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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: tedrux on June 26, 2013, 07:50 pm

Title: Johnny get your gun
Post by: tedrux on June 26, 2013, 07:50 pm
Does Johnny have a right to die when he asked to be killed? its not for his sake that they dont kill him but because of their own shame and guilt
Title: Re: Johnny get your gun
Post by: RS7FI8ZRkm on June 26, 2013, 07:54 pm
don't take your guns to town son,.. leave you gun at home bill.. don't take your gun to town, leave your gun at home..

::) love, johnny cash!
Title: Re: Johnny get your gun
Post by: tedrux on June 26, 2013, 07:59 pm
not at all. its a reference to a movie but probably more well known as the basis for the matallica song 'one'.  it seems to me that the argument for if men are good or bad comes down to 'men are bad' and "we all deserve to die". if empathy were real how maddening every breath I drew would be knowing every ones every pain because  in the end life is a curse. call me ingrateful since I'm not a hunk of meat on the table but I am in a metaphorical sense. I feel incapable of choosing who I am; utterly disabled to be me.
Title: Re: Johnny get your gun
Post by: RS7FI8ZRkm on June 26, 2013, 08:15 pm
why do we all deserve to die? when we are clearly living :o?

also, life is what you chose to make of it. you don't know this, but not a day goes by in that I don't have suicidal thoughts. but honestly who doesn't get them :P?

its just a matter of how you feel in the present. I'd make a bet if you changed your life dramatically, you'd see beauty in life.

make a change,? start eating healthy, exercise regularly, by building metal, an physical health. strengthens your total mind an body.

when you feel good, your usually in good mood right? well it takes effort. not to sound like your dick head jim couch or anything, but maybe you just need a good wake up slap in the face..

you know africa an places with high poverty have the lowest suicide rates? why is that? shouldn't these people be throwing themselfs off cliffs if they aren't happy?

ones initial response could be like well, yeah wtf?

but after looking into it you realize its not cause they are unhappy. it cause everyday is a fight to survive. they don't need to worry bout trying to off themselfs its natural worry everday for people in these situations..


if live everyday like its your last, an one day that most certainly will be true.
-Steve jobs.
Title: Re: Johnny get your gun
Post by: pakchoi23 on June 26, 2013, 09:13 pm
Does Johnny have a right to die when he asked to be killed? its not for his sake that they dont kill him but because of their own shame and guilt

Or the hippocratic oath.

I think you are looking at things too simplistically. All humans are capable of evil or bad. Everyone, anyone who says otherwise is a liar. Anyone who says they have never done anything wrong is a liar.

As RS said, become healthy and healthiness will reflect around you. All you can do is make the space you're in a better place for you and others.

At the end of the day we're all fucked due to Human nature.


Oh and RS: yeah suicidal thoughts most days. Has made my life more interesting for sure.
Title: Re: Johnny get your gun
Post by: SelfSovereignty on June 26, 2013, 09:30 pm
A pox upon you for reminding me of this horrible, God awful book...   :'(