about it its really not. If you observe any other forms of life, such as birds, ants, bees etc etc. Most people would agree that they are carrying out the tasks that the mysterious force we call "nature" has in essence programmed them to do, or that their genetic line has progressed to do. But either way, an ant or a bee doesnt decide to take off and go on an adventure around the world to see exciting new places and meet new ants.....they all just do the same fucking thing, and either along the way they coincidentally participate in, or are being driven by nature with some form of purpose, to move the "machine" of existence along (Cross polination, birds spreading seeds etc etc etc).
Now, why I think this relates to this argument, is in relativity. If you look at ants or bees as we did above, and then compare that relatively to their level of "technology" (IMO, an anthill, beehive, birds nest etc etc etc are primitive examples of technology that exist in nature), their level of our observed concious complexity, the complexity of their "lives" etc etc etc etc We can see that its all very simple, straight forward, across the board, but thats only RELATIVE to the complexity of the human race. I personally look at language, thoughts, society, culture, way of life, patterns in human behaviour, as merely a HIGHLY progressed/evolved version of the lives of ants, bees, birds etc etc. Now if thats truely the case across the board, and our ability to "choose", have complex thoughts, create complex creations using the elements within existance, then the masses are not being controlled by anyone/thing other than nature itself on an extremely complex level. Nature/Existence, and Im not refferring to some spiritual idea, Im talking about the machine of existance we are experiencing, whatever it is, is unfolding thoughts, ideas, philosophies and in turn actions, events and technology through the minds/bodies of the humans.
In essence what im saying is that if free will doesnt exist in the way we think it does (that our thoughts are the result of some kind of "ME"), and instead were merely a highly complex/evolved version of every other type of organism, then something like the monetary system, debt, culture, the police, drug use is not the product of humanity and humans free will, it is merely a highly complex result of the force of nature exerting itself through the things it has produced in existance.
Is this what I believe? Im not sure, its possible we really are like ants and bees, only way more complex, which gives this illusion we somehow have a self/me which results in the illusion that other individuals are somehow responsible for controlling the masses. Now if you believe that there is free will, and you are seperate in some way from the machine of nature when it comes to thoughts/perceptions/ideas, then its anyones guess. Heard a million different conspiracies, jesuits, shapeshifting lizard, zionistz, NWO, the banksters etc etc etc etc. Again, all comes down to whether our species has this different element of free will to it. Beause if free will is an illusion of the complexity of the human mind, then none of those arguments are valid because none of those people were individually, seperately responsible for those thoughts and subsequent actions that lead to where we are today. They were merely another expression of nature on an awe-inspiring complex level.
From an existential viewpoint, your point makes sense. But really, the Jews.
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Fear...that's it.
Fear is without a doubt what controls the masses.
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Suppression of knowledge, resources, and technology that allow civilizations to grow. All throughout history, the governing body of whatever society has had technology far sophisticated to the knowledge of the people. Keep the people blind, you can do whatever you want to them with out any questions being asked.
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Well, I havent read this entire thread, so excuse me if im putting out parrallel ideas.
Please read through this whole post before ripping my rediculous ideas apart, lol.
IMO what it really comes down to, is does free will really exist in the way most people typically think it does, and as a result whether human conciousness really indicates some kind of higher infinite self.
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From an existential viewpoint, your point makes sense. But really, the Jews.
ROFL. Hilarious.
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illuminati... the real "NWO".
THIS IS THE YEAR!
#Anonymous
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Global economy collapses and wars break out in a couple of months ;D
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illuminati... the real "NWO".
THIS IS THE YEAR!
#Anonymous
/thumbs
(clearwebalert) itanimulli.com is illuminati spelt backwards, it links to a very 'interesting' website, food for thought ;)
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illuminati... the real "NWO".
THIS IS THE YEAR!
#Anonymous
/thumbs
(clearwebalert) itanimulli.com is illuminati spelt backwards, it links to a very 'interesting' website, food for thought ;)
Someone made that website and turned it into a redirecting mirror to the NSA website to fuck with people. Lol
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One word: Fear.
I believe that fear is what controls the masses. Fear that something they do may harm them-fear they may get in trouble-fear they may suffer consequences that are unrealistic. For example, one of my best friend's who really only drinks and very rarely smokes has been very depressed lately-she's been through a lot and as her friend I am trying to be there for her, so I told her about MDMA and how it may benefit her in ways she can't even wrap her head around. After a long (and kinda aggravating) conversation, I could not get her to change her mind. Why? Fear. MDMA is an "Illegal drug" and she has the mentality that all illegal drugs will land you homeless on the street sucking dick for crack rocks.
Strange example, but just one that I thought of on the top of my head. Her fear of becoming a drug addict is holding her back from taking a shot at responsible drug use which WOULD lead her to move on from what's been troubling her...if not move on, than at least be in peace with it.
Now, there are different types of fear. I'm putting my whole life on the line to do the business I conduct on SR and IRL-Do I live in fear everyday? YES! But, its a different kind of fear. I still do what I do very carefully, but there's always that thought in the back of my mind that the feds are going to come in and destroy my life and future, but I am willing to continue because I have full faith in the SR system and the people I fuck with-but then there are those who would never, ever embark on a venture as mine because that fear overwhelms them to the point that they are scared.
tl;dr point is, if people weren't afraid to stand up for what they truly believe in their hearts, then this world would be a much different reality for all of us, but we are bounded by laws and injustice that keep us all just moving right along in the world, living day by day.
Just my opinion, ever since I started doing the MDMA I've gotten on SR I view this world in a totally different light. It's hard to explain, but I just don't understand how people just get born into this world, go to school, get a job, get married, start a family and then die-that just seems so pointless to me...sure, I may be doing the same thing but behind the scenes its a whole nether life I live, and I couldn't be happier.
I am usually one who only reads post and absorbs the views and intellect of many of my fellow SR members but I had to comment on this post seeing as this particular philosophy has been incorporated in my view of life for a long time now. I could not agree with you more. I feel as if we, as humans, are somewhat brainwashed into believing our life cycle should replicate the "norm" but what truly is the norm? Work 40 years in hopes of a retirement that most likely will not be there for your comfort in the near future? Most people are miserable living this way but since it is a widely recognized as a "norm" in our society most are not willing to alter their thought process and change their lives in nontraditional ways for the better. It is refreshing to know that there are others whose views are similar to yours.
Gonna have to second that Goodtimes. Fear is one of the top five things that controls people, if not number one. This is not saying that the rich and individual governments don't have control, they do, but how do you get control? Through fear, that's how. All you have to do is generate fear. Once you can inject fear into the masses it spreads like a disease, a disease that inhibits life itself. Fear does all the dirty work for those that want control. How do parents get children to obey? Fear. How does your boss get you to do what he wants. Fear that you will lose your job and be unable to find income. How does religion control. Fear. Hell, demons, punishment in the afterlife, all bullshit! I use to be someone who let fear control them. Fear of social interaction, fear of failure, shit, I was damn near afraid of my own voice. You know what changed all that? Drugs! Crazy I know, but I remember when I began to shed the shackles that fear imposes. It was high school, when I first tried ex. I remember how it opened my mind to so many things, and I remember going over many of my fears, and I simply said to myself, "dude, Fuck It". I went from anxious nerdy shy kid, to the I don't give a fuck cool kid, who had the bomb weed. My life since then has been a battle to defeat fear in all its forms. It holds so many people back, the fear of being rejected, fear of failure, etc. Since that experience in school, my life has been one really worth living. Fear stops so many great things from happening, it's really a shame. I'll wrap this up simply. Fuck Fear!
The only thing to fear, is fear itself!
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There will be a never-ending collection of tomes on this subject, and it will inexorably remain unpredictable....
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aliens.
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One word: Fear.
I believe that fear is what controls the masses. Fear that something they do may harm them-fear they may get in trouble-fear they may suffer consequences that are unrealistic. For example, one of my best friend's who really only drinks and very rarely smokes has been very depressed lately-she's been through a lot and as her friend I am trying to be there for her, so I told her about MDMA and how it may benefit her in ways she can't even wrap her head around. After a long (and kinda aggravating) conversation, I could not get her to change her mind. Why? Fear. MDMA is an "Illegal drug" and she has the mentality that all illegal drugs will land you homeless on the street sucking dick for crack rocks.
Strange example, but just one that I thought of on the top of my head. Her fear of becoming a drug addict is holding her back from taking a shot at responsible drug use which WOULD lead her to move on from what's been troubling her...if not move on, than at least be in peace with it.
Now, there are different types of fear. I'm putting my whole life on the line to do the business I conduct on SR and IRL-Do I live in fear everyday? YES! But, its a different kind of fear. I still do what I do very carefully, but there's always that thought in the back of my mind that the feds are going to come in and destroy my life and future, but I am willing to continue because I have full faith in the SR system and the people I fuck with-but then there are those who would never, ever embark on a venture as mine because that fear overwhelms them to the point that they are scared.
tl;dr point is, if people weren't afraid to stand up for what they truly believe in their hearts, then this world would be a much different reality for all of us, but we are bounded by laws and injustice that keep us all just moving right along in the world, living day by day.
Just my opinion, ever since I started doing the MDMA I've gotten on SR I view this world in a totally different light. It's hard to explain, but I just don't understand how people just get born into this world, go to school, get a job, get married, start a family and then die-that just seems so pointless to me...sure, I may be doing the same thing but behind the scenes its a whole nether life I live, and I couldn't be happier.
I am usually one who only reads post and absorbs the views and intellect of many of my fellow SR members but I had to comment on this post seeing as this particular philosophy has been incorporated in my view of life for a long time now. I could not agree with you more. I feel as if we, as humans, are somewhat brainwashed into believing our life cycle should replicate the "norm" but what truly is the norm? Work 40 years in hopes of a retirement that most likely will not be there for your comfort in the near future? Most people are miserable living this way but since it is a widely recognized as a "norm" in our society most are not willing to alter their thought process and change their lives in nontraditional ways for the better. It is refreshing to know that there are others whose views are similar to yours.
Gonna have to second that Goodtimes. Fear is one of the top five things that controls people, if not number one. This is not saying that the rich and individual governments don't have control, they do, but how do you get control? Through fear, that's how. All you have to do is generate fear. Once you can inject fear into the masses it spreads like a disease, a disease that inhibits life itself. Fear does all the dirty work for those that want control. How do parents get children to obey? Fear. How does your boss get you to do what he wants. Fear that you will lose your job and be unable to find income. How does religion control. Fear. Hell, demons, punishment in the afterlife, all bullshit! I use to be someone who let fear control them. Fear of social interaction, fear of failure, shit, I was damn near afraid of my own voice. You know what changed all that? Drugs! Crazy I know, but I remember when I began to shed the shackles that fear imposes. It was high school, when I first tried ex. I remember how it opened my mind to so many things, and I remember going over many of my fears, and I simply said to myself, "dude, Fuck It". I went from anxious nerdy shy kid, to the I don't give a fuck cool kid, who had the bomb weed. My life since then has been a battle to defeat fear in all its forms. It holds so many people back, the fear of being rejected, fear of failure, etc. Since that experience in school, my life has been one really worth living. Fear stops so many great things from happening, it's really a shame. I'll wrap this up simply. Fuck Fear!
The only thing to fear, is fear itself!
Ah yes, the troubling topic of psychology. pkinezoe79 has a good argument here. If you are really looking for the answer to this question, then decades of research would not yield the answer. Historians spend their entire lives dedicated to very few events in history; learning languages; investigating real and forged documents; studying contradictory theses and impetus. This kind of topic is fun to kick around--as it has already reached 10 pages--but it has no end, like the question about religion or life. That is not to say that it should not be considered. If you peruse the thread, then you will most certainly find insight into the question--and more importantly, into ourselves--like pkizenko89 has offered regarding fear.
My two cents... psychology (neurophysiology), sociology, economics, physiochemistry of gravity, environmental pollutants, and extraterrestrial radiation, to name a few. I hope this gives better insight into how complex the answer will be in full.
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illuminati... the real "NWO".
THIS IS THE YEAR!
#Anonymous
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(clearwebalert) itanimulli.com is illuminati spelt backwards, it links to a very 'interesting' website, food for thought ;)
I was going to reply until I saw this reply:
illuminati... the real "NWO".
THIS IS THE YEAR!
#Anonymous
/thumbs
(clearwebalert) itanimulli.com is illuminati spelt backwards, it links to a very 'interesting' website, food for thought ;)
Someone made that website and turned it into a redirecting mirror to the NSA website to fuck with people. Lol
.... which is what I was going to say. As to this:
Bilderberg , Zionists, Rothschilds.
Any other group who is thought to control is indirectly controlled by one of the above groups.
Well as far as my limited research into this goes, that's what I'm going by.
Being in europe i an very aware of the name Rothschilds, they are practically burned into our historic memory.
As for the other two, i have heard of them but am not entirely sure as to what they are about.
Going to look into it though now.
.... I'd have to say, don't bother. You either know or don't know, depending on who you know. There are too many books written on all three subjects. It will take you a lifetime to research this properly. I would start by joining some 'local clubs' as they more than speculators, but be prepared to hold onto that knowledge without discussing it on the fucking forums for fuck sake lol! ??? There's a reason no one in their right mind openly debates this on a drug forum of all places.
Also, where have you been? Haven't spoken since someone chopped up your reply to TreeSpirit which nearly got me in trouble for some reason. That was AGES ago, are you coming back?
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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The Trenchcoat Mafia
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The Higgs Boson.
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Hugo Chavez!
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Money. ;)
That's why the Drug War has been ongoing since Nixon. That's why the 2013 Boston Massacre took place.
Money. >:(
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Man! Everyone has made some great points and I don't have anything to add that would be a better explanation since I agree with most of them in a one way or another. It's nice to know there are intelligent people on a forum for discussing drug purchases. Most of the world is quick to blanket us with the label of junkie or druggie which has negative connotations tied to it.
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"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." - Thomas Jefferson
How the fuck can someone be that fucking smart, with that much foresight?
That quote is the world we're moving towards.
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.... I'd have to say, don't bother. You either know or don't know, depending on who you know. There are too many books written on all three subjects. It will take you a lifetime to research this properly. I would start by joining some 'local clubs' as they more than speculators, but be prepared to hold onto that knowledge without discussing it on the fucking forums for fuck sake lol! ??? There's a reason no one in their right mind openly debates this on a drug forum of all places.
Also, where have you been? Haven't spoken since someone chopped up your reply to TreeSpirit which nearly got me in trouble for some reason. That was AGES ago, are you coming back?
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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What local clubs would one look to join ?
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"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." - Thomas Jefferson
How the fuck can someone be that fucking smart, with that much foresight?
That quote is the world we're moving towards.
A few things on Jefferson and the overall perception of the "founding fathers"/constitution. I agree, that is good foresight. I would also mention that Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner who raped at least one of his slaver, likely more than once. The "founding fathers" and all their liberty talk is a perfect example of feigned morality. The rich white males who took credit for the revolutionary war and the plutocracy that followed are all fuck faces. The constitution has never included all people and was never meant to include all people. Originally, there was an unelected group of people who decided they should form a government while the commoner died in the battlefield during the war. They excluded women, people of color, and non land owning white males (basically almost everybody) from voting privileges and from holding office, not mention the people who actually had a legitimate reason for being on this continent (Native Americans). This country has seen minor gains and losses in the area of freedom but it has never been a true democracy and it was never intended to be a true democracy. A true democracy does not allow a dictatorship to rule over toiling masses under the guise of a so called "job". For true democracy and by default an end to the dominance of the banks and ruling class in general I suggest looking into syndicalism or other forms of anarchism with collective organization of resources and production. True freedom entails no gods, no bosses, no borders, and no masters.
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"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." - Thomas Jefferson
How the fuck can someone be that fucking smart, with that much foresight?
That quote is the world we're moving towards.
A few things on Jefferson and the overall perception of the "founding fathers"/constitution. I agree, that is good foresight. I would also mention that Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner who raped at least one of his slaver, likely more than once. The "founding fathers" and all their liberty talk is a perfect example of feigned morality. The rich white males who took credit for the revolutionary war and the plutocracy that followed are all fuck faces. The constitution has never included all people and was never meant to include all people. Originally, there was an unelected group of people who decided they should form a government while the commoner died in the battlefield during the war. They excluded women, people of color, and non land owning white males (basically almost everybody) from voting privileges and from holding office, not mention the people who actually had a legitimate reason for being on this continent (Native Americans). This country has seen minor gains and losses in the area of freedom but it has never been a true democracy and it was never intended to be a true democracy. A true democracy does not allow a dictatorship to rule over toiling masses under the guise of a so called "job". For true democracy and by default an end to the dominance of the banks and ruling class in general I suggest looking into syndicalism or other forms of anarchism with collective organization of resources and production. True freedom entails no gods, no bosses, no borders, and no masters.
+1, touche
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Belief controls us all. The sooner we can all (well, most) wake up to that, the better off we will be.
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Surely money controls the masses? no one does anything except for money, isn'teverybody the same?
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+1 right back at ya tits
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I always thought it was the Illuminati
...runs and hides....
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I always thought it was the Illuminati
...runs and hides....
An easy mistake, but who can blame you. Its actually aliens. From Nibiru.
You're welcome :)
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Surely money controls the masses? no one does anything except for money, isn'teverybody the same?
Money can't control us unless we believe it's worth something.
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I always thought it was the Illuminati
...runs and hides....
I thought the Bavarian Illuminati disbanded a long time ago? They had the same idea I had, except, mine involved a bit of pooling and BBQ thrown in. IDK why there are so many people who still think that they might exist, it doesn't seem to make sense that an .org as powerful as what people claim can exist this way for any number of years completely hidden as someone somewhere would HAVE to have been involved at same stage that isn't a member, so figure that one out.
The first person of the Illuminati that admits being a member and that they do exist gets +1 from me. Offer valid until I go to bed. ::)
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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Yep, it was fear!
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I didn't read this whole thread so if it has already been said then i apologize.
Desires.
The wants and needs of every human is what makes the world go 'round.
The attitude of "I want that!" or "I do not want that!" is what keeps what people call society going.
Someone who doesn't want anything does not steal or kill or use drugs or do anything else. Everything people do
is because they want something out of it.
And what people call "necessities" are basically just obvious 'wants'. All necessities are wanted but not all 'wants' are 'necessities'.
I believe that if every want/need of every human would be fulfilled instantly upon that desire then interaction with anyone else would not be necessary, we evolved to become social creatures because it helped us personally in the long run.
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you have to learn to play the game long enough until you die...no matter what we say or do, its just words that dissolve in the air...I know i can try to make changes but i have no desire to do that...Life is rough enough why complicate it...live enjoy and enjoy the little bit of life you have...soon it will all be over. i don't care if your 20 to 80...the years go by like lighting....I dont want to look back 20 yrs and know those years added up to a pile of paper in a box nobody cares about..for those who find joy in that life of politics i give them a thumbs up ...
+K. I said something similar in the Life after Death thread or whatever it was. You added a bit more to it. :)
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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you have to learn to play the game long enough until you die...no matter what we say or do, its just words that dissolve in the air...I know i can try to make changes but i have no desire to do that...Life is rough enough why complicate it...live enjoy and enjoy the little bit of life you have...soon it will all be over. i don't care if your 20 to 80...the years go by like lighting....I dont want to look back 20 yrs and know those years added up to a pile of paper in a box nobody cares about..for those who find joy in that life of politics i give them a thumbs up ...
+K. I said something similar in the Life after Death thread or whatever it was. You added a bit more to it. :)
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
I think that philosophy works for some and not others. Depends the kind of person you are.
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Pure uncut fear!
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Who was it that said "give me control of a nations money supply and I care not who makes its laws" ? I guess the question is; are you gonna let yourself be controlled?
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I'll have to say fear as well :/
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The Higgs Boson
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the scary thing about it is they control so much and calculate so much , Infact , They calculate how many people will die per year to make sure that the money stays stable and everything is set in order , THings are sprayed , people are poisned , Diseases are spread and all of this is to keep the people on top happy, And someone up there is controlling that and making us take the hit , this is the scary part..... And none of us know what is going on .... The people who are up there pulling the strings and we are being pulled... just like in a game ,,, So what is real ?
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you have to learn to play the game long enough until you die...no matter what we say or do, its just words that dissolve in the air...I know i can try to make changes but i have no desire to do that...Life is rough enough why complicate it...live enjoy and enjoy the little bit of life you have...soon it will all be over. i don't care if your 20 to 80...the years go by like lighting....I dont want to look back 20 yrs and know those years added up to a pile of paper in a box nobody cares about..for those who find joy in that life of politics i give them a thumbs up ...
+K. I said something similar in the Life after Death thread or whatever it was. You added a bit more to it. :)
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
I think that philosophy works for some and not others. Depends the kind of person you are.
It's true though, life is short so enjoy it while you can.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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These guys do! http://www.whale.to/b/silentweapon.html
Somebody mentioned William Cooper and his book, 'Behold a Pale Horse' and this frightening document i seem to have found use for several times here, recently!
Behold ..... 'Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars' . . . http://www.whale.to/b/silentweapon.html
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the illuminati controls it .. :)
so does the tv
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I control the world :-* through fear of breaking up with me ;)
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Orgasms. Orgasms control the masses. Give it to them hard, or they won't listen.
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Some people said freemasons controlled the world, so I went and asked them and they said no, dont be stupid. :(
so i guess that clears that up.
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Orgasms. Orgasms control the masses. Give it to them hard, or they won't listen.
Specifically MY orgasms.