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Title: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: bludsrevenge on September 23, 2012, 02:37 am
I want to start making RC's, crystal meth, and stuff of that nature. In the United states what would be a good location to make said facility and where would I get workers who wouldnt talk and would work for cheap.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Limetless on September 23, 2012, 02:41 am
If you are trying to do this "on the cheap" then don't bother at all. Simple as that.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: bludsrevenge on September 23, 2012, 02:46 am
of coarse Im not trying to do this cheap or half assed. I want to run an operation that lasts and turns product quick. The only part I want cheap is illegal immigrant workers who have no one to tell about their work. Lim any advice?
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Limetless on September 23, 2012, 03:00 am
of coarse Im not trying to do this cheap or half assed. I want to run an operation that lasts and turns product quick. The only part I want cheap is illegal immigrant workers who have no one to tell about their work. Lim any advice?

Lol mate you are going around this completely back to front. If you want a facility in the states that can do commercial quantities you will probably have to at least spend £50K just to get a decent set up with the raw materials + chemists and on top of that you have the logistics of getting all that shit which could cost you the same amount again because you have to develop the contacts to do it. It's not like you can just set up a lab and get your shit to make Meth overnight, you need to work your contacts over a long period of time.

If you are really serious I'm actually looking to get rid of my 50L Double-Jacket Reactor for £10K when the price purchased is usually £18K. If you do actually go down this road just think about it properly, it's not for most people, in fact a very small %. For 99% it's just a pipe-dream.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: ralph123 on September 23, 2012, 03:16 am
i would be making a guess and say 50 miles outside of sin city
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: EnterTheMatrix on September 23, 2012, 04:40 am
lulz     ::)
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Limetless on September 23, 2012, 04:47 am
lulz     ::)

+1
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: bludsrevenge on September 23, 2012, 05:29 am
Speaking of a 50L Double-Jacket Reactor. What materials do I need. Also I only have about 300,000USD to spend on buying the facility/paying employees/buying equipment/Misc
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: bludsrevenge on September 23, 2012, 05:35 am
I am assuming running a large scale marijuana growery would be easier. Maybe I will stick with that. The only difference is a lab makes allot more money
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Limetless on September 23, 2012, 05:42 am
Speaking of a 50L Double-Jacket Reactor. What materials do I need. Also I only have about 300,000USD to spend on buying the facility/paying employees/buying equipment/Misc

Mate be real with me, do you honestly know what you are even contemplating here? $300K will cover it to be fair but really, if you are honest, I think you know you haven't really thought this through.

My advice would be to stick with your day-job and leave this sort of thing to the pros.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: bludsrevenge on September 23, 2012, 05:49 am
Speaking of a 50L Double-Jacket Reactor. What materials do I need. Also I only have about 300,000USD to spend on buying the facility/paying employees/buying equipment/Misc

Mate be real with me, do you honestly know what you are even contemplating here? $300K will cover it to be fair but really, if you are honest, I think you know you haven't really thought this through.

My advice would be to stick with your day-job and leave this sort of thing to the pros.


My current day job is running various operations. I want to move into the drug game full force. 300k isnt such a big deal to me, but I see real potential making money here on SR.   I made this thread because I want to learn the what/how of this business.  Actually thinking it through tho I realize that maybe the US is not a great place to run such a thing. What is a good country to run the facility out of?
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Caparino on September 23, 2012, 06:10 am
This kid is either in high school or college and has played various MMORPGs. Or an employee of the U.S. government
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: bludsrevenge on September 23, 2012, 06:17 am
This kid is either in high school or college and has played various MMORPGs. Or an employee of the U.S. government

Im in my late 20's and have never played a mmorpg. I have no idea what that even is. I know I am young, but I am very talented when it comes to business.  And finally I AINT NO PIG
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Limetless on September 23, 2012, 06:19 am
This kid is either in high school or college and has played various MMORPGs. Or an employee of the U.S. government

Lol I wasn't going to say it but yeah, I think you are probably correct.

OP if $300K wasn't such a big deal to you then you'd already have moved into the drug-game properly. You need to stop trying to bullshit people (in this case myself) that actually know what they are on about and either go and get some realistic goals or play To Catch A Drug Dealer elsewhere please. This thread has got a bit thin a bit quick.

Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Caparino on September 23, 2012, 06:20 am
Lol he sure gets jumpy when taunted, not a sign of over-defense or immaturity at all  ;)
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Limetless on September 23, 2012, 06:22 am
Lol he sure gets jumpy when taunted, not a sign of over-defense or immaturity at all  ;)

Yeah, re-read the posts where I mention a reactor. Didn't fill me with confidence.  ::)
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: bludsrevenge on September 23, 2012, 06:23 am
I run legitimate business's is that such a problem? I want to make more money now whats the big deal?  I am really being labeled le here?
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Caparino on September 23, 2012, 06:27 am
I run legitimate business's is that such a problem? I want to make more money now whats the big deal?  I am really being labeled le here?

If you were really as involved in the field you are, you'd have the connections and know-how to make this happen. Just seems like common sense to me
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: bludsrevenge on September 23, 2012, 06:29 am
I run legitimate business's is that such a problem? I want to make more money now whats the big deal?  I am really being labeled le here?

If you were really as involved in the field you are, you'd have the connections and know-how to make this happen. Just seems like common sense to me

Man thats the point. Im not in the drug field I want to be.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: bludsrevenge on September 23, 2012, 06:30 am
Im new to this, why does that have to get me attacked? Im sure at a point everyone on here didnt know anything. Im just trying to learn.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Caparino on September 23, 2012, 06:44 am
Befriend someone that does hard drugs and find their source. Then pay that source to get their source till you get to a level of operation you feel comfortable running/funding/collaborating with
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: bludsrevenge on September 23, 2012, 06:48 am
Befriend someone that does hard drugs and find their source. Then pay that source to get their source till you get to a level of operation you feel comfortable running/funding/collaborating with

Thank you for your help I will try this
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Caparino on September 23, 2012, 06:55 am
Befriend someone that does hard drugs and find their source. Then pay that source to get their source till you get to a level of operation you feel comfortable running/funding/collaborating with

Thank you for your help I will try this

Also find some Organic Chem students that have a couple years of schooling under their belts to do the drug-making. They need the money and are more likely to use drugs, hell I've known some that do small scale drug synthesis using the equipment from the fucking university they're attending.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Limetless on September 23, 2012, 07:54 am
Befriend someone that does hard drugs and find their source. Then pay that source to get their source till you get to a level of operation you feel comfortable running/funding/collaborating with

Thank you for your help I will try this

Also find some Organic Chem students that have a couple years of schooling under their belts to do the drug-making. They need the money and are more likely to use drugs, hell I've known some that do small scale drug synthesis using the equipment from the fucking university they're attending.

Students don't cut the shit for really high quality drug manufacture. You have to recruit professors directly out of university or workers that already work in the chemical industry specifically in Organic Chemistry. Also you don't want them to use drugs because it makes them greedy and unreliable.

Seriously OP, don't quit your day job. Like someone else who did a "Please teach me how to make MDMA". If you are doing a thread asking that, you aren't cut out for the job.

Also, what makes me suspicious of you is that you are doing things in reverse. You don't make your bank and then get into the drug trade, you get into the drug trade to make bank and then go straight. If $300K is nothing to you then you don't need to be doing this and you wont have the instinct for it now because it'll be far too late for you to convert your mindset.

Like I said, leave it to the pros.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Caparino on September 23, 2012, 08:28 am
Not to ride his dick or anything but take heed to Lim's words
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: catfishinmysocks on September 23, 2012, 10:50 am
I love these stupid threads. I think people make them to try and sound cool, on the anonymous internet. But the end result is they look stupid and make me feel more intelligent.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Errl_Kushman on September 23, 2012, 12:24 pm

Also, what makes me suspicious of you is that you are doing things in reverse. You don't make your bank and then get into the drug trade, you get into the drug trade to make bank and then go straight. If $300K is nothing to you then you don't need to be doing this and you wont have the instinct for it now because it'll be far too late for you to convert your mindset.

Bingo!
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Limetless on September 23, 2012, 12:33 pm
I love these stupid threads. I think people make them to try and sound cool, on the anonymous internet. But the end result is they look stupid and make me feel more intelligent.

I suspect you may be correct.  :)
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: PlutoPete on September 23, 2012, 12:49 pm
Just spend the 300k on product and if you can sell it without getting killed or arrested you'll have made enough to retire on :)
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: The Red Hippogriff on September 23, 2012, 04:58 pm
You can't friend. You'll get a life sentence if you start. Rule #1 is tell no one. I'm working in meth manufacturing  myself and I determined the only way to stay safe is be be entirely vertically integrated while remaining a one man operation. After you get your head on straight you'll realize this is true. Even old friends or family members will turn state's evidence when facing a 24 year no parole mandatory minimum sentence in a federal can. If you can't do it yourself then don't risk your whole life. Perhaps you could set up workstations and do things in stages like a big factory, but do them all yourself as time permits. If you've told anyone in real life your idea you should consider the whole idea of clandestine chemistry a waste and move on to something else. Regards.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: farmer1 on September 23, 2012, 05:17 pm
You can't friend. You'll get a life sentence if you start. Rule #1 is tell no one. I'm working in meth manufacturing  myself and I determined the only way to stay safe is be be entirely vertically integrated while remaining a one man operation. After you get your head on straight you'll realize this is true. Even old friends or family members will turn state's evidence when facing a 24 year no parole mandatory minimum sentence in a federal can. If you can't do it yourself then don't risk your whole life. Perhaps you could set up workstations and do things in stages like a big factory, but do them all yourself as time permits. If you've told anyone in real life your idea you should consider the whole idea of clandestine chemistry a waste and move on to something else. Regards.

+1. Very good advice, particularly for someone just starting out in the game. Do it all yourself. Eventually you may need to hire some help but I can assure you that having employees makes things many many times as dangerous.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Limetless on September 23, 2012, 05:23 pm
There is no issue employing people but you just have to maintain complete control over them at all times.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: farmer1 on September 23, 2012, 06:22 pm
I suggest killing one in front of the others as an effective technique.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: TheAbsurd on September 23, 2012, 07:22 pm
i would be making a guess and say 50 miles outside of sin city
In Area 51? We should all move in there and start making LSD.

I think illegal immigrants doing this job is a terrible idea. Most people south of the US actually know or are somewhat related to drug traffickers. You have no idea how big this is in Mexico. You're asking to get your head cut off. I'm not saying these people with connections are bad people but you have to remember that they are mainly working here to raise money for their family and eventually get everyone to move here. They might be tempted to pull something like stealing your entire lab and product. It's not like when they're working in the fields or a Mexican super market.

I don't see much of a future for people who hire a chemist unless they feel really safe working for you and comfortable with what they're making. Eventually they'll save up and start their own lab and work for themselves.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Billyboob on September 23, 2012, 07:41 pm
Why do illegal immigrants have to be Mexican??
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Pharmacopoeia on September 23, 2012, 08:04 pm
That's a damned tempting offer for your 50L reactor lim, damn too bad I just don't have the contacts, resources or logistical know-how to get er done (I have the chemical know how but that means shit).
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Limetless on September 23, 2012, 08:14 pm
That's a damned tempting offer for your 50L reactor lim, damn too bad I just don't have the contacts, resources or logistical know-how to get er done (I have the chemical know how but that means shit).

Oh the delivery and all that can be worked out. :) It's a good price though isn't it? It's only had about 8-10 big batches of Meph go through it as well and a few trial batches on top.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Pharmacopoeia on September 23, 2012, 08:19 pm
That's a damned tempting offer for your 50L reactor lim, damn too bad I just don't have the contacts, resources or logistical know-how to get er done (I have the chemical know how but that means shit).

Oh the delivery and all that can be worked out. :) It's a good price though isn't it? It's only had about 8-10 big batches of Meph go through it as well and a few trial batches on top.

Yeah, it had me contemplating for a split second there actually considering to start the design of a lab.  But nah, I won't lie, I don't have the balls for such a large a. Investment b. Risk c. Success vs. Failure
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: painbow on September 23, 2012, 08:46 pm
My friend Walter might be interested if you're looking for a cook.  He's chemistry teacher and bit hard pressed to pay his medical bills right now.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Limetless on September 23, 2012, 08:53 pm
That's a damned tempting offer for your 50L reactor lim, damn too bad I just don't have the contacts, resources or logistical know-how to get er done (I have the chemical know how but that means shit).

Oh the delivery and all that can be worked out. :) It's a good price though isn't it? It's only had about 8-10 big batches of Meph go through it as well and a few trial batches on top.

Yeah, it had me contemplating for a split second there actually considering to start the design of a lab.  But nah, I won't lie, I don't have the balls for such a large a. Investment b. Risk c. Success vs. Failure

Lol yeah people that inquire about it always say that. :P
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Christy Nugs on September 23, 2012, 09:14 pm
Boy am i glad:
1.) i only have one emplyee - me!
2.) i dont tell anyone i know irl anything!
3.) growing weed here is legal!  :P
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: ZenAndTheArt on September 23, 2012, 09:25 pm

Also, what makes me suspicious of you is that you are doing things in reverse. You don't make your bank and then get into the drug trade, you get into the drug trade to make bank and then go straight. If $300K is nothing to you then you don't need to be doing this and you wont have the instinct for it now because it'll be far too late for you to convert your mindset.

Bingo!

You hit the nail on the head there.

Just from what I've seen of the 'Big Time' people in my own home town (dealers not manufactures). They make their money, then they bought a club or two, which they'll then use to launder some of their 'ill gotten gains' through (I suspect) and then they'll move on to running a clean business. That's the end game plan for most, or they will (bit by bit) send their money back to their home country and return to live like a king (usually somewhere like Pakistan or Jamaica where a £ can buy you ten times what it would fetch back in the UK).
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: robertbennet420 on September 24, 2012, 01:32 pm
This has to be the funniest thread I have ever read. You clearly do not use drugs or even know anyone that simply is involved in the drug world AT ALL, not even USERS. Have a shit load of money and all of a sudden want to "break bad" and start cooking meth? It is actually laughable that you are asking how to do this, because anyone on the internet that needs advice on this is NOT capable of doing it. Lets say you even do get a lab set up with a professional chemist cooking you batches of meth. Do you have any idea it is to even sell a single pound of meth? a .2 of a gram will last even a heavy user all night.....most bummy ass users buy a 100 or 200 milligrams for a NIGHT so even moving an OUNCE would be a fucking bitch. But oh your just gonna find some trusty workers start a lab and then meet people to take pounds of your product that will actually work with you and not just be some organized crime group that kills you and takes your whole lab or even worse than dying would be getting popped in which you would be sent to jail for a MIN of 20 years most likely. Stick with your day job. As lim said, do you think I love knowing I could get arrested at any point because I am a drug dealer? I am going to make it in this game and as soon as my stack is high enough I am OUT and completely legit.....I do love what I do but the stress of it would kill an older man......
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: TheSocialEngineer on September 24, 2012, 01:52 pm
as soon as my stack is high enough I am OUT

and how high is "high enough"?

It always gets higher as you progress, it always does.
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: Limetless on September 24, 2012, 06:57 pm
Yeah basically what RobertBennet said only maybe with a bit of sugar coating on top.

I've gotta say as well, that to think that producing is just a pick-up-and-go affair is just a ridiculous underestimation of the task. I've been doing this for the best part of 10 years to get to production so it's a little insulting lol.

And for me high enough is £10 Mil.
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Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: ralph123 on September 24, 2012, 10:22 pm
how much could i get for an ebook complete with step by step details and pictures of the actual ingredients used to make the cleanest shake and bake meth? or would you be interested in a rather large group of smurphs?

edit: actually no I cant be a part of any of that
Title: Re: How do i run a proper Drug facility in the USA
Post by: jonesycat on September 25, 2012, 12:00 am
Hey Guize I was thinking about starting an coca field & processing cocaine.

Anyone know where I can buy Colombians?